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how are those interest conflicting? 

It sounds like their interests line up nicely.
post #42 of 95

I predict: 

 

Apple will put forth some excellent product that we just can't wait to buy, while the media clamors to predict Apple's doom because they did not release x-y-x product/feature. 

post #43 of 95
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It sounds like their interests line up nicely.

 

 I thought so lol 

post #44 of 95
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It sounds like their interests line up nicely.

The two conflicting interests of Appleinsider that are behind the term "Conflict of interest" are:

1) The interest to write a decent article (or to write an article that makes people come back to Appleinsider).

2) The interest to earn money by inserting somewhat off-topic or rather not relevant promotional text.

 

Readers normally assume that all information in an article is reasonably relevant because they assume that it is in Appleinsider's interest to write articles that way. But if the reader does not know about interest (2) they will Appleinsider give some leeway and believe them to some degree that right now it is important to talk about Gazelle. That is why such declaration of conflict of interest is generally considered to be necessary, to avoid that readers are deceived about the motives behind an article or part of it.

 

This here is naturally only a small issue as the deceiving didn't last very long anyway (ie, we have realised after only a small number of articles that the mentioning of Gazelle in every article about the release of a new Apple product was not happening because it was important and relevant in every article).

post #45 of 95
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The two conflicting interests of Appleinsider that are behind the term "Conflict of interest" are:

1) The interest to write a decent article (or to write an article that makes people come back to Appleinsider).

2) The interest to earn money by inserting somewhat off-topic or rather not relevant promotional text.

 

Readers normally assume that all information in an article is reasonably relevant because they assume that it is in Appleinsider's interest to write articles that way. But if the reader does not know about interest (2) they will Appleinsider give some leeway and believe them to some degree that right now it is important to talk about Gazelle. That is why such declaration of conflict of interest is generally considered to be necessary, to avoid that readers are deceived about the motives behind an article or part of it.

 

This here is naturally only a small issue as the deceiving didn't last very long anyway (ie, we have realised after only a small number of articles that the mentioning of Gazelle in every article about the release of a new Apple product was not happening because it was important and relevant in every article).

 

You are confusing full disclosure with conflict of interest.

 

AI has no conflicting interest in writing an article and inserting an affiliate link where applicable. A conflict of interest would be speaking ill of selling your iPad early while having said link within the article. As anyone would do showcasing an item and linking to their Amazon affiliate account. 

 

Or

 

If someone having power/position uses said power/position to promote an entity that benefits them, yes, that could be conflicting interest. But I don't think AI is using their position as journalist to promote, rather, they are simply inserting an affiliate link. If, however, they were to say company X is better than company Z and they are getting paid by company X, then yes, a conflict has been made.


Edited by Richard Getz - 10/15/13 at 5:26pm
post #46 of 95
This is the usual time to update the iPod line.
It may only be a few small changes, more memory,
new colors, etc. But it would seem likely there
would be a refresh for the Christmas season.
post #47 of 95
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Originally Posted by Richard Getz View Post
 

 

You are confusing full disclosure with conflict of interest.

 

AI has no conflicting interest in writing an article and inserting an affiliate link where applicable. A conflict of interest would be speaking ill of selling your iPad early while having said link within the article. As anyone would do showcasing an item and linking to their Amazon affiliate account. 

 

Or

 

If someone having power/position uses said power/position to promote an entity that benefits them, yes, that could be conflicting interest. But I don't think AI is using their position as journalist to promote, rather, they are simply inserting an affiliate link. If, however, they were to say company X is better than company Z and they are getting paid by company X, then yes, a conflict has been made.

Full disclosure is there to expose any potential conflicts of interest. 'Full disclosure' is an activity (or the result of that activity) and a 'conflict of interest' is a situation of conflicting motivations. There is nothing to confuse here.

 

Conflict of interest means there are two conflicting interests (which I had shown an example of). Which is also the case in your example, the interest to gain affiliate fees vs. the interest to write bad about the iPad (except that you failed to actually identify why writing bad about the iPad would be in your interest, though the most obvious would be because the iPad is bad but maybe your interest could also be in trashing things for the sake of thrashing). 

