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Originally Posted by waldobushman View Post

There are two iOS 7 app problems which have yet to be fixed.

Both iBook and Kindle apps lag in handling an open book. That is, I have the app running with a book open, then switch to a different app, then come back to either iBook or Kindle. Both hang temporarily, the screen blanks, a spinner appears, then the current book page. Because both apps do this, I expect it is an iOS problem. I haven't seen a problem with the Nook app.

The second app that is having problems is GoodReader. It crashes, fairly consistently, and I have inundated the develop with the log file it generates. They are still debugging the problem.

How do you switch? I just opened iBooks to an open book page, double clicked the home button to display my other open apps, clicked on music and it smoothly transferred to that display, then double clicked the home button again and clicked on iBooks' icon and it smoothly moved that display back over the screen. Just did the same with Kindle, smoothly moved to the new screen each time, back and forth...

post #42 of 194
Seriously, if USA Today hadn't just about lost me with it's lousy interface on Web and IOS devices, and it's sophomoric reporting in the political arena, this undocumented article with half truths and the ever present "Steve Jobs" reference...has done it. Deleting the app from my devices tonight.
post #43 of 194

I use IOS7 on two iPhone 4's, and two iPad's and it is terrific, classy and fast.  

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Oh and what "everything" is "white"? Other than the background in settings I guess which is white....

Compare all the built-in apps to their iOS 6 counterparts.

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post #45 of 194
If your stocks apps crash it's iOS 7. If 3rd party apps crash it's because the developer hasn't updated it or stillin working in changes. Not apples fault other then maybe giving more time to devs to update.
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I am practically an Apple household, with all combinations of iPhones, iPads, Macs etc that we have used for years. And I have used iOS since its first version. It has never been an issue for me.

Until iOS 7.

I have had more crashes & strange behaviors with iOS7 on my iPhone 5 than any other version ever. Applications just don't respond to touch and instead crash (randomly), keystroke entry freezes up or is delayed interminably and then the app crashes - the two main kinds of issues I have experienced.

So USA Today may be onto something. The only way for Apple, a great product-making company if ever there was one, to be that is for the consumer base to be honest in their observations of their shortcomings when they have them. Too much of fanboy'sm never helps. And constantly comparing iOS7 and Android and making everything relative is a disservice to both, and honestly not very helpful to the user communities.
post #46 of 194
Boycotting anything from them personally.
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Seriously, if USA Today hadn't just about lost me with it's lousy interface on Web and IOS devices, and it's sophomoric reporting in the political arena, this undocumented article with half truths and the ever present "Steve Jobs" reference...has done it. Deleting the app from my devices tonight.
post #47 of 194
1. Who the * reads USA Today?
2. Have they seen Windows 8?

The only nagging problem I've noticed is that the unlock animation seems to block interface interaction for the last few milliseconds of the icons sliding into place. Especially when I try to unlock and immediately slide up the control center to use the camera or clock app. Might have to tap one more time than I'd like.

Big whoop.

What, are you going to trade all your devices in for Windows Phones and a Galaxy Tab?

I didn't think so.
post #48 of 194
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Maybe you can outline for us what the tech media is allowed to write about. Should we all stick to paraphrasing PR and consultant reports?


You’re not getting enough of that elsewhere? I can send you some links if you’re jonesing for more paid propaganda. 

I'm sure that seemed a lot more scathing and brilliant in your head. Shame you wrote it down though.
post #49 of 194
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I have not upgraded yet on my phone. iPad mini yes but haven't really gotten used to it yet. One question for those with iOS 7 on iPhone 5, is the new pass code screen as easy to operate single handed? It seems so spread out that it might require two handed input. I like the iOS 6 passcode screen because it is compact and easy to enter holding in one hand and using the thumb. Just curious how others have adapted to the new pass code layout.
I've medium glove sized hands and my righthand thumb easily works the passcode keys on a iPhone 5. Maybe hit an Apple store and check out the spacing for yourself if there's one nearby?

I find I get fewer one-handed mistakes with the iOS 7 pass code screen. The space between numbers helps my accuracy and the numbers are still easily reachable.
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I think this is the most bizarre conspiracy article I've ever seen on this site.

