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"Apple expected to offer more affordable 'budget' iMac next year"

 

Now, where have I heard that before?

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"Apple expected to offer more affordable 'budget' iMac next year"

 

Now, where have I heard that before?

 

I'm not sure...where have you heard this before?

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Originally Posted by Eriamjh View Post
 

But apple doesn't cater to the low end...

 

eMac?

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Originally Posted by Mac_128 View Post

Let me guess, to lower the price, Apple will replace the aluminum case of the iMac with 5 colored plastic options with last years internals ...

 

Considering how good those internals are today, and how well they would accommodate the needs of the classroom, why not? If they can do it for $300 ~ 400 less, even better. The original multi-color iMac reborn!

 

Aside from education, there are a lot of people who are literally stuck with Windows (due to affordability) who would love nothing more than to work with OS X. I know two people who bought Minis, and use them plugged into their TVs. It isn't optimal. An all-in-one Mac in the $800 ~ $1,000 range would be a winner… certainly for schools, but also for lower-income folks who are currently stuck screaming profanities at the nightmare known as Windows 8...

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Originally Posted by ascii View Post
 

It's true, making budget products hasn't worked out for Apple in the past. There's a difference between designing a product you would want to use, and *then* using all your skill to manufacture it as cheaply as possible, vs. trying to design a cheap product to begin with. The former usually works out a lot better!

 

I personally think the iMac is very reasonably priced as is, especially the lower end one. If people still can't afford that, then get an iPad. Better to have an awesome tablet than a crappy PC...

 

Exactly - and that is why the vocal residents around here are unable to understand that the SUCCESSFUL Apple has always been driven by design and NOT by profit - cheap production/excellent supply-chain control were always consequential to a priority to make great devices (and this principle applied to pretty much EVERYTHING, including the cheap iPod Shuffle) - until Cook stopped being a COO, that is...now all we hear is "budget" this and "cheaper" that.

 

The always-insulting TS insists that the 5C is not a failure - of course "not", until you see how soon its prices are being cut (never happened in Apple's recent history) and how crowded its related inventories are...NO ONE cares about it, and emerging markets (including the impoverished US, by the way) will NOT benefit from its lower price, because there is no "lower price" to begin with.

 

Alas, the crystal is broken now; and SJ is no longer around to return and perform a much-necessary clean-up again. 

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Why don't you try to respond with arguments instead of insults?

 

maybe he was feeling truly inspired…? :)

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1 - It has, no matter how much you try to spin it otherwise;

 

2 - It is the worst kind of budget, in fact - with a clear goal of reaching "emerging markets" even though it is as expensive as the iPhone 5 for them;

 

3 - I did - if you can't see it that's a different matter.

 

1. You alone say -- with absolute confidence and certainty -- that the 5c has "failed". Do you know Apple's internal strategy? Its sales numbers for the new handset? Whether or not the device is meeting Apple's expectations? No you do not. Maintaining good stock on them doesn't equate to failure. Assumption is not the same as fact. Get that?

 

2. It's the 'second-tier' model. No different price or position than last year's second-tier model. Instead of continuing the iPhone 5 unchanged, they differentiated it from the top-tier model (and lowered costs) by changing the casing. Introduced something new and fun to the model line. You haven't touched one, obviously. They are neither "budget" nor "cheap" construction.

 

3. Yours isn't an argument, it's "contrariness". If you can't see it, that's a different matter.

 

post #88 of 198

You guys are forgetting this is just another analyst's rumor, and you're arguing over a hypothetical product.

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Originally Posted by Andysol View Post

The only tablets that sell well are the ones with DVD drives though.

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Yep. We keep hearing how tablets are killing the PC but yet Apple is somehow doomed because they're phasing out DVD drives from their products. Which tablet again ships with a DVD drive? And no I'm not talking about convertible Ultrabooks that have a touch screen.
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Why Apple 'slimmed down' a big honking desktop machine that NO ONE looks at from the side is beyond me. I can understand removing the CD/DVD drive from the portables, but it's a frickin' imac and people still need to read CD/DVDs, especially on these desktop models.
Apple's tendency towards crippling the specs of their machines over form factor isn't always a desirable thing and although I have a 2 year old imac, I can say right now that I won't be upgrading to another iMac. If I wanted laptop components and laptop specs, I'd buy a laptop, stop skimping on the power, some of us need it!

