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Who cares about the incremental iPad updates...it's time for a mature AppleTV to be introduced.
The box I mean, not a real TV...never saw the point in that.

Agreed- that would be the "one more thing". It will be either white and circular or black and doughnut shaped.
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Is it just me, or are these events getting very, very long in the tooth?

Just one more "One more thing..." would reinvigorate the masses. As it is, these are old, predictable, and outright dull.

 

I think it is just  you (and the other negative people).  The way I see it, Apple will show us the premier, state-of-the-art tablet.  It will be the best tablet on the market for the next 12 months.  If you care about technology and tablets, this should be an interesting presentation. You don't think there's somewhere else to go to see next year's tablet do you?  Microsoft?  Samsung?  Remember, they present theirs after Apple, not before.  Yes, the presentations are professional and business like.  But it's still the first place you get to see the future.  

 

(Do you think both Microsoft and Samsung will be interested?  ;=)

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Agree 1000% - Mr Cook, the world's former best COO, has absolutely no clue how these "one more thing" moments were valuable for Apple's brand cachet. Now what do we have? Everything that we are told in advance by everyone and their dog...nothing else.

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There better be a Retina mini, otherwise they're wasting our time. Nobody even cares about the regular iPad anymore, it's all about the mini. Give me the Retina mini or give me death!

 

Funny,  I was thinking the same thing.. except I'm hoping for a 13" iPad.. screw the mini.

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It has been 'yep'ed

 

yep.

 

(sorry, i had to)  :-)  

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Yes, its just you. 

 

That was a Steve Jobs thing...I doubt there will be any "One more thing" anymore in Apple's lifetime. 

 

I can't see how these events are dull and predictable. Its nothing different from the way when Steve was there. There were always close predictions of when the event would happen and what would be announced. Nothing has changed. 

 

No, it's not just him. I get where he's coming from. Just look at the people in the crowd after the 5c was introduced. Look at Al Gore specifically. They all looked pretty bored.

 

Aside from the Mac Pro, there haven't really been any surprises for a while.

 

No one has to say, "one more thing" but Jobs was about creating things people didn't even know they needed. These are things that give us a new way of interacting with technology and the world around us. There hasn't been anything like that at Apple since Steve Jobs. It's all mostly been incremental improvements.

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This would explain why the earnings are one week later. Makes senses.
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There better be a Retina mini, otherwise they're wasting our time. Nobody even cares about the regular iPad anymore, it's all about the mini. Give me the Retina mini or give me death!

I prefer the regular ipad over the mini if its going to be lighter
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Is it just me, or are these events getting very, very long in the tooth?

Just one more "One more thing..." would reinvigorate the masses. As it is, these are old, predictable, and outright dull.

feel free to not pay attention.

Easier said than done. How can one not pay attention?1biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by maccherry View Post
Apple knows damn well they better introduce a retina display ipad mini or their Xmas sales will suck a**!

 

Except no.

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This event is being held BEFORE the quarterly reporting event not AFTER as has been previously done. Could this be the moment Tim follows in Steve's footsteps to pull his very own "One more thing..." event?

People were expecting a 15th announcement. Well, there is a 22nd announcement. Yesterday people were talking about the late quarterly report and what it could mean. One guy presented historical info of announcements being made AFTER late quarterly reports.

A Monday quarterly report could very well lead to a Tuesday or Wednesday "One more thing..." event. IF I were a Wall Street analyst, I would report... "Watch out Microsoft and Nintendo and Sony because the video game market is about to get a new entrant via its hobby device!!!"

You're reading way too much into this date.     In fact, I would argue the opposite.  This event is more important (to Apple) than reporting earnings, they pushed earnings back to make sure they focused on this event.     And if the customer sales date is before the 28th, then that makes for a nice store ['X00,000 iPads sold over the weekend in XX countries!] in addition to the numbers (which are supposed to be great).

 

 

Doing a 'one more thing' that impact analysts (in the eyes of Apple) would require an additional filing immediately after  (we just announced a new product that we feel is going to improve our profits/earnings/revenue, and here is the impact).  Of course if they give a historically conservative earnings number including on their knowledge of future product releases, Analysts will still bump the number by 30%, and then bump it again (wrong!).

