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post #41 of 107
Here's my thoughts. The 5c overpriced? I don't think so, Apple is looking well beyond opening weekend with this phone, think holidays....... who are we to second guess AAPL's marketing? $99 bucks for an iPhone, that is reasonable. Pure marketing genus, think youth........hook em early and you have an APPL customer for life. Once you own 2 or more APPL devices you get it.

I think the problem with these analysts is that they must have bought in the upper 5's or 6's perhaps 7's with the promise of APPL at 1000, now they are talking it down. Make no mistake WS has more power than us to move this stock and this is what worries me a bit. I am LONG APPL and plan to stay there yet I worry that WS will limit our profits with bad info and negative press. I like the divy and have an 8 year horizon so I hold for sure.

APPL will never inovate again, don't bank on that. Think ibank, a serious iTV, and wearables So if you are a swing trader, shut up, take your short term profits and move on to another forum

This is why the retail investor is still relatively out of the market......

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post #42 of 107

Some reporter needs to do an investigative report on these "analysts".  How about a public review of their performance over time?  They are making investment suggestions - so we should understand just how correct they are or have been in their prognostication over time.

post #43 of 107
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My narrative?
 
I don't have a narrative. Bla bla bla...

Then you're just flapping your lips and not making sense. Take your uninformed non-narrative where we can't smell it.
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My narrative?

 
I don't have a narrative. It is clear the iPhone 5c is selling far less than the 5s. Are you doubting that fact?
 
Based on that I am speculating whether Apple mispriced the 5c, or if it was their plan all along. Based on their track record it is probably the latter.
 
I don't have a narrative, and I am not saying Apple is doing it wrong.

 

The 5c price seems a little high to me too, but I'm sure the folks at Apple who determined the 5c price point put significantly more research, thought and analysis into their decision than anyone who posts on Apple Insider, including myself. My own speculation as to why the 5s is outselling the 5c 3.5 to 1 during the first week of sales is that early adopters are more inclined to chose the high-end option with all the bells and whistles, and they tend to have more disposable income, meaning that $100 difference doesn't seem like much to them. Early adopters want the best, no matter what the cost. 

 
I'm sure the 5s and 5c are selling pretty much as Apple expected them to sell the first week. Once the early-adopter feeding frenzy is over I think we'll see more cost-conscious consumers entering the waters and within a few months the 5c sales will start gaining ground on the 5s and will eventually overtake the 5s in monthly sales.
post #46 of 107
Look it is not easy selling millions of units in weekend that people want let alone 9 MILLION of computers in your hand. But Apple makes it look easy even though it is not. This is why analysts are jaded and bash Apple that it can do better and falling behind.

I really cannot believe the bashing Apple gets even on record setting day. CNBC had on 2 analysts today - one said Apple will long term be like MSFT and has 300 price target. Really Apple has shown it is like MSFT? One of most profitable companies in world with record setting sales almost every year and historical record of innovative products? This analyst would think that Apple's sticky ecosystem is worth ZERO with ZERO sales growth.

2nd analyst says Apple sales was really flat and growth was because they expanded into China. It is like he saying Apple is not playing fair because Apple expanded its market/distribution. Let me ask you this - isn't that how every company expands - by expanding into new markets? But when Apple does it and does it really well with complexity of supply chain and logistics- the negative analysts are saying like Apple is CHEATING. COME ON!

And analyst Muster is like well we were off our prediction because Apple has TWO products now 5S and 5C. So it is not our fault our estimates were so wrong even though everyone knew what products were coming out before launch. So Apple gets dinged because they came out with more products that people buy millions of units of. And funny thing is that most analysts universally panned 5C as too expensive and would be rejected by customers but which sold millions at launch.

Who else can sell or even make 9 million units in launch weekend? I imagine 9 million units is incredibly hard to make especially for something as complex as computer inside your hand. But theses flimsy analysts are making it seem like anyone can do it in their sleep, and comes off as really jaded of record sales Apple sets.


