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Sources in Apple's supply chain have reportedly indicated that Apple is on track to release a new iPhone with a larger screen next year, according to one analyst.

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Brian White of Cantor Fitzgerald is on a tour of tech companies in China and Taiwan. Most recently, he visited with a tech supply chain vendor in China, who apparently indicated that a bigger iPhone is in the works.

"Given today's meeting, we are confident that a larger iPhone (approximately five inches) will become a reality in 2014," White said.

As screens on smartphones trend larger, Apple already increased the size of the iPhone display last year, when the iPhone 5 grew from the previous standard of 3.5 inches to a taller 4-inch screen.

White's comments align with those of well-connected analyst Ming-Chi Kuo of KGI Securities, who indicated last month that Apple is likely to launch a new, larger iPhone with a screen size between 4.5 and 5 inches next year. He noted that Apple is less likely to use anything larger than 5 inches due to the company's "unwavering principle of one-hand use."

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So-called big-screen "phablets" have become increasingly popular, with Samsung leading the way in terms of selection. The just-released Galaxy Note III features a 5.7-inch display, while the Galaxy Mega comes close to being a small tablet with a 6.3-inch screen.

White also discussed Apple's rumored "iWatch" on Thursday, and said he spoke with one supplier who suggested the wrist-worn device will be much more than an extension of the iPhone. This person reportedly indicated the device will act as a "multi-purpose gateway" for controlling a connected home.

The supply chain source suggested that a so-called "iWatch" could be used to control heating and cooling, lights, audio and video. An easily accessible device worn on the wrist would allow users to easily control household appliances, without the need to have their phone on them.

White expects that Apple will launch a smart watch accessory before the end of calendar year 2014.
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I'm sure Apple will increase the screen size- and they should- because there is a demand. But I hope 2014 is the first year they offer two sizes (on new phones). A 4" and a 4.x".

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i hope whatever apple does they do not get rid of the current one-handed phone. Want two? Fine. I can understand older folks needing larger screens as the eyes fail.
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Between 4.5" and 5"? I don't think so.

 

Between 4.3" and 4.5"? Sure.

 

Apple will want to offer an elegant phone... not some sort of monster.

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i hope whatever apple does they do not get rid of the current one-handed phone. Want two? Fine. I can understand older folks needing larger screens as the eyes fail.

If they do maybe they can be as clever as Samsung in that regard. /s

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Between 4.5" and 5"? I don't think so.

 

Between 4.3" and 4.5"? Sure.

 

Apple will want to offer an elegant phone... not some sort of monster.

 

A while back some display expert said, Apple would have to do  4.8 in order to make things easier on developers.

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i hope whatever apple does they do not get rid of the current one-handed phone. Want two? Fine. I can understand older folks needing larger screens as the eyes fail.

I'm young-ish (30) and want a larger phone. Eyes are perfect.

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i hope whatever apple does they do not get rid of the current one-handed phone. Want two? Fine.

I can understand older folks needing larger screens as the eyes fail.

I am 47, up to six months ago I didn't want a larger screen., but now I find I may need glasses and would definitely consider a larger screen iPhone say 4.5 or 4.7"
Must be an iPhone though, I would never consider samsung or android!!
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as I use iOS 7 every day for the past weeks a revelation just came to me this morning: all the gestures introduced in iOS 7 are designed with one hand operation for a larger iPhone screen in mind. For example, you no longer need to reach to the up left corner to navigate back, instead you could just swipe anywhere from left to right to go back. Perfect.
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As a New Yorker I see the Samsung crowd falling on people all time because they can't hold on while using their phones on trains and buses. Same thing with umbrella holding- they wobble down the street and look like a mess. Also it doesn't fit right in manorexic skinny jeans. 1biggrin.gif
 
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A while back some display expert said, Apple would have to do  4.8 in order to make things easier on developers.

 

I think Soli figured this out before.

 

Either 4.3 or 4.9.