 

In short, anything financial for the next 60 days is already factored has to be factored into Apple's forward looking numbers.   (my guess is that the updated revenue numbers that came late September was because they had a serious non-zero chance that the iPhone 5s or c would not ship (sell) until AFTER october 1, and they gave the 'conservative' number back in July).   Any  'One more Thing' is to piss off competitors and make for customer loyalty

 

Given the number of potentials

iPad(s)

AppleTV

Mavericks

likely iOS 7.1 (turn on keychain sharing)

MacBook Pro

Mac Pro

Mac Mini

iPod Touch

 

There will at least 3 of these not announced during the 60-90 minutes

(I opt that the mac book pros will be on the Store Site Announcement).

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I prefer the regular ipad over the mini if its going to be lighter

 

Same here. Lighter iPad with smaller bezel, sign me up.

post #54 of 130
That is awesome news! Looking forward to upgrade my iPad 3rd Gen along with my mid 2009 MacBook Pro 17". Here's hoping Haswell based rMBP are also being shown at the event.
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No, it's not just him. I get where he's coming from. Just look at the people in the crowd after the 5c was introduced. Look at Al Gore specifically.

You can actually tell when Al Gore doesn't look bored!?
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Completely agree!, yet it's astonishing how many people are taking photos with them...
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Who cares about the incremental iPad updates...it's time for a mature AppleTV to be introduced.

The box I mean, not a real TV...never saw the point in that.

If I'm not going to buy a product, then yeah, they get a little boring, but if you are planning on buying a new product, then it might be a little more interesting.  Incremental?  Well, 32 to 64 bit is a pretty big jump, and if they make other changes as well that might be interesting.  I think they are changing the form factor of the case, which may not be a big deal to some.

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No one has to say, "one more thing" but Jobs was about creating things people didn't even know they needed. These are things that give us a new way of interacting with technology and the world around us. There hasn't been anything like that at Apple since Steve Jobs. It's all mostly been incremental improvements.

the iPad 4 announcement last year didn't count as a surprise?

 

and name me one 'one more thing' that was not incremental?   A cpu upgrade, a new shape for a same function, etc.   Nothing ground breaking, just unexpected amazing value.

 

If anything, a 'one more thing' is where something like a 'mac Pro' is announced, and then they say… 'we could have stopped there… but we had some free cycles, so we came up with this… (and they role out a Mini Mac Pro (haswell based mini but in a small mac pro type of footprint… for $599) those are the cool releases.

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This event is being held BEFORE the quarterly reporting event not AFTER as has been previously done. Could this be the moment Tim follows in Steve's footsteps to pull his very own "One more thing..." event?

People were expecting a 15th announcement. Well, there is a 22nd announcement. Yesterday people were talking about the late quarterly report and what it could mean. One guy presented historical info of announcements being made AFTER late quarterly reports.

A Monday quarterly report could very well lead to a Tuesday or Wednesday "One more thing..." event. IF I were a Wall Street analyst, I would report... "Watch out Microsoft and Nintendo and Sony because the video game market is about to get a new entrant via its hobby device!!!"

it's NOT an announcement.

it IS a rumour of an announcement.
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I don't know. If it was spectacular enough ( and not leaked already) it would be an amazing homage to Steve to do a 'one more thing'. I think he'd approve.

 

The same Steve that said to never do what he would do...no, I doubt he'd approve. 

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Who cares about the incremental iPad updates...it's time for a mature AppleTV to be introduced.

The box I mean, not a real TV...never saw the point in that.

 

Although I do want a lighter iPad with a smaller bezel, I'm really hoping for a new Apple TV announcement. Out of curiosity, what do you want in a new Apple TV? My biggest want is the ability to download apps, although I do wonder if Apple would release an Apple TV with a hard drive again. 

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Is it just me, or are these events getting very, very long in the tooth?

Just one more "One more thing..." would reinvigorate the masses. As it is, these are old, predictable, and outright dull.

 

Hum...

 

Predictable: Not sure too many people saw a 64-bit A7 coming.