Same analysts who predicted 5-6 million units sold and the 5C would be dud and they got that wrong even though they KNEW ahead of time China was included in launch. A beat is a beat and these are actual sales and not dubious click farms in India- it is like Apple is penalized for finding new ways to do it. It is like analyst are saying wait till next quarter - oh they did great on that - ok lets wait quarter after that - eventually Apple will fall flat and I will be right. Is that how business school is teaching to value companies?

Like how analysts predict sales by how many people in line at a store or asking 100 people which model they are getting. When over 9 MILLION were sold around world. It is absurd how some analysts think and do their analysis.


Same shady analysts who buy into AMZN who has PE 250 and lost money every year since it was born. If you give me billions of dollars - I promise you I can sell products at or below cost and never make a profit too. Analysts prefer that over Apple PE 10 and one of most profitable companies in world. Eventually analysts will be right and AMZN will make tiny profit and analyst will be like you see I told you so.

And they don't even mention NEW Apple products planned for 2014 like that will be worth zero too
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what a moron... $300 for apple in the future. even Google or MS have higher EPS than apple would have at $300. and this guy keep saying apple is failing to innovate. I bet the last thing this guy innovated landed in a toilet 

 

Haha. Agree 100%. That Trainer guy called for AAPL @240 in May of this year! You could be tempted to just call him stupidly stupid (and insult really stupid people) but I think he did it to manipulate, and short the stock . By the way he uses a bogus calculation only he uses, to achieve stock price he wants. And no the SEC never pays attention to these guys.

post #48 of 107
Where is Al Franken when you need him? Congressional hearing please.
post #49 of 107

Of course each and every one of these douche bag analysts are finding some way to play this down.  Now that they have been slapped in the face with there utter failure and incompetence.   The fact is that Apple blew there estimates, low ball reccommendations and self serving tripe out of the water, the bitter taste of there own vitriol in there mouths make them stay negative.  Saying this is just an anomaly.  Funning thing is this "Anomaly" happens every year.

What a bunch of buffoons.


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post #50 of 107
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 There is no reason for the 5c to ever be priced the same as the 5s (which happens at the $200 level).

 

The 5c is not priced the same as the 5s.  It is $100.00 Cheaper.

post #52 of 107

It would remiss of us to ignore the fact that some analysts are acknowledging that Apple got it right in the first place. 

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My narrative?

 
I don't have a narrative. It is clear the iPhone 5c is selling far less than the 5s. Are you doubting that fact?
 

Yes. Because there is no concrete evidence to support this. Before you cite reports from analysts and tech pundits, just remember whether you always take their word for granted. 

post #54 of 107
"... implies a message from management that the company is back on track."

It implies no such thing. Any analyst worth his salary has known that the company was not off-track, so how could how they be "back".

Turkeys. All of them.
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APPL will never inovate again, don't bank on that. 

They already have.  First 64 bit mobile processor (by the way that is huge and has nothing to do with the 4 gig crap people keep regurgitating), First mass marketable Capacitance fingerprint sensor that really works (not the pos atria sensor that failed in the first few months of use and was buggy at best) as well as the digitally secure enclave technology in the A7, iOS 7 first 64 bit mobile os, M7 motion co processor, Mac Pro... and the list just keeps rolling. 

post #56 of 107
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Why aren’t they being fired for being wrong? Why aren’t they docked pay for being wrong? Why aren’t they made to write public apologies for being wrong?

 

You want a secure job, be an analyst. Zero accountability, zero truth to find, zero expectations. Want another one? Be a politician in an unobservant district.

 

Want perpetual tenure? Be a political analyst.

 

On the other hand, it's their job to help their clients (I pity the fools) make money. Are these salespeople/analysts doing that or not? We don't know. They may publicly scream from the bleachers that Apple is doomed to failure, or whatever, but we are not privy to what they are doing behind the scenes.

 

Let it be said that there are no takers here for their brand of shuck and jive, except AppleInsider which continues to act as a ready and willing conduit for their sewage.

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post #57 of 107
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My narrative?
 
I don't have a narrative. It is clear the iPhone 5c is selling far less than the 5s. Are you doubting that fact?
 
Based on that I am speculating whether Apple mispriced the 5c, or if it was their plan all along. Based on their track record it is probably the latter.
 
