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In last company meeting, Ballmer calls Apple 'fashionable,' says Microsoft about 'doing more'

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Microsoft chief Steve Ballmer may be on his way out soon, but he's not leaving without taking a few more swipes at Apple, Amazon, and Google.



In what will likely be his final appearance at Microsoft's companywide meeting as chief executive, Ballmer took the stage with his typical bombast, according to Reuters. The Microsoft chief sought to reassure the 13,000 full-time employees in attendance ? as well as the 25,000 tuned in on the web ? that the Redmond software giant still has a big role to play in the future of computing.

"We have unbelievable potential in front of us, we have an unbelievable destiny," said Ballmer, reusing a quote from Microsoft's first companywide meeting in 1983.

Ballmer also took the opportunity to take a swipe at Apple and a couple of other competitors that have largely stolen Microsoft's thunder in the new age of computing. Apple, Ballmer said, is about being "fashionable," while Amazon is about being "cheap," and Google is about "knowing more." Microsoft, Ballmer said, is about "doing more."

Ballmer's most recent swipes are just the latest in a string of dismissals from the Microsoft exec toward the company's rivals, even as those rivals have gone on to greater heights in the areas where they are head-to-head with Microsoft. Apple, derided as a "low-volume player" last year by Ballmer, is the most profitable firm making smartphones and tablets, which appear to be the future of popular computing. Google, too, has been the target of barbs from Ballmer, even as that company maintains a massive market share lead over Microsoft's Bing search engine.

Still, the Microsoft exec is upbeat on the company's future.

"Only our company and a handful of others are poised to write the future," he continued. "We're going to think big, we're going to bet big."

In less than a year, Ballmer will step down as Microsoft's CEO, though a successor has yet to be named. The announcement came abruptly in late August, and it has been suggested that his departure ? coming soon after Ballmer announced a reorganization of the company ? was neither as planned or smooth as the company wants it to appear.

That future will be as a devices and services company, a path solidified recently by Microsoft's $7.2 billion acquisition of Nokia's cell phone business, as well as the revelation of new Surface tablet units this week.
post #2 of 140
"Apple, Ballmer said, is about being "fashionable," while Amazon is about being "cheap," and Google is about "knowing more." Microsoft, Ballmer said, is about "doing more." "

So he's saying Microsoft stands for "being unfashionable, expensive* and knowing less"

Good heavens, I never thought I'd agree with Monkey Boy!

*The 'expensive' isn't about the cheap crappy PCs but the enormous waste of time and money keeping the crap running.
Edited by digitalclips - 9/27/13 at 7:50am
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post #3 of 140
Did I read that right, we just bought Nokia so we are saved?
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delusional to the last. he'd make a great politician.

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nice monkey face.
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Good luck with that. I will note that that's the same marketing angle Blackberry used on it's way out. Apple was a cool looking toy, but Blackberry was for people who got things done.
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 In less than a year, Ballmer will step down as Microsoft's CEO, though a successor has yet to be named. The announcement came abruptly in late August, and it has been suggested that his departure ? coming soon after Ballmer announced a reorganization of the company ? was neither as planned or smooth as the company wants it to appear

 

In other words, Microsoft employees are frantically searching used car lots around the world looking for a suitable replacement.

 
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post #8 of 140
Whatever you say, pit stain...
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What is MS doing, exactly?

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By how much can something go over someone's head? Hey half wit, the ones you call "fashionable" are the ones who have created the modern desktop and notebook GUI, the modern smartphone, the modern tablet, the modern digital distribution, the modern cloud, the modern music industry and are continuing relentlessly. God, this guy is seriously delusional - so much so, he's actually funny sometimes.
post #11 of 140
It's still his job. What else should he say?
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I am still amaze on how what made the PC dominate just isnt working in the mobile space. Everyone had to have the same OS and everyone had to have MS office.  It looks like dev's are used to make apps for 2 OS's now, iOS and Android.