Dull: Yet we still don't really understand why it's 64-bit.

Old: Following all those other 64-bit smart phones - of course.

 

Nah, I don't think so. "Can't innovate, my ...".;) 

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Don't care. Where's the new rMBP? Mavericks has gone gold, release them already so I can upgrade.

 

Yeah, I wonder what the hold up is?

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No, it's not just him. I get where he's coming from. Just look at the people in the crowd after the 5c was introduced. Look at Al Gore specifically. They all looked pretty bored.

 

Aside from the Mac Pro, there haven't really been any surprises for a while.

 

No one has to say, "one more thing" but Jobs was about creating things people didn't even know they needed. These are things that give us a new way of interacting with technology and the world around us. There hasn't been anything like that at Apple since Steve Jobs. It's all mostly been incremental improvements.

 

Why does there always need to be a surprise? Is Apple not already doing enough? Its annoying to keep hearing basically that Apple isn't innovating. Yes, this is basically what you're saying. To be honest, the one more thing was pretty lame as time went on. It wasn't always great. Sometimes it was a product that we knew would be announced and he just left it until the end. Thats not a surprise at all. It was just the game being played and people following along. Steve isn't here anymore and Apple is a slightly different company. People need to realize this and understand that it won't be the exact same company Steve built. Thats not necessarily a bad thing...

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Agree 1000% - Mr Cook, the world's former best COO, has absolutely no clue how these "one more thing" moments were valuable for Apple's brand cachet. Now what do we have? Everything that we are told in advance by everyone and their dog...nothing else.

 

If this isn't the biggest bunch of BS, I don't know what is. One more thing wasn't always that great. I think a lot of the time it was just something they held until the very end. Its nothing special, it only was the first couple of times. Toward the end the one more things were pretty lame if you ask me. They weren't special to Apple. It was a Steve thing and nobody will do it except Steve who obviously is no longer here to do it.

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the iPad 4 announcement last year didn't count as a surprise?

 

and name me one 'one more thing' that was not incremental?   A cpu upgrade, a new shape for a same function, etc.   Nothing ground breaking, just unexpected amazing value.

 

If anything, a 'one more thing' is where something like a 'mac Pro' is announced, and then they say… 'we could have stopped there… but we had some free cycles, so we came up with this… (and they role out a Mini Mac Pro (haswell based mini but in a small mac pro type of footprint… for $599) those are the cool releases.

Don't expect a $599 MiniMac Pro.  I'm sure they'll have a new Mac mini with a Haswell chip, but it's not going to be the more expensive chips that are in the iMacs.  not at $599.  Personally, I would like to see a larger, more powerful version of the MacMini, that's essentially the guts of the iMacs, but just in a MacMini (larger, obviously) case for maybe around $1000 to $2500 price points, depending on RAM, Storage, GPU, etc. 

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wow! waiting for the "Yep" from LoopInsight to confirm. Until then treat it with a grain of salt.

Except allthingsd has never been wrong once about their announcement leaks. Never once.

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post #68 of 130
So cool - looking forward to the announcement! I think everyone who wants apple to blow their socks off should lower their expectations. Apple is just a company, not a genie. Nintendo releases a new system ever 5 years. Apple not only releases a new iPad every year, but a product in every category every year as well. And they have very cool upgrades too, like the new super slim iMacs, the finger print sensors, restyled iOS... Upgrades that increase usability without succumbing to feature creep. I personally feel like the pace has slowed a little, but I don't think that's a big issue right now. I think cook is a numbers guy, and after the bad timing of his iMac release he is trying to err on the side of being slower than faster. I don't doubt he's got some cool stuff in the pipeline, he's just more aware of timing in relation to the the manufacturing process. They seem to be headed the right direction, now we just need to wait.
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There better be a Retina mini, otherwise they're wasting our time. Nobody even cares about the regular iPad anymore, it's all about the mini. Give me the Retina mini or give me death!

 

I'm waiting for the new iPad.  iPhone 5S processor and 128GB.  And if it comes in gold, I'm pre-ordering.