I don't have a narrative, and I am not saying Apple is doing it wrong.

Ridiculous.

Apple has used the 'good, better, best' plan for years. Each time, when a new phone comes out, the previous flagship drops to 'better' and sells for $100 less than 'best'.

This time, for the first time, they redesigned the phone so that 'better' is the old 'best, but with a new case and some minor improvements. So, instead of being simply 'last year's phone', it's 'last year's phone, but with some better internals and redesigned to have more appeal to a younger audience'. So why should they discount it MORE than $100 (their standard practice) when they've actually improved the phone's operation?

And look at the results. They reportedly sold around 2 M 5C phones in one weekend. While that doesn't look all that hot when you compare it to 7 M for the 5S, it's actually an amazing number. Who else has ever sold 2 million of last year's phones in a single weekend? Heck, there are only a couple of phones that sold that well - even when they were the latest, greatest, flagship phone with new technology. Doing that well with last year's technology is impressive. It's even more impressive when you see how big a leap the 5S is - and people could buy it for only $100 more.

There's no rational way to label the 5C sales a failure - which is what you're suggesting no matter how much you deny it.
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post #58 of 107
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And those valid concerns are what exactly? That article is nothing but one of a long string of yearly bleating about how Apple is no longer innovative, blah blah blah. These tards were saying the same thing even before Steve Jobs died. Does no one remember how the iPad was going to fail because it was nothing but a "large iPod touch"?
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it seems like that era of innovation has given way to an age of incremental change

The keyword is 'seems', this is how stockholders view Apple even though we know different.
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Does Apple become a boring profit machine like Microsoft, churning out upgrades and improvements to its existing line of hits? Or do they find a way to create another “must have” new product, new category, new something that we never thought we needed and we can’t live without?

Another concern of stockholders, many believe the magic of Apple died when SJ did.

The author does also lavish praise upon Apple, and he wrote nothing with any conviction, it's all a bunch of 'what ifs'.
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post #59 of 107
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APPL will never inovate again, don't bank on that. Think ibank, a serious iTV, and wearables So if you are a swing trader, shut up, take your short term profits and move on to another forum

That may be true for Appell Petroleum (APPL). I don't follow them, so I don't know.

But if you think it's true of AAPL, you're delusional.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post
 

Why aren’t they being fired for being wrong? Why aren’t they docked pay for being wrong? Why aren’t they made to write public apologies for being wrong?

 

You want a secure job, be an analyst. Zero accountability, zero truth to find, zero expectations. Want another one? Be a politician in an unobservant district.

 

Want perpetual tenure? Be a political analyst.

 

So true.  One of the sad facts of our lives today is that there is no accountability for one's actions.

post #61 of 107
Why are these analyst feeling the need to comment and provide guidance on Apple every other day. Munster got China Mobile deal wrong, been expecting an Apple TV since 2010, and now going on record that Apple only sold 5million iPhones. BTW, where's the analyst with the grotesquely low supply comment. If you are more wrong than right why hop on TV every other day. Lastly, MLee is quick to bring on a chartist when the stock is tanking. Why did we not have someone reporting on the double bottom and golden cross. Instead we hear these clowns saying Apple's fair value is 300k. If you not gonna help people make money get off the set!
post #62 of 107
"Gene Munster, Piper Jaffray
Sales numbers are higher than expected, but that may be due to retained inventory rather than sales to consumers."

Gene, Gene, Gene. Are you living in some sort of parallel universe where a limited number of units available for sale ("retained inventory") yields higher sales numbers? That's like saying "We only had 100 widgets to sell and were were able to sell 150 of 'em."

Bwhahahahaha.
post #63 of 107
The irony here is so huge. Analysts or many of them at least, insanely predicted that apple would rise to 1000 per share. When instead of this the stock got cut in half, said analysts looked like ignorant fools. They got mad. And they wanted apple to go down. And it was going down and down and down. So they felt justified and empowered again. So they predicted apple would go insanely even lower. Uh oh. Apple is shooting up.


