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post #81 of 113

So I got to thinking about having that iOS 7 package sitting in software update waiting to be installed. If you decided that you didn't want to install it, I wonder if it blocks your ability to receive and install iOS 6 patches should some security issue require one. Since even iPhone 4 can run iOS 7, I wonder if they have stopped supporting iOS 6 altogether.

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Just a shining example of how stupid people are and then they want others to pay for their stupidity. I have 4 iOS devices in my house and none of them have been updated to iOS 7 why because I did not allow them and I am waiting until the rest of you find all the bugs since we all know we can no longer down grade thanks to the jailbreak community. Wait that is it, he is a jailbreak plant, he is attempting to force apple to restore the ability to downgrade again.

You still can downgrade any iPhone except the 5s.  To do so go to ipswdownload.com.  Grab the ipsw file that you want to go back to like iOS 6.1.4.  Download it to your computer.  Launch iTunes.  Plug in your iPhone.  Go to iTunes restore screen.  Hold down option and hit restore.  Navigate to the just downloaded ipsw file and open.  There you go..   Back to iOS 6.1.4.

 

Of course this guy is probably too stupid to do that.  He sounds dumber than a box of rocks.

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The other thing too about this moron is that he really can't sue Tim Cook for an Apple iPhone problem.  Apple is a Corporation.  They are that for a good reason.  He can sue Apple but not individuals personally for corporate issues like iOS7.

This will be dumped by the court faster than you can Say Apple.

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So I got to thinking about having that iOS 7 package sitting in software update waiting to be installed. If you decided that you didn't want to install it, I wonder if it blocks your ability to receive and install iOS 6 patches should some security issue require one. Since even iPhone 4 can run iOS 7, I wonder if they have stopped supporting iOS 6 altogether.

Since it's not on your phone I doubt that very much. The download doesn't, in my experience, start until you give permission for the action to start.

 

Given there are phones that can't run 7 out there it's possible they'll keep patching 6 for them. Can't say but they may. The real challenge may be as more and more of the app selection moves beyond being compatible with 6. That's what usually triggers a desktop OS upgrade for me: once the applications no longer like the legacy OS....

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"This means that the automatically-downloaded installation file, which weighs in at more than one gigabyte and cannot be removed by the user, may decrease a device's available memory by up to fifteen percent with no way to recover the storage space. "

If you do a fresh install of iOS 6 without restore, you'll regain all your space. Then, set auto updates off and stop whining.
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So I got to thinking about having that iOS 7 package sitting in software update waiting to be installed. If you decided that you didn't want to install it, I wonder if it blocks your ability to receive and install iOS 6 patches should some security issue require one. Since even iPhone 4 can run iOS 7, I wonder if they have stopped supporting iOS 6 altogether.

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Not sure the guy will lose. MY g/f had a 4S and she loved it, her son bought it for her. All of a sudden, a short while ago she got a message, to wit, in effect: "Do you want to upgrade?" She hit NO. It loaded the upgrade anyway.... Now that was just plain NOT NICE. We had to eventually take it to Verizon where someone told he "someone was working on it." I was lucky I knew one of the guys at VZ and he got ride of much of the nonsense that was causing trouble but only have 4 tries! But she did lose her apps! She asked me, a fervent Apple type, "Why did they disregard my answer?" I have no idea.

It's easy to criticize this guy in CA for going after Cook (they need an "attackable ombudsman!") but I remember the frustration Carol had... she finally got angry cuz she felt somebody didn't do enough testing and secondly, asked a question the answer to which, they ignored,

 

Can you explain how i'm still on iOS 6 cuz according to your story, it will ignore me if i say NO and its just plain NOT NICE.

So how is this possible???

 

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post #88 of 113

Updates are great, but the customer has the option to update or not.  They should have the option to download.  

 

I am not updating to iOS7; personally, I think it is horrid to look at.  Many people like it and will install it  That is a personal choice.

My friend is not updating.  She has a health condition that is irritated by the motion and contrast and line sizes in iOS7.  That is not a personal choice; it is a medical need.  [Another friend with the same condition did update and now cannot use her phone.] 

 

Both our phones show one update flag.  Cannot get rid of it. 

 

Are we happy with this situation?  No.

Are we going to sue?  No.

 

Would we like Apple to care?  You bet.  (We wish they would fix iOS7)

Will they?  Not a chance.  They want everybody to update to 7.


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post #89 of 113

Just wondering, would a backup and restore get rid of the iOS 7 update files?

