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At the release of iPhone 5c and 5s, Apple announced it would begin throwing in free copies of its Pages, Numbers, Keynote, iPhoto and iMovie apps. It now says (in text that has since been removed from its website) it will add a free copy of Garage Band, too, with In App Purchases of instruments and sounds.

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Apple's Built-in Apps page for iPhone 5s highlighting "Apple apps on the App Store. Free of charge. Full of possibilities," was changed today to depict iPhoto, iMovie, Garage Band, Keynote, Pages and Numbers with new iOS 7-style icons.

As this article when to press, Apple removed mention of Garage Band (appearing in full below) among the free apps. The screen cap above depicts that the images had been swapped out before the page was fully updated. [Update: the icon images have since been changed back to their original iOS 6 appearance.]

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A report by Mac Rumors pointed to text that has since been removed from the site that originally stated, "GarageBand is free on the App Store for all iOS 7 compatible devices; additional GarageBand instruments and sounds are available with an in-app purchase."

Last week, Apple added the revamped iOS 7-style icons for the apps in an iCloud settings page. However, neither the apps nor their icons have been updated in the App Store, suggesting that a revamp might come with the Apple Event scheduled for Tuesday October 22.

In a footnote, Apple currently states that "iPhoto, iMovie, Keynote, Pages, and Numbers are free on the App Store for qualifying iOS 7 compatible devices activated on or after September 1, 2013. See www.apple.com/ios/whats-new/ for iOS 7 compatible devices."

The slip appears to indicate that Apple plans to take Garage Band free, but charge an IAP for some licensed content. Apple also presents Pages, Keynote and Numbers, with new iOS 7-style app icons but no apparent update in their features or user interface, which still reflects iOS 6-style textures and buttons.

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Apple is also expected to update its desktop versions of iLife and iWork apps, which haven't seen a major version update in some time. Among the features that Apple is likely to include in a future Mac update for iLife is support for new formats captured by iPhone 5s, including SloMo editing and Burst Capture imports.
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I hope Apple gets around to releasing a meaningful update to iWork on the Mac on Tuesday.

I can't believe that they've essentially ignored it for almost 5 years!
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Not a smoking gun but certainly an indication that Mac OS X could become free as a way of saving Apple money.
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Not a smoking gun but certainly an indication that Mac OS X could become free as a way of saving Apple money.

Could you imagine OSX and iWork being free? That'd be interesting to say the least.

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Well, it’s official. I hate Pages’ new icon. And Keynote’s bland. Even Numbers’ icon showed just how different it was from every other spreadsheet application available. Now? Pheh.


Hopefully they keep them the same on OS X. Not that it matters; I’d just change them back manually. :p

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Well, it’s official. I hate Pages’ new icon. And Keynote’s bland. Even Numbers’ icon showed just how different it was from every other spreadsheet application available. Now? Pheh.

Hopefully they keep them the same on OS X. Not that it matters; I’d just change them back manually. 1tongue.gif

They do look reminiscent of placards you might find next to doors or hallways in an upscale tropical resort hotel.
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One thing about the new iOS 7 icons: they’re not designed to be mesmerizingly detailed with beautiful intricate details. They’re designed to function as icons. 

 

The purpose of an icon is not to be a beautiful canvas for a work of art that captures the attention of your eye and holds on to it. It is to provide a readily apparent "iconic" representation that allows you to rapidly distinguish between them.

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One thing about the new iOS 7 icons: they’re not designed to be mesmerizingly detailed with beautiful intricate details. They’re designed to function as icons. 

The purpose of an icon is not to be a beautiful canvas for a work of art that captures the attention of your eye and holds on to it. It is to provide a readily apparent "iconic" representation that allows you to rapidly distinguish between them.

I agree with purpose of icons but I wonder why Apple made the clock icon continually show the exact time down to the second.
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I would really like this news if they didn't make my 5s blue screen. 

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I hope Apple gets around to releasing a meaningful update to iWork on the Mac on Tuesday.

I can't believe that they've essentially ignored it for almost 5 years!