 

Well, if they insert an affiliate link to an unrelated product, eg, a toaster, into an article about Apple products, it is not just 'inserting an affiliate link', it is diverting the reader's attention towards a product category (and a specific product) and that is the offence.

post #48 of 95
For what ever reason; there is showing up reports that the iPad Mini Retina will not be one of the iPad Mini 2 for 2013. Many pundits now talk of an slightly upgraded iPad Mini 2 with same resolution and an A5X processor upgrade - not even an A6! This is completely understandable for the replacement of the iPad Mini which has only an old three year A5 inside it. But no Retina display until second quarter 2014!

I just hope this is a lie about the retina iPad Mini!
post #49 of 95
Who cares about these new products? They still have the crap IOS 7 on them. And you would have to be a moron to double down and download Mavericks on your computer. Apple has a major issue that they have to solve now. They have lost credibility with their customers, because of Maps, and IOS 7.
post #50 of 95

I am expecting a larger screen iPad, based on Apple "having a lot to cover." 

post #51 of 95
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Who cares about these new products? They still have the crap IOS 7 on them. And you would have to be a moron to double down and download Mavericks on your computer. Apple has a major issue that they have to solve now. They have lost credibility with their customers, because of Maps, and IOS 7.

Thanks for your angry, negative comment in AI, Mr "1 Post".

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"From the owner of iPhone 6+, Best Smart Phone of the Year 2014"

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Congratulation to Samsung Galaxy S5 for winning CNET's Best Android Phone of the Year 2014

 

"From the owner of iPhone 6+, Best Smart Phone of the Year 2014"

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post #52 of 95
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Who cares about these new products? They still have the crap IOS 7 on them. And you would have to be a moron to double down and download Mavericks on your computer. Apple has a major issue that they have to solve now. They have lost credibility with their customers, because of Maps, and IOS 7.

Great.

Now you have so thoroughly talked about your imagination, you may go now...and maybe see the real world.

post #53 of 95
Should be a good event.

Mavericks and Mac Pro (the latter long time in coming...) So I'm looking forward to both of those. And some sane pricing for the entry model (and I say that as a top end BTO iMac owner...)

4k 'Cinema' display?

and ofc.

The new 'Pads are going to be impressive with the Rogue and A7 chipset. An A7X chipset should kick booty in the iPad 5 (New New...)

I have a 3rd Gen iPad and a A7X Rogue iPad 5 will blow the doors off it. For me, the iPad isn't quite big enough for want I want to do.

Wonder if we'll get a 12 inch plus iPad to add to the range?

I've been more impressed with Cook's performances each time he walks out onto the 'Apple Faithful' stage. I think he's doing a good job overall.

Lemon Bon Bon.

You know, for a company that specializes in the video-graphics market, you'd think that they would offer top-of-the-line GPUs...

 

WITH THE NEW MAC PRO THEY FINALLY DID!  (But you bend over for it.)

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You know, for a company that specializes in the video-graphics market, you'd think that they would offer top-of-the-line GPUs...

 

WITH THE NEW MAC PRO THEY FINALLY DID!  (But you bend over for it.)

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post #54 of 95
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Great.

Now you have so thoroughly talked about your imagination, you may go now...and maybe see the real world.

 

People used to moan about OS X and how it looked or the lack of teh 'snappy.'

 

Now OS X is a work of art.

 

iOS 7 is just the beginning of where maybe OS 'Ten' passes the batton.

 

There was an Apple II.  Then the Mac.  Now we have iOS7.  They'll refine it in time...wonder what it will look like after another 'ten' cats?

 

 

Lemon Bon Bon.

You know, for a company that specializes in the video-graphics market, you'd think that they would offer top-of-the-line GPUs...

 

WITH THE NEW MAC PRO THEY FINALLY DID!  (But you bend over for it.)

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You know, for a company that specializes in the video-graphics market, you'd think that they would offer top-of-the-line GPUs...

 

WITH THE NEW MAC PRO THEY FINALLY DID!  (But you bend over for it.)