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Some people have this... "Install Now"... seems like already downloaded and taking up storage which Apple charges a lot for.

post #91 of 113

What an idiot.  He must also be 10 years old.  I guess he doesn't remember how Steve Jobs pissed people off by obsoleting technologies, interfaces, storage, etc. we all invested in- for the better I might add. Cook is not much different and most likely will maintain and grow the company.  I think this guy should get a Palm Pilot. I wouldn't give him the $50. 

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The funny thing is many people who hate Apple claimed they have a house full of Apple products.
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Apple was sued by another California man who alleged that the Cupertino company secretly conspired with the Italian mafia to threaten him into becoming a fashion model.

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Updates are great, but the customer has the option to update or not.  They should have the option to download.  

 

I am not updating to iOS7; personally, I think it is horrid to look at.  Many people like it and will install it  That is a personal choice.

My friend is not updating.  She has a health condition that is irritated by the motion and contrast and line sizes in iOS7.  That is not a personal choice; it is a medical need.  [Another friend with the same condition did update and now cannot use her phone.] 

 

Both our phones show one update flag.  Cannot get rid of it. 

 

Are we happy with this situation?  No.

Are we going to sue?  No.

 

Would we like Apple to care?  You bet.  (We wish they would fix iOS7)

Will they?  Not a chance.  They want everybody to update to 7.

 

Same here. My Settings app continues to show that ridiculous red flag as if I were forced to "upgrade". No dismissal possible.

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You still can downgrade any iPhone except the 5s.  To do so go to ipswdownload.com.  Grab the ipsw file that you want to go back to like iOS 6.1.4.  Download it to your computer.  Launch iTunes.  Plug in your iPhone.  Go to iTunes restore screen.  Hold down option and hit restore.  Navigate to the just downloaded ipsw file and open.  There you go..   Back to iOS 6.1.4.

 

Of course this guy is probably too stupid to do that.  He sounds dumber than a box of rocks.

 

Do you really know what you're talking about or do you just want him to jailbreak his phone?

 

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post #96 of 113

I noticed this also after I upgraded OVer The Air.  

I backed up my phone to my Laptop later that week anf re-installed iOS 7 from iTunes and then restored the backup.

 

PRESTO- DELETO, the phone regained almost 2.5 gigabytes of space, conceivably the installer file and other files that were floating out there.

Did the same for my ipad mini with the same results.

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You still can downgrade any iPhone except the 5s.  To do so go to ipswdownload.com.  Grab the ipsw file that you want to go back to like iOS 6.1.4.  Download it to your computer.  Launch iTunes.  Plug in your iPhone.  Go to iTunes restore screen.  Hold down option and hit restore.  Navigate to the just downloaded ipsw file and open.  There you go..   Back to iOS 6.1.4.

 

Of course this guy is probably too stupid to do that.  He sounds dumber than a box of rocks.

Hang on, brlawyer said that this isn't possible.  Could really use some clarity over this issue - is it possible to download a pre-iOS7 ipsw file and restore an iPhone (pre-5S) to the earlier software using iTunes, or isn't it?

 

Has anyone here tried, and can say categorically if it is or isn't possible?

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post #98 of 113
Judging from comments herein, the said Californian is likely herein.
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Hang on, brlawyer said that this isn't possible.  Could really use some clarity over this issue - is it possible to download a pre-iOS7 ipsw file and restore an iPhone (pre-5S) to the earlier software using iTunes, or isn't it?

Has anyone here tried, and can say categorically if it is or isn't possible?

Yes you can, just one problem though; Apple servers don't sign it, so your phone isn't activated.

What I want to know, really useless weird thing: was it possible to install iOS6 on a 5s during those 4 days after 7 was released and they still were signing 6? Without jaibreaking, obviously.
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post #100 of 113
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Just wondering, would a backup and restore get rid of the iOS 7 update files?

Yes.
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Tell him to get an Android. Then he won't have any updates...
The usual fanboi misleading garbage... My little brother 2 years old Samsung Galaxy Nexus is receiving every OS updates on day 1 and is up-to-date, so please put your bold lie and generalization where it belongs, to the trash.
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Fix your legal system USA.

The complaint of having a 1GB file automatically downloaded and stored when there's no intention to install it is actually sort of valid though. Something tells me there's probably an easy way to get rid of it though. Tim Cook should settle for 75$.

No it isn't. It's called "Terms and Conditions of iOS 6"

 

Bye bye.

post #103 of 113

Who cares. You're not entitled to pick your OS.

