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Atlanta-based Delta Airlines will reportedly equip its pilots with Microsoft's Surface 2 tablet, rather than Apple's iPad, as the airline rolls out its electronic flight bag program in the coming years.

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Just weeks after closing a deal to equip its more than 19,000 flight attendants with Nokia Lumia 820 units running Windows Phone 8, Delta Airlines has chosen Microsoft's newly announced Surface 2 tablet with Windows RT as the pack horse of its corporate electronic flight bag (EFB) program, according to a report from Windows IT Pro. The news comes despite the airline's trial of Apple's iPad and subsequent implementation of an iPad-based "bring your own device" program for pilots.

Delta said in an email to its employees that the company expects the EFB program ??which replaces nearly 40 pounds of paper documents and charts with electronic versions ? to be fully operational within two years, adding that a public announcement is imminent. Delta began trials of its EFB program with the iPad in 2011, shortly after the Federal Aviation Administration approved Apple's tablet for cockpit use.

The airline currently allows pilots to use their personal iPads, but expects "iPad Bring Your Own Device (BYOD) users to transition to a company-issued device," according to the report. The twin moves to Microsoft-based products mark an apparent about-face for Delta on Apple devices, as the world's largest airline by fleet size began to roll out more than 4,500 iPads to its airport restaurants just last year.

Major airlines have looked favorably upon the iPad since the beginning of the tablet-based EFB trend. United Continental is in the midst of distributing more than 11,000 iPads to its flight crews, while American Airlines became the first major airline to fully deploy tablets in all cockpits during all phases of flight in June of this year.
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Ugh!

 

Guess I won't being buying a Ford (Sync) or a Tesla (Android) or now flying on Delta.


Edited by christopher126 - 9/27/13 at 11:32am
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Meh. That would fit in well with the rest of Delta's experience.
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post #4 of 163

Product Placement, takes a cruel twist

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This is good news! I always did wonder how Pilots made it to their final destination without Microsoft Office¿

 

Why on earth would they choose Surface RT? Devices that haven't even been released yet? Just how stable are these tablets going to be?

 

I'm guessing Microsoft either gave them away or gave Delta a HUGE discount just for the sake of media exposure.

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post #6 of 163
Another typical IT department decision...they never pick what users want, only what is cheapest or has the best kickback from the vendor. That's why Apple got out of the enterprise space and focused on the consumer space...where the end user determines their product.
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Wonder what the kickbacks and bribes were.
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Ugh!

Guess I won't being buying a Ford (Sync) or a Tesla (Android) or now flying on Delta.
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They just got a deal they couldn't refuse. It's not like the Surface 2 is such a bad product, it just doesn't have any software for it. For this specific application, that's not an issue as the tablet is supposed to only contain the technical manuals. It's very likely that Microsoft has provided the tablets and phones at or below cost, just to get some buzz going. At this point, it's not like they have much to lose anyway.
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Delta might have gotten a fire-sale deal on Surface 2 ;-) Since Delta already has BYOD, I assume those company provided Surface 2 might end up collecting dust.

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Disclaimer: MS has just made a big investment in Delta.
I will travel United anytime, I hope they deploy iPads.
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Does Microsoft provide the kickstand ?

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post #13 of 163
Stupid decision Delta! My guess is Micro$oft offered them to Delta either discounted or free. Pathetic!
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Why on earth would they choose Surface RT?

 

Live tiles, two apps at once, a clickity-clack keyboard. DUH!!!

 

/s

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Blue screen of death now means something completely different.
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If you can't compete give it away for little or nothing... And claim growth *artificial*.... Can't fault Delta.
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Microsoft is practically giving these things away.

It is in IT managers own self-interest to perpetuate the Microsoft bureaucracy.

God forbid they go with a platform that reduces their dependence on a bloated central IT division to keep all the plates spinning(or planes flying).

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So, does anyone else make a Windows RT tablet, or only Microsoft? I'm asking because at least for Surface Pro there are other companies that make hardware that is compatible. I can imagine that MS will keep pushing the Surface Pro to version 3 and even if they don't other companies will still push the platform forward.
With Surface 2, I think it could end up being the next Kin and cancelled within weeks of delivery if sales are as poor as one might expect. Even worse than with Zune, that lasted several years but eventually died.
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post #19 of 163
hmmm- one has to wonder if Delta is purchasing these things or if MS is adopting the Amazon business model and giving them away. Not a bad marketing ploy but pity the pilots, downgraded yet again. Lets hope the interface is an improvement, unlike the MySync fail.
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It has a kickstand. Click. See?
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Not risking my life on Blue Screen of Death 1wink.gif
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Wonder what the kickbacks and bribes were.

 

Buy one get fifty free!

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post #24 of 163
This is a two year project. Who knows what will happen in the end.
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Ugh!

 

Guess I won't being buying a Ford (Sync) or a Tesla (Android) or now flying on Delta.

 

But you will still buy Apple devices built with Samsung parts?

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Next Air Crash Investigation TV episode:
"Scratching the Surface"
Pilot miraculously saves a plane from crashing using his personal iPad after company deployed Surface computer unexpectedly crashes leaving pilots, crew and passengers stranded.
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Unlimited $499 gift cards from the Microsoft store.
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Not risking my life on Blue Screen of Death 1wink.gif

 

That is actually a concern.

 

"Pull up the manual!!"

 

"It won't turn on!"

 

"Reboot it!!!!!"

 

"I did and now it's all blue!!!!!!"

 

"May day!!! May day!!!"

 

Delta ejects 4500 Surface tablets over the ocean from 35,000 feet.

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Amazon Might be on to something with that Mayday button.
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Wonder what the kickbacks and bribes were.

 

They were told that Ballmer will not be flying with Delta. Deal clinched!

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post #31 of 163
What idiots
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Are these Surface 2's actually approved ?
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Blue Sky Of Death

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Don't rule out Tesla. It was not Android in the end. Just Linux.

Correct. It's Mercedes you need to hate on. And Audi. And Hyundai. Well, and Tesla a little bit.
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But you will still buy Apple devices built with Samsung parts?

 

Yep. But not for long, I hope! :)

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Don't rule out Tesla. It was not Android in the end. Just Linux.

 

Good to know! Thx.

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I didn't like Delta before and now I really don't. Not flying with them again. American Airways is the best domestic airline!

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I wonder if they paid Delta to take these at no cost?  MS might consider that a worthwhile advertising expense.

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Another typical IT department decision...they never pick what users want, only what is cheapest or has the best kickback from the vendor. That's why Apple got out of the enterprise space and focused on the consumer space...where the end user determines their product.

 

I think you're right about this.

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Pilot to Tower: "Tower this is Delta flight 237, we're hearing strange sounds in the plane"

Tower to Pilot: "Delta 237, please elaborate"

Pilot to Tower: "It's hard to explain, every once in a while we hear a clickety-clack sound"

Tower to Pilot: "Any other strange phenomena?"

Pilot to Tower: "Apparently some of the passengers are dancing around during this clickety-clack sound. Surely it must be ok?"

Tower to Pilot: "You have serious problems Delta 237! Turn around and land the plane. And whatever you do, do not rely on your instruction manual device!!!! There could be a Surface crash.......and don't call me Shirley"

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