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This kind of fallacious argument doesn't really help here - I don't need to try heroine in order to know that it is bad.

 

That's a stupid analogy.

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post #42 of 270

This contradicts every report I have seen since the iOS7 launch.  And, why does it stop at Day 7?  

 

I don't need AppleInsider to jump on the speculative bandwagon without doing better analysis of all the facts and use of some judgement.  Please do not go down that fuc**** road   

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Secondary thought all the "white" sucking the juice of our batteries? Yes I could reverse the screen but that is too dark.

Using more white does not affect battery life on standard LCD displays. It technically takes more energy to make black since the LCD must block out the backlight which is always on. AMOLED does use less energy with black screens.
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Back the truck up! You're comparing a smartphone OS and HERION???

 

Are you seriously full of bullshit, or just pretending to be full of bullshit whilst actually just full of regular shit???

 

If you're that closed-minded and incapable of seeing 2 feet in front of you, then keep your trolling trap shut and leave, sick of people like you commenting when you haven't the SLIGHTEST clue WTF you're talking about!

 

You mad?

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Question - how many devices out there and still in use are cannot run iOS7? For example, iPhone 3GS and older, iPods older than 5th generation, and original iPad (and I%u2019m not sure I%u2019d even consider it on an iPad 2 since it%u2019s non-retina). We should adjust the numbers by the percent that aren%u2019t even in play.

 

Good point.

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If you think that having a different opinion than yours constitutes "trolling", you may wish to refrain from using forums such as this. Otherwise, please feel free to respond with valid arguments - most of my friends do NOT like iOS7; iPhone 5C sales are already a disaster and reflect huge demand miscalculation by Cook, the world's former "best COO"; and iTunes 11 is most decidedly a pathetic upgrade on all counts...so again: prove me wrong. 

 

Stop spewing lies.  Just because your 'friends' don't like iOS7 does not mean it's true.  Now lets stick to FACTS instead of your ridiculous Bull Sheet.

 

#1 Tim Cook stated that iOS7 was the largest/fastest adoption in the history of iOS.  THATS A FACT.

#2  - iPhone 5C was either the #2 or #3 phone on all the major carriers in the USA for Sept.  Even though it was out for only 10 days.  THAT IS A FACT.

#3 - Together with the 5S it was the greatest iPhone launch EVER.  And by 80%. THAT IS A FACT.

 

But of course you are a lawyer so you aren't concerned with facts.

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Not to be pedantic or a grammar Nazi but it should be noted that heroin is a highly addictive opiate derived narcotic and heroine is woman admired or idealized for her courage, outstanding achievements, or noble qualities.
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Originally Posted by brlawyer View Post
 

 

No, it cannot; album art on the lower left corner? Not possible. Search results/methodology? Worse. List view? Also worse. Multiple iTunes windows? Nope.

 

Just google around.

Hey, just because YOU think it's horrid, doesn't make it so for everyone else... Case in point, I believe iTunes 11 is a MASSIVE improvement in almost every usability respect, and am THANKFUL to the all-mighty cyber-gods that it finally got an overhaul!

 

You seem to comment in such a way as to seemingly try forcing your opinion on everyone else, and demean all those who don't agree with you.

 

Why don't you scurry on along back to BGR where people like you belong!

post #49 of 270
"I won't update to the new OS because it is ugly, it is slow, it is <<insert non-sense reason here>>. "

Pretty much the same things were said about Mac OS X by Mac OS 9 users.

iOS 7 is v1.0 of the new user experience. It's bound to make some uncomfortable just simply because it is different. In two years everyone will be on this new iOS and we'll all look back and laugh about how ugly iOS 6 was. Just like we laugh about how ugly Mac OS 9 was.
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Originally Posted by brlawyer View Post

 

If you think that having a different opinion than yours constitutes "trolling", you may wish to refrain from using forums such as this. Otherwise, please feel free to respond with valid arguments - most of my friends do NOT like iOS7; iPhone 5C sales are already a disaster and reflect huge demand miscalculation by Cook, the world's former "best COO"; and iTunes 11 is most decidedly a pathetic upgrade on all counts...so again: prove me wrong. 