 

Out of half a dozen people quoted, this article focuses on one of them because he worked at a group that (in their list of 300+ companies who have used their services in the past) had contact with Google and Samsung. Therefore, they must have control over the company and everyone in it, and obviously paid this guy to say a few sentences about the iOS 7 launch. Then the article goes on an unrelated tangent and starts foaming at the mouth about Android (which has nothing to do with whether or not the iOS 7 launch was problematic). And finally, there's utterly irrelevant stuff about security flaws in Android (again: this has nothing to do with the topic at hand, any more than potential iMessage issues are relevant to Android rollouts).

 

Honestly, this article is a caricature of fanboyism. It's on par with (if not worse) with the "journalism" of the USA Today. If you're going to criticise bad journalism, try and do it without descending to their level (or better still, ignore it: any criticism draws further attention and gets it more views).

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Did you do a clean fresh install when installing iOS7?  Or did you just update?  Or did you do an update and restore?

 

About 85% of the problems you are having I would bet are because you just updated and all of your old settings are in your phone from a restore.

Try this.  Restore your phone to factory in iTunes and then set it up like it is new out of the box.  Don't restore your settings with iTunes.

If you do I would bet that most of your problems go away.

My wife's iphone 5 had issues too and after doing what i suggested here almost all of her problems went away.  The only one she has now is that sometimes iMessage does not send her messages, and Apple is working on a fix right now for the next update.

I'm wondering how many people with problems have taken them to the local Apple Store to have someone look at their device.   I think the problems might be with SOME of the 5's and they just might need to do a restore and the 5s's that have a defective sensor (only some have defective sensors from what I've heard).  Any time a new major update comes out, it usually takes about 3 to 4 months before the major issues get resolved.   Heck, Windows 8 isn't getting a major fix until about a year later.

post #52 of 194
It's a real missed opportunity for humanity what has happened with Android. After all the problems people had for years with desktop computer security, app phones were a chance to start fresh and have security built in from the beginning. Apple did that with their curated App Store, sandboxed apps, and timely patches.

What did Google do with Android? Anything goes in terms of apps, slow patches, and the choice of Java as their primary programming language: a platform that has more security holes than Swiss cheese. Just a shameful waste of an opportunity.
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Meanwhile a mediocre U.S. Blogger has compiled a scathing rebuttal claiming android is frought with issues although it provided no actual metrics of the issues..........

Slow news day.

He did provide links to articles justifying his statements. Those can be construed as metrics.

 

Slow comments day.

post #54 of 194

Funny, I'm using 7.0.2 and having no issues and loving it. Another hit piece to try and scare investors.

post #55 of 194
Can I sign up for ObamaCare using iOS 7?
post #56 of 194
I always experience a diminished battery life during the first few weeks of an iOS update - on my iPad; but, my wife doesn't with her iPhone.

The difference in experience is simple. I'm a retired cranky old geek and end up spending increased time experimenting, finding my way through all the new nooks and crannies of the new OS. My wife has her iPhone with her at work has to keep up her usual level of work and accomplishments.

After a month or so I'm back to habitual use levels.

BTW, everything else is working fine. Including the apps I've used through a couple of upgrades.
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I have owned every model of iPhone ever made except the iPhone 5C. I always loved iOS and it got better with each new version. I hate iOS 7 because of the look. The new flat interface is terrible. Graphics are gone, everything is white. Everything looks like a cheap web interface. I love Apple but I hope Jony Ive gets a wake-up call. He's great but made a very ugly GUI. Everyone I know hates the look too. I hope Jony can correct his mistake.

I'm partially with you on this as well. There are certain design aspects I like very well. But you got it right... Way too much white. Too much white is ugly, hard on the eyes, and difficult to read text (especially the thin iOS 7 text).
post #58 of 194
I usually like DED'S debunking of Reports and figures that are investigative but this article really seems a bit overly apologetic, and full of non sequitur tangents. When the article is full of vague complaints of the other guys it tells you something.... Distraction.

Also really weird to keep pushing how fast iOS 7 is being adopted when there is an article a few stories down stating the opposite.
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post #59 of 194
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I find I get fewer one-handed mistakes with the iOS 7 pass code screen. The space between numbers helps my accuracy and the numbers are still easily reachable.

