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post #41 of 127
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"Other companies release new phones, but there's not as much passion and heat," one Samsung operative said. "It's only Apple. Why? We're curious."

 

Nike and their Air Jordans would like to have a word with you.

post #42 of 127
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Other companies release new phones, but there's not as much passion and heat," one Samsung operative said. "It's only Apple. Why? We're curious.

What, so you can copy that too?!


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post #43 of 127
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Samsung's own end-products are complete garbage.  From their TV's, referigerators, stoves, laundry, and of course mobile devices.

 

Okay...Is that just your opinion or are there reputable experts who have published something like this? Why are their appliances so popular then? For example their refrigerators and laundry machines get 4.5 stars on both Home Depot and Lowe's.

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post #44 of 127
Oh Samsung. It's just not that hard. To be Apple you need to be:

- Product and customer focused
- Willing to work hard and avoid shortcuts
- Honest and ethical
- Clever

In other words, you need to be the anti-Samsung.
post #45 of 127
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post #46 of 127
They can copy the hardware and the software. But soul? That's another matter.
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post #47 of 127
Samesung could sell a million to one iPhone.
Samesung could give me a free Galaxy.

But i don't steal like Samesung. I am not Google's fence, nor have i an ugly bad taste.

No, never ever will i hold one of their stolen pieces of shit.
post #48 of 127

This is the numero uno most risible article ever. Samsung just don't get it do they.

 

The simple fact that they need to ask the question tells me that they will never get it.

 

If you need to ask why Apple's hard and software is so loved then you'll never understand anyway.

 

Apple products are life affirming. I must admit it seems a little surprised that it has taken so long for Apple to be recognised by the masses.

post #49 of 127

Why doesn't Samsung just leave us alone. You don't see Apple interviewing the occasional person who wanders into a shop to purchase some crap android phone asking "hey buddy, life is short, what the cuss are you bothering with that crap for"?

post #50 of 127
This is how research is done at Samsung. Next big product? The Galaxy iClone 5S.
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post #51 of 127
Dear Samsung, the Apple mystique is really quite simple: you never see customers applauding people walking out of a McDonald's. That's why you will never see customers applauding when someone walks out of a store with a Samsung phone. It's the product, stupid. Try innovating instead of imitating.
post #52 of 127
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I don't know about that. They do make a lot of the parts that go into Apple products so it can't be all crap. They also build a lot of quality hardware like TVs, home appliances, and some industrial equipment. The crap part is their business ethics and their lack of creativity. The main reason Samsung phones are inferior to Apple's is that Android is crap compared to iOS.

 

"Samsung make quality home appliances".  Really?  That's news to me.  I'd much rather buy German if you want quality and something not designed to fail the second the warranty expires.

post #53 of 127
Curious? More like jealous. If Samsung really wanted the lines that Apple gets for product launches then why not just pay a bunch of people to show up for their own launches. Seems like it would be something they would do.
post #54 of 127
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"Samsung make quality home appliances".  Really?  That's news to me.  I'd much rather buy German if you want quality and something not designed to fail the second the warranty expires.

I have all GE in my kitchens. In most places in the US and many other parts of the Americas, German made appliances such Bosch are very rare, not to mention finding parts and consumables such as water filters. I did see a Bosch dishwasher at Home Depot but I just checked and it does not appear to be for sale any longer, but that is about it. Where did you find your information about Samsung appliances failing right after the warranty expired? The Samsung warranty is the same as Bosch, 1 year parts and labor, but in the case of Bosch only if the unit is on the ground floor. If Samsung appliances consistently failed after the first year I seriously doubt they would enjoy such a high rating at the major home centers in the US.


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post #55 of 127
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I don't know about that. They do make a lot of the parts that go into Apple products so it can't be all crap. They also build a lot of quality hardware like TVs, home appliances, and some industrial equipment. The crap part is their business ethics and their lack of creativity. The main reason Samsung phones are inferior to Apple's is that Android is crap compared to iOS.

 

"Samsung make quality home appliances".  Really?  That's news to me.  I'd much rather buy German if you want quality and something not designed to fail the second the warranty expires.

 

I'm somewhat ashamed to admit that I have a 2011 60 inch Samsung LED TV, but while the Smart Hub UI is just hilariously awful, the picture quality is excellent and it has given me no problems at all. I know several others with similar devices and no complaints - one of the reasons that I bought it. Their business ethics suck and they clearly have not the faintest idea why Apple is successful, but it does appear that at least some of their products perform well.

post #56 of 127
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I think it's simply the fact that it's not Samsung. Or Motorola. Or HTC. Or Nokia. Or HP. Or LG.

Apple is the original.

I do remember that there were lines for the first Motorola Droid, but after that there has been none.
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post #57 of 127
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I'm somewhat ashamed to admit that I have a 2011 60 inch Samsung LED TV, but while the Smart Hub UI is just hilariously awful, the picture quality is excellent and it has given me no problems at all. I know several others with similar devices and no complaints - one of the reasons that I bought it. Their business ethics suck and they clearly have not the faintest idea why Apple is successful, but it does appear that at least some of their products perform well.

