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Apple's upcoming iPad hardware refresh is widely believed to bring a thinner overall form factor with narrower bezels and an iPad mini-like cross-section for the fifth-generation tablet, leading Cupertino to introduce a new version of the popular iPad Smart Cover, according to one analyst.

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A purported iPad 5 rear shell featuring an iPad mini-like design | Source: Sonny Dickson


A Monday research note from Cantor Fitzgerald's Brian J. White says that based on conversations with Chinese and Taiwanese suppliers, the firm expects Apple's next full-sized iPad to be between one-half and three-quarters of an inch narrower than its predecessors, figures that line up with schematics provided to AppleInsider last month. White noted that several vendors at trade shows the firm attended over the weekend were selling iPad cases and covers matching the new dimensions.

"Given this change in size, we believe this will provide Apple with an excuse to unveil a new Smart Cover and drive an upgrade cycle for this line of cases (also an upgrade cycle for non-Apple branded iPad cases), which we believe is an attractive margin product for Apple," White said. "Essentially, if you own a case for prior versions of the iPad, you will need to buy a new case for the iPad 5."

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Very little is known about the new iPad's matching Smart Covers, but given that Apple's next tablet is rumored to feature the same edge geometry as the company's iPad mini, it is possible that the covers will mimic the all-fabric design of their smaller counterparts. Previous rumors have pointed to a narrower variant of the existing full-size iPad design, but the rumored change to the body shape of the iPad 5 --?combined with the current generation Smart Cover's propensity to scratch the side of the iPad where it is attached --?make that an unlikely choice.

White's research also suggests that the iPad 5 will be available in the same three colors as the iPhone 5s --?silver, gold, and space gray --?and the firm expects the new form factor to entice customers holding on to older iPads to upgrade.

"Given that Apple did little in the way of changing the look and feel of the past couple of iPad iterations, we believe Apple's sizable installed base is ready to purchase a new full-sized iPad," White writes.

That hypothesis is borne out by data from popular trade-in service Gazelle, who said last week that iPad trade-in activity spiked 86 percent week-over-week and 269 percent year-over-year after a report that Apple would hold an iPad-focused special event on Oct. 22. Gazelle reported similar increases for older iPhones leading up to the launch of the iPhone 5s and 5c, which went on to sell a record nine million units on launch weekend.
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STOP USING THE WORD FORM FACTOR WHEN YOU MEAN DESIGN. IT HAS A THINNER DESIGN. Form factor is a made up garbage description that doesn't mean anything. At all. Design. Say what you mean instead of trying to "sound smart". Trust me, everyone will know what you mean by thinner "design". I promise.

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STOP USING THE WORD FORM FACTOR WHEN YOU MEAN DESIGN. IT HAS A THINNER DESIGN. Form factor is a made up garbage description that doesn't mean anything. At all. Design. Say what you mean instead of trying to "sound smart". Trust me, everyone will know what you mean by thinner "design". I promise.

'Form factor' is completely fine in this context. It's incorrect to say it doesn't mean anything at all. Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_form_factor

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STOP USING THE WORD FORM FACTOR WHEN YOU MEAN DESIGN. IT HAS A THINNER DESIGN. Form factor is a made up garbage description that doesn't mean anything. At all. Design. Say what you mean instead of trying to "sound smart". Trust me, everyone will know what you mean by thinner "design". I promise.


 



I for one have my credit card ready for the new FORM FACTOR ipad.
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'Form factor' is completely fine in this context. It's incorrect to say it doesn't mean anything at all. Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_form_factor

 



Or here-

http://oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/form-factor



noun
a mathematical factor that compensates for irregularity in the shape of an object, usually the ratio between its volume and that of a regular object of the same breadth and height. •the physical size and shape of a piece of computer hardware.
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post #6 of 40

this is shocking. i thought they were going to use the same smart cover.

/s

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STOP USING THE WORD FORM FACTOR WHEN YOU MEAN DESIGN. IT HAS A THINNER DESIGN. Form factor is a made up garbage description that doesn't mean anything. At all. Design. Say what you mean instead of trying to "sound smart". Trust me, everyone will know what you mean by thinner "design". I promise.

