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Mixpanel now has iOS 7 near 50%.

https://mixpanel.com/trends/#report/ios_7/from_date:-4,to_date:-1
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Not even close.  Android 4.3 has about 0.1% after a little over a month.

4.2.2 has about 1% after about 7 months.

I think it takes Android at least a year or two to get even to 20%.  I think Kit Kat, if it's 64 bit, people will have to buy new phones, and that's going to take at least 6 months after Google announces it before Scamscum and others release their hardware to run 4.4.

It depends on if 4.4 will still run on 32 bit phones and it will still take 6 months before they start upgrading the models they released this year that have 4.2.2 on it.  It's just a mess.  These phone mfg don't upgrade their entire product line at the same time, nor do they drop older outdated OS hardware when they stop updating the OS.  Samsung STILL sells Gingerbread 2.3 phones that will never get updated past that unless Google spits out 2.4.  It's just a joke.

So, roughly, it will take Android 48 months to get to where Apple is in 48 hours.
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Very true.  This guy has some kind of angry "Get off my lawn" mentality.  Countless of people love the new iOS7, I had to adjust, didn't like at first but now I do, but hey... this guy thinks it's trash... so obviously it's all of US that have the problem, not him.
What I don't get is if iOS is so horrible how did the 5S and 5C get such good reviews? Even the Verge, lately notorious for being in Google's pocket and hating Apple, gave the 5S an 8.8, higher than any other smartphone they reviewed this year. Honestly I have yet to come across a bad review. Yet we're supposed to believe iOS 7 sucks and is a failure. Sorry don't buy it.
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They’ll split it. Have a 32-bit and 64-bit, just like Windows.

And then Android Kit Kat Ultimate, Android Kit Kat Enterprise, Android Kit Kat Home Premium, Android Kit Kat Basic… Oh, and Android Kit Kat Ultimate N, Android Kit Kat Enterprise N, Android Kit Kat Home Premium N, and Android Kit Kat Basic N for Europe where it will be made illegal for them to bundle in Chrome. lol.gif

Give me a break, give me a break, just brake me off a piece of that Kit Kat bar and an iPhone 5S.
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It's been an easy decision for me to upgrade iOS on release day for multiple upgrades now.  Apples beta test process seems to be good enough that any bugs there are tend to be utterly trivial.

 

For this upgrade, I've not seen any problems though.  I'm really happy with it.


The only thing I don't like is the "click to return to call" message that appears at the top of the screen if you go into another screen when you're making a call.  The green then is awful!  That green seems to work OK in the icon, and in the "answer" button, but for some reason, when it's a thin bar at the top of the screen, it looks dreadful to me.

 

So, that's the problem I've found with iOS7.  A minor irritation with a color on a message that occurs periodically.  Big deal!

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So, roughly, it will take Android 48 months to get to where Apple is in 48 hours.

 

Apparently.

post #47 of 168

I wonder how good the rest of the industry is doing in terms of sales.   I can hear the sucking sound out of their sales as I type...

post #48 of 168

Well, yeah, why is this a surprise? It tells you there's a free update and asks you if you want to install it. It would be on my phone too, except i touched "NO" and ignored it.

post #49 of 168

Google can't even count to 31 in 2 days. Ha.

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I don't have that problem, but I have noticed that texts don't time stamp anymore after the first one. That sucks. Outside of that tiny thing (and I liked the lines on notes before)- love it!

Inside the message, swipe to the left and hold. The time stamp will show from the right edge next to each text received and sent.
post #51 of 168

I like 7, but it needs an update to fix the momentary freezing in Mail and some other apps.