 

I see Android getting more volume, but its also more complex with all the hardware specs. iOS is easier on the hardware specs, has less clients but they are more weathly, so more likely to buy apps and make in app purchased.

 

Amazon is a special case, I see them move around a lot of hardware at cost for very little profits on the contents and services. On the other hand, they are bound to turn a profit, even if small.

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Always end on a high note, I suppose.
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Microsoft needs to rebound from this delusional bastard ASAP. They very well could go under if they stay on course.
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Buh bye!

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post #16 of 140
Huh. Based on their track record, I thought they were more about doing less and less about doing more.
post #17 of 140
What's Ballmer been smoking? MS is "doing more" for landfill operators than consumers.

MS should can his @ss now.
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MS is so far behind is so many markets, how are they ever going to change that, nobody is standing still for them to catch up. Ballmer can huff and puff all he wants, its empty words if nothing really changes, imagine when Steve Jobs went back to Apple late 90s, that he did the same without making truly difficult changes, cutting product lines to focus on a few, new product directions, move to a better computing architecture, move to a better OS architecture, find and recognize great people like Tim Cook, Jony Ive, and so many others ... I'm not going to write everyone I can think of, because I can't spell some of them 1tongue.gif, like Craig Fede ..., the French guy, what's his name, last OSX lead ... Anyway, MS cannot even find a suitable leader, and you know Ballmer truly wants to stay on, so he won't be helping on that in a sincere manner. the worst part is he is belittling competitors that are kicking his narrow minded, old fashioned, inflexible, unoriginal, unimaginative ass.
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Look past the condescending, misguided metaphor of "fashionable" and there is some truth to what he is saying. But you have to have the intellectual curiosity and wherewithal to look past your own biased filter, too.

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nice monkey face.

 

A juvenile and completely useless comment.

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Putting all the suitable jokes/insults aside. Clearly Mr. Ballmer has got completely the wrong end of the stick. Most people will not purchase products from a company that denigrates its competitors because that is interpreted as "buy our products because our competitors are fashionable, cheap or clever" however Ballmer never uses the word better. The marketplace clearly wants "fashionable, cheap or clever" and Microsoft does not produce what we the buying public want. As a U.S President once said "read my lips, give us (the buying public) what we want and can use easily not what you think we want because you do poor market research". Not all that hard to see why Ballmer is going, just a surprise it took so long!

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It's still his job. What else should he say?

 

He could look a little less stupid by not taking swipes at other companies.

 

I mean, really, how has that worked out for him.

 

Isn't that the reason he is saying goodbye.

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Apple, Ballmer said, is about being "fashionable," 

 

 

And this is exactly why this is his last meeting..  After more than a decade, he still truly does not get it.

post #24 of 140
Microsoft is "about doing more... mistakes!", I would add.
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He sounds mentally ill.
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MS has a big role to play in the future of computing? That's what is unbelievable.

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In phones and tablets Apple is a higher volume player than MS. Too bad Ballmer couldn't inject any realities in his speech. It was all "were doing great and our competitors suck."

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post #28 of 140
M$ about 'doing more'...

Sweating? Monkey dancing? Masturbating?
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"Apple, Ballmer said, is about being "fashionable," while Amazon is about being "cheap," and Google is about "knowing more." Microsoft, Ballmer said, is about "doing more." "

So %u2026 He's saying Microsoft stands for "being unfashionable, expensive* and knowing less%u2026"

Good heavens, I never thought I'd agree with Monkey Boy!

*The 'expensive' isn't about the cheap crappy PCs but the enormous waste of time and money keeping the crap running.

 

:lol:

I'll miss monkey boy. His reign benefitted Apple immensely

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MS has a big role to play in the future of computing? That's what is unbelievable.

It's true, MS will show other companies what NOT to do.
post #31 of 140
Poor Ballmer..........just go..............away................far away
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delusional to the last. he'd make a great politician.