 



By what measure is the 5c a disaster??? and how are you privy to what Tim Cook's calculations regarding demand were pre-release? Are you on the Apple board? By all accounts the 5s is selling better than the 5 and the 5c is selling better than the 4s last year. I think that is exactly what Apple had in mind. I would be more concerned if the 5c was selling at a higher percentage because it could indicate poor demand for the flagship 5s. I think people that think the 5c is a disappointment don't undersatnd Apple's business model. I find it humerous that no matter how many times Jobs used to say it and now Cook says that Apple is not concerned with market share, people still freak out when Apple doesn't mindlessly attack the low end market to gain market share.
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Pretty much what I expected so see. It started out at the same pace as early adopters got on it...then the gut-rench reaction to change kicked in and people took to social media to blast it, giving others pause.

However, pace aside, people will eventually update.

 

You're right... give it 2 years.  8-)
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post #52 of 270
Yes, there are still some things I don't particularly like about iOS 7, but on the other hand I actually am liking it a lot more than I initially thought I would. There were things I didn't like about iOS 6 also! iOS 7 is like a reboot for all Apple devices and I think they were right to do things differently since Steve's death.

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post #53 of 270
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I "googled around" and the internet says you're full of it.

 

Am I?

 

http://mashable.com/2012/11/30/itunes-11-rocks/ - (see comments, please)

 

http://www.nadynerichmond.com/blog/2012/12/06/ten-reasons-why-i-hate-itunes-11/

 

http://www.whathifi.com/forum/computer-based-media/itunes-11

 

"iTunes 11 is horrible" - 3,220 results - "iTunes 11 is great" - 870 results.

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post #54 of 270
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"I won't update to the new OS because it is ugly, it is slow, it is <>. "

Pretty much the same things were said about Mac OS X by Mac OS 9 users.

iOS 7 is v1.0 of the new user experience. It's bound to make some uncomfortable just simply because it is different. In two years everyone will be on this new iOS and we'll all look back and laugh about how ugly iOS 6 was. Just like we laugh about how ugly Mac OS 9 was.

 

 

OS 9 to OS X was a huge jump, much greater than iOS 6 to iOS 7.

 

The benefits just aren't as obvious.

 

By the way... OS X v1 was a dog with fleas that garnered lots of negative press... right alongside all the talk of how Apple was moving in the right direction.

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Not to be pedantic or a grammar Nazi but it should be noted that heroin is a highly addictive opiate derived narcotic and heroine is woman admired or idealized for her courage, outstanding achievements, or noble qualities.

 

I stand corrected in my first post :D

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post #56 of 270

This is horse manure.  I have a huge library, and iTunes 11 is much more responsive for me.  It's very easy to configure it to work almost exactly like iTunes 10, but I don't, because 11 uses space more efficiently.  I don't need a big sidebar of playlists when I'm not working with playlists.

 

It sounds to me like you've taken a bunch of reactionary peoples' opinions to heart without really giving it an honest go yourself.  Losing the sidebar was very alarming to a lot of people, and they lacked the initiative to find the option in the view menu.  How about you?

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IOS7 is unquestionably the best iOS yet. And I am not saying this to mock Tim Cook. Sure there are bugs, but bugs are born to be zapped. 

 

Those call it ugly are missing the point. Furthermore, they should ask themselves if anyone has hired them for their designer skills lately.

 

There are so many wonders about this iOS version. I will name three that are reshaping users' lives and habits, perhaps without you even knowing about it.

 

1. It is the first and only mobile OS that really takes advantage of Retina caliber Display.

2. Look at how all relevant apps are being updated to conform. I'd argue that some apps look better than iOS itself but developers have less to contend with than Apple.

3. iBeacons

 

If you don't appreciate iOS7, you don't understand software. Apple has a lot of work to fix the bugs and clean up the look. But iOS7 is something special. As for releasing it too early? This is nothing like Maps. Imagine if Apple broke away from the one iOS update per year cycle?

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I stand corrected in my first post :D

 

There's also probably a few heroines that you don't like and aren't good for you.