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as I use iOS 7 every day for the past weeks a revelation just came to me this morning: all the gestures introduced in iOS 7 are designed with one hand operation for a larger iPhone screen in mind. For example, you no longer need to reach to the up left corner to navigate back, instead you could just swipe anywhere from left to right to go back. Perfect.

How does that work in Safari?
 
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I think Soli figured this out before.

Either 4.3 or 4.9.

Not true. You could make it any size without changing resolutions by scaling the pixel dimensions. Or, you could use any multiple of current resolutions (1.5x, for example) at any size you choose by scaling the pixel size to match.
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Again Analysis idiots, they think because Apple make inquiries into suppliers to provide prototype of a display or various sizes does not mean they are going to make into a release product.

This is why all these rumor start they hear Apple is looking at some specific technology and they immediately think it must be a product. Apple has made it clear they look at lots of things before they decide on what path to take forward.

And for those individual who want a large display whether you have a need to have big things in your hands, of you have some deficiency in your body requiring the larger display you have to realize you a small majority of the users out there. Apple has show they are not going to dilute the products line chasing a smaller market segment unless it has some strategic importance to the overall product offering. Remember they are not the Me Too company, we all know who they are.
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If they do maybe they can be as clever as Samsung in that regard. /s
 
 
 
 
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Indeed.

 

Why people keep on bringing this nonsense?

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I'm young-ish (30) and want a larger phone. Eyes are perfect.

 

... and I'm old as dirt, and my eyes are failing... but I still love the 4s.   :)

 

It's all about personal preference... not so much about age.

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Not true. You could make it any size without changing resolutions by scaling the pixel dimensions. Or, you could use any multiple of current resolutions (1.5x, for example) at any size you choose by scaling the pixel size to match.

 

Well, that's great. The idea that Apple would 'have' to make a 4.8-4.9" phone if they made it bigger doesn't sound that appealing to me.

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These stories always amuse me. Do we really think Apple suppliers are going to leak future Apple plans to some Wall Street analyst? Or are these analysts paying off some factory worker to spill the goods?
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Not true. You could make it any size without changing resolutions by scaling the pixel dimensions. Or, you could use any multiple of current resolutions (1.5x, for example) at any size you choose by scaling the pixel size to match.

 

 

I am not an expert by any means, but part of the equation seemed to center around keeping the phone a retina display. If you provide a bigger screen, keep the same resolution, and scale the pixels larger to match the screen, presumably the screen would lose its status as a retina screen. At least that is how sites like Daringfireball were framing the issue. 

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I am 47, up to six months ago I didn't want a larger screen., but now I find I may need glasses and would definitely consider a larger screen iPhone say 4.5 or 4.7"
Must be an iPhone though, I would never consider samsung or android!!

 

Get used to it! Creeping presbyopia says you're going to need those glasses for close vision. On the plus side, once you get used to using them, the problem is taken care of. Ask me how I know... <g>

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I'm young-ish (30) and want a larger phone. Eyes are perfect.

 

Its ok to be an outlier :D

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post #23 of 100

This is more FUD.

Trying to stop people from upgrading to 5S and wait till bigger phone in 2014.

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No creo que sea necesario un iPhone más grande, actualmente tiene el tamaño perfecto para agarrarlo y usarlo con una mano además de qué cabe perfectamente en la bolsa del pantalón. He visto a otros usar sus teléfonos enormes y parece que están hablando con un ladrillo!
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The phablet fans are incapable of accepting that some people like the size and portability of the iPhone. The very idea is weird and wrong to them. They think everyone wants a bigger phone.

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How does that work in Safari?

Backward and forward swiping work in Safari. I did not think to test the capability until you asked the question.

The post you responded to rang a note of larger iPhone with me as well. Since using iOS 7 for a few months now, I have had the sensation that the OS had been designed for use with a larger phone. The sensation mostly hits when I use the Phone app to make a call.

Even though the analysts have gotten their predictions wrong for several years, the might finally be on the precipice of being right! I hope this is the case for one reason only though... The analysts can move on to something else!!

iPhones having 3.5-, 4.0-, 4.5- and 5.0-inch display sizes would provide Apple the opportunity to support a wide range of size and price ranges on the market. The funniest thing about the larger iPhones is Apple just might cross the 50% market point in the USA to make iOS the largest smartphone platform.

