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Following Apple's announcement of retooled iLife and iWork apps for both iOS and OS X on Tuesday, the company has started rolling out the new software to users via the App Store.

App Roundup


For the launch of OS X 10.9 Mavericks, Apple redesigned its iLife suite of apps, including iPhoto, iMovie and GarageBand, as well as the iWork suite, which features Pages, Numbers and Keynote. The titles are now available for download on both platforms.

The new apps will be made free to new iOS and Mac device buyers, as well as users who purchased the software via the App Store. Both OS X and iOS versions retain the usual respective $19.99 and $4.99 price tags seen before the update.

iLife



For iLife, iPhoto nabs 64-bit support as well as iCloud sharing and user interface tweaks. To bring the title in line with the iOS 7 version, filters applied to photos are now supported in-app. Also included is a host of bug fixes from the software's previous version.

iPhoto


With the iOS version of iPhoto, Photo Books are now available for iPad. The new feature allows users to layout photos taken from a device's camera roll and lay it out in a book, which can be sent to Apple for printing. Also available are pro-quality prints in a variety of sizes, including square and panoramic.

iMovie


iMovie for OS X received a substantial working over, including a new UI that makes library browsing easier than before. The desktop version also has close ties with iOS devices, including support for movies shot with the new iPhone 5s' slo-mo feature. A centralized sharing service called iMovie Theater lets users compile clips, movies and trailers and share them with friends. A simplified drag-and-drop control scheme has also been implemented for inputting pictures and other content, while more templates and themes have been added.

The iOS iteration of iMovie also has hooks into the new Theater sharing service, while new enhancements like a full-screen video browser, new title styles and transitions, slow motion support and special effects like cutaway, picture-in-picture and split-screen, round out the package. The app is also 64-bit compatible for the new A7 processor.

GarageBand


Finally, GarageBand for Mac has been updated with an all-new look and sound library with fresh instruments and samples. The highlight feature, as shown onstage during Tuesday's special event, is a virtual session drummer that can adapt to directions with realistic beats. There are 15 players to choose from over a variety of genres, including rock, alternative, R&B and more.

GarageBand for iOS now supports 64-bit, like the new iPads, and can create songs with up to 32 tracks on A7-equipped devices. Other notables include the ability to drag-and-drop audio recordings to create samples and compatibility with Apple's AirDrop file transfer protocol.

iWork



As part of the biggest upgrade to iWorks Apple has made in recent years, the company's suite of productivity apps has been overhauled with a fresh new look and deep cross-platform integration between OS X Mavericks and iOS.

Pages


Pages for Mac brings an even simpler aesthetic to the already spartan word processor. Collaborative tools have also become a big part of the new software suite, and Pages is no exception, with read and write access granted to coworkers via iCloud.com. Over 60 Apple-designed templates are now available, while a new format panel automatically updates content based on selection. Styles and presets have been added, as well as new 2D bubble charts.

On iOS, Pages brings compatibility with the unified file format that allows users to create a document on a portable device, and edit it on a desktop or laptop. The same 60 templates from the Mac version are available for iOS users, while text formatting and other important usability assets are designed to be a tap away. With the constrained space of an iOS device, some menu items had to be moved, though the overall functionality is still there. AirDrop support is also offered, as is document sharing via iCloud.com. Finally, powerful graphs and animated content can be created on the go, a new feature for the latest version of Pages for iOS.

Numbers


Numbers for Mac focuses on simplifying the workflow of creating and editing graphs and charts with an all new look and UI. The app gains the new format panel seen in Pages, as well as a filter panel to sift through large tables of information. Tab navigation is also new, while the smart cell view allows for live forumla results, error checking, exact value and cell formatting. As with Apple's other offerings, new templates and styles, including interactive charts, have been added.

The iOS version of Numbers offers much the same in the way of charts and graphs, but adds a new calculation engine for faster performance. AirDrop support is built in, as is iCloud.com collaboration.

Keynote


Finally, Keynote for Mac includes the new format panel, but adds updated cinematic transitions and animations as well as updated Magic Move animations. The layout has been tweaked for ease of use, and the unified file format found in all iWork apps is supported.

Keynote for iOS brings new themes and animated interactive data charts to the presentation app. In addition, AirDrop and universal file format support is baked in.
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First impressions of new iWork for OSX is that it looks pretty but will take some time to adjust. The toolbars at the top now appear to be non user customisable which will be a significant change for my workflow (burying in menus stuff that I use regularly like Masks in keynote). I've also opened some legacy documents in Pages and found that background images are un-editable - actually unselectable (at present).. I'm sure there's some trick to it there but it's not clear what's the go. I assume these changes are to make the 'in the cloud' options all the same. My 2c from about 15 minutes of play. I'm glad they are updated but hope that the existing full functionality hasn't been sacrificed for continuity/similarity across all platforms. We shall see.. Keen to hear other's thoughts and experiences.
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Originally Posted by Fischstarr View Post
The toolbars at the top now appear to be non user customizable…

 

OOH, you’re right. That’s gonna get fixed REAL quick when people complain.