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Although I do want a lighter iPad with a smaller bezel, I'm really hoping for a new Apple TV announcement. Out of curiosity, what do you want in a new Apple TV? My biggest want is the ability to download apps, although I do wonder if Apple would release an Apple TV with a hard drive again. 

 

Main things would be apps/controller/open to developers. Cable box pass though so it could really control the TV would be great too.

post #71 of 130
Perhaps rMBP with Thunderbolt2 and a rCinemaDisplay along side a sales date for MacPro?
post #72 of 130
Yup time to swap the ipad2... its pretty slow loading some intense websites.
And if theres a apple TV update... yes that too, I have the old 720p.

Draw the line on the new Mac Pro or processor upgrades on mac bood pro. (I have a retina macbook pro, awsome machine)
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post #73 of 130
I have to agree with the long in the tooth comments. OK, a new iPad, it's not game changing anymore.
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There better be a Retina mini, otherwise they're wasting our time. Nobody even cares about the regular iPad anymore, it's all about the mini. Give me the Retina mini or give me death!

 

Nonsense. I want a full size iPad with an A7 or A7+ 8-)

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iPad 5 with A7X.

 

The fastest SoC available outside of Apple is the Snapdragon 800. It represents the fastest ARM processor you can buy and its only been out for 2 months. Yet Apple has a processor in an iPhone that's just as fast as the SD 800 (which is really more of a tablet SoC that vendors are stuffing into phablets).

 

If there is indeed an A7X then Apple will have the top 2 mobile processors on the planet. And if the A7X offers similar gains to previous generations then it's going to crush the SD 800. That will be something the haters will find unbearable.

 

 

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Is it just me, or are these events getting very, very long in the tooth?

Just one more "One more thing..." would reinvigorate the masses. As it is, these are old, predictable, and outright dull.


New rMBP's would be one (or with MBP's assuming they continue) or four more things (or one or five or six with a new Apple TV and/or Mac Mini separately or with the pro notebooks)... ...though if not major updates, any or all of these may simply be "press released" à la the new iMacs - likely a week or two after this event - line by line or (less likely?) en masse.....

 

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There better be a Retina mini, otherwise they're wasting our time. Nobody even cares about the regular iPad anymore, it's all about the mini. Give me the Retina mini or give me death!

 

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Finally! I'm another "nobody" who wants a full sized iPad for reading academic PDFs and for watching Netflix at the gym. Was hoping for an announcement next week, but I've waited this long ... I can wait a couple weeks more.

 

Hopefully they will ship shortly after the announcement.

 

From the available tea leaves it seems like maybe 40% of iPad buyers are nobodies, +/- 5% or so. That's a good number of millions of nobodies...

 

I still haven't decided on a size personally - and won't until I see the Mac Book Pro line - as I'm due to upgrade my whole computing life with generations newer computers, phones and likely first tablet...  ...lots of options on how to best deploy those dollars to be able to do all the things I want to do where and when I want to do 'em most conveniently and best overall bang for the buck.... ...e.g., MBA + iPad Mini + iPhone 5s for example, or rMBP + iPad Mini LTE + dumb phone.


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Except allthingsd has never been wrong once about their announcement leaks. Never once.

 

As a matter of fact, when Apple wants to know when they have a new product coming out they ask allthingsd.

post #78 of 130
YES!!! Finally! 64GB iPad5 WiFi Cellular (Verizon) in Slate Gray, I have a home for you. I and my wallet have been waiting for you all year. :-)
post #79 of 130
People forget what Apple events were like pre-iPhone. Overlong business updates, tedious demonstrations of iLife and iWork (Jobs would rotate an image and everyone would cheer), incremental Mac and iPod updates. Macs had the same design for years. Many years would pass between OS X updates that had fewer changes than the yearly updates we get now. Every time we thought we were going to get a phone, we got a Boombox or a sock to put our iPod in instead. There were a lot of duds in the Jobs era: fat iPod, buttonless iPod nano, desk lamp iMac. They've gotten way more interesting in recent years. Now we actually get things we want!
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Yep. I would like to see a retina Mini (for out-&-about) and a 13" ipad (home use). You heard it hear first! :)

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