However, I'm not crazy about the new sound scheme sounds for appointments and stuff. It has a less distinct and a somehow more generic identity in my opinion. However I really hated the cartoon sounds of earlier iOS so I guess I like these sleek synth tones better... Still composing my own tones, so why do I bother typing about this again?.. sorry

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Ha, I'm not grumpy really, but I have strong opinions.  I upgraded like most will because there is a TON of great improvements.  My kid and most of her friends in her high school don't like 7.  Many had developer versions so they have been buzzing about it, I was surprised to hear it.  I didn't give my opinion to my wife and daughter, I showed them my phone and told them how much nicer the OS had become, Siri is very cool looking etc.  They played with it and did not upgrade, so it's not just me.  I'm always an early adopter, upgraded to 7 as soon as avail, ordered my 64G Black 5S at 12:00:30.  My daughter just walked in while I'm typing this, I asked her to really explain what her friends are saying at school.  She says many are upgrading because that's all there is and they are moving forward.  But many really complain that the theme is just too bright for most things.

 

I want to like the new look but simply don't.  I've never had co-worked ping me on previous updates with comments like "give me my phone back" after updating like I've gotten today.  I'm not a fan boy, I didn't like the leather binding and felt crap from before either.  I like clean, darker themes, bolder text, modern keypads, and accessories that really work for the application.

 

I'd love to see themes like the old smartphone roms we used to burn, really wish IOS had selectable themes for those of us who don't like white could switch on the fly.  I'm loving the new features but just don't like this look.  Feedback is a good thing, you think that IOS maps, boldly white, were great at night?  When virtually all other nav programs had a night mode years before.  Dark themes are so much easier on the eyes when messaging at night.  The new control panel and other sliding functions are killer! I've missed multi-function control panels that WinMobile had years ago, it took IOS to rev 7 to have one.

 

BTW, Siri, I've been using her a lot lately and she has been almost flawless.  After the upgrade, she is cool, absolutely love the graphic, but she is "temporarily un-available, please try later" about half of the time now, odd.

 

In my 20 years at HP we engineers tended to pass over the 90% great stuff, and focus on the 10% that we could improve, never settle, unless you like mediocrity.  So no, I'm not angry, I sit on development panels and live my life loving technology, but PUSHING for better stuff like lightning connectors vs 30pin clunky stuff.  You think our dear Mr Jobs used to suck up his opinions?

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She says many are upgrading because that's all there is and they are moving forward.  But many really complain that the theme is just too bright for most things.

 

She is not alone. I think of the UI as too bright as well. It was alright on the part of Apple to 'move on' with the trend and eliminate skeuomorphic design. But come to think of it, there was nothing really wrong with it. The legacy design is what made iOS stand out of the rest. It's not like iOS 7 is a minger, but it isn't gorgeous (as Mr. Ive would have you think) either.

 

 

I will still maintain my view - iOS 7 is too bright and colourful and trying hard. The new features are most certainly welcome but the new UI will receive mixed reviews.

 

If all Apple wanted was to remove skeuomorphic design, they should have done that within iOS 6. They could have added a few inspiration from the now iOS 7, while keeping the original UI and design intact. This mix of iOS 6 and iOS 7 would have definitely been better. But again, that's my opinion. This is why my 4S is still running iOS 6. I just want to make sure that after updating to iOS 7, I wouldn't regret.

post #54 of 168
Moved to iOS 7. I really like it.

Fresh design unburdened by pre-retina screens.

More functionality. More design crispness.

Much better.

And it's just the beginning of the new direction...

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BTW, Siri, I've been using her a lot lately and she has been almost flawless.  After the upgrade, she is cool, absolutely love the graphic, but she is "temporarily un-available, please try later" about half of the time now, odd.

My bet on Siri issue is so many more people trying her out since 7.
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post #57 of 168
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She is not alone. I think of the UI as too bright as well. It was alright on the part of Apple to 'move on' with the trend and eliminate skeuomorphic design. But come to think of it, there was nothing really wrong with it. The legacy design is what made iOS stand out of the rest. It's not like iOS 7 is a minger, but it isn't gorgeous (as Mr. Ive would have you think) either.


I will still maintain my view - iOS 7 is too bright and colourful and trying hard. The new features are most certainly welcome but the new UI will receive mixed reviews.

If all Apple wanted was to remove skeuomorphic design, they should have done that within iOS 6. They could have added a few inspiration from the now iOS 7, while keeping the original UI and design intact. This mix of iOS 6 and iOS 7 would have definitely been better. But again, that's my opinion. This is why my 4S is still running iOS 6. I just want to make sure that after updating to iOS 7, I wouldn't regret.

