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post #41 of 122
The fact they have to defend themselves about copying says a lot about their reputation..
post #42 of 122
So why is Samsung making a big deal about a phone with such limited availability geographically?

They're really picking a fight over a phone's color?

A gold colored plastic bodied phone?

I think those 9 million iPhones sold in 3 days really freaked out the whole sector 1smile.gif
post #43 of 122
Samsung Sham-shung. Who gives a flying fart?
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Wow, why all the hostility. This kind of "flattery" started w/ Japan post war who, with a conscience,copied American products.
Now, as a clear FAN of Apple I have owned every iPhone including 5s( took it back after 2 days, purchased 1year into my contract)

As Wurm5150 wrote: "The fact they have to defend themselves about copying says a lot about their reputation."
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(cont) I am bored with small screen and getting older. I am tired of this small screen and would like more multi tasking within programs! Can't do on Apples IOS so the note 3 seems like a viable option, but after being so accustomed to iPhones build quality it's a tough step for me.

If your complaint is truly about display size and really do love Apple product then buy an iPad, but I have a feeling none of that is true.
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As Wurm5150 wrote: "The fact they have to :so quickly: defend themselves about copying says a lot about their reputation."

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post #46 of 122
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(cont) I am bored with small screen and getting older. I am tired of this small screen and would like more multi tasking within programs! Can't do on Apples IOS so the note 3 seems like a viable option, but after being so accustomed to iPhones build quality it's a tough step for me.
At the end of the day we should be able to look back at our comments and know that we were respectful of others and there opinions.
Something we Americans need more of.


Larger screens do not solve issues with visual acuity. A much better option is adjusting text size, enhancing contrast and using bold font options. Larger isn't necessarily better.

What "multi-tasking" would you like?

At the end of the day I prefer kindness and generosity over logic and reason, however, Android OEMs and Android fanatics do not offer kindness and generosity or logic and reason.
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Larger screens do not solve issues with visual acuity. A much better option is adjusting text size, enhancing contrast and using bold font options. Larger isn't necessarily better.

This is where Apple has done some amazing things with iOS. Even now with iOS 7 system app text is better idealized for the display based on your text size requirements.

Furthermore, the iPhone and iPad have allowed the literally blind to use commercial computing devices with relative ease. I'm not saying that no one else has worked to support those with disabilities but I don't know that Apple definitely pioneered it in a consumer device with their iPhone.
post #48 of 122

Enough is enough! Fxxk you Samsung!!

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Okay, fine, Samsung is winning, whatever that means. But it's annoying when they act like teenage girls with their advertising and corporate messaging, like a bunch of 12-year old whining little bitches complaining about how "Aubrey stole Jessica's boyfriend and then she told Steven that he was going to the Bieber concert with Ashley who then went to One Direction with Aidan instead!"

EVERYONE hates Aubrey! She's such a rag!
post #50 of 122
@ wurm5150- iPhone? IPad? Ringing a bell here? I actually owned every iPad and sold(nice quality better than samsung tabs) I have 27" iMac, 13" pro
I want a combo yet portable come on 6" iPhone 6. troll?
You have gotten personnel and I have not.
This is a opinion regarding phone color and one should retain some dignity. Not reality T.V. NOT the "Housewives of Orange County "
post #51 of 122
And the worlds has been raving about theses phones since 2004.....oh wait, not
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Originally Posted by edenroc00 View Post

(cont) I am bored with small screen and getting older. I am tired of this small screen and would like more multi tasking within programs! Can't do on Apples IOS so the note 3 seems like a viable option, but after being so accustomed to iPhones build quality it's a tough step for me.
At the end of the day we should be able to look back at our comments and know that we were respectful of others and there opinions.
Something we Americans need more of.

 

I bet the note looks great by your head while your on the phone, good wind screen.  You got "bored" with the small screen, who gets bored with a screen ?  phones are the least of your issues

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Originally Posted by edenroc00 View Post
Now, as a clear FAN of Apple I have owned every iPhone including 5s( took it back after 2 days, purchased 1year into my contract) I actually owned every iPad and sold(nice quality better than samsung tabs) I have 27" iMac, 13" pro

 

No one gives a flying frick. If you actually had a valid argument to present, you wouldn’t say any of this.

 

Originally Posted by edenroc00 View Post
I am bored with small screen

 

That’s a new one, though. “Bored” with a small screen.

 
…and would like more multi tasking within programs!

 

Nice segue. /s

 

Never mind what “within programs” even means or implies.

 
Can’t do on Apples IOS so the note 3 seems like a viable option…

 

Other than “be worthless”, there is nothing the Note line can do that the iPhones cannot.

 

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I want a combo yet portable come on 6" iPhone 6.

 

6” isn’t a phone.