So true. I used to hit the emergency button all the time with my pass code in iOS 6.
post #60 of 194
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The OS is possibly corrupted from repeated restores from previous phones? Bad code builds up over time and I've been told the 5 is more sensitive due to it's higher performance...  A way around that is to do a "clean" restore  (not from the possibly corrupted backup copy on your computer) and then sync the phone (which doesn't install an OS just your stuff). Or I expect it might be a particular bad actor app or apps that isn't 7 compatible yet. Have to say my 5 never exhibited that behavior in general, though the Washingtonpost app would occasionally quit for a few days until it was updated. But in general amongst the 127 apps I have there was no issue.

Thx - I did see few others providing a similar suggestion.  I do expect every software to have some bugs & irritability issues, but my general point was I have noticed iOS7 to be more problematic for me than 6 or 5 were.  In each case, I have carried over the previous version backup, so strange that it should be an issue with 7.  Interestingly, WaPo, Facebook, and a few other apps like Cricinfo - all of which have been updated for 7 - are the ones that crash more often.

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When the article is full of vague complaints of the other guys it tells you something.... Distraction.

 

This would describe almost every DED article ever written on AI.

post #62 of 194
A dying newspaper begs for attention by slamming a highly popular and successful operating system.
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I'm partially with you on this as well. There are certain design aspects I like very well. But you got it right... Way too much white. Too much white is ugly, hard on the eyes, and difficult to read text (especially the thin iOS 7 text).

There are things I like and don't like about iOS 7. That was true of iOS 6 as well.

I'm chiming in for a couple of reasons. I find the white background and text easy to read. If you don't, have you tried any of the following:

— Inverting screen colors;
— Using a different color background in apps (iBook) that provide it;
— Varying screen brightness;
— Changing text size;
— Enbolding text using Settings?

There are a couple of things about iOS 7 that I cannot stand, compared to iOS 6. First is the inability to delete albums in iTunes. Second is the limited number of views available in the Calendar app and the awkwardness of getting to them. I particularly dislike the lack of a full week's view. Reminders is similarly awkward yet improved also.

I have noticed that Siri sometimes does not respond. And, in a more interesting note, I have seen my screen expand and offset by 10 or so pixels, making it seem like it has shrunk physically. Most curious, however, was the increase in size of app icons when I was using a soft cloth to wipe off the screen. The apps increased in size such that I could only see a quarter of the screen. It was not scrollable and, when I tried a screen capture, the resulting image was normal.

A simple reboot/hard reset corrected all issues.

Overall, I much prefer the added functionality of iOS 7 even while not liking all of its visible design features.
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So when these problems
come out it seems like the world is
ending when in fact it just has a few
bugs," said Kiran Bellubbi, CEO of
Applauze - iOS7 has recieved its fair share of criticism but mainly because naturally people resist change and even a slight miss can tick you off!
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I upgraded my iPhone 5 to iOS 7. One of the things I'm finding is when I am on a call the proximity sensor fails, and I start to ear dial. Very annoying.    

post #66 of 194
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I have owned every model of iPhone ever made except the iPhone 5C. I always loved iOS and it got better with each new version. I hate iOS 7 because of the look. The new flat interface is terrible. Graphics are gone, everything is white. Everything looks like a cheap web interface. I love Apple but I hope Jony Ive gets a wake-up call. He's great but made a very ugly GUI. Everyone I know hates the look too. I hope Jony can correct his mistake.

I keep hearing people say they own every iPhone , Mac house hold and all that. Care to post a picture with your mac gear? You could google my name and you should see every mac I ever own (not including those that I use)

You hate some thing? Don't use it then. Mr Jony the I is her member of her majesty. Back just 100 years ago. The way you talk will cause the life of your entire household, and you will be hang in public. Please read some history.

You should be so glad you just born not long ago, child.
post #67 of 194
A dying newspaper begs for attention
by slamming a highly popular and
successful operating system.
All they're doing is looking for attention
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There are two iOS 7 app problems which have yet to be fixed.


Both iBook and Kindle apps lag in handling an open book. That is, I have the app running with a book open, then switch to a different app, then come back to either iBook or Kindle. Both hang temporarily, the screen blanks, a spinner appears, then the current book page. Because both apps do this, I expect it is an iOS problem. I haven't seen a problem with the Nook app.