On the 'too bright' criticism, I turned by brightness down a tad and it's just fine now and obviously longer battery life too, win win 1biggrin.gif
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post #58 of 168
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One sure sign that iOS 7 and the new iPhones are popular and selling well? The iHaters over at C|net are apoplectic, running around with their hair on fire, screaming at the top of their lungs, posting like crazy in every single Apple article published. The F.U.D. is being spread around like $100 bills at a race track. It's really crazy nuts over there. Everything is spinning like a dreidel on Hanukkah. They are truly upset like never before.

Realistically speaking, many of the Apple detractors must be paid. I refuse to accept that such a large contingent of the human race could have such serious emotional and intellectual disabilities. Then again, I am often reminded through experience that the movie 'Idiocracy' may not be far from reality.
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While the media is full of Apple's good news, the management of BlackBerry released some grim news that they hope might get lost in the clutter of Apple background noise.


TORONTO (AP) -- BlackBerry says it will lay off 4,500 employees, or 40 percent of its global workforce, as it reports a nearly $1 billion second-quarter loss in a surprise early release of earnings results.
The stock dropped 19 percent to $8.50 after reopening for trading. Shares had been halted pending the news.
BlackBerry had been scheduled to release earnings next week. But the Canadian company said late Friday afternoon it expects a loss of about $950 million to $995 million for the quarter, including a massive inventory charge due to increasing market competition.


Yes, folks, it's true, for a $10 bill you can own a share of Blackberry stock and have enough change left over to buy a large Snicker™ candy bar. Eat the candy bar and wipe the chocolate off your face with the stock certificate.

4000 people losing their jobs is nothing to mock.
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Originally Posted by stelligent View Post
4000 people losing their jobs is nothing to mock.

 

Survival of the fittest. Not to mock, sure, but not to congratulate, either.

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Survival of the fittest. Not to mock, sure, but not to congratulate, either.

But he was mocking.
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On the 'too bright' criticism, I turned by brightness down a tad and it's just fine now and obviously longer battery life too, win win 1biggrin.gif

 

True, but then you get a muddy white.  Like a Kindle reader, there are times where page white with black text is excellent, and times when white text on black is best.  Why anyone would not want choice blows my mind.

 

Now at night you will see more faces about town, intently staring into their spotlight screens, faces brightly lit....

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Out of curiosity, do we have a breakdown including iOS 5 and below? And a breakdown listing usage by phone model? I think those would be interesting to see.

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Yes, folks, it's true, for a $10 bill you can own a share of Blackberry stock and have enough change left over to buy a large Snicker™ candy bar. Eat the candy bar and wipe the chocolate off your face with the stock certificate.
 

4000 people losing their jobs is nothing to mock.

Agree - extremely poor taste.

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True, but then you get a muddy white.  Like a Kindle reader, there are times where page white with black text is excellent, and times when white text on black is best.  Why anyone would not want choice blows my mind.

 

Now at night you will see more faces about town, intently staring into their spotlight screens, faces brightly lit....

 

Ah, good safety feature. Didn't think of that. Good point. Another *hidden gem* of iOS7!

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Out of curiosity, do we have a breakdown including iOS 5 and below? And a breakdown listing usage by phone model? I think those would be interesting to see.

 

Is it interesting or is it to find another data point to show Apple's superiority?

 
I think it's time to move past this Android v. iOS war. Both platforms have pros and cons, fans and detractors. But, above all else, they are different and really cannot be compared head-to-head. Let's all enjoy what we enjoy, and mature past the need to trash another company.
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Realistically speaking, many of the Apple detractors must be paid. I refuse to accept that such a large contingent of the human race could have such serious emotional and intellectual disabilities. Then again, I am often reminded through experience that the movie 'Idiocracy' may not be far from reality.

 

Many?

 
There are some pretty irrational Android criticisms, too. Did Apple pay them?
 
