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post #41 of 69

Got it. I wasn't thinking right. I was thinking 3rd quarter (Jul-Sept), not Apple's fiscal third quarter. 

post #42 of 69
WOW, and these clowns on Wall Street get paid for this incredible insight. What a joke.
post #43 of 69
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Apple was out of touch on the 5c. It will be blunder of major proportion if they blow the iPad Retina mini release.

If Apple drops the ball and fails to release the iPad mini Retina, the fiasco with the fugly colored 5c will pale in comparison, AAPL will drop to the low 4s, and Tim Cook should be shown the sidewalk post haste.


Why do you even bother posting?

http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/10/21/ipad-2-remains-apples-most-popular-tablet-iphone-5c-demand-growing

post #44 of 69
It will be the best ipad they have ever made and it will be just incredible. Theres no rumour here, that's what it will be 1smile.gif it always is ;p
post #45 of 69
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Tallest, head over to c|net and search user Scott_Wilson. Rabid troll posts in every single Apple related article. Apparently has decided to branch out into Apple centric forums now. It's going to get real ugly real quick. Mark my word. 


The best thing CNet did ( but could do better) is essentially shut down the ability to post comments on (big) headlines until the article has been around a while.  I suspect it had to do with idiot trolls like ScottWilson.  At least I can read articles now and not read the putrid cesspool of comments from this jerk.

However, the moment they open it up, he's usually one of the first to piss in the pool.

post #46 of 69
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However, the moment they open it up, he's usually one of the first to piss in the pool.

 

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post #47 of 69
Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post
 
 In his recent trips to Taiwan and China, he's been told the new iPad will be about 15 percent thinner and as much as 30 percent lighter than the current fourth-generation iPad.

 

If this is true, the 5th gen iPad must have an IGZO-based LCD (or OLED) touchscreen.

Or maybe Apple has massively advanced their battery technology.

 

And I would be extremely surprised if the 5th gen iPad doesn't get an A7X SoC and Touch ID sensor.

Apple has always put the latest AXX SoC in each year's "big" iPad.  Should happen again this year.

 

But will the 2nd gen iPad mini get the A7X?  I think Apple might upgrade the iPad mini with last year's A6X.

That would give it enough CPU and GPU to easily drive a Retina display, if Apple puts a Retina display in it.

And, of course, an A6X would mean no 64-bit processing and therefore no Touch ID.

 

The iPhone 5C has last year's A6 SoC and iPhone 5 hardware.  The iPad mini might also be on

the 1-year-old SoC track, so maybe the 3rd gen iPad mini would get the A7X and Touch ID next year.

Who knows?

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post #48 of 69
First the most important iOS7 and iPhone update in years, now the most important iPad update in years!

And then the most important OS X update in years! And then the most important MacBook Pro update in years! When will it end?

And supply's will suck only 3 each of these will be available!!! Apple is Doomed!!!

My iPhone 5s and buying both a new MacBook Pro & iPad the moment their available proves this!
post #49 of 69

Intel Bay Trail Z3770 + Windows 8.1 tablets are $499 or less.  

The Bay Trail devices might not have the same graphics performance as the A7X, but the software and API support of a complete version of x86 Windows can eclipse anything iOS can offer.  You can run software from AutoCAD to Foobar2000 to Photoshop to Steam and games like Half Life 2 or Starcraft 2.  USB3.0 support allows you to connect and utilize any USB device at high speeds. Potential for an active digitizer can make navigation of the UI for advanced programs or note taking a breeze.  

Not really sure what Apple can do with an A7X + iOS 7 to better that.

post #50 of 69
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If this is true, the 5th gen iPad must have an IGZO-based LCD (or OLED) touchscreen.

 

Sharp's new Bay Trail tablet (Mebius Pad) has a 10.1 inch 2560x1600 IGZO display with an active digitizer.  


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So I could imagine a high resolution IGZO display is a possibility for an iPad 5.

post #51 of 69
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What are the chances that 32GB becomes the new minimum?