 

What do you want? A Ribbon interface? :smokey:

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Well, it’s official. I hate Pages’ new icon. 

 

You could say they've drawn the line on tasteful icons. :lol:

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I like the new icons. I wasn't a fan of the skEWWW!

It's like classical home styling vs contemporary home styling. I like nice clean and simple design. I don't like ornate crap.
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Not a smoking gun but certainly an indication that Mac OS X could become free as a way of saving Apple money.

 

Spare me. OS X doesn't cost Apple money. They profit off its sale.

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I like the new icons. I wasn't a fan of the skEWWW!

It's like classical home styling vs contemporary home styling. I like nice clean and simple design. I don't like ornate crap.

 

To each their own. We aren't living in 2bit gray scale, in a world of flat. Skewww is attempting to make icons look like real life equivalents. Quality iconic design being 2D has its place. Now if they'd dump the frosted white glass look which gives us the fru-fru look I'd know then that Jony was removed from wrongly being put in charge of the HIG.

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Spare me. OS X doesn't cost Apple money. They profit off its sale.

Nothing in my comment suggested they don't make money off of OS X. My comment suggests that there is a tipping point where offering OS X for free could save Apple money (read: make them more money) than selling it, the same way that selling at a continually lower price-point was a financially viable move.
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Could you imagine OSX and iWork being free? That'd be interesting to say the least.

We'll see on Tuesday but my money is on OS X 10.9 being very inexpensive but not free. The funny thing about humans is they often undervalue free stuff. However, that is the least of their problems to be sure.
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Not a smoking gun but certainly an indication that Mac OS X could become free as a way of saving Apple money.

Not a chance OSX will be free. Apple uses an accounting method that allows it to bring new features to ios devices for free. It does not do this for Macs. Further is charging twenty dollars unreasonable? I never bought upgrades when they were $129. Now I do not think twice about it. Finally, even if Apple changed its accounting method for makes to allow for free upgrades on new Macs, I do not see how giving it away free helps Apple make money. The cell phone market is highly competive and the free ios apps give Apple an edge.
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I agree with purpose of icons but I wonder why Apple made the clock icon continually show the exact time down to the second.

 

That’s how clocks work. It’s also not distracting detail, and you don’t notice it unless you start at it.

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To each their own. We aren't living in 2bit gray scale, in a world of flat. Skewww is attempting to make icons look like real life equivalents. Quality iconic design being 2D has its place. Now if they'd dump the frosted white glass look which gives us the fru-fru look I'd know then that Jony was removed from wrongly being put in charge of the HIG.

Design is a bit like a war, the winner re writes history. I am a European that moved to the States 25 years ago and laughed at male 'yanks' wearing silly long shorts at the beach. Today as I lay on the white sands of Siesta Beach, Florida I found myself seeing Europeans in speedos as looking very odd. 1biggrin.gif
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Spare me. OS X doesn't cost Apple money. They profit off its sale.

It's a good thing all the people who work on it work for free then, otherwise it would cost Apple money.

Hang on.
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It's a good thing all the people who work on it work for free then, otherwise it would cost Apple money.

Hang on.

 

He means “the development and sale of OS X isn’t a net loss for Apple”, not that “it costs no money to develop and sell OS X”.

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I'll mourn the day OSX is iOS-7inzed.
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Not a chance OSX will be free. Apple uses an accounting method that allows it to bring new features to ios devices for free. It does not do this for Macs.

And how did that happen? They choose to create the model just as they added it to the iPod Touch after some paid updates. Furthermore, your absolute comment that it won't happen is just as foolish as Ireland's that it will. Neither of you have any inside knowledge of what will happen.
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Further is charging twenty dollars unreasonable? I never bought upgrades when they were $129. Now I do not think twice about it.

I don't get this. What do my personal feelings about was is reasonable or not have to do with Apple's decision to profit? I never thought $129 was unreasonable and never missed an update. Also note the updates were every few years on average so that $129 you thought was too much was really closer to $40 year.