 

They aren't skimping on power at all! I have a 27" 4-core i7 iMac running at 2.8Ghz, 8GB of RAM, a Terabyte drive internal, a small 4TB raid array external.… it runs all my "power user software" just fine! (Creative Suite, Final Cut Pro, Logic Pro, Ableton Live, plugins galore.) A few 3D games too, quite handily (World of Warcraft, Homeworld 2). 

 

Oh, but... did I mention I bought mine in early 2010?

 

The CPU/GPU and other internals have only gotten faster and much more powerful and efficient since then. For the same or even lower price than I paid for mine! 

 

You say they are skimping on performance because they dropped the internal optical drive? Buy an external drive! Use it when you need it. I've used mine all of four times this year. Didn't really NEED to either. My next iMac can be without the drive, and that'll be fine. I'll just buy one if/when the need arises again, which is likely to be never.

 

Change is hard, I know. I've been moving with this modernization tide for over a decade now, and it can be rough sometimes. It's well worth it though. I have freed myself from the bondage of technology. It's smoothly integrated into my daily life now, and I have tons of free time as a result. Thanks to Apple for that!  Managing optical discs is just one less thing I worry about. Seriously!

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Wow, a lot of big, brave words about the "failure" of the 5C only days before earnings are announced.

 

I am preparing a nice crow pie.  It will be served after Apple announces record iPhone sales, and some simple math concludes that at the very least, the 5C is a solid product performing well above last year's 4S at this time.

 

My only question will be, would the 5C bashers prefer to eat their crow pie hot, or cold?  Your call.

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Originally Posted by brlawyer View Post

Exactly - and that is why the vocal yet benighted residents around here are unable to understand that the SUCCESSFUL Apple has always been driven by design and NOT by profit - cheap production/excellent supply-chain control were always consequential to a priority to make great devices (and this principle applied to pretty much EVERYTHING, including the cheap iPod Shuffle) - until Cook stopped being a COO, that is...now all we hear is "budget" this and "cheaper" that. 

The always-insulting 28,568-post idiot up there (as if number of posts meant anything, of course) insists that the 5C is not a failure - of course "not", until you see how soon its prices are being cut (never happened in Apple's recent history) and how crowded its related inventories are...NO ONE cares about it, and emerging markets (including the impoverished US, by the way) will NOT benefit from its lower price, because there is no "lower price" to begin with.

Alas, the crystal is broken now; and SJ is no longer around to return and perform a much-necessary clean-up again. 

Not sure if you're just being obtuse or what, but which Apple executives have been throwing around words like "budget" and "cheaper"? NONE of them have. It's the same Wall Street analyst and tech press nonsense we've always heard about Apple. Actually it's you throwing around stuff as if its fact when its clearly just your opinion.

And how convenient that Steve Jobs died just as the iphone was really taking off sales wise. It allows the clueless to claim Steve didn't care about making money, when that's absolutely not the case.

As far as retailers discounting the 5C, so what? Apple sells their products at Walmart so the idea that it tarnishes the Apple brand to have one of their products discounted is just pretentious bullshit. Perhaps Apple designed and priced the 5C to allow for retailer discounting. And when one does it others will follow suit because they all want the sale.
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Originally Posted by 512ke View Post
 

Wow, a lot of big, brave words about the "failure" of the 5C only days before earnings are announced.

 

I am preparing a nice crow pie.  It will be served after Apple announces record iPhone sales, and some simple math concludes that at the very least, the 5C is a solid product performing well above last year's 4S at this time.

 

My only question will be, would the 5C bashers prefer to eat their crow pie hot, or cold?  Your call.

 

They'll all slink away back into their Android holes and hide when the facts and hard numbers are announced.

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Originally Posted by alienzed View Post
Why Apple 'slimmed down' a big honking desktop machine that NO ONE looks at from the side is beyond me.

 

Oh! Here, I’ll help you catch up to it.

 

See the angle of the curve of the iMac’s casing? Notice it’s about, oh… 5-10*? Sounds a little like a keyboard. Dunnit? It does. And what do we put on a keyboard? Our hands, yes? Strange, then, that the iMac’s shape would lend itself to a keyboard aesthetic. Unless… we’re meant to touch our iMacs.