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post #55 of 95
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I am expecting a larger screen iPad, based on Apple "having a lot to cover." 

I think that's a reasonable guess based upon a clue in the invite, ascii.

 

Why not have the Macbook Pro's 13 inch Retina screen?  Give it to the Air as well.

 

And you have one screen to share production costs?

 

Love to have a 13 inch iPad...

 

Lemon Bon Bon.

You know, for a company that specializes in the video-graphics market, you'd think that they would offer top-of-the-line GPUs...

 

WITH THE NEW MAC PRO THEY FINALLY DID!  (But you bend over for it.)

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You know, for a company that specializes in the video-graphics market, you'd think that they would offer top-of-the-line GPUs...

 

WITH THE NEW MAC PRO THEY FINALLY DID!  (But you bend over for it.)

Reply
post #56 of 95

There's about 3 inches between the mini and the main iPad.  Why not another 3 inches.  Another two...is ok.  But another 3 really is a marker of intent.  8 to 10 to 13 inches.  That covers plenty of ground there.  IN a recent MacDailyNews poll, nearly 25% of people wanted an iPad with a screen size of 12-17 inches.  While I'd love one of 17 inches...a 13 inch model would be sweet for artists, musicians and even begins to make a great little desktop come laptop.

 

Something for everybody that way.

 

Lemon Bon Bon.

You know, for a company that specializes in the video-graphics market, you'd think that they would offer top-of-the-line GPUs...

 

WITH THE NEW MAC PRO THEY FINALLY DID!  (But you bend over for it.)

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You know, for a company that specializes in the video-graphics market, you'd think that they would offer top-of-the-line GPUs...

 

WITH THE NEW MAC PRO THEY FINALLY DID!  (But you bend over for it.)

Reply
post #57 of 95
Originally Posted by bloggo
Who cares about these new products? They still have the crap IOS 7 on them. And you would have to be a moron to double down and download Mavericks on your computer. Apple has a major issue that they have to solve now. They have lost credibility with their customers, because of Maps, and IOS 7.

 

 

Thank you, drive-by trollers, for continuing to affirm that I am not the most pathetic and worthless person on the face of the Earth.

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post #58 of 95
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Full disclosure is there to expose any potential conflicts of interest. 'Full disclosure' is an activity (or the result of that activity) and a 'conflict of interest' is a situation of conflicting motivations. There is nothing to confuse here.

 

Conflict of interest means there are two conflicting interests (which I had shown an example of). Which is also the case in your example, the interest to gain affiliate fees vs. the interest to write bad about the iPad (except that you failed to actually identify why writing bad about the iPad would be in your interest, though the most obvious would be because the iPad is bad but maybe your interest could also be in trashing things for the sake of thrashing). 

 

Well, if they insert an affiliate link to an unrelated product, eg, a toaster, into an article about Apple products, it is not just 'inserting an affiliate link', it is diverting the reader's attention towards a product category (and a specific product) and that is the offence.

 

I 100% disagree. The article was about iPads and the link was about selling your iPad. There is no conflict in producing the article by means of not including valuable information, or tainting information in favor of a product/service. The article was not biased based on the link whatsoever. The two did not conflict on the other.

 

Now, if this was a review of places to sell your used iPad and AI rated the affiliated company 5 Stars and included a link without disclosing, there would be a conflict- a completing agenda. Unbiased review and affiliation. 

 

There is no conflict, no competing agenda, and no bias skewed towards or against the affiliate or the article. 

post #59 of 95

AppleTV hardware really doesn't need an update.

 

I guess an A6 or A7 chip combined with 802.11ac could offer the potential for faster performance, but other than that I can't see much reason.

 

I'd be happier to first get an Airport Express with 802.11ac. I've been under the assumption that they've held that back to drive sales of Time Capsule/Airport Extreme. At $99 it would be a very affordable AC base station.

post #60 of 95
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Who cares about these new products? They still have the crap IOS 7 on them. And you would have to be a moron to double down and download Mavericks on your computer. Apple has a major issue that they have to solve now. They have lost credibility with their customers, because of Maps, and IOS 7.