I also think it's only been with Mountain Lion that it was under $20. I think with Lion it was just under $30.

Finally, I know several people that simply haven't updated in years because they simply feel they don't need the update because they don't know what benefits it will offer. It it was free and popped up like OS X updates saying "Hey there is a new update you may want to install" they would likely do it, but they don't, regardless of how inexpensive you or I feel it is.
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Finally, even if Apple changed its accounting method for makes to allow for free upgrades on new Macs, I do not see how giving it away free helps Apple make money. The cell phone market is highly competive and the free ios apps give Apple an edge.

Here are the 3 primary reasons that would positively affect users, 3rd-party devs, and Apple if the numbers work out for this to happen, just the numbers worked out for this to happen when moving to ever lower prices over the last several releases.
  • It's a value added when making a decision to buy a Mac which could increase sales. How many OS X sales need to be made to equal one new Mac sale?
  • Like iOS, it can help developers target a more congealed OS platform version which can make for better and lower priced apps that can task a developer's resources less. Just look to iOS if you don't that's a possible.
  • Apple's support costs will be substantially lower by having more devices on the same OS version.

You can say you don't think this will happen but you look foolish saying it can't possibly happen, stating that Apple benefits from the price tag more than those bulleted items despite those being in effect each and every time they have lowered the price, and ignoring that Apple has already given away SW they used to sell. If you honestly don't think Apple can have a net benefit by making SW free of charge then you need to tell me why they would possibly make Work free of charge since your argument is clearly that some direct profit is better than no direct profit in the grand scheme of things.
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That’s how clocks work. It’s also not distracting detail, and you don’t notice it unless you start at it.

Why would I look for and stare at an icon of a clock to get the time instead of simply looking at the top of the Status Bar?
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To each their own. We aren't living in 2bit gray scale, in a world of flat. Skewww is attempting to make icons look like real life equivalents. Quality iconic design being 2D has its place. Now if they'd dump the frosted white glass look which gives us the fru-fru look I'd know then that Jony was removed from wrongly being put in charge of the HIG.

If the new look worked better that would be one thing.  ugly I can put up with.  But the new look does not work better for most human beings, and that is the result of putting Mr. Ive in control.  He wants the look but cannot possibly fathom why and how the new look makes it more difficult.  If he would just look into an airplane cockpit, maybe he would understand then.

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Question:  Were these iLife apps the ones that were causing crashes for some people?  Or did I misinterpret that?

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You probably would not.  But the majority of the world conceptualizes analog time more quickly (even though digital is more accurate).  That's why most watches are analog.

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You probably would not.  But the majority of the world conceptualizes analog time more quickly (even though digital is more accurate).  That's why most watches are analog.

No, the majority of the world does not read the current time faster on a 58 point wide icon hidden on one your Home Screens and possibly stuffed in a folder faster than looking at the huge digital display on the lock screen or the almost always available time on the Status Bar.
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The funny thing about humans is they often undervalue free stuff.

And underestimate free stuff when it comes to Google.
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I think the points that akqies makes concerning why essentially everyone would benefit from OSX being free make a lot of sense.  I've been wondering if they would just drop the $19.99 and go to free for Mavericks, as well.  Granted, that's just me speculating.  But I wouldn't be surprised if they did.

 

Also, as to clock thing, I had completely forgotten, until this thread, that it correctly displays the time.  And I use it nearly every day to set an alarm (unless I use Siri -- which is probably somewhere around a third of the time).  But all I do is click on the folder, click on the icon, and so forth.  So I never actually look at the icon.

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I don't see garageband available for free like I did for the other apps after buying my 5S.  Is it supposed to be free now?

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I don't see garageband available for free like I did for the other apps after buying my 5S.  Is it supposed to be free now?

It's not free, but apparently will shift to being a free download with IAP. at least that's what the apple website said today for a few minutes.

News on Tuesday likely
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Not a smoking gun but certainly an indication that Mac OS X could become free as a way of saving Apple money.

Please explain how making OSX free would save Apple money.

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Please explain how making OSX free would save Apple money.

 

He did.