So the same analysts who looked like incompetent fools for forecasting 1000 now look like incompetent fools for forecasting that the new phones would flop and the company would disappear. And those analysts are even more angry and upset. They blame apple for burning them rather than blaming themselves for their own short sightedness ań incompetence.

The rule: and I have learned this the hard way. Leave emotions at home when you go to Wall Street or you will get burned. I don't care if you're trading or analyzing. Be objective not emotional.

Any objective analysis of apple right now will conclude the stock is going only one direction over the next months at least: up.

But the burned analysts will wait and pray it falls. Imao.
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The irony here is so huge. Analysts or many of them at least, insanely predicted that apple would rise to 1000 per share. When instead of this the stock got cut in half, said analysts looked like ignorant fools. They got mad. And they wanted apple to go down. And it was going down and down and down. So they felt justified and empowered again. So they predicted apple would go insanely even lower. Uh oh. Apple is shooting up.


So the same analysts who looked like incompetent fools for forecasting 1000 now look like incompetent fools for forecasting that the new phones would flop and the company would disappear. And those analysts are even more angry and upset. They blame apple for burning them rather than blaming themselves for their own short sightedness ań incompetence.

The rule: and I have learned this the hard way. Leave emotions at home when you go to Wall Street or you will get burned. I don't care if you're trading or analyzing. Be objective not emotional.

Any objective analysis of apple right now will conclude the stock is going only one direction over the next months at least: up.

But the burned analysts will wait and pray it falls. Imao.

 

How do you know if these self-serving shills lost or made money? They probably were selling even as they were proclaiming "Apple's going to $1,000". Now, I'm certain as they continue to deride the stock they are purchasing more (or at least advising their slow-witted clients to do so).

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What's there to laugh at? They know full well what they are up to. I personally think there needs to be laws about what these guys can claim about a stock on the public stage. They are within the law, but are behaving in a grossly unethical matter.

Yep, you got that right - it's the beloved US concept of "freedom of speech" - anyone can say anything at any time apparently.

What I don't understand is why anyone listens - surely these so-called analysts have demonstrated, time and again, that their analyses are just words with nothing behind them.

What I really cannot understand is the relationship between analyst predictions and AAPL stock prices.  I'm not a conspiracy-theorist, but it's hard not to think that someone is either irrationally listening to analyst blogs (how stupid are we?) or cynically generating wild predictions for price manipulation (capitalism at its finest).

Whatever - we can't do much about it - and Apple will still continue to outperform, innovate and surprise.

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I mean, how can someone make such an astoundingly insane statement? ........ What twisted, irrational, psychotic logic. 

Welcome to CNBC after 10 AM. A wasteland.

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Yep, you got that right - it's the beloved US concept of "freedom of speech" - anyone can say anything at any time apparently.



Not true. Stock manipulation is illegal. If they knowingly spread false information and then profit from it, they could face SEC penalties.

Of course, it's nearly impossible to prove that they knowingly spread false information, so they're not likely to get caught, but it CAN BE illegal.
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Apple did what they needed to do to drive this number up.  An aggressive buyback of old phones...it only follows people with credit for an iPhone5S were going to upgrade to it, how much did this impact the opening weekend?  

 

Releasing the phone globally (think about it, Apple did 2 million in China the first weekend last year).  Assuming they matched that number this year and this years number drop to 7 million versus 5 million as a direct comparison.  What did they do in all the other markets they didnt sell to in September last year?  Say 1 million total?  Now we're down to 6 million versus 5 million in a true comparison of opening weekends.

 

Needless to say a second model helped sales to a degree.

 

It seems pretty transparent Apple did as much as possible to front load sales so the first weekend "destroyed" last years number, and having 9 million phones available to sell is by itself pretty impressive, but the reality is how many of these sales were just accelerated sales that were captured in from October through December last year? at a minimum 2 million from China alone and probably closer to 3.  Given orders are backed up into October, and it is the holiday quarter, next quarter should be fine as well, but how will overall sales compare to the comparable quarters in 11 and 12?  In short is this going to provide a long term boost to the stock or will it be just a temporary shot in the arm that wears off as sales slow again after December?

 

Apple needs another revenue source to materially impact EPS.   Phones alone have done about all they can do.

