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News anchor Shepard Smith proudly demonstrated a remodeled "Fox News Deck" featuring massive, expensive new 55 inch touchscreens sold by Microsoft. However, the giant new screens have much lower resolution than even a 9.7" iPad.

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Smith beamed in showing off how Fox had, at considerable expense, revamped its news anchor sound stage to include actors manipulating at least ten of the massive new displays, each of which sells for around $7,100.

The displays are sold by Microsoft, which last year acquired Perceptive Pixel, the manufacturer of the giant touchscreens. The screen is essentially a very high quality HDTV equipped with a "projected capacitative" multitouch sensor. The screens are powered by Windows 8 and can also be navigated using an "Active Stylus," which works like a wireless remote control.

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Fox News said the month-long remodeling of its "revolutionary new studio" was performed in response to viewership changes, particularly the shifts occurring among users armed with mobile phones and iPads, many of which have ubiquitous data service.



"The way people consume news is changing," said Jay Wallace, Vice President of News at the company. "People aren't so linear. They don't sit down and watch TV at a certain hour. You know, and stick with the same thing from show to show to show."

"You're looking for more than just a recap of the stories you've followed all day," Smith explained over video of users reviewing a Twitter feed on an iPad and an iPhone. "Just like you, we get our news across multiple platforms. And this is the place where viewers can watch us sort it all out as it happens."

He added, "we had to completely overhaul the way our news gathering works." However, the "brand new tools to track developing stories," that Smith said Fox was installing on stage for viewers to observe actually convey far less information that a typical pair of 17 inch computer screens.

The Microsoft PPI screens have a 1920x1080 (2 megapixel) resolution, the same as a standard HDTV. That's a fraction the resolution of Apple's 15 inch Retina Display MacBook Pro (2880x1800, or over 5 megapixel), which sells from $2200.

MBP Retina Display


It's also significantly less than a $499 Retina Display iPad (2048x1536 or 3.1 megapixel), the very device 'users at home' can review Twitter with themselves, without Fox News reviewing the same information on flashy, oversized desktops running a very limited resolution.

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Most bizarrely, Fox's video portrayed its "journalists" on stage in front of massive displays devoted to showing just four different tweets. At a maximum of 140 characters each, that's no more than 560 bytes of actual information per $7,000 screen. The standard Twitter client for iPhone packs more than that on a compact 4" display.

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The PPI displays that Microsoft bought last summer also come in an 82 inch variant (at the same resolution). They do not use the same technology as the company's original "Surface" product that debuted shortly after the iPhone in 2007. That is now marketed as PixelSense and still sold by Samsung as the SUR40.
post #2 of 139
Must be all blind at Fox.
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Can another joker tell us all how Apple is doomed?
Did you actually saw some other company in the industry which is doing things better?
post #4 of 139
It's a neat idea. Networked news information stations and feeding that to a main reporter. Resolution aside...oh and the general crap of Fox News, let's give them some props for pulling this together.
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Can another joker tell us all how Apple is doomed?
Did you actually saw some other company in the industry which is doing things better?

 

Outside of a small handful specializing in click-baits, how many people are seriously saying that Apple is doomed?

 

There are far more people whining about predictions of impending doom for Apple when there has not been a serious prediction about this. But it fits the narrative of Apple being an underdog to perpetuate this myth.

post #6 of 139
Isn't that the Galaxy Note 55? Comes with a free winch to get it up to your ear, fist-touch for when you realise software written for a 4-inch display doesn't stretch that well and a Shetland Pony to aid mobility.
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post #7 of 139

Yes, it is like the 5s package that comes with a magnifying glass and an hdmi cable so that you can output to a real HD screen.

 

Android apps are scaled to 4.5 to 5 inch display size.

post #8 of 139
Fox News spreads nothing but misinformation and judging by their choice on big touch screen just to show off. You don't need big touch screen to report truth and since that isn't what they do anyway...

There were a few studies a couple years ago that cites having second monitor can improve job performance. I don't recall those studies citing anything about higher screen resolutions. Mind you, Microsoft had it's on research on this back in 2003, http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/news/features/vibe.aspx.
post #9 of 139
So does the title "Faux News" apply here? Sorry, total newb comment.
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This is really bizarre. Is this another "Ballmer legacy"? Is Microsoft's board/management a bunch of crack addicts?