You should've gotten a Panasonic plasma.
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post #58 of 127
The reason is simple, quality of the product, after sales service and the great eco system. 1smile.gif
post #59 of 127
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I'm somewhat ashamed to admit that I have a 2011 60 inch Samsung LED TV, but while the Smart Hub UI is just hilariously awful, the picture quality is excellent and it has given me no problems at all. I know several others with similar devices and no complaints - one of the reasons that I bought it. Their business ethics suck and they clearly have not the faintest idea why Apple is successful, but it does appear that at least some of their products perform well.

You should've gotten a Panasonic plasma.

 

I compared them, and the Panasonic is very nice, but there were still reported issues at that time with the longevity of the plasma panels at high elevation.  We're at 7500 ft here.

post #60 of 127
It's not just that Apple makes a good product. I believe that people also trust Apple to make the right decision regarding their their data. For example, (just one example) people don't want to be tracked. With Android, I have no idea if Google or the software companies that have software on these devices are tracking me. I just don't know. With Apple, I think I know. I trust Apple to protect me, and that's still in large part due to Steve Jobs' legacy. I see it it many ways such as Apple's refusal to install carrier software on each phone. Does any phone manufacturer besides Apple refuse this type of software? I don't know, but I doubt it. We believe that Apple has our personal needs at the forefront, not the needs of their stockholders. With Samsung I am 100% confident that their products are designed primarily for company profit and growth. With Apple the profit motive is probably down around 33%, and I like it that way. If Samsung would ever stand out and say "We promise you will not ever be tracked if you buy our phone" then I would consider switching. But tracking is only one of several things that Apple does right and everyone else does wrong. And I'm not going to help Samsung by telling them all the things they are doing wrong. Because it has to come from the heart. Steve had a heart.
post #61 of 127
Gonna be TV shopping pretty soon. The small one in the bedroom I'm replacing is a Samsung, which I've been fairly happy with, picturewise—the menu structure is unbelievably idiotic, but what are you gonna do?

No of course, I wouldn't buy anything from those crooks, but when it comes to chaebol business ethics, is the Lucky Group any better? Anybody know?

(No, "LG" does not stand for "Life's Good".)
post #62 of 127

I think it's a cultural thing--and even an American and Californian SUB-cultural thing. Not to cast aspersions on the culture of South Korea, but its culture and Samsung's sub-culture are simply different than that in which Steve Jobs grew up, in which he lived most of his life, in which he built his company, and which he deeply loved.

 

Apple and its values and its essence grew from Steve's ideas, and there apparently ISN'T or wasn't ever a Korean "Steve."

 

I've always been a proud American, and perhaps a Californian, at least at heart. It was initially a love of both its geography (beaches, deserts, mountains, etc.) and Disneyland. That grew into a significant admiration for its "counter-culture" of the '60s and '70s.

 

And then I discovered Apple in the late '70s via its computers. I've been a happy Mac user since 1985 and have owned most of the subsequent models, always happy to upgrade to more powerful versions.

 

I think the turning point for the company--when it really found its way and then poured on the steam--was around the time of the OS X keynote speech in which Steve said that the company was betting its future on it.

 

After that came the string of palpable innovations.

 

Who knows if Tim & company can uphold the tradition? I think they can.

 

To hell with all the detractors.

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post #63 of 127

Apple is the Owsley and Samsung the brown acid.

post #64 of 127
Talked with a guy about the impeding iPhone 5s launch and his response was that his Galaxy was better. My response was, "not when you consider the entire ecosystem you are in when you work with an iPhone." His response: "Yeah, true."

Apple has always been about the user experience. I'm sure the Galaxy has some cool features but the question is, which of those cool features make you more productive and which are gimmick you could live without. Very little on the iPhone are things that you really don't care about. Most are features that have an impact on usability.

Each gimmick just waters down the overall experience. This is why people typically love their iPhones so much. Much more than they will every love their Android device.
post #65 of 127
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I compared them, and the Panasonic is very nice, but there were still reported issues at that time with the longevity of the plasma panels at high elevation.  We're at 7500 ft here.

What kind of reception do you get on Mt Everest? lol.gif
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post #66 of 127
Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post
What kind of reception do you get on Mt Everest? lol.gif

 

A cold one.

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post #67 of 127

I believe its more then a product. The "line" offers time with like people. The cult of Mac has been expanded to not just the computer but to a community of people that are like minded. They make friends share tips and yes its also a bought a product that brings people together and connects them to the world. Apple has never been, just a company. They have remained small, buy creating products for people. Not products to sell. Steve may be gone, but the way he brought people and products together made me feel apart of his vision. Tim and Jony have continued this by making something that is apart of you. I have two things always on me. My wedding ring and my iPhone.

post #68 of 127
We had the samsung rep at our store today, and though it seemed odd, I didn't really question why he was there, today of all days.