Thanks for clearing that up. I didn't think they'd be referring to a pizza box:


Form factor
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Look up form factor or form factor in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.
The term form factor may refer to:

In physical sciences:
In scattering theory:
Form factor (quantum field theory), a semi-empirical formula used in effective quantum field theories;
Electric form factor, the Fourier transform of electric charge distribution in space;
Magnetic form factor, the Fourier transform of an electric current distribution in space;
Atomic form factor, or atomic scattering factor, a measure of the amplitude of a wave scattered from an isolated atom.
Form factor (radiative transfer) or emissivity, the proportion of energy transmitted by that object which can be transferred to another object;
Form factor (electronics), characterizing the functional form of oscillating signals.
In evaluating shapes of objects
In forest inventory, a factor in timber metrics referring to the tree shape.
The design and geometry of a product, especially in industrial and engineering design, including:
Computer form factor, the industry-standard physical dimensions of the major components of computers
Hard disk drive form factor, the physical dimensions of a computer hard drive
Hard disk enclosure form factor, the physical dimensions of a computer hard drive enclosure
Mobile phone form factor, the fundamental design of a mobile phone
Small form factor, a system smaller than a traditional mini-tower, such as a book-sized PC or a miniature Home Theater PC (HTPC)
Pizza box form factor, a style of case, usually wide and flat, for computers or network switches
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post #8 of 40
What? No Keyboard? No kickstand?

It will be a shame if space grey only has a black front as I like a white front but don't like the silver and find the gold ostentatious.
 
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this is shocking. i thought they were going to use the same smart cover.

/s

 

Yes, I miss real IT news ... 

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STOP USING THE WORD FORM FACTOR WHEN YOU MEAN DESIGN. IT HAS A THINNER DESIGN. Form factor is a made up garbage description that doesn't mean anything. At all. Design. Say what you mean instead of trying to "sound smart". Trust me, everyone will know what you mean by thinner "design". I promise.

 

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Blah blah blah. It means design. I don't give two craps what wikipedia says. Why don't you write a white paper about it. Or purple paper. Check the calculus and make sure the optics are right. Buzzwords are killing the english language. But you're right, if you read it on the internet (wikipedia) it must be so. 

 

Put that in your form factor! 

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All you guys are actually responding to a poster with dingbat in his user name. lol.gif
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post #13 of 40
I'm not sure if a gold iPad will be released... They were scarce for the iPhone release which may mean the colour is more difficult to produce.
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No kickstand?

The iPad stands on its own. But the Surface needs all the support it can get.
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"Form factor is a made up garbage description that doesn't mean anything. At all"

"Blah blah blah. It means design."

It means nothing...no wait...it means design.

We'll give you one more go 1smile.gif
post #16 of 40
I hope it works better than the mini SmartCover, which collapses and detaches half a dozen times every time I use it. Gave up on it. Worst Apple product ever.
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All you guys are actually responding to a poster with dingbat in his user name. lol.gif

:lol::lol::lol:

post #18 of 40
This was already leaked.
 
post #19 of 40
I hope it's better quality this time around. The original Smart Cover felt nice and didn't seem to wear as easily but this last seems to flimsy and they replaced the inside microfiber with something that feels cheap. The leather also didn't seem as nice. I hope their foray into nice eather cases is a sign of good things to come.

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STOP USING THE WORD FORM FACTOR WHEN YOU MEAN DESIGN. IT HAS A THINNER DESIGN. Form factor is a made up garbage description that doesn't mean anything. At all. Design. Say what you mean instead of trying to "sound smart". Trust me, everyone will know what you mean by thinner "design". I promise.

1) For a term you claim "is made up garbage" it's in every worthwhile dictionary entry that has existed long before you were born and is quite common in computing. Here is one single relevant definiton for a term you claim 'is made up garbage": physical size and shape of a piece of computer hardware.

2) Do you really not realize that there are multiple words and terms have have the same or similar definitions just as the same word or term can have multiple definitions? Personally, I think design is way too simplistic a term to use as it's physical, man-made object so even if it kept the exact same dimensions the design could still be wildly different yet your usage doesn't allow for that. If you don't realize that for them to choose a different form is part of design then there really isn't anyone can say to you about basic English or logic that will likely help you work out your lack of comprehension with the most rudimentary of things.


PS: You might want to try to "sound smart" every once in a while. Give a try sometime. I beg you! We all beg you.
post #20 of 40
I love my Smart Case on my iPad 3, hoping they make a Smart Case for the mini. Not interested in the Smart Cover at all...
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"Essentially, if you own a case for prior versions of the iPad, you will need to buy a new case for the iPad 5."

I want a job where I get paid to be that much of a genius 1smile.gif

P.S. When I hear "form factor" I think general dimensions and proportions. The new iPad could have had a new mini-like design and the SAME old form factor (like iPad 1 to iPad 2, more or less).

But it's not. It's a different design AND form factor.