 

But that’s silly. Bringing the iMac down to a keyboard’s angle to touch the screen? An iPad, sure, because it has great glass covering the screen to touch, but not the…

 

Well. Look at this. The iMac has had glass covering its screen since 2007.

 

And I said this EXACT thing six years ago. Apple is taking desktop computers multitouch. They’ve been working at it for years now, both in hardware and software. And it’s coming to fruition soon.

 

The iMac has gotten thinner. And thinner. And glass over the screen. And thinner. And now it’s thin enough to SET STRAIGHT ON A DESK and we’ll touch the darn thing. But lo, the software. It’s still cursor-based, right? Wrong! Wait, no, right… you’re right. 

 

BUT. Look at it. Every new OS X release brings us a step closer to multitouch. Every new release makes icons larger, finger-size, makes the UI more touch-friendly. And the day will come that we’ll be begging Apple to let us touch OS X. And that day will be followed by OS XI, a UI and UX designed to be touched. No more mouse, but desktop software-level depth and interaction.

 

*THE DEGREE SYMBOL, WHICH WAS TYPEABLE NOT TWO WEEKS AGO, HAS NOW BEEN OVERRIDDEN AGAIN BY HUDDLER’S STUPID CUSTOM COMMANDS. COME ON.

 
…people still need to read CD/DVDs, especially on these desktop models.

 

[who?][citation needed]

 
If I wanted laptop components and laptop specs, I’d buy a laptop

 

So buy an iMac. You’ll get desktop components and desktop specs.

 
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eMac?

 

Education is “low end”? Aww. :( 

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There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already f*ed.

 

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Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post
 
You can even get blu-ray drives for less than $100. Plug it in when you need to use it, unplug it and store it away when you don't.

AFAIK you can only author Blu-ray on a Mac through Compressor app or through Toast Titanium, but playing Blu-ray movies  is only possible through virtualization or Windows in bootcamp, etc. Please update with links if this is no longer the case.

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Originally Posted by mstone View Post
AFAIK you can only author Blu-ray on a Mac through Compressor app or through Toast Titanium, but playing Blu-ray movies  is only possible through virtualization such as Windows in bootcamp, etc. Please update with links if this is no longer the case.

 

I remember there being Blu-ray playback software released for OS X a few years ago, at this point.

 

As to authorship, doesn’t FCPX do it now? DVD Studio Pro does, but that’s discontinued.

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There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already f*ed.

 

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And this is the part where the resident troll conveniently disappears in the hope everyone will forget his wannabe-know-it-all predictions in the next few days.  Which of course, we will not. 

brlawyer is a broken record of Anti-Apple doooom™.
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AFAIK you can only author Blu-ray on a Mac through Compressor app or through Toast Titanium, but playing Blu-ray movies  is only possible through virtualization or Windows in bootcamp, etc. Please update with links if this is no longer the case.

I haven't tried them, but there are a handful, I think.

Here are two:
http://www.macblurayplayer.com/
http://www.bluray-player-software.com/
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AFAIK you can only author Blu-ray on a Mac through Compressor app or through Toast Titanium, but playing Blu-ray movies  is only possible through virtualization or Windows in bootcamp, etc. Please update with links if this is no longer the case.
I think you're right. I guess my point was optical drives are super cheap these days so if someone really needs one they're cheap to buy an easy to use.
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I remember there being Blu-ray playback software released for OS X a few years ago, at this point.

 

As to authorship, doesn’t FCPX do it now? DVD Studio Pro does, but that’s discontinued.

 

An Adobe Premiere Pro CS and CC includes Blu-Ray authoring and support for Mac Blu-Ray hardware.

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post
 

[who?][citation needed]

 

 

I burn DVD discs on occasion from my MacBook Air.

Anyone who wants to burn CDs or DVDs can still do it on any Mac. It's a complete non-issue. More FUD from people who don't have a clue about how Apple products work.

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Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post

An Adobe Premiere Pro CS and CC includes Blu-Ray authoring and support for Mac Blu-Ray hardware.

 

Right! Thanks.