I think the fact is that, on the internet, people often simply react instinctively without thinking.
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Many?
 
There are some pretty irrational Android criticisms, too. Did Apple pay them?
 
I think the fact is that, on the internet, people often simply react instinctively without thinking.

To what "irrational Android criticisms" are you referring?
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Many?

 
There are some pretty irrational Android criticisms, too. Did Apple pay them?
 
I think the fact is that, on the internet, people often simply react instinctively without thinking.

 

The reverse you describe pales in the face of the Apple haters. There is real hatred out there in techie land. Labeling Apple users as mentally ill, calling them every name in the book for daring to choose a product they (the Apple haters) don't approve of is scary to me. These people quite literally cannot stand the fact that the company exists at all, let alone sells millions of devices. Just take tour of the comments section at C|net. The bile, venom, and vitriol is truly spectacular, especially the last two days.

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The reverse you describe pales in the face of the Apple haters. There is real hatred out there in techie land. Labeling Apple users as mentally ill, calling them every name in the book for daring to choose a product they (the Apple haters) don't approve of is scary to me. These people quite literally cannot stand the fact that the company exists at all, let alone sells millions of devices. Just take tour of the comments section at C|net. The bile, venom, and vitriol is truly spectacular, especially the last two days.

I noticed that as well. Truly sickening.
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The reverse you describe pales in the face of the Apple haters. There is real hatred out there in techie land. Labeling Apple users as mentally ill, calling them every name in the book for daring to choose a product they (the Apple haters) don't approve of is scary to me. These people quite literally cannot stand the fact that the company exists at all, let alone sells millions of devices. Just take tour of the comments section at C|net. The bile, venom, and vitriol is truly spectacular, especially the last two days.

http://readwrite.com/2013/01/29/why-do-americans-hate-android-and-love-apple#awesm=~oi6tHKmyUxQ5nL
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The reverse you describe pales in the face of the Apple haters. There is real hatred out there in techie land. Labeling Apple users as mentally ill, calling them every name in the book for daring to choose a product they (the Apple haters) don't approve of is scary to me. These people quite literally cannot stand the fact that the company exists at all, let alone sells millions of devices. Just take tour of the comments section at C|net. The bile, venom, and vitriol is truly spectacular, especially the last two days.

 

There is indeed much of that. But what about how people here and elsewhere label Android users and Google engineers? Are Cook et al such vastly superior human beings compared to Page et al? Are Android users all cheap, tasteless and clueless? Is it really true that neither Samsung nor Google has developed anything innovative? Is it really true that there is no real need for a large screen smartphone?

 

I don't spend enough time going thru the posts to know if the score is even (and I hope you don't either). But there are irrational emotions on both sides of the divide. And that's really a shame and in fact stupid, because neither Apple nor Google needs us to defend them.

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Is whatever the newest version of Android is even at half that?

 

It doesn't need to be. Google Play Services will update automatically OTA on anything running 2.2 or later, and the majority of new APIs are available in the support library. Google's apps have been decoupled from the OS, so they're updated independently.

 
Kinda frustrating how we have to keep repeating this on here. The OS version number is a lot less important than it used to be.
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Ya, I don't get the Android/IOS wars.  I was a Win Mobile user and we had to burn roms to get the features we wanted.  I could do tons of things that IOS could not.  I finally jumped only when the 4S came out with most of the core functions that I needed finally in place, and never looked back.  Why?  Simply because of stability, the almost flawless Bluetooth stack, graceful handling of audio, and the abundance of outrageously cool apps.

 

Most of the rom "Chefs" logically moved over to android, logically so, they can tweak away to a whole new level.  Android is the new Microsoft Win Mobile.  This is double edged, one can customize at will, but the ecosystem is like windows, open and fractionated.  Choice is a good thing, I choose stability but do miss the flexibility, especially with this new IOS 7 look.  I've avoided jailbreaking only because I've enjoyed having more of my life back by not tinkering with the OS these days.

 

While I've dissed much of the look of IOS7's icons, I really like the photo and the new clock icons, not only is the time correct on it, but even the second hand works!  That's detail.   Now they should consider having Safari's icon Compass actually work!