On another note, nobody is talking about Sharp's recent announcement of 32-inch 4K displays! Since the Mac Pro's release date is approaching and that beast of a computer can drive three 4K displays simultaneously, I am excited to see what Apple has coming up. My one year old 27-inch iMac migh be getting a sibling this Christmas. 🎄🎅
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No creo que sea necesario un iPhone más grande, actualmente tiene el tamaño perfecto para agarrarlo y usarlo con una mano además de qué cabe perfectamente en la bolsa del pantalón. He visto a otros usar sus teléfonos enormes y parece que están hablando con un ladrillo!

 

Is that a brick in your pocket or are you just happy to see me...  :D
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The phablet fans are incapable of accepting that some people like the size and portability of the iPhone. The very idea is weird and wrong to them. They think everyone wants a bigger phone.

This is certainly a problem, you would think Apples strong sales would educate these people to the real market trends. The reality is not many if those large phones are actually being sold, so this isn't a pressing issue for Apple.

Having said that Apples desire to have one size iPhone/iPad screen is foolish in mind. Physical size is important and frankly I'd rather see Apple shrink the iPhone a bit, ideally keeping screen size. I'd like to see the current iPhones shorten by a half inch or so. I'm an old fart so the vision issue gets taken care of by an iPad for anything other than basic use. A bigger phone isn't a bad idea as it would lead to a well rounded lineup. However anybody thinking that a 5" cell phone will be a run away success is off their rocker.
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I love huge screens.  I rarely see the main reason for my preferred screen size, and maybe Apple could market it as (one of) their decisions to go large:

 

I can fit a book page on my screen and read it comfortably.   Without having to pinch and zoom.

 

I never could do that with my smaller screened phones and it makes a big difference.

 

I stopped carrying my iPad with me on flights because the phone does the job.

 

Monster screens definitely are not for everyone so obviously Apple would have to make it a separate line from the smaller iPhones.  I'd love to see an Apple offering in the segment though.  Hopefully with an option for something other than the GOI interface.

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This is certainly a problem, you would think Apples strong sales would educate these people to the real market trends. The reality is not many if those large phones are actually being sold, so this isn't a pressing issue for Apple.

Having said that Apples desire to have one size iPhone/iPad screen is foolish in mind. Physical size is important and frankly I'd rather see Apple shrink the iPhone a bit, ideally keeping screen size. I'd like to see the current iPhones shorten by a half inch or so. I'm an old fart so the vision issue gets taken care of by an iPad for anything other than basic use. A bigger phone isn't a bad idea as it would lead to a well rounded lineup. However anybody thinking that a 5" cell phone will be a run away success is off their rocker.

 

I think it is really hard to predict how a 4.5" iPhone would be received.

 

In the Chinese market it might be a huge success. Hell, it might even be a huge success in the U.S.

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An for those individual who want a large display whether you have a need to have big things in your hands, of you have some deficiency in your body requiring the larger display you have to realize you a small majority of the users out there.

 

So because we want a larger iPhone it means we have a small Penis?  We're compensating?  So someone who picks a 27" vs a 21.5" iMac also has a small penis?  Or someone who picks a 13" MBA over an 11" MBA, or a 15" rMBP over a 13" rMBP, or a 9.7" iPad over a 7.85" iPad?   They all, also have small penises and are compensating?

 

I hope they keep the 4" iPhone.  But here's a surprising element that you might not be able to wrap your head around.  Some people like 4" phones.  Some want bigger.  And some wish it would have stayed 3.5"- maybe even smaller.  So adding another size goes in line with every single one of their other product lines.

 

For example- the HTC One (ignore the fact it runs crap android)- has a fantastic front build.  I think better than the iPhone because of how thin the top and bottom bezel is.  It's, obviously, larger than the iPhone- a hair too big for my taste, but something in between would be great.  Even taking the existing size of the iPhone and getting similar-sized bezels would increase the screen size immensely.