The second app that is having problems is GoodReader. It crashes, fairly consistently, and I have inundated the develop with the log file it generates. They are still debugging the problem.
How do you switch? I just opened iBooks to an open book page, double clicked the home button to display my other open apps, clicked on music and it smoothly transferred to that display, then double clicked the home button again and clicked on iBooks' icon and it smoothly moved that display back over the screen. Just did the same with Kindle, smoothly moved to the new screen each time, back and forth...

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post #69 of 194
I'M SHOCKED!!!!

Someone actually READS USA Today?

I had no idea. I just use it to pick up dog poop.
post #70 of 194
I have never had problems with iOS 7. It works perfectly, is very elegant and I would never return. I just bought a new iMac. It works wonderfully. No issues. I use it for video production and photography. I look forward to Mavericks, new versions of Final Cut Pro X, Aperture. Next week I will buy a new iPad, the bigger one. I prefer the bigger one as I need extra storage capacity. 128Gb is excellent to me. And the new camera will be perfect. I use the iPad a lot, all the video and photography Apps are extremely inspiring. In short, to me everything from Apple works 100% and I love their products. I started using Apple products in 2003 and from that moment on, my creative life has changed for ever. Thank you, Apple, for all your marvellous products.
post #71 of 194
My wife and both have iPhone 4's. I updated mine to iOS 7 but she left hers in iOS 6. I run geekbench 2 to see if there was any difference in performance an they both came out almost identical, iOS 7 coming out slightly faster. Although I prefer some of the older apps such as calendar and notes the new control centre and safari more than make up for these. All in all I am very happy with iOS 7.
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I had noticed this about USA Today for sometimes now.  They print a lot of biased crap.

I just deleted their App from my iPad.  I recommend others to the same.

 

Regardless of what they print, iOS is available for everyone to try and choose for themselves.


Edited by AppleSauce007 - 10/19/13 at 2:53am
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I have had iOS since the iPhone 3GS and yes, for me, iOS 7 is the buggiest yet.
Besides the famous bugs, I also had a few bugs that were not publicised and, trolling forums for solutions, I discovered a large community of angry apple users...
An example? Hanging sync. Never had this issue before. Luckily fixed with a restore.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3375382?start=285&tstart=0
Here is a page I found that might be of interest for iPhone 4/4s users:
http://readwrite.com/2013/10/15/ios-7-fixes-iphone-4-4s#awesm=~okHL2RaAuC2MF5

But it's not only bugs... I would argue that iOS 7 is currently intended to please american users with the latest phones... out of the few new functionalities, airdrop (https://discussions.apple.com/message/23078708#23078708) and iTunes radio (only available in the states) did not make it to my european iPhone 4s. So iOS is not as exciting to me as it can be to others, that's a fact.
As for the sluggishness of the OS on an iPhone 4s and the fact you can't revert (http://www.extremetech.com/computing/167450-downgrading-from-ios-7-to-ios-6-why-apple-wont-let-you), this alone will force me to upgrade my phone. So if this was the intention. Congrats, you did it.
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post #75 of 194
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I have owned every model of iPhone ever made except the iPhone 5C. I always loved iOS and it got better with each new version. I hate iOS 7 because of the look. The new flat interface is terrible. Graphics are gone, everything is white. Everything looks like a cheap web interface. I love Apple but I hope Jony Ive gets a wake-up call. He's great but made a very ugly GUI. Everyone I know hates the look too. I hope Jony can correct his mistake.

What do you mean everything is white? The OS takes on the personality of your desktop wallpaper. If you do not like the color scheme pick a different wallpaper.

Moreover, everything is hardly flat. The GUI's animations make the OS feel layered. I have been using Apple products most of my 40 year life, and with the exception of the initial release of OSX, I have never been so happy with an update. The attention to detail is phenomenal.