 

Remember "Baghdad Bob?" The SNL skit was hilarious too. Just stick Ballmer in there and...Boom!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfAeMtcURg0


Edited by lkrupp - 9/27/13 at 7:41am
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Originally Posted by island hermit View Post
 

 

He could look a little less stupid by not taking swipes at other companies.

 

I mean, really, how has that worked out for him.

 

Isn't that the reason he is saying goodbye.

 

How has it worked for out for him? Let's think about that ... Tell me you wouldn't trade places with him.

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How has it worked for out for him? Let's think about that ... Tell me you wouldn't trade places with him.

 

How has that worked out for him? In the context of my comment and in the context of the story. Not that well.

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post #35 of 140

You can't really expect Ballmer to look at things rationally and admit the errors that were made under his administration. If he does that, then the whole time he ran MSFT he would have to see himself and his time there as a massive failure. As the marketing person he is, I don't think he could ever admit to that, except maybe in hindsight in 20 years or so(it took Sculley quite a few years to figure out what had happened at Apple). By blaming the other companies, he allows himself to be off the hook for the problems MSFT is facing now. It wasn't his fault. It was the other guy's fault officer. Looking at things right now, history will not be kind to Mr. Ballmer.

 

But at least Ballmer is consistent. Total lack of class from beginning to end. Not surprising at all.

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Look past the condescending, misguided metaphor of "fashionable" and there is some truth to what he is saying. But you have to have the intellectual curiosity and wherewithal to look past your own biased filter, too.

 

Yes, there is truth to what he is saying. Apple makes products that people actually want to buy. Microsoft, on the other hand, makes products that next to no one wants to buy (Zune, Zune RT, KIN, etc.) or products that people are forced to use because of business decisions (Microsoft Office). Instead of belittling and mocking Apple, he should be working to push products that consumers actually want. And, no, being able to run Microsoft Office is not a feature that drives sales to consumers. Also, you don't see Apple have to offer gift card trade-ins for other people's products to drive sales like Microsoft is forced into doing. So other than more petty insults I don't see much intellectual depth behind the statement.

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MS has a big role to play in the future of computing? That's what is unbelievable.

I think this means they will help gates run the second largest land fill company in the US.
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Ballmer also took the opportunity to take a swipe at Apple and a couple of other competitors that have largely stolen Microsoft's thunder in the new age of computing. Apple, Ballmer said, is about being "fashionable," while Amazon is about being "cheap," and Google is about "knowing more." Microsoft, Ballmer said, is about "doing more."

 

This is why you are no longer CEO, Mr Balmer.  You still refuse to admit that other companies are doing things better than Microsoft.  If you can't admit when someone else gets something right then you're never going to be able to come up with something better.

 

Out with the more and in with the better!

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By how much can something go over someone's head? Hey half wit, the ones you call "fashionable" are the ones who have created the modern desktop and notebook GUI, the modern smartphone, the modern tablet, the modern digital distribution, the modern cloud, the modern music industry and are continuing relentlessly. God, this guy is seriously delusional - so much so, he's actually funny sometimes.

 

Indeed!  He reminds me of "Comical Ali", the Iraqi Information Minister that provided hilarious propaganda broadcasts about the Iraqi Army's imminent and glorious victory, even while the country & city were crumbling around him.

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It's still his job. What else should he say?

 

Focus on Microsoft, their strengths, and what they can do. No need to call out the 2-3 companies kicking your ass. It (1) proves that they are beating you, otherwise you wouldn't call them out, and (2) shows you fear them and have no other defensive move, such as --> stating what makes you different and the best choice.

 

Same thing for the most recent Windows Phone commercial. The LONE couple, all the way in the back, in folding chairs, while dozens of iOS and Android users duke it out, standing in front of you. You barely show your product, but do show a ton of iPhone 5s and Galaxy phones.

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