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post #59 of 270
I have it running on both an iPhone 4 and an iPad 4 and I don't have any problems with either. Neither device has "blue screened", and neither device is having any of the other problems other than my iPhone 4 does need to get charged a little more often, it's almost 2 years old and that battery doesn't last forever. Other than that, it's NOT horrible to use, just a little different. Some of the new features I like. If there are bugs on it, I'm sure they'll be fixed with the next bug release, but I'm sure most or all of these bugs will be fixed before Thanksgiving. At least we don't have to wait a year for a bug fix like Windows or cross our fingers that the device actually even gets updated like Android.
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This kind of fallacious argument doesn't really help here - I don't need to try heroine in order to know that it is bad.
That analogy is a bit harsh.,, I didn't like iOS 7 at first but after a few weeks I certainly would not go back to iOS6
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Seems like more people are using the wait and see strategy for all the bugs to be fixed.

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I am not talking about iTunes 11's "sync/backup" (which probably works in the same way as before); I am talking about
iTunes 11 itself and the fact that I would be obliged to use it in order to sync/backup an iOS 7 device - a total train wreck and much, much worse than iTunes 10 in virtually every respect, particularly in terms of UI, large library management, album list view, etc. etc. etc. No need to elaborate, just google around. 
Ever heard of wireless syncing?
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USAToday published an article painting iOS 7 in a bad light. There's lots of talk outside of AI about Apple losing its mojo.

http://usat.ly/1gnDQlP

 

 

Tell us something that we don't know.

 

Here, some reviews of those pundit articles :

 

http://www.macworld.com/author/The-Macalope/

post #64 of 270
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Originally Posted by island hermit View Post
 

 

 

OS 9 to OS X was a huge jump, much greater than iOS 6 to iOS 7.

 

The benefits just aren't as obvious.

 

By the way... OS X v1 was a dog with fleas that garnered lots of negative press... right alongside all the talk of how Apple was moving in the right direction.

 

There is absolutely no comparison with OS X in this context - everyone and their dog knew that 10.0 was pretty much a public beta, a work in progress (heck, there wasn't even printer or burning support in the beginning); however, virtually NO ONE denied that it was the way forward, particularly in terms of stability and the advantages of its UNIX underpinnings.  

 

On the other hand, iOS 7 is supposed to be a highly-polished revamp that constitutes a much-narrower jump when compared to OS X - back then, it simply meant that OS 9 was thrown in the dustbin of history, as depicted by SJ himself.

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post #65 of 270
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No, it cannot; album art on the lower left corner? Not possible. Search results/methodology? Worse. List view? Also worse. Multiple iTunes windows? Nope.

 

Just google around.

click on the album art work at the top player portion, it becomes a lot bigger and moveable.

 

Search results/methodology?  I'm having a tough time understanding what you mean by "methodology" in that statement.

 

Why would you need multiple iTunes Windows?  you must be masochistic.  

post #67 of 270
I'm in love with the update. Very little trouble with anything and some major improvements to Siri, Maps, and others.

I suspect the delay until after 5:00 for updating had as much to do with backed up servers as anything else. That's how long it took me to get the update downloaded and installed.
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...  iOS 7 is v1.0 of the new user experience. It's bound to make some uncomfortable just simply because it is different. In two years everyone will be on this new iOS and we'll all look back and laugh about how ugly iOS 6 was. Just like we laugh about how ugly Mac OS 9 was.

Yeah, in 2 yrs when Apple drops support for iOS6, everyone will be on iOS7.

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That's the kind of people who comment on these forums - they see a different opinion, take everything literally and lose control like rabid dogs. Even though I am sure some heroin addicts would love to tell you how good its "high" is.

 

No you are the one who says the iPhone 5C is a total failure even though you HAVE ZERO FACTS to back it up.  Stop spewing lies.  You can say you don't like the 5C or iOS7 but don't be making broad statements that the whole world hates it too.

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Yeah, in 2 yrs when Apple drops support for iOS6, everyone will be on iOS7.
They've already dropped support.
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Ever heard of wireless syncing, troll?

 

I don't backup to iCloud, I wanna do it through iTunes - likewise for my apps. So please enlighten me on how to use iOS 7 without iTunes 11.