Guess they needed as many spies as possible.
post #69 of 127
Sammy is a pathetic. They should worry about their offerings rather than bitching about new iPhone launch lines.
There's also something else Samsung's dumb a** forget to factor in and that is iOS is 100% Apple and only on Apple swag; while Android is a free, off the shelf mobile OS from Google that is on every effing non Apple smart phone.

Let Sammy do their own mobile OS on their hardware and then we can talk.
Until then, BOW DOWN!!!!!!!
post #70 of 127
Thats people's loyalty & passion towards originality. Samsung simply sucks. They are very keen to see to that their copied products lasts not more than a year so that people wud buy their next release. No business ethics.
post #71 of 127

Of course word came from the top! A no brainer. :lol:

 

SlimeStung is worried, scared green. No matter what it does, products, copying, junktifying, speck crazy, silly add-ons, lying, paying troops of trolls, it just cannot break into Apple's style and fan adoration. Most StinkSung users don't stay more than one edition unless they are short of change, some insane Apple Hater, rock falls on head or plain simple.

 

The kind person that I am, my well wishes are with dear SamSung: I wish SmarmySneak would fall into a bottomless well. :smokey:

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post #72 of 127
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Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post
What kind of reception do you get on Mt Everest? lol.gif

 

A cold one.

 

Recently that's apparently true.

post #73 of 127
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Quality
Useabilty
Design
Iphones are a joy to simply hold, which is why i do not use a case, i love the device!!!

 

Cheers to that.. I love the size of my iPhone; I hope that Apple doesn't give in to the media's maniacal demands for a larger screen... it's perfect the way it is!

post #74 of 127
I'm honestly a little shocked at Samsung doing this, but after a little consideration, it makes perfect sense and it's definitely something that's exactly what Samsung would do, study a problem and attempt to copy it.

The problem is that Samsung doesn't understand several things, and by the nature of it's management, will never be able to duplicate.

Samsung devices are like a hot rod built from JC Whitney parts, they work, but they're cobbled together, and really don't look that great. They could take the time to make the OS and apps look great and look like they came from the same manufacturer, but they don't, again, cobbled together.

And I'm using a Note 2 as a daily driver, as soon as Apple makes a phablet, I'm back using all Apple stuff.
post #75 of 127

Jealous ones envy.  Go Apple!

 

Eff Samsung, insecure copycat clowns.

post #76 of 127
I don't know how much mystique there is in sitting all night next to a bunch of homeless people and being treated to bum fights. I think that a preorder list would have been better even if that meant fewer lines. People still queue up to pick up their phones. They just don't stay up all night camped on a dirty side walk.
post #77 of 127
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I'm honestly a little shocked at Samsung doing this, but after a little consideration, it makes perfect sense and it's definitely something that's exactly what Samsung would do, study a problem and attempt to copy it.

The problem is that Samsung doesn't understand several things, and by the nature of it's management, will never be able to duplicate.

Samsung devices are like a hot rod built from JC Whitney parts, they work, but they're cobbled together, and really don't look that great. They could take the time to make the OS and apps look great and look like they came from the same manufacturer, but they don't, again, cobbled together.

And I'm using a Note 2 as a daily driver, as soon as Apple makes a phablet, I'm back using all Apple stuff.

Exactly.

That's what happens when one company makes the hardware and another company makes the OS.

Let's pretend Samsung has some amazing idea. They'd either have to wait for Google to implement it... or bolt it on themselves on top of the OS. And we've seen how well Samsung does software...
post #78 of 127
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I'm honestly a little shocked at Samsung doing this, but after a little consideration, it makes perfect sense and it's definitely something that's exactly what Samsung would do, study a problem and attempt to copy it.

The problem is that Samsung doesn't understand several things, and by the nature of it's management, will never be able to duplicate.

Samsung devices are like a hot rod built from JC Whitney parts, they work, but they're cobbled together, and really don't look that great. They could take the time to make the OS and apps look great and look like they came from the same manufacturer, but they don't, again, cobbled together.

And I'm using a Note 2 as a daily driver, as soon as Apple makes a phablet, I'm back using all Apple stuff.

A friend of mine has a Note II and it's a shame how difficult the OS is to use with a stylus. He gets frustrated using the OS after 5 minutes.
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"but the South Korean tech giant may not be above trying to figure out just what drives those fans to queue up hours and days in advance."

Products that don't suck.

/research

 

 

Also this:

 

 

post #80 of 127
None of these are reasons to stand in line for days in advance. Sorry. Maybe i'm just a bit more sane. i love(d) the iPhone (until iOS 7), but i'd never have stood in line. For days. It's just a bit too crazy to me. i don't understand why that's not the number one answer here.
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