LOL.

 

Ok.

post #61 of 95
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LOL.

 

Ok.

Had me at "maps"

 

:D

post #62 of 95
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Originally Posted by Richard Getz View Post
 

 

I 100% disagree. The article was about iPads and the link was about selling your iPad. There is no conflict in producing the article by means of not including valuable information, or tainting information in favor of a product/service. 

Of course, if you found the paragraph on Gazelle useful then there is no conflict of interest, adding it got them money and it made the article better. 

 

But the key point here was that most people did not find it that useful, otherwise the question about any conflicts would not have been asked and discussed. 

post #63 of 95
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Of course, if you found the paragraph on Gazelle useful then there is no conflict of interest, adding it got them money and it made the article better. 

 

But the key point here was that most people did not find it that useful, otherwise the question about any conflicts would not have been asked and discussed. 

 

Usefulness is not a measure of conflict. Was the information in the article compromised, or could it have been compromised, due to the relationship of the affiliation? And that answer is NO! 

post #64 of 95
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Frankly, I do not expect any major changes to the iPad mini, especially no Retina display upgrade. It's unnecessary as a lower priced iPad option which effectively replaced the low-end first-gen iPad.

How can you even say that? People were surprised when the iPad mini came WITHOUT the retina display so why wouldn't they do that? All of apples products with a display are moving to retina. That's just how it is. The iPad mini needs it too. If they don't do that then it isn't even worth being called an iPad Mini 2.
post #65 of 95

Do you think the Mac Mini will have a retina design if they come out with a new model now?

post #66 of 95
could be...

They still have got news to cover

they might announce a news service on apple tv and the i watch and i phone. You can choose from different free and paid news sources. From that it's an easy path to other paid tv/film content.

Or they will make a thin mobile phone with a front (cover) like the shell models. So the touchscreen stays keyscratchfree. A reason for some not to buy a touchscreen phone.

or they make holo tv possible from out of your watch. 1smile.gif
post #67 of 95
An updated Thunderbolt monitor would be nice. Will have to look into the Airport Express and see what that is.

Got a huge budget and want to unload it at the Apple store.
post #68 of 95

I really hope there will be an option to order the mac pro on tuesday. Eager to know what options you can choose from. And what price range.  I guess price will be something like model 1: 1700 euro , model 2: 2600  euro, model 3 (the pricy but for most video people desired one which can be an option) 3500 euro and model 4 (the really desired but not affordable one) 4900 euro and model 5 with every option possible only for big studios 7200 euro.  

post #69 of 95
I would love to see an ATV with an app store!
And Amazon Prime...
And a way to access and play video on a Mac but not within iTunes.
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If youre going to join an internet forum just to pimp your own website

 

Don’t reply; just report as spam.

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post #71 of 95

We are all just guessing. Let us see what transpires next week.

post #72 of 95
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We are all just guessing. 

 

That is part of the fun.  Nothing wrong with it, IMO.

 

Your = the possessive of you, as in, "Your name is Tom, right?" or "What is your name?"

 

You're = a contraction of YOU + ARE as in, "You are right" --> "You're right."

 

 

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Your = the possessive of you, as in, "Your name is Tom, right?" or "What is your name?"

 

You're = a contraction of YOU + ARE as in, "You are right" --> "You're right."

 

 

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post #73 of 95

What to expect from Apple's Oct. 22 event:

A bunch of top class products from apple and a bunch of iHaters moaning about things that don't exist.

It's funny how the haters claim they used the product on release day meaning they stood in line for it even though they hate it.

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Originally Posted by bananaman View Post
It's funny how the haters claim they used the product on release day meaning they stood in line for it even though they hate it.

 

To be fair to morons, Apple Stores have demo units out on launch day, too.


Doesn’t say much for someone to take time and go to a store of a company he hates to use products he hates, though. :lol:

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post #75 of 95
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What to expect from Apple's Oct. 22 event:

A bunch of top class products from apple and a bunch of iHaters moaning about things that don't exist.

It's funny how the haters claim they used the product on release day meaning they stood in line for it even though they hate it.