 

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Take your "small penis" talk out of here.  This forum is, at minimum, for slightly intelligent people.


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If they do maybe they can be as clever as Samsung in that regard. /s

Yeah right, he still used both hands, and when he tried to use one hand it didn't work because his thumb didn't have enough move.

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It's all about personal preference... not so much about age.

That was my point.  ;)

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i hope whatever apple does they do not get rid of the current one-handed phone. Want two? Fine. I can understand older folks needing larger screens as the eyes fail.

 

I would say there is zero danger of that.  Apple wouldn't alienate their core base like that.  *If* they choose to go larger I believe it would be a separate model and the real question is do they just go larger or go for an iPhab.  I for one would love to see an iPhab but realize my tastes aren't necessarily mainstream in that regard.

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That was my point.  ;)

 

Oh, I know... I just didn't indicate that as well as I should have.

 

I'm old... and, apparently, I have a low IQ.


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iPhones having 3.5-, 4.0-, 4.5- and 5.0-inch display sizes would provide Apple the opportunity to support a wide range of size and price ranges on the market. The funniest thing about the larger iPhones is Apple just might cross the 50% market point in the USA to make iOS the largest smartphone platform.

3.5" is dead, my friend. The 4" will continue to exist (thankfully). I believe Apple will release a complementary 4.5"-ish iPhone. No larger than 5" and only one in the 4+" range. That won't be for me but I do see a market for it.
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Backward and forward swiping work in Safari. I did not think to test the capability until you asked the question.
That behavior actually bothers me a bit. I'm also finding that Safari doesn't handle user input as well as it did in iOS 6. Too many actions get interpreted the wrong way. For example attempts to scroll a view sometimes translate into link selections. Sometimes when no link is near by. I'm noticing a hyper sensitivity in other apps too, this all on my iPad. I suspect Apple has something screwed up at a low level with iOS 7 as the touch screen just isn't accurate at all anymore I even get spurious key presses from the keyboard.
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The post you responded to rang a note of larger iPhone with me as well. Since using iOS 7 for a few months now, I have had the sensation that the OS had been designed for use with a larger phone. The sensation mostly hits when I use the Phone app to make a call.
Huh? What is so different about making a call?
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Even though the analysts have gotten their predictions wrong for several years, the might finally be on the precipice of being right! I hope this is the case for one reason only though... The analysts can move on to something else!!
They could move on to digging ditches.
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iPhones having 3.5-, 4.0-, 4.5- and 5.0-inch display sizes would provide Apple the opportunity to support a wide range of size and price ranges on the market. The funniest thing about the larger iPhones is Apple just might cross the 50% market point in the USA to make iOS the largest smartphone platform.
Or a larger iPhone could flop. They trend to larger cell phones could cool off by the time Apple gets there. More than a few people have indicated that their larger device was a mistake and have expressed the intentions to buy smaller the next time around.
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On another note, nobody is talking about Sharp's recent announcement of 32-inch 4K displays! Since the Mac Pro's release date is approaching and that beast of a computer can drive three 4K displays simultaneously, I am excited to see what Apple has coming up. My one year old 27-inch iMac migh be getting a sibling this Christmas. 🎄🎅

Probably because nobody can afford such. It is pretty much why I don't talk about the next Rolls Royce. Apple could very well lead the way in lowering the costs of these panels though. Apple being the only vendor that has the volume potential to get the low prices.
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waiting for larger screen

Does anyone who critiques larger screen iPhone ever used phablets?
I'm not hide — i'm an Apple fan, but once i've tryed Samsung Note for an hour, i realized my next iPhone will have at least 5 inch screen.

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3.5" is dead, my friend. The 4" will continue to exist (thankfully). I believe Apple will release a complementary 4.5"-ish iPhone. No larger than 5" and only one in the 4+" range. That won't be for me but I do see a market for it.

 

3.5" is dead?

 

Isn't Apple still selling the 4s.

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Just GIVE UP.

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