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The usual fanboi misleading garbage... My little brother 2 years old Samsung Galaxy Nexus is receiving every OS updates on day 1 and is up-to-date, so please put your bold lie and generalization where it belongs, to the trash.

Note that "Up to date" means that there are no additional updates to be performed. That's the problem with the poorly designed Android system. Most of these phones are up to date when they come from the factory and they remain that way for the the rest of their drawer ridden lives.

BTW, you can't pull out one Android phone as an example for all Android phones. The Nexus is clearly an exception to the typical cycle, just as the very few high-end devices that actually sell in volume, like the Samsung Galaxy S3, but in no way does that detract from his general point.
post #105 of 113
I think the way to do it is Reset All Contents and Settings, which is like restoring the device and then restore your backed up content. I wouldn't imagine the upgrade file would still be there. From then on switch off auto update.
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Some people have this... "Install Now"... seems like already downloaded and taking up storage which Apple charges a lot for.

An incremental update like that wouldn't take up all that much space and why ever would people who'd already made the leap to 7 NOT choose to install the maintenance tweaks?

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An incremental update like that wouldn't take up all that much space and why ever would people who'd already made the leap to 7 NOT choose to install the maintenance tweaks?

Except that phone isn't running iOS 7.
post #108 of 113

I think lawyers are gathering iphone users for a class action suit on this issue already.  Everyone in the class action gets $25 itune coupon and the lawyers keep the other $25 per pop if they win.

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Originally Posted by ipen View Post
I think lawyers are gathering iphone users for a class action suit on this issue already.  Everyone in the class action gets $25 itune coupon and the lawyers keep the other $25 per pop if they win.

 

Suit gets dismissed before it’s finished being drafted, everyone shuts up.

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I am a consumer and a big fan of APPLE.

The Apple Board should seriously be questioning TIM COOK. What a disservice to such a great brand and to loyal customer base. This just proves no one can run Apple like Steve. Apple should assist it customers with a role back. My iPAD has lost it richness and quality in the interface and is suffering greatly. Tim the best thing you could do for the Apple brand right now is to admit Apple Inc. has made a serious mistake and assist all those who trusted Apple in getting their appliances back on track.

You know something has gone way wrong when your children are complaining about the interface, loss of storage and awkwardness of iOS7. I became their worst enemy. How do you tell your kids you can't put it back the way it was? Apple should provide roll back options--it's just part of IT.

Sad, but this lack of quality assurance undermines the companies most valued goodwill, TRUST.
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I am a consumer and a big fan of APPLE.

The Apple Board should seriously be questioning TIM COOK. What a disservice to such a great brand and to loyal customer base. This just proves no one can run Apple like Steve. Apple should assist it customers with a role back. My iPAD has lost it richness and quality in the interface and is suffering greatly. Tim the best thing you could do for the Apple brand right now is to admit Apple Inc. has made a serious mistake and assist all those who trusted Apple in getting their appliances back on track.

You know something has gone way wrong when your children are complaining about the interface, loss of storage and awkwardness of iOS7. I became their worst enemy. How do you tell your kids you can't put it back the way it was? Apple should provide roll back options--it's just part of IT.

Sad, but this lack of quality assurance undermines the companies most valued goodwill, TRUST.

Your comment is BS. iOS 7 is a successful overhaul to the interface with many new features. iOS 6 is dated in comparison in terms of both look and usability.
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Except that phone isn't running iOS 7.

Yes, that's a little too "Microsoft, we know best" for me. How'd that happen? I was asked permission before any download of an OS took place. Even in iTunes I just got a notification that an iOS update was available and I had to click to start the process.... not due to any settings I consciously  have chosen recently anyway...

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Originally Posted by AppleQA
I am a consumer and a big fan of APPLE.

 

Go away. Rule #4

 
The Apple Board should seriously be questioning TIM COOK.

 

Rules #45 & 46

 

This just proves no one can run Apple like Steve.

 

Rules #45 & 46

 
My iPAD has lost it richness and quality in the interface and is suffering greatly. 
 
Rules #12 & 28
 
Tim the best thing you could do for the Apple brand right now is to admit Apple Inc. has made a serious mistake

 

Rule #50

 
You know something has gone way wrong when your children are complaining about the interface, loss of storage and awkwardness of iOS7.

 

Rule #51

 
Apple should provide roll back options—it's just part of IT. Sad, but this lack of quality assurance undermines the companies most valued goodwill, TRUST.

 

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