That would be a very smart move. New, refined case, faster processor and more storage. Same price. I believe that would move the needle. Thoughts?

post #52 of 69
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What a joke. iPad 1 was unusably slow. iPad 2 has been the most important update since iPad 1 - all iPads after 2 and 2 included have been usable.


iPad 1 was proof of concept! Damn, what's your problem?

 

Yes, it's limited... Mine is topped out at iOS 5. Apps I can't use from my iPhone5 and iPadMini.

 

Otherwise perfectly fine for browsing the internet/reading articles, reading iBooks and using Pages, etc.

post #53 of 69
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That would be a very smart move. New, refined case, faster processor and more storage. Same price. I believe that would move the needle. Thoughts?

That would seem reasonable, just about every Bay Trail tablet has 32GB, 64GB or 128GB with microSD.

16GB is on the way out for tablets.

post #54 of 69
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Hear! Hear!
I'm telling this again: WSJ DON'T DESERVE SERIOUS AUDIENCES.

Look at their news about Google's Moto. Almost a 25% lost YOY and what is the headline? What do you think is the headline if Apple lost money 25% YOY?

Might Google Have a Sly Motive Behind Motorola?
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303672404579147624149283910

Give me a break really.

Not only is there "no evidence that Motorola is pushing down prices," as the article writes, but Motorola also hasn't lowered its own prices. The Moto X sells for around $600 which is comparable to the price of most other high-end smartphones.

post #55 of 69
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And still I don't care.

And nobody cares about your lack of caring.
post #56 of 69
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Originally Posted by island hermit View Post

3rd quarter sales were down 27% yoy.
There's quite a simple reason for that, which I expect no-one is taking into account.

3Q last year, the "New" iPad (or iPad 3) had only been announced a few months earlier, and it could be expected that the next refresh would be in March or April this year. Then they held their October Surprise announcement, with the iPad 4.

This year, the iPad 4 is getting on for a year old, no other version has been announced, and it's generally considered that the iPad 5 will be out in October. So people who might have been looking to buy an iPad in 3Q this year are more likely to hold off until after the October announcement.

We see this happen again and again with Apple when they move announcements. Moving the iPhone announcement from June to September meant that sales in August that year were down. People are willing to hold off a few months just to make sure they get the latest device. It's not unique to Apple, but with Apple it tends to be seen as another sign of their impending doom.

Apple Death Watch: Now in its 38th year.
post #57 of 69
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There's quite a simple reason for that, which I expect no-one is taking into account.

3Q last year, the "New" iPad (or iPad 3) had only been announced a few months earlier, and it could be expected that the next refresh would be in March or April this year. Then they held their October Surprise announcement, with the iPad 4.

This year, the iPad 4 is getting on for a year old, no other version has been announced, and it's generally considered that the iPad 5 will be out in October. So people who might have been looking to buy an iPad in 3Q this year are more likely to hold off until after the October announcement.

We see this happen again and again with Apple when they move announcements. Moving the iPhone announcement from June to September meant that sales in August that year were down. People are willing to hold off a few months just to make sure they get the latest device. It's not unique to Apple, but with Apple it tends to be seen as another sign of their impending doom.

Apple Death Watch: Now in its 38th year.

Right on, brotha! The other thing? Percentage alone does not tell the story.
post #58 of 69
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There's quite a simple reason for that, which I expect no-one is taking into account.

3Q last year, the "New" iPad (or iPad 3) had only been announced a few months earlier, and it could be expected that the next refresh would be in March or April this year. Then they held their October Surprise announcement, with the iPad 4.

This year, the iPad 4 is getting on for a year old, no other version has been announced, and it's generally considered that the iPad 5 will be out in October. So people who might have been looking to buy an iPad in 3Q this year are more likely to hold off until after the October announcement.

We see this happen again and again with Apple when they move announcements. Moving the iPhone announcement from June to September meant that sales in August that year were down. People are willing to hold off a few months just to make sure they get the latest device. It's not unique to Apple, but with Apple it tends to be seen as another sign of their impending doom.

Apple Death Watch: Now in its 38th year.