 

Yes, and no.

 

 

I would hope that nobody blindly loves every Apple product.  To do so would allow Apple to lower their design threshold.  We need to keep high expectations of them and if they don't meet the expectations they need to hear it.   Take iOS7.  I hate it.  Period.  I think they screwed up.  I have given them feedback and hope that the next release (8) is an improvement.  By not liking iOS7, am I an iHater?  Tell that to my five iDevices.

 

There will be a lot of people screaming Failnote and the usual crap, but there will also be genuine Apple fans who will find some fault with the design and they should be free to say so.

 

That said, design is a tough call and Apple makes decisions about what will sell, not necessarily make everybody happy.  They have shown that they are willing to tick off a group of users or two (final Cut Pro X, anyone?).


Edited by Bergermeister - 10/19/13 at 8:13am

 

Your = the possessive of you, as in, "Your name is Tom, right?" or "What is your name?"

 

You're = a contraction of YOU + ARE as in, "You are right" --> "You're right."

 

 

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Your = the possessive of you, as in, "Your name is Tom, right?" or "What is your name?"

 

You're = a contraction of YOU + ARE as in, "You are right" --> "You're right."

 

 

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post #76 of 95
Herer's another opportunity to see how accurate KGI's analyst Mingchi Kuo is. He's predicting a slimmer and lighter iPad 5, down to 7.5mm thick and 20% lighter at 500g in weight. He also believes the camera will go to 8MP and of course includes a 64 bit processor. What won't it have? A fingerprint reader.
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post #77 of 95
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To be fair to morons, Apple Stores have demo units out on launch day, too.


Doesn’t say much for someone to take time and go to a store of a company he hates to use products he hates, though. :lol:

They still have to wait in line to get in right??

 

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Yes, and no.

 

 

I would hope that nobody blindly loves every Apple product.  To do so would allow Apple to lower their design threshold.  We need to keep high expectations of them and if they don't meet the expectations they need to hear it.   Take iOS7.  I hate it.  Period.  I think they screwed up.  I have given them feedback and hope that the next release (8) is an improvement.  By not liking iOS7, am I an iHater?  Tell that to my five iDevices.

 

There will be a lot of people screaming Failnote and the usual crap, but there will also be genuine Apple fans who will find some fault with the design and they should be free to say so.

 

That said, design is a tough call and Apple makes decisions about what will sell, not necessarily make everybody happy.  They have shown that they are willing to tick off a group of users or two (final Cut Pro X, anyone?).

I am talking about the absolute trolls who bash apple products because they are paid to/they don't have a life.

I was EXPECTING top class products from apple and EXPECTING dumb trolls to bash it for some unreal  reason.

"you still don't have an IR blaster"

"you still can't make your icons look like unicorns"

those trolls.

post #78 of 95
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They still have to wait in line to get in right??

 

I am talking about the absolute trolls who bash apple products because they are paid to/they don't have a life.

I was EXPECTING top class products from apple and EXPECTING dumb trolls to bash it for some unreal  reason.

"you still don't have an IR blaster"

"you still can't make your icons look like unicorns"

those trolls.

 

Gotcha.  Yeah, those trolls are out there.  Sadly, they are many.

 

A year ago or so, just before  something was released, we had a thread here on AI that was a pre-emptivve list of teh complaints about the new item.  Was great fun, and easy to toss together!

 

Your = the possessive of you, as in, "Your name is Tom, right?" or "What is your name?"

 

You're = a contraction of YOU + ARE as in, "You are right" --> "You're right."

 

 

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Your = the possessive of you, as in, "Your name is Tom, right?" or "What is your name?"

 

You're = a contraction of YOU + ARE as in, "You are right" --> "You're right."

 

 

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post #79 of 95
Originally Posted by bananaman View Post
They still have to wait in line to get in right??

 

If you’re not buying the new device, no. That’s just stupid.

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post #80 of 95
My curiosity about what is about to happen to the Mini continues to grow. I'm still expecting a new device of some sort. The lack of interest with respect to the Mini is saddening.
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