 

Is Fox News even MORE desperate in "following the puck" than MS? What a dog and pony show! I keep expecting someone to come out and say, "Hey, we're just fckn' with ya!"

 

Somehow, I'm reminded of the "SUX 2000" and that fool on TV who says "I'll buy that for a dollar!" on the first "RoboCop" movie.

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post #11 of 139

Let's be honest, giant newsroom touch-monitors is not Apple's market, so this is not a loss for Apple at all.

 

Even if every newsroom in the world equipped themselves with these, we're talking a few thousand monitors at most.  Not a profitable segment to be in.

 

I do applaud Fox for at least trying to integrate with social media.... Let's see how it goes.

post #12 of 139
The dummies who watch FoxLies will just think it's better because it's bigger.
post #13 of 139
Well the video was actually interesting, from the article I was expecting to see people "beaming", but it was actually a good video. It looks like they chose the big screens because he will be going around the room and viewing the info as he walks along with the cameras. It all depends on the software how this will work. Another article that seems overly enthusiastic about no big deal.
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One of the most important tenets in ergonomic studies is to not use a working area larger than 50x80 cm (that is less than a 25" diagonal) for both hands access (note that some things can be larger if the work area at any given time is that, ie a drawing table is larger but you use a portion of it at any time).

 

That is something that is well known since about 50 years. Still from ergonomic point of view, angle is completly wrong for touch access.

 

More, from sitting distance, i would bet that you cannot read on both sides without turning head.

 

So, either fox news teams are idiots, either it is only a PR stunt.

 

Maybe even both ?

post #15 of 139
Oompa Loompas toiling away at Willy Wonka's Bullshit Factory.
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Must be all blind at Fox.

 

They're just actors playing reporters in the background.  Watch it long enough and they'll loop around to the beginning of their "shifts"

post #17 of 139
"We call them BAT's -- Big area tablets." Yeah right. That's what bat stands for lol. http://youtu.be/CZrr7AZ9nCY
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It's a neat idea. Networked news information stations and feeding that to a main reporter. Resolution aside...oh and the general crap of Fox News, let's give them some props for pulling this together.

Who in the world wants to use a 55" TV as a touch screen? A better solution would be to give the reporters iPads and then put an Apple TV on each large screen TV - using AIr Play to let the reporter manipulate the iPad and show what they want on the big screen. Way less than half the cost and far more useful (for example, the reporter could continue to look at the camera instead of showing their backside).

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Fox News spreads nothing but misinformation and judging by their choice on big touch screen just to show off. You don't need big touch screen to report truth and since that isn't what they do anyway...
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Fox News actually argued (and won) a case in front of the FL Supreme Court claiming that they had the right to lie on air and that nothing required them to tell the truth.
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post #19 of 139
This is just hilarious. What a hideous idea
post #20 of 139
wow, so funny. It would have made more sense though to have product placement for products people can actually buy.

I can't wait for the day that you see all the screens turn to a blue screen of death during live TV!! ;-)
post #21 of 139
Probably is a touch screen HDTV not a tablet.
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Probably is a touch screen HDTV not a tablet.

Really? I never would have guessed that a 55" device was a TV rather than a tablet. 1oyvey.gif
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post #23 of 139

I can understand perfectly well, why Fox News doesn't need higher resolution on their screens. To retweet some tweets it is absolutely sufficient. But I guess they could have saved some bucks.  LOL

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Who in the world wants to use a 55" TV as a touch screen? A better solution would be to give the reporters iPads and then put an Apple TV on each large screen TV - using AIr Play to let the reporter manipulate the iPad and show what they want on the big screen. Way less than half the cost and far more useful (for example, the reporter could continue to look at the camera instead of showing their backside).
Fox News actually argued (and won) a case in front of the FL Supreme Court claiming that they had the right to lie on air and that nothing required them to tell the truth.

It's Florida. Nothing here surprises me.

Re: the giant slab...no. I'd tell my employer to F off if they sat a 55 inch screen 20 inches from my nose.