 

Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post

I burn DVD discs on occasion from my MacBook Air. Anyone who wants to burn CDs or DVDs can still do it on any Mac.

 

Here’s what I think about discs at this point (let’s call it my opinion 2010-present): If you really need to do it, plug a SuperDrive into an AirPort Extreme/Time Capsule and burn/rip from/to any Mac in your house. Simple!

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There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already f*ed.

 

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post #103 of 198

Unless the price is $599 or less it won't really seem like a budget machine to most people in PC land. Like I said in a different thread, the Mac Mini base model should be priced around $349 as is. Adding a keyboard, mouse, and monitor would put it around $599 in a package deal. Units with similar features from HP cost that much. They have an all in one for $529.99.

 

Making the cases out of stamped steel or plastic instead of blocks of aluminum would be more efficient. Just because they do that for a low end model doesn't mean they must do it for their expensive models. It won't dilute the brand. It will expand it.

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$349 would garner probably a Pentium mini. I think maybe $499 is as low as they might be willing to go.
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$349 would garner probably a Pentium mini. I think maybe $499 is as low as they might be willing to go.

Hypothetically speaking(Because we have pretty good reason to believe such a thing will not happen, damn analysts).

 

i3's are pretty cheap and are a decently popular choice for average computing and HTPC duties. A little under, around, or over $100.  $450-ish or a little lower could probably act as a sort of safety net.

 

Again, Hypothetically.

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Hypothetically speaking(Because we have pretty good reason to believe such a thing will not happen, damn analysts).

i3's are pretty cheap and are a decently popular choice for average computing and HTPC duties. A little under, around, or over $100.  $450-ish or a little lower could probably act as a sort of safety net.

Again, Hypothetically.

Makes sense. Me, I don't want an i3. I know I don't even push my mini to the limits as is, for longevity sake I am looking at i7 only either dual or quad but possibly quad. I'm not sure what the future of the mini is after this year. I would love for Apple to keep making it but obviously with sales in a slump, who knows what will happen. Much like they did with the rMBP during the NBA finals, I would love a commercial during a football or baseball game.

"Introducing the all new Mac mini with flash storage and fits right in the corner of your desk starting at just $499."
post #107 of 198
Competing with Windows computers on price is not the way to go. You'll end up with a computer that's built poorly, like the other computers in that price bracket.

I've bought Windows machines, but it's almost exclusively from the business lines. The two times I've bought the consumer lines, I've deeply regretted, and I still haven't found any of them worth buying.
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Yea, never meant to come off insinuating that they should or such. I myself see zero reason for them to do so.

Why I emphasized hypothetically with the little note :3

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Why don’t idiots understand what the Mac Mini is? Is it the shape that throws them off? 

Realistically it isn't a budget model.
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The problem with the iMac has nothing to do with price, they could sell the thing for a dollar and I wouldn't buy the machine. Apple apparently configured the machine for some idealized virtual customer that they feel is an idiot with limited needs and a compromised understanding of technology. Apple can try to spur sales with a lower cost model but if it is no more desirable than the current machines I don't think they will bag that many more gullible people than they do now.

The next iMac needs the input of a real user, a real engineer and a real repair technician. As it is now, iMac lets each of these people down.
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You just gonna ignore my rebuttal where you were proved completely wrong?

Again- when att, sprint, and the other phone providers released that the 5c is the 2nd best selling phone they have- 2nd to the 5s only- how is that a failure? 1st and 2nd place is failing? HTC is begging to "fail" like apple.

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The problem with the iMac has nothing to do with price, they could sell the thing for a dollar and I wouldn't buy the machine. Apple apparently configured the machine for some idealized virtual customer that they feel is an idiot with limited needs and a compromised understanding of technology. Apple can try to spur sales with a lower cost model but if it is no more desirable than the current machines I don't think they will bag that many more gullible people than they do now.

The next iMac needs the input of a real user, a real engineer and a real repair technician. As it is now, iMac lets each of these people down.

$1? Idiotic comment...

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Where did you get your time machine because you are living in the past. There is NO market for the device you "built." Why does the poser geek crowd think they are the majority?