I think the Q3 you are talking about is not the same Q3 others are referring to.

post #59 of 69
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I think the Q3 you are talking about is not the same Q3 others are referring to.
If not, then I can only plead ignorance as to when it is. My timing may be off, but I think my logic is still sound.
post #60 of 69
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Originally Posted by RobertSmith View Post
 

What are the chances that 32GB becomes the new minimum?

 

I know that most people are streaming most things so local storage is less important, but it would be nice to carry around one's photo library as well and not need to rely on a network connection.


I was trying to post like yours then I saw your post.  Two more things that Apple can do to make the new iPad the most important, TouchID and gps chip in wifi models.


Edited by tzeshan - 10/21/13 at 3:45pm
post #61 of 69
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I have a friend who's a cripple. He's lying flat on his ass basking in the glory of his past...

And I'm yeling "get the hell up and walk!"

post #62 of 69
The upcoming iPad 5 will blow the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 edition out of the water.
post #63 of 69
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What a joke. iPad 1 was unusably slow. iPad 2 has been the most important update since iPad 1 - all iPads after 2 and 2 included have been usable.
 


iPad 1 was proof of concept! Damn, what's your problem?

 

Yes, it's limited... Mine is topped out at iOS 5. Apps I can't use from my iPhone5 and iPadMini.

 

Otherwise perfectly fine for browsing the internet/reading articles, reading iBooks and using Pages, etc.

IPad 1 was not slow in its own right, and only seems slow now when run side by side with newer iPads.

post #64 of 69
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Originally Posted by StruckPaper View Post
 

IPad 1 was not slow in its own right, and only seems slow now when run side by side with newer iPads.

 

We still use our iPad 1 daily. Works great for email and surfing.

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post #65 of 69
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Not only is there "no evidence that Motorola is pushing down prices," as the article writes, but Motorola also hasn't lowered its own prices. The Moto X sells for around $600 which is comparable to the price of most other high-end smartphones.

Yes, it's even worse on the Verge article.

"But if Motorola continues to slide, Google may eventually be forced to write down the cost of the $12.5 billion acquisition — and its investors could clamor for the company to scuttle what has so far been a painful experiment into the world of mobile hardware.Looking at the purchase I’m still scratching my head about why they did it,” says Avi Greengart, the research director for consumer devices at Current Analysis, “and how they see it playing out going forward.”"

 

Sly, or Evil.. it's just a wet dream of WSJ writers who seem to worship all things the big G did even it's a clear failure.

post #66 of 69

If the iPad 5 has specs >= the iPhone 5s, it will be a winner.

 

The graphics on the 5s are amazing. If they make it even faster (for the bigger screen), clock the processor a bit faster (more room for cooling) and maybe go from 1GB to 2GB RAM, the iPad 5 will laugh in the general direction of any other tablet.

post #67 of 69
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Originally Posted by LAKings33 View Post

Intel Bay Trail Z3770 + Windows 8.1 tablets are $499 or less.  


The Bay Trail devices might not have the same graphics performance as the A7X, but the software and API support of a complete version of x86 Windows can eclipse anything iOS can offer.  You can run software from AutoCAD to Foobar2000 to Photoshop to Steam and games like Half Life 2 or Starcraft 2.  USB3.0 support allows you to connect and utilize any USB device at high speeds. Potential for an active digitizer can make navigation of the UI for advanced programs or note taking a breeze.  


Not really sure what Apple can do with an A7X + iOS 7 to better that.

Do you mean besides not using HALF of available storage to run the OS?
post #68 of 69
The consumers are more important than the investors. The consumers have put over 145 billion into Apple's pocket. What have the investors done that can compare? Ok, the investors put up the initial seed money but at the end of the day the consumer is the real investor and they aren't trying to short the f****** stock!
post #69 of 69
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We still use our iPad 1 daily. Works great for email and surfing.

Know what it's great for? I have a 64 gb one. Load it up with movies for the 2-3 round trip car trips we do each year (about 15 hours each way, each).

Of course, I have since picked up a Seagate Wireless Pro (1 TB), but the original iPad keeps on ticking.
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