And finally...it's Fox News, what do you expect? They still won't be able to see the truth that is now, literally, larger than life and right under their nose.
post #25 of 139

This just in...Fox News also found to have less news than anyone else.

post #26 of 139
I don't get the point of this story, or at least what it was to do with iPad pixels.
post #27 of 139
Don't these screens generate a lot heat?
post #28 of 139
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Isn't that the Galaxy Note 55? Comes with a free winch to get it up to your ear, fist-touch for when you realise software written for a 4-inch display doesn't stretch that well and a Shetland Pony to aid mobility.

 

 

lol

 

But it comes with a faux plastic "like Tempurpedic" cover so when you go camping it doubles up as a bed too.

 

phabed?

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Really? I never would have guessed that a 55" device was a TV rather than a tablet. 1oyvey.gif

Who would have thought? For a second there I thought my God, love to browse with this on my sofa. 1smile.gif
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Don't these screens generate a lot heat?

With all the hot air in the studio, it goes unnoticed.
post #31 of 139
This article only made me ask myself "who cares"?

My 1080p monitor has fewer pixels than an iPad. So does my 2G iPad, and my iPod touch, and my smartphone, and the MacBook Air, and every MacBook (Pro) sold prior to 2012.

What's the point? Are you disappointed that it's not Apple technology?

This is blogging at its worst.
post #32 of 139
You don't watch them for news so who cares what resolution their screens have - Faux Noise is nothing more than a right-wing propaganda machine, frothing at the mouth and arousing the knuckle-dragging mouth breathers.
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I don't get the point of this story, or at least what it was to do with iPad pixels.

 

It's Microsoft technology, so apple people have a primal need to make fun of it. 

 

I actually saw several examples of this tech at Infocomm this summer.  They're mostly frames that snap on existing displays.  Samsung (hiss!) made one that seemed to work really well.  These things are designed for hanging a display on a wall in a conference room or a classroom.  Turns a TV into a Smartboard.  The stands that Fox are using were demoed primarily as digital signage.

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You don't watch them for news so who cares what resolution their screens have - Faux Noise is nothing more than a right-wing propaganda machine, frothing at the mouth and arousing the knuckle-dragging mouth breathers.

 

Mostly true. But such a comment requires acknowledging that ALL major televised media is nothing more than chicken-wing propaganda, straight from intelligence services and the PR machine. Fox is just one particular brand, for a particular brand of viewers. CNN is another, for a different type of idiot.​

 

I still know lots of people that think these squawking lie machines are actually, "The News".

post #35 of 139
I wonder what their special realtime-journalist gear-watch will look like - 9"? And the journalist glass? Gives me a headache...
post #36 of 139
And what can they do on these screens that they couldn't do on a screen half or quarter the size? They look completely ridiculous in a news room scenario. It's like some kind of weird Tom Cruise movie!!
post #37 of 139
I thought that photo was a joke when I saw it yesterday. Why are the bezels so big? They are bigger than the iPad even if you were to shrink the 55" down to 9.7".
post #38 of 139

Aren't the people using them likely to get shoulder problems, as it looks like they'll need to stretch across to touch some parts of the screen? It's not going to be comfortable after a few hours, I wouldn't have thought.

post #39 of 139
The underlying truth, here, is that nobody wants to see news people sitting in their seats during a long segment. These bats are simply props, part of the landscape that makes the newsroom visually interesting. It is four or five tweets per screen because they will be part of the image that also includes the operator and the anchor.
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This article only made me ask myself "who cares"?

My 1080p monitor has fewer pixels than an iPad. So does my 2G iPad, and my iPod touch, and my smartphone, and the MacBook Air, and every MacBook (Pro) sold prior to 2012.

What's the point? Are you disappointed that it's not Apple technology?

This is blogging at its worst.

As a viewer you would care. It's unlikely that your 1080p is 55" which means your HDTV's pixels are smaller than the ones in those FOX displays. It's also unlikely you sit within arm's length of your HDTV which means that the pixels don't have to be small enough to get a certain effect.

Bottom line, for a 55" display that your eyes are less than 3' from 4K would be needed for decent usage.

That said, it's clear that neither FOX nor MS are caring about the users of these monstrosities but instead using them for their the viewers which are not only sitting on the other side of the camera but likely in some bubble built by FOX to help keep out logic and reason.
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