My only complaints are with Siri and Maps. Siri's functionality is improved in terms of what it can do, however, Apple has to speed it up. The delay sometimes is too long, and it should not rely on the Internet for things like setting a reminder. I also really like Maps, and have never been given improper directions. However, Apple's reliance on Yelp for Point of Interest data sometimes results in not enough information being displayed and POI info is corrected slowly.
post #76 of 194
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I have had iOS since the iPhone 3GS and yes, for me, iOS 7 is the buggiest yet.
Besides the famous bugs, I also had a few bugs that were not publicised and, trolling forums for solutions, I discovered a large community of angry apple users...
An example? Hanging sync. Never had this issue before. Luckily fixed with a restore.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3375382?start=285&tstart=0
Here is a page I found that might be of interest for iPhone 4/4s users:
http://readwrite.com/2013/10/15/ios-7-fixes-iphone-4-4s#awesm=~okHL2RaAuC2MF5

But it's not only bugs... I would argue that iOS 7 is currently intended to please american users with the latest phones... out of the few new functionalities, airdrop (https://discussions.apple.com/message/23078708#23078708) and iTunes radio (only available in the states) did not make it to my european iPhone 4s. So iOS is not as exciting to me as it can be to others, that's a fact.
As for the sluggishness of the OS on an iPhone 4s and the fact you can't revert (http://www.extremetech.com/computing/167450-downgrading-from-ios-7-to-ios-6-why-apple-wont-let-you), this alone will force me to upgrade my phone. So if this was the intention. Congrats, you did it.

It stinks some features are not released worldwide yet, however, I am using ios 7 on an iPhone 4 currently as I am selling my other newer models. The OS is perfectly functional. It rarely feels sluggish. Of course, Apple has toned down the animations quite a bit on the iPhone 4. Perhaps a factory restore will solve some of your issues.
post #77 of 194
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My wife and both have iPhone 4's. I updated mine to iOS 7 but she left hers in iOS 6. I run geekbench 2 to see if there was any difference in performance an they both came out almost identical, iOS 7 coming out slightly faster. Although I prefer some of the older apps such as calendar and notes the new control centre and safari more than make up for these. All in all I am very happy with iOS 7.

That is my experience in terms of speed as well. The iPhone 4 works just as well if not better with iOS 7 then it did iOS 6. Perhaps some processing intensive apps change the equation around, but I rarely had any performance issues. That is not to say, I do not really prefer the animation tweaks in newer models.
post #78 of 194
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Originally Posted by Kevin Robin View Post

I have had iOS since the iPhone 3GS and yes, for me, iOS 7 is the buggiest yet.
Besides the famous bugs, I also had a few bugs that were not publicised and, trolling forums for solutions, I discovered a large community of angry apple users...
An example? Hanging sync. Never had this issue before. Luckily fixed with a restore.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3375382?start=285&tstart=0
Here is a page I found that might be of interest for iPhone 4/4s users:
http://readwrite.com/2013/10/15/ios-7-fixes-iphone-4-4s#awesm=~okHL2RaAuC2MF5

But it's not only bugs... I would argue that iOS 7 is currently intended to please american users with the latest phones... out of the few new functionalities, airdrop (https://discussions.apple.com/message/23078708#23078708) and iTunes radio (only available in the states) did not make it to my european iPhone 4s. So iOS is not as exciting to me as it can be to others, that's a fact.
As for the sluggishness of the OS on an iPhone 4s and the fact you can't revert (http://www.extremetech.com/computing/167450-downgrading-from-ios-7-to-ios-6-why-apple-wont-let-you), this alone will force me to upgrade my phone. So if this was the intention. Congrats, you did it.

 

Bingo. My dad, a totally non-techie person, has been complaining from day one (after inadvertently "upgrading" to iOS7) about wi-fi issues that he never had before, impossibility to use Mail, weird UI paradigms and so on...another collleague of mine at work has been trashing it for its terrible battery life, the fact that mailbox accounts are forcibly merged etc...and people still that the USAT is just trolling... ;) 

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post #79 of 194
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I'M SHOCKED!!!!

Someone actually READS USA Today?

I had no idea. I just use it to pick up dog poop.

The stick them free in front of a lot of hotel doors.
post #80 of 194
I've also seen some bugginess. People, is a major system release.

For an update made on day one of the release tho, it's been incredibly well sorted. And most bugs I've seen happen on third party apps.

I normally don't update OSX until the .1 release. And the Mac installed user base is a fraction of that of iOS.

So big whoop. Bug fixes will come, which will work for most. The "alternative" is a huge, solid bug of ugly, slow and useless. I can deal with this.
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