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Ya, I don't get the Android/IOS wars.  I was a Win Mobile user and we had to burn roms to get the features we wanted.  I could do tons of things that IOS could not.  I finally jumped only when the 4S came out with most of the core functions that I needed finally in place, and never looked back.  Why?  Simply because of stability, the almost flawless Bluetooth stack, graceful handling of audio, and the abundance of outrageously cool apps.

 

Most of the rom "Chefs" logically moved over to android, logically so, they can tweak away to a whole new level.  Android is the new Microsoft Win Mobile.  This is double edged, one can customize at will, but the ecosystem is like windows, open and fractionated.  Choice is a good thing, I choose stability but do miss the flexibility, especially with this new IOS 7 look.  I've avoided jailbreaking only because I've enjoyed having more of my life back by not tinkering with the OS these days.

 

While I've dissed much of the look of IOS7's icons, I really like the photo and the new clock icons, not only is the time correct on it, but even the second hand works!  That's detail.   Now they should consider having Safari's icon Compass actually work!

 

Speaking of compass, the new iOS7 compass is pretty cool. Has anyone managed to get the bubble level to 0°?

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Originally Posted by derekmorr View Post

It doesn't need to be.

 

Just go find a different website to crap all over, will you? Your pathetic “wahh wahh, Android doesn’t need to do this” BS is unacceptable. We shouldn’t have to put up with it. 

 

Wallow in your inadequacies elsewhere.

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Speaking of compass, the new iOS7 compass is pretty cool. Has anyone managed to get the bubble level to 0°?

 

I did, it then turns green, nice tool.   I really like "Clinometer" app as well.

 

I just improved the IOS7 look a bit, I chose Setup>General>Accessibility>Bold Text.  Makes text easier for my eyes.

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Just go find a different website to crap all over, will you? Your pathetic “wahh wahh, Android doesn’t need to do this” BS is unacceptable. We shouldn’t have to put up with it. 

Wallow in your inadequacies elsewhere.

The poster to whom you responded is apparently conveniently ignoring the fact that core OS updates and upgrades are the most important because those updates and upgrades add significant core functionality such as inter-process communication, memory management, multi-tasking and networking.

The iPhone 5s integrated hardware and software design vastly increases the performance gap between iOS and Android to such a level that Google will be forced to abandon Android within the next few years.
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Ya, I don't get the Android/IOS wars.  I was a Win Mobile user and we had to burn roms to get the features we wanted.  I could do tons of things that IOS could not.  I finally jumped only when the 4S came out with most of the core functions that I needed finally in place, and never looked back.  Why?  Simply because of stability, the almost flawless Bluetooth stack, graceful handling of audio, and the abundance of outrageously cool apps.

Most of the rom "Chefs" logically moved over to android, logically so, they can tweak away to a whole new level.  Android is the new Microsoft Win Mobile.  This is double edged, one can customize at will, but the ecosystem is like windows, open and fractionated.  Choice is a good thing, I choose stability but do miss the flexibility, especially with this new IOS 7 look.  I've avoided jailbreaking only because I've enjoyed having more of my life back by not tinkering with the OS these days.

While I've dissed much of the look of IOS7's icons, I really like the photo and the new clock icons, not only is the time correct on it, but even the second hand works!  That's detail.   Now they should consider having Safari's icon Compass actually work!

I do not like the icons but after months of using iOS 7 I have begun to care much less.

Reliability, Security and Usability should trump Customization to any systems analyst. I can understand why a developer might want Customization as a key feature of any device; that is if they have the spare time. If they have the spare time I would likely not hire them for anything other than development on a certain platform. Anyone else using a platform with inferior Reliability, Security and Usability isn't focusing on their productivity.
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I did, it then turns green, nice tool.   I really like "Clinometer" app as well.

 

I just improved the IOS7 look a bit, I chose Setup>General>Accessibility>Bold Text.  Makes text easier for my eyes.

 

Damn, you're right! It turns green! You needed to make the text bold to read? You old man, you! ;)

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