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post #54 of 122
Samsungs phone style completely changed after the iPhone. But, isn't that direct competition forcing change and evolution?
Isn't Target nothing but a coping scam.?Everything they sell is essentially copied and affordable for the masses.
Do I hate Target for designing something I can afford rather than paying 3000.00 for a original
post #55 of 122
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Originally Posted by edenroc00 View Post

Wow, why all the hostility. This kind of "flattery" started w/ Japan post war who, with a conscience,copied American products.
Now, as a clear FAN of Apple I have owned every iPhone including 5s( took it back after 2 days, purchased 1year into my contract)

If you've owned every iPhone (including, I assume, the 5), were you not aware that the 5s has the same body/screen size? Nowhere in the marketing for the 5s was "new larger screen" mentioned, so what were you expecting?

If you did know the 5s was the same as the 5, screen-wise, then why buy something you knew you were "bored with", and wouldn't be happy with (and destined to return after a single day )?

Odd.

I'm not being a jerk. I just can't figure out why you bought the thing. The second-year "s" models have never been radical design departures from the previous year's model...just improvements "under the hood", but packed into the same body design.
Edited by pscates - 9/29/13 at 8:18am
post #56 of 122
@tallest skil, 6" does seem a bit large.. Part of the de.... Ok example here trying to spell a word and it's not looking correct and auto-correct is not helping. Now what, grab a actual Dictionary or open a second window?
iPhone I must push home button go to my app and then return.
post #57 of 122
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Samsungs phone style completely changed after the iPhone. But, isn't that direct competition forcing change and evolution?

A company out maneuvering their competitors gives neither a legal nor moral allowance for their lessors to steal from them in an attempt to catch up.

I don't think anyone thinks Apple was the first to make a gold phone. Even going back to the original landline phones there were brass and copper colored phones… because they were made out of brass and copper. Those are certainly more gold in appearance than some of those brown-gold phones Samsung has released previously.

To paraphrase Steve Jobs, "Samsung has no taste." Samsung is a highly competent company as shown by their marketshare, revenue and profits of Android-based devices, among many other areas* of their business but these examples of what they did first show that they didn't have anyone with taste prevent those ugly creations from being released to market (same goes for Nokia), and shows that they really don't understand why Apple is appealing.
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Isn't Target nothing but a coping scam?

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* Their chip manufacturing seems unmatched by anyone but Intel, who doesn't (yet?) make ARM chips. Perhaps a testament to Samsung is that they produced — not designed — the A7 chip and yet we heard nothing about it being 64-bit. Surely they would have known this was the case and yet they didn't usurp Apple's announcement with claims from a year ago saying they are going 64-bit or leaking the info. This doesn't excuse them for other things but it should in some small way show that not all aspects of Samsung's business are not run the same.
post #58 of 122
Wanted the lastest like I do every year and had to pay 589.00 out of pocket plus activation. I have NOT purchased a note 3
Just curious. Will probably wait to see what IPhone 6 does, bit edgy for that "new" toy
Apple has really simplified my life
post #59 of 122
Well said,... Thank you
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Originally Posted by edenroc00 View Post

@tallest skil, 6" does seem a bit large.. Part of the de.... Ok example here trying to spell a word and it's not looking correct and auto-correct is not helping. Now what, grab a actual Dictionary or open a second window?
iPhone I must push home button go to my app and then return.

So you want a windowed OS structure in your phone instead of seamlessly moving between fullscreen apps. Since you're making foolish requests would like a Start button to go with that? How about they make the display resistive and put in a nifty slot for a stylus?

BTW, there is a dictionary in iOS that can accessed from any word. It's quite comprehensive with the number of dictionaries it supports. You can also simple ask Siri whilst in an app how to spell a word if you don't want to go to have this "out of app" experience.
post #61 of 122
Oops@akqies well said. Thanks
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I don't care who is making "Gold" phones. Apple, Samsung, Blackberry, HTC, they are all friggen hideous and gaudy

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Wanted the lastest like I do every year and had to pay 589.00 out of pocket plus activation. I have NOT purchased a note 3
Just curious. Will probably wait to see what IPhone 6 does, bit edgy for that "new" toy
Apple has really simplified my life

If you do like having the latest every year (like a lot of us here, I'm sure) -and- you're in the US (i.e.: getting a subsidized phone on contract) -and- there are two carriers you like (or equally dislike the least) then switching carriers every year to avoid paying full price can save you a couple hundred per year.

Instead of paying, say, Verizon $649 to move from the iPhone 5 to the 5S, you can pay AT&T $199 + Verizon's ETF fee which I believe is $350 - ($10 / month) which should be about $220 which comes out to $419. Once you consider a trade-in or sale of your yearold phone you aren't paying much out of pocket, and possibly make money in a rare case.
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Originally Posted by akqies View Post
So you want a windowed OS structure in your phone instead of seamlessly moving between fullscreen apps.

 

I really, REALLY wish I had kept the version 1.0 IPSW file of this app I had years back… Well, still have it. It’s called “Desktop”, and that’s exactly what it did on the iPad. You could set a background, there was an approximation of the Start bar, and it had ten or so “apps” inside (browser, maps, calculator, dictionary, translator, etc.) that you could open in separate windows and move them around. It was neat; then Apple forced them to switch to a “two up” system and now you can only see two of them (static halves of the screen) simultaneously.