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I guess I care more about the functionality of these apps than what the icons look like. For instance will these iWork apps have collaboration like functionality to compete with Google Now? Will these apps be good enough to finally be the nail in Microsoft's coffin, especially with Office not being optimized for touch? The least important thing to me is what the icons look like.
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Be nice if these were actually free rather than "Free For A Select Few"
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I agree with purpose of icons but I wonder why Apple made the clock icon continually show the exact time down to the second.

I would imagine that someone at Apple found a way to have it animated with little to no overhead otherwise it would be static.
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If the new look worked better that would be one thing.  ugly I can put up with.  But the new look does not work better for most human beings, and that is the result of putting Mr. Ive in control.  He wants the look but cannot possibly fathom why and how the new look makes it more difficult.  If he would just look into an airplane cockpit, maybe he would understand then.

You do not speak for humanity, Mr. Airplane Pilot. You're making it clear that you're missing a piece of brain hardware that Sir Jony's got.
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Back to the substance of this leak... FANTASTIC! In-app purchases for GarageBand? ABOUT BLOODY TIME! I'd like all-new guitars, new amps modeled on the real things (like the AmpKit app), I'll be glad to pay for clever new inventive interfaces for other instruments as well...I've been dying for some decent wind instruments (horns, reeds), some kind of vocal synthesis options that aren't totally cheesy, and keyboards experimenting with new ideas like Animoog...or, or, or how about give me the ability to buy those brilliant drums from Logic Pro for real, intelligent accompaniment! The mind boggles. Perhaps the new GarageBand even incorporates Audiobus (or better) cross-app integration so I won't have to jump through hoops to add another app's instruments to a new track? And how about giving me the ability to use wi-fi to connect and play along with my desktop GarageBand? That would make it even more powerful and useful for jamming.

I'm prepared for disappointment on most of these "requests" but they would be nice!
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And how did that happen? They choose to create the model just as they added it to the iPod Touch after some paid updates. Furthermore, your absolute comment that it won't happen is just as foolish as Ireland's that it will. Neither of you have any inside knowledge of what will happen.
I don't get this. What do my personal feelings about was is reasonable or not have to do with Apple's decision to profit? I never thought $129 was unreasonable and never missed an update. Also note the updates were every few years on average so that $129 you thought was too much was really closer to $40 year.

I also think it's only been with Mountain Lion that it was under $20. I think with Lion it was just under $30.

Finally, I know several people that simply haven't updated in years because they simply feel they don't need the update because they don't know what benefits it will offer. It it was free and popped up like OS X updates saying "Hey there is a new update you may want to install" they would likely do it, but they don't, regardless of how inexpensive you or I feel it is.
Here are the 3 primary reasons that would positively affect users, 3rd-party devs, and Apple if the numbers work out for this to happen, just the numbers worked out for this to happen when moving to ever lower prices over the last several releases.
  • It's a value added when making a decision to buy a Mac which could increase sales. How many OS X sales need to be made to equal one new Mac sale?
  • Like iOS, it can help developers target a more congealed OS platform version which can make for better and lower priced apps that can task a developer's resources less. Just look to iOS if you don't that's a possible.
  • Apple's support costs will be substantially lower by having more devices on the same OS version.

You can say you don't think this will happen but you look foolish saying it can't possibly happen, stating that Apple benefits from the price tag more than those bulleted items despite those being in effect each and every time they have lowered the price, and ignoring that Apple has already given away SW they used to sell. If you honestly don't think Apple can have a net benefit by making SW free of charge then you need to tell me why they would possibly make Work free of charge since your argument is clearly that some direct profit is better than no direct profit in the grand scheme of things.

agreed.

 

Plus, they would take a lot of wind out of Microsoft who relies on paid Windows and Office updates. I think consumers do see the value package: Higher initial cost, sure, but with creativity and productivity apps included, free updates and longer support.

If Microsoft fails to move into the mobile device market, they will increasingly become a platform and server company for b2b. However, I doubt they'll fail. They might become the third major player eating away some shares from Android. 

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