Originally Posted by auxio
ok, so now we get down to what really motivates your beliefs -- personal experience. And I will never argue with that.
Here's my personal experience (which is just as valid as yours). When I was younger (post-secondary age), I met some really brilliant people who I credit with help breaking me out of the thinking I had developed as a child (from my very limited experiences and the outlook of my parents). They were very well-read in philosophy, history, art, politics, and raised questions about the statements I made, forcing me to think more deeply about them and find what I truly believed, and really find evidence in the world (historical writings, world events, etc) to support my beliefs. Similar to what a scientist does for a scientific hypothesis, but for a personal belief system.
Existentialist, social, political philosophy, the connections to art/music/expression, the foundations of technology and the balance of logic/mathematics/structure with creativity. This was the 'trip' that lead me to become who I am today. It was not the American media's portrayal of kids throwing away their lives. In fact, it was the exact opposite: it was a factor in helping me find mine. I can imagine that living around Berkeley in the late 60s/early 70s would have been a similar experience for many during that time -- an intellectual journey which helped influence the mindset which drove the personal computing revolution (create tools, create your own world).
So that covers one part of the picture. The other is that my family didn't have a lot of money growing up. We weren't poor, but certainly I went into debt for the opportunity at post-secondary education. This in a country where tuition at a decent school is substantially less costly than it is in the US (though getting closer each year). I honestly don't know if I would have had the same opportunity living in the US.
So anyways, I had to make do with learning using whatever technology I could get my hands on growing up. I definitely couldn't afford Macs, and often hacked together machines out of whatever PC components I could afford. Which actually turned out to be a great journey of learning how computer internals work (necessity is the mother of invention). And this is where I can relate to the Hackintosh community -- the exploration/learning with what you have side of it, not the illegal business end of it.
This is the side of life which you don't see because your experiences seem to be solely related to creating and maintaining businesses. In my limited experience of the business world, I can definitely understand where you are coming from (it's a real ethics free-for-all, to put it nicely). However, what you don't realize is that, in the vast majority of cases, it's not the people who are spending countless hours learning about computer hardware who are creating businesses around the sale of Hackintosh machines (where would they find the time?), it's the unethical investors who see an opportunity to make money off of them.
And yes, there are certainly technology people who make a career out of working for these unethical investors because of some misguided anger towards society. Kinda like there was in the late 60s, but without the constructive outlets (protests, creating tools for self-sustainability in an attempt to break away from society, etc). I can only imagine what would have happened to the Steves had they found someone willing to fund their blue-box business...
I grew up with people that had an education and they had friends that had lots of education, PhD's in psychology, physics, mechanical engineering, etc., etc. etc. etc. etc. All the top people in whatever discipline was presented around me. I wasn't given a Mac by my parents, I have always PAID for my own. Sometimes, I bought used because I couldn't afford new. My parents only paid for books and tuition to college. Living expenses were my own doing. I had to work full time making low wages while attending night school for 4 years. I had also taken another 4 years to finish one of my degrees as I invested money along the way (Microsoft/Intel mostly) that helped pay for living expenses, etc. I've been broke to the point where I had no money to eat food for a month and had to literally go through garbage cans looking for food. Talk about BROKE. I have been more broke than you, so quit your whining. Have you ever had a job where upper management was doing things that were illegal and unethical and it affected YOUR ability to do YOUR job and then you get a call from the CEO of the company you work for and on the line is the VP of Legal, VP of HR, COO, and VP of Marketing on a conference call telling you not to talk to the media about some specific things that were going on and then the CEO tells you that your job is not in jeopardy and then the next day your manager fires you for nothing that you've done wrong or written up about? And then you find out years later that they tampered with your personnel files and that you can sue a TON of RICH alcoholic as swipes for everything they have, but you don't have any money to hire an attorney, or can't an attorney to take your case and your parents won't help, even though they could?? And as a result you can't get a job because of what they are saying behind your back?
So right now, I have what ever money I have from however I have it (legally mind you) and if I want to buy some decent stereo system to listen to higher quality music on my iMac but I don't have megabucks to do it, but I can afford $2000, then I think I'm entitled to do so.
I have had other people that were SUPPOSED to be my friend that turned out that they did other things that violated my civil rights where I can sue LITERALLY about 30 companies for copyright infringement, but some of the cases are only worth $7500 on up to $1.5 Mil or more, but I don't have the money to get an attorney or can't find a decent one willing to take my case, or I just simply don't want the extra stress of suing RICH companies that HAVE the money to pay the settlements.
Or about a bank that tried to withheld $140K of your money illegally or doing other things preventing your access to large sums of YOUR money and you're not doing anything wrong or illegal? they just figured out a way to lie to me and get away with it unit l can find an attorney that won't gouge me for 33% when they don't need to spend much time on the case.
Now, I know people grow up in different environments, etc. Some people have and some people don't. If you don't, then don't worry about what other people that do have. There are people that like good stereos, cars, boats, etc. etc. I don't try to conjure up BS to try to put someone down because they want to spend $100 Million on boat, when I would NEVER do that, even if I did have that amount of money.
To try to damage someone's reputation because they sell cables costing thousands of dollars calling it snake oil because some of the TOP recording studios or mega buck stereos use them seems to me like they AREN'T snake oil. A recording studio RARELY buys something expensive just to show off, they buy it because THEY hear the difference and THEY buy LOTS of equipment that they thought was great one day and not the next. You should see what some studios like OceanWay has in their arsenal of equipment that may get used once a year by someone. It's ridiculous to some, but not to others.
So if you don't like how much someone ELSE spends on money, then keep it to yourself or THINK about WHY they might spend that money. If it's just because it's got gold plating and diamonds on it, that's for show. But if it's the internal workings, build quality, design, limited production, etc., then it's not. Yeah, the big buck systems are 50% for sound/quality and 50% for show because as long as you are buying something that expensive, it might as well LOOK expensive. That's partly how SOME companies sell product. Some don't. Some are ugly as sin, but sound and are built like tanks. It's all in what someone wants and is wiling to pay for.
So, what's your point? somehow, as tear jerking as your story is, it's not so significant to me. Got it?