 

Wonder if I could find the old file somewhere to get screenshots…

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post #66 of 122
@ akqies didn't work. I do like your arguments
Without attacks. Clearly a man of reason. Thank you
The thought of a stylus does"suck" so to speak.
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 The plan is either an ingenious gambit, or a thinly shrouded act of desperation.

I'm inclined to believe the latter.

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The thought of a stylus does"suck" so to speak.

Jobs has a famous saying on that, too, but I think it's taken out of context. If the styus is designed to be your priamry form of input it's fail, but Samsung did a lot right with the Note line of devices. They are still capacitance touchscreen but also have an (expensive) Wacom digitizer embedded into the display which offers a level of usability and precision that can only be realized with a stylus. I think the prices may be too high for Apple to include this across the line and I don't think they would offer it as a separate line, but I hope they do offer it because the technology opens a lot of doors that the iPad currently can't reasonable address. I can only imagine that Apple's SDK and APIs for a built-in digitizer would allow for some amazing apps if they did.
post #69 of 122
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Read the reader comments in the Samsung Tomorrow link, people are bashing Samsung pretty relentlessly, PR fail.

 

LOL. It's "Goldengate." 

 

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Apple invented gold for smartphones, not feature phones. So Apple did not copy Samsung.

 

Applying a specific color is not "invention."

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post #70 of 122
I currently live in Middle East and literally just seen the samsungs. The colours are horrendous. The supposed gold one looks metallic brown and the pink well all I can say is "pink" whyyyyy
post #71 of 122
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Originally Posted by edenroc00 View Post

Samsungs phone style completely changed after the iPhone. But, isn't that direct competition forcing change and evolution?
Isn't Target nothing but a coping scam.?Everything they sell is essentially copied and affordable for the masses.
Do I hate Target for designing something I can afford rather than paying 3000.00 for a original
 
What are you talking about?

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post #72 of 122
@akqies, I do not see Apple doing anything like that. Application wise it is attractive. In which direction do you see Apple headed in the cell phone business? At what screen length will they call it quits?
Will the phone evolve into strictly a visual/ verbal experience similar to a google glass?yes I said it.....
It seems if they do not increase in size that it
Becomes limited. Clueless in this area.
post #73 of 122
On you tube I seen I " visionary" post a what if Video of a iPhone 6 that opens up and projects a 17" screen and keyboard...
Now that was forward thinking to me
post #74 of 122
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Originally Posted by edenroc00 View Post

Samsungs phone style completely changed after the iPhone. But, isn't that direct competition forcing change and evolution?
Isn't Target nothing but a coping scam.?Everything they sell is essentially copied and affordable for the masses.
Do I hate Target for designing something I can afford rather than paying 3000.00 for a original

Are you serious? Target doesn't steal formulas.
post #75 of 122

Samsung is a great company.  They've made great phones and they've become the dominant player in the cell phone industry globally.  That's a fact.

 

They're opportunistic copycats who also improve on Apple's stuff.  They didn't copy gold, but they copied Apple's canny decision to push gold at this time.

 

Do I like Sammy's phones better than Apple's?  No way.  I personally think iOS7 and the new phones are the BEST in their class.  And Apple is the best technology company.   Their ecosystem is the best.  They have the best apps available for their products.  And they have the best customer base.  They make the most money.

 

Rather than having Sammy drive Apple out of business (a la Windows in the 90's driving Macs into a corner), I see both Sammy and Google copying Apple's model and offering their own proprietary operating systems co-designed with their hardware.  

 

I predict the following.  It's not just gold phones Sammy will copy next, it's Tizen iOS + Made for Tizen.

 

And Google/Moto will have phones with Chrome + Made for Chrome.

post #76 of 122
Samsing is pathetic joke!
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Who invited the 6-inch old?
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post #78 of 122
@philboogie can't you add something here. I may be a tech idiot, but I am certainly giving it a go.
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Because Samsung *invented* gold.  Right?

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Originally Posted by 512ke View Post
 

I predict the following.  It's not just gold phones Sammy will copy next, it's Tizen iOS + Made for Tizen.

 

And Google/Moto will have phones with Chrome + Made for Chrome.

 

Samsung is on the Tizen Technical Steering Group, along with Intel.  So yeah, I expect that Samsung will eventually ship phones running Tizen.  It will allow Samsung to control their own destiny in the smartphone space, instead of depending on Google (who are now struggling to dig out of that $12.5 billion Motorola hole.)  And most of Samsung's smartphone customers will never know the difference.  Slap TouchWiz on Tizen and they'll have no idea that the underlying OS has changed.

 

And yes, ChromeOS is more important to Google than Android.

Larry Page himself said so: http://www.electronista.com/articles/12/04/18/larry.page.sees.android.as.vehicle.for.ads/

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