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Not true. Stock manipulation is illegal. If they knowingly spread false information and then profit from it, they could face SEC penalties.

Of course, it's nearly impossible to prove that they knowingly spread false information, so they're not likely to get caught, but it CAN BE illegal.

 

It would be difficult, if not impossible to prove this charge. Do these hacks actually buy and sell stocks? Do they merely advise companies or individuals to buy or sell? Are they essentially freelancing salespeople hired by financial houses to throw sand in the eyes of each other to see who blinks first?

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The 5c price seems a little high to me too, but I'm sure the folks at Apple who determined the 5c price point put significantly more research, thought and analysis into their decision than anyone who posts on Apple Insider, including myself. My own speculation as to why the 5s is outselling the 5c 3.5 to 1 during the first week of sales is that early adopters are more inclined to chose the high-end option with all the bells and whistles, and they tend to have more disposable income, meaning that $100 difference doesn't seem like much to them. Early adopters want the best, no matter what the cost. 
 
I'm sure the 5s and 5c are selling pretty much as Apple expected them to sell the first week. Once the early-adopter feeding frenzy is over I think we'll see more cost-conscious consumers entering the waters and within a few months the 5c sales will start gaining ground on the 5s and will eventually overtake the 5s in monthly sales.

Good points. Yours was probably the only decent response to my comment and brings up a point I did not consider. (The fact that someone managed to read my words and think I was implying the 5c is a failure is crazy. How does 9m phones in 3 days ever mean failure?).

I am trying to determine the Apple strategy with the 5c.

I speculated that based on the fact that it didn't outsell the 5s in the first week apple either mispriced it (unlikely) or they never wanted it to be the top seller. They wanted it to make the upsell to the 5s far easier.

You bring up a good point that 1st week sales probably do not reflect the price conscious customers and that once the die hards have got their 5s, the sales pendulum will swing back in favor of the 5cbecause of price.

Again it is stupid for me to even think of calling the 5c a failure because the whole point of my post was that I am not sure what Apple's 5c strategy is. I can't call something a failure when I don't even know what goal it is supposed to achieve.
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"Gene Munster, Piper Jaffray
Sales numbers are higher than expected, but that may be due to retained inventory rather than sales to consumers."

Gene, Gene, Gene. Are you living in some sort of parallel universe where a limited number of units available for sale ("retained inventory") yields higher sales numbers? That's like saying "We only had 100 widgets to sell and were were able to sell 150 of 'em."

Bwhahahahaha.

It's more like we made 100 widgets but had 50 leftover before these new improved widgets came out so we're including them in the sales figures, but even with that I don't believe old inventory of iPhones accounted for more than a few hundred thousand.
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Apple did what they needed to do to drive this number up.  An aggressive buyback of old phones...it only follows people with credit for an iPhone5S were going to upgrade to it, how much did this impact the opening weekend?  

Releasing the phone globally (think about it, Apple did 2 million in China the first weekend last year).  Assuming they matched that number this year and this years number drop to 7 million versus 5 million as a direct comparison.  What did they do in all the other markets they didnt sell to in September last year?  Say 1 million total?  Now we're down to 6 million versus 5 million in a true comparison of opening weekends.

Needless to say a second model helped sales to a degree.

It seems pretty transparent Apple did as much as possible to front load sales so the first weekend "destroyed" last years number, and having 9 million phones available to sell is by itself pretty impressive, but the reality is how many of these sales were just accelerated sales that were captured in from October through December last year? at a minimum 2 million from China alone and probably closer to 3.  Given orders are backed up into October, and it is the holiday quarter, next quarter should be fine as well, but how will overall sales compare to the comparable quarters in 11 and 12?  In short is this going to provide a long term boost to the stock or will it be just a temporary shot in the arm that wears off as sales slow again after December?

Apple needs another revenue source to materially impact EPS.   Phones alone have done about all they can do.

Outside of hardcore fans, people buy new phones when they need them or when their contracts are up. You can front load supply but you can't make people buy them.

Have you met the iPad? That thing just print money.
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Where is Al Franken when you need him? Congressional hearing please.