On the contrary there is a sizable market for such machines. Apple may or may not give us an alternative in the new MacPro but that tune has yet to be played. The fact is people often need capabilities beyond what Apple builds into their all in one machines. Yes technology is changing and the Mac Pro might be a better solution but the Mac Pro isn't the right solution for everybody.
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Competing with Windows computers on price is not the way to go. You'll end up with a computer that's built poorly, like the other computers in that price bracket.
This is a lot of BS, it would be easy for Apple to deliver a cheaper laptop and maintain quality. Quality gets engineered in.
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I've bought Windows machines, but it's almost exclusively from the business lines. The two times I've bought the consumer lines, I've deeply regretted, and I still haven't found any of them worth buying.

And how much did those Windows machines cost? Remember until iPad most tablets weren't worth buying.
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$1? Idiotic comment...

What is idiotic is buying a desktop machine that is glued together and isn't serviceable at all without un gluing it. Especially when the serviceable items have no external access at all.
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Originally Posted by JeffDM View Post

Competing with Windows computers on price is not the way to go. You'll end up with a computer that's built poorly, like the other computers in that price bracket.

I've bought Windows machines, but it's almost exclusively from the business lines. The two times I've bought the consumer lines, I've deeply regretted, and I still haven't found any of them worth buying.


My 2009 HP that came with Vista arrived with a defect in the board. I got a free replacement. I didn't have to pay for any of the shipping charges. The hardware has worked flawlessly ever since then. Vista was garbage. After the warranty period I dual booted it. Eventually Vista just stopped working and I wiped the drive and put different GNU/Linux distributions on it until I settled on just one. It is a great machine that cost under $350 with several card readers, six USB ports, and a DVD drive. Of course it is much bigger than a Mini or an iMac but everything is accessable and I can add more drives and other peripherals if I want them. I might even swap the motherboard and buy a newer faster chip set for less than $200. My OS is always up to date with the latest and greatest versions of programs. It is more intuitive than OS X and is even faster than my Mac Book with the superior processor.

 

Don't slam the other manufacturers so hard. Sure their quality isn't always the best but millions of people have computers that give them no problems at all. I owned a Gateway for six years before a fan on a power supply failed. It couldn't easily be replaced because it was a proprietary size built-in with the power supply. It didn't matter because I wanted to buy my first Apple machine at that time. It was just time to let it go.

 

My Mac Book battery expanded due to a known defect. Apple refused to replace it until they got a report from the Consumer Product Safety Commission that I had filed about it. Then Apple sent me to a repair facility where it was photographed. A week later I had a new battery. It worked for a while but died within six months. It wouldn't take a charge. Apples customer service just didn't give me great service after the sale.

 

I'm not the typical average computer user so my experience is not in the middle of the bell curve. Still my opinion probably would have counted in the Apple universe fifteen years ago when Apple catered to the outliers. Now my wants and the wants of many posting here just don't seem to count toward the bottom line anymore. Building my own desktop with the features I want is seeming like the way to go these days. I've never done it but I'm willing to try. Perhaps others here should consider it too. It's looking like I'll buy the Acer C720 to be my next laptop. SSD, USB 3, HDMI, SD card reader, 1366 X 768 screen resolution, all for $249 with a three year warranty.

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Budget iMac coming soon, right after Apple releases the budget iPhone....
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Originally Posted by wizard69 View Post
Realistically it isn't a budget model.

 

I can certainly see where you’re coming from with that, but it is Apple’s budget model. It’s not Apple’s fault if you’ve not the budget for it, is all.

 

Again, “Only a rich person can afford cheap windows.” Except in this instance, the ‘W’ is capitalized! :lol: 

Originally Posted by Slurpy

There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already f*ed.

 

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Originally Posted by brlawyer View Post


Why don't you try to respond with arguments instead of insults?

 

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This is a lot of BS, it would be easy for Apple to deliver a cheaper laptop and maintain quality. Quality gets engineered in.

Apparently these Windows competitors aren't "engineering that quality in", unless you buy the business lines. I haven't seen a consumer Windows computer I was happy with, structurally.

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And how much did those Windows machines cost?

One was $400, the other was $900.
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Remember until iPad most tablets weren't worth buying.

That's quite a leap, what's the connection? Most tablets were using a desktop/notebook OS and hardware that wasn't well-adapted for that use.
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