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post #72 of 270

The method and view for quitting apps that are running in iOS 7 is worth the update by itself. So much better than what was used in the past versions of iOS...

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No you are the one who says the iPhone 5C is a total failure even though you HAVE ZERO FACTS to back it up.  Stop spewing lies.  You can say you don't like the 5C or iOS7 but don't be making broad statements that the whole world hates it too.

 

Isn't tech news sufficient in that case? Early price cuts and evidence that it only constitutes less than 1/3 of new iPhone sales, EVEN THOUGH our dear leader Cook implied that the 5C would be the most popular and accessible model...what else is needed?

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post #74 of 270

There are a few legitimate problems on iOS7 on 5S.

 

- buggy with iWork apps... very soon to be replaced so no big deal at all

- my 5S crashes at least once a day, and that's not acceptable to me, but it's probably just problems with the 64 bit architecture, so it'll probably get soon better

- inclinometers badly aligned. I'm lucky mine is off by just one degree in one dimension only, so I can still use it the other way, or just subtract the degree. This is the biggest problem that maybe they won't be able to correct, but not a huge deal by itself, even if annoying.

 

Almost all can be corrected and will be via updates.

 

5S, best phone I ever had.

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I've noticed the majority of people who complain about iOS 7 are those that haven't USED it or can't use it because their devices are too old. Everyone I've talked to who has upgraded, loves iOS 7. Yes, the colors are a bit garish, but a lot of the new features that make it easier to use far out weigh the color scheme.

 

Control Center, the new notifications, swiping from left to right to go back a screen, the new Safari, the app switcher (multi-tasker), etc.

 

I would NEVER go back to iOS 6 and using iOS 5 on my iPad is awful now. :(  Well not awful, but makes it feel so dated.

 

Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner.

 

I don't like the new icons, but BFD, almost everything else is a nice step forward.  

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I for one have had a poor experience with iOS 7 on my iPhone 4s (apps crashing, Siri does not work about 1/4 of the time, choppy UI, especially when an audio app is running in the background) and so have encouraged friends not to upgrade until at least the next iOS 7 update. Granted, some of the issues could be the apps themselves and not iOS 7, but one issue that is the Camera app crashes often when accessed from the lock screen. None of these things are the end of the world, but it has been a very un-Apple experience. I've had an iPhone since 2009 (a used first generation, 4, and now 4s) and these are the most issues I've had with the software. I'm sure the new OS works better with the 5c and 5s, but I'm really hoping future updates fix some of the issues.

 

For the record, I like it when it works. Most of the changes were easy to learn and actually very helpful.

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Originally Posted by mutoneon View Post
 

This is horse manure.  I have a huge library, and iTunes 11 is much more responsive for me.  It's very easy to configure it to work almost exactly like iTunes 10, but I don't, because 11 uses space more efficiently.  I don't need a big sidebar of playlists when I'm not working with playlists.

 

It sounds to me like you've taken a bunch of reactionary peoples' opinions to heart without really giving it an honest go yourself.  Losing the sidebar was very alarming to a lot of people, and they lacked the initiative to find the option in the view menu.  How about you?

The major beefs I have with iTunes are things like not supports FLAC, DSD.  It doesn't switch the Audio/MIDI settings on the fly like 3rd party players do, or have iZotrope 64 SRC and a few other features that players like Audirvana, Amarra, etc. have.

post #78 of 270

If this is actually true, one reason could be that as more and more people get iPhones, the mix of early-adopters to late-adopters sways towards the latter. People who waited 5+ years to get their first iPhone (and possibly their first smartphone) are probably also the ones less likely to upgrade their OS to the latest version as soon as it's available. So if you're talking about the total user base, percentages are likely to trend lower, even if absolute numbers of first-day upgrades increase.

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Now I'll post a story about the uptick in ios 7 downloads beating ios 6 by a wide margin (which was already published) and all of the comments will be glowing reviews. probably by some of the same posters for this story.
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That's the kind of people who comment on these forums - they see a different opinion, take everything literally and lose control like rabid dogs. Even though I am sure some heroin addicts would love to tell you how good its "high" is.

I'm with you man, these people are ridiculous and so close-minded. 

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