 

Al Franken is a putz.

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Not true. Stock manipulation is illegal. If they knowingly spread false information and then profit from it, they could face SEC penalties.

Of course, it's nearly impossible to prove that they knowingly spread false information, so they're not likely to get caught, but it CAN BE illegal.

 

I rest my case:  They (the supposed analysts) are not "overtly manipulating any stock", they are merely expressing  "their professional opinions".  Nothing wrong with that - your are opinions are exactly worth as much as mine - it's the American way!

 

There is no "false information" to be spread when I am just offering an opinion - it's just an opinion.  Of course, if someone's stock crashes because of my comments - I'm soooo sorry - it was just an opinion - no-one should have listened to me.

 

Now that's good advice.

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The keyword is 'seems', this is how stockholders view Apple even though we know different.
Another concern of stockholders, many believe the magic of Apple died when SJ did.

The author does also lavish praise upon Apple, and he wrote nothing with any conviction, it's all a bunch of 'what ifs'.

 

So as I said, nothing but the same yearly bleating about how Apple is no longer innovative, blah blah blah. Just look back when the iPod came out. It was nearly universally panned by people (No wireless. Less storage than a Nomad. Lame).  The iPhone had plenty of detractors when it came out.  The iPad was mocked before and after it was announced for all sorts of reasons. And almost every new iPhone has always had numerous people whining about it being iterative not innovative even before Jobs died. So as I said, can you point to something of substance in that article rather than just the same rehashed crap that we see every year?

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So as I said, nothing but the same yearly bleating about how Apple is no longer innovative, blah blah blah. Just look back when the iPod came out. It was nearly universally panned by people (No wireless. Less storage than a Nomad. Lame).  The iPhone had plenty of detractors when it came out.  The iPad was mocked before and after it was announced for all sorts of reasons. And almost every new iPhone has always had numerous people whining about it being iterative not innovative even before Jobs died. So as I said, can you point to something of substance in that article rather than just the same rehashed crap that we see every year?

Again, the author doesn’t outright say that Apple isn't innovating, he just said that it seems like it. Unfortunately sometimes perception is stronger than reality.
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Again, the author doesn’t outright say that Apple isn't innovating, he just said that it seems like it. Unfortunately sometimes perception is stronger than reality.

This is true. It's why Phil said what he said at WWDC.

"Can't innovate anymore my ass" was birthed from the perception from outsiders that Apple doesn't innovate anymore.

Let's hope that perception will die once and for all this next 12 months. According to Cook there is a lot to look forward to.
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bottom line:

the 5s is a smash hit, and Touch ID is a "killer" feature.

sales of high end android just got iced until they catch up.

next come the new iPads with Touch ID.

Apple will have a monster fourth quarter.
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The 5c price seems a little high to me too, but I'm sure the folks at Apple who determined the 5c price point put significantly more research, thought and analysis into their decision than anyone who posts on Apple Insider, including myself. My own speculation as to why the 5s is outselling the 5c 3.5 to 1 during the first week of sales is that early adopters are more inclined to chose the high-end option with all the bells and whistles, and they tend to have more disposable income, meaning that $100 difference doesn't seem like much to them. Early adopters want the best, no matter what the cost. 

 
I'm sure the 5s and 5c are selling pretty much as Apple expected them to sell the first week. Once the early-adopter feeding frenzy is over I think we'll see more cost-conscious consumers entering the waters and within a few months the 5c sales will start gaining ground on the 5s and will eventually overtake the 5s in monthly sales.

 

I'd just like to highlight is the prices outside the US:

 
US:
16GB 5S (unlocked), $649
16GB 5C (unlocked), $549
 

UK:
16GB 5S (unlocked), £549 = $881
16GB 5C (unlocked), £469 = $752

 

France:
16GB 5S (unlocked), €699 = $943
16GB 5C (unlocked), €599 = $808

 

Australia:
16GB 5S (unlocked), A$869 = $820
16GB 5C (unlocked), A$739 = $698

 

The gap between what you pay in the US and what you pay outside the US is absurd - it's nearly a 50% premium.

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