(Personally I'd be more likely to use "form factor" in an even more general sense; like iPod Touch vs iPad.)
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The mini cover doesn't have a metallic hinge. Why would Apple go back to that?
post #23 of 40
...and here I thought they would have used the same exact smart cover on a new smaller device.
post #24 of 40
Brian White and Gene Munster have the two worst track records on predicting earnings, new products etc. this is fact not my opinion!!
Take anything these guys say with a grain of salt as it usually is worthless
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STOP USING THE WORD FORM FACTOR WHEN YOU MEAN DESIGN. IT HAS A THINNER DESIGN. Form factor is a made up garbage description that doesn't mean anything. At all. Design. Say what you mean instead of trying to "sound smart". Trust me, everyone will know what you mean by thinner "design". I promise.

 



I for one have my credit card ready for the new FORM FACTOR ipad.

Ditto!

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STOP USING THE WORD FORM FACTOR WHEN YOU MEAN DESIGN. IT HAS A THINNER DESIGN. Form factor is a made up garbage description that doesn't mean anything. At all. Design. Say what you mean instead of trying to "sound smart". Trust me, everyone will know what you mean by thinner "design". I promise.

 

FYI: "Form factor" is two words, not one.

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Form factor is a made up garbage description that doesn't mean anything. At all.

 

Originally Posted by zafdingbat
Buzzwords

 

Oh, you mean like:

 

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…BURN… …FLAME… …BLAH… …LULZ.
…dumdum… …ZOMGZ… …ROTFL…

…PS…

LMFAO.

 

Want the origins of each of those, or can we just agree that you’re clinically intellectually challenged, ban you, and move on from your pathetic tirade?

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post #28 of 40
I expect him to retreat into the shadows, lay low for a while until this embarrassment blows over. They'll be back. They always come back.

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Blah blah blah. It means design. I don't give two craps what wikipedia says. Why don't you write a white paper about it. Or purple paper. Check the calculus and make sure the optics are right. Buzzwords are killing the english language. But you're right, if you read it on the internet (wikipedia) it must be so. 

 

Put that in your form factor! 


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STOP USING THE WORD FORM FACTOR WHEN YOU MEAN DESIGN. IT HAS A THINNER DESIGN. Form factor is a made up garbage description that doesn't mean anything. At all. Design. Say what you mean instead of trying to "sound smart". Trust me, everyone will know what you mean by thinner "design". I promise.

oh, please.  You just don't want it to be associated with the phrase "form over function"

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All you guys are actually responding to a poster with dingbat in his user name. lol.gif

Well that just means he/she is a fan of a certain font.... hardly extraordinary here in nerdland.

 

http://www.fonts.com/font/itc/itc-zapf-dingbats

 

Granted, major lost points for misspelling Zapf

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I did misspell it. Aw, shucks. Well, that just invalidates everything I wrote. That being said, I've made some truly great friends today. Thanks for all the insight. Don't ever stop being the same great people you are.
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STOP USING THE WORD FORM FACTOR WHEN YOU MEAN DESIGN. IT HAS A THINNER DESIGN. Form factor is a made up garbage description that doesn't mean anything. At all. Design. Say what you mean instead of trying to "sound smart". Trust me, everyone will know what you mean by thinner "design". I promise.

Get some sleep, Bro! :)

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…BURN… …FLAME… …BLAH… …LULZ.
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LMFAO.

Want the origins of each of those, or can we just agree that you’re clinically intellectually challenged, ban you, and move on from your pathetic tirade?

Boyz will be boyz.
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post #35 of 40
Doesn't apple have so many patents for the cover; like a built in keyboard, built in touch screen, who knows, camera mics and battery's could be built in, all leading to awesome accessory with awesome device. I hope it has high specs this year
post #36 of 40
Guys, zafdingbat is leading an intelligent, meaning discussion here. Listen up.

Meanwhile, the press invite Apple sent out 20 minutes ago did mention "cover". I'd take that as another hint.
post #37 of 40

It has a more pleasing design, utilizing a thinner form factor.

post #38 of 40
Thank you alanwong, so close to alanone - TRON. You fight for the users!

KFC1138, THX1138 wants you to know he's looking forward to everything you said, design, form factor, and all.

God bless us, everyone.
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Donald Pleasance was never better and I am a George Lucas fan, hence..,,,

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Leave it to someone in nerd land to finally get the connection. Points back from the font misspelling!
Edited by jfc1138 - 10/15/13 at 10:15pm
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JFC1138, if only I could make the THX sound on a message board. Thanks for the points refund. 

 

It's fun to stir the pot sometimes. I haven't been on a message board in years. It's fun.

 

Agree on all points (most, anyway) regarding form factor. I went to design school, so I like design. Progress is hard for us old folks. 

 

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