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Played with Numbers for a bit. Graphs and images are now easier to insert. Still missing Pivot table and inline formula argument suggestions, so hard core number crunches like me are not going to use it to... well, crunch numbers.

The GUI redesign brings it closer to the iPad version. It's not the best interface for a desktop app, but neither was the one before. I'm keeping the older version around just in case I don't like it enough,
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By and large I always like Apple's SW updates. These look good to me. The best thing about Pages and Numbers is the professional looking charts. I'm not a numbers cruncher, but the cool looking charts I'm able to create make me look like I know what I'm talking about.

 

I hate Word and Excel. I would prefer to use iWork any day of the week! :)


Edited by christopher126 - 10/22/13 at 4:50pm
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A FYI on iMovie 10.0 released today, if you have a Mid-2007 iMac. Mavericks installed just fine, but iMovie says the graphics card does not support it, so it won't download an install. IPhoto worked, but GarageBand hasn't shown up for upgrade yet, so I don't know if it will work.
 

I'm not impressed. I thought Mavericks would optimize my Mac enough for all of the new iLife apps to work but apparently not.

 

My iMac has the ATI HD Radeon 2600 Pro 256 MB graphics card. I would think that would run iMovie if even at a slower rate given that Mavericks installs and runs quite nicely.

I do hope that the new iMovie might be supported with a point update. Should I hold my breath? Sigh....

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OH TEH NOEZ! GARAGEBAND IS STILL SKEW OH MORE FICK! APPLE DOOM!

 

Of course the real takeaway here is that it’s 64-bit and delicious. Finally I can finish everything I’ve wanted to do for a long time…

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Originally Posted by GregoriusM View Post
 

A FYI on iMovie 10.0 released today, if you have a Mid-2007 iMac. Mavericks installed just fine, but iMovie says the graphics card does not support it, so it won't download an install. IPhoto worked, but GarageBand hasn't shown up for upgrade yet, so I don't know if it will work.
 

I'm not impressed. I thought Mavericks would optimize my Mac enough for all of the new iLife apps to work but apparently not.

 

My iMac has the ATI HD Radeon 2600 Pro 256 MB graphics card. I would think that would run iMovie if even at a slower rate given that Mavericks installs and runs quite nicely.

I do hope that the new iMovie might be supported with a point update. Should I hold my breath? Sigh....

 

Quite possible that the new iMovie relies on grand central dispatch technologies to offload rendering operations to the GPU requiring a newer GPU than your iMac has. It's unfortunate that a six year-old machine is being obsoleted, but that's not bad the way Apple has been going lately...

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Originally Posted by djames4242 View Post

Quite possible that the new iMovie relies on grand central dispatch technologies to offload rendering operations to the GPU requiring a newer GPU than your iMac has. It's unfortunate that a six year-old machine is being obsoleted, but that's not bad the way Apple has been going lately...

 

I would have thought though that if my iMac was updateable to the latest OS, that the entire machine would be supported. I guess not?!!!?

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Originally Posted by GregoriusM View Post

I would have thought though that if my iMac was updateable to the latest OS, that the entire machine would be supported. I guess not?!!!?

 

OS ≠ application. iMovie is not Mavericks.

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post
 

OS ≠ application. iMovie is not Mavericks.

 

Greg ≠ happy

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Originally Posted by GregoriusM View Post

Greg ≠ happy

 

Hey, the Radeon 2600 HD isn’t exactly top of the line hardware anymore.

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Do we finally get password protected iWork documents in iOS? Do we have to run iOS 7 to use these updated versions?
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The new iLife/iWork suite might run nicely but 6 year old machines not supported is not fun, but I guess almost every IOS device is 6 years or newer.
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@ TS

 

Well, apparently if you click on Update beside iMovie 10.0 a dozen times, and get an error message a dozen times, over the space of an hour, and then just leave the Mac App Store app open for another half hour, it decides to download the iMovie 10.0 app all by itself and install it.

 

Opened it. Works fine!

 

Greg = happy!

 

:-)

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Shame iWeb was dumped. A new version in line with the rest of iWork would have been pretty cool. I have Dreamweaver and a host of other Web design apps but I can still do a lot in minutes in iWeb that takes a long time in anything else.
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That has got to be a bug. I run Final Cut Pro X on the same iMac.

 

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Originally Posted by GregoriusM View Post
 

A FYI on iMovie 10.0 released today, if you have a Mid-2007 iMac. Mavericks installed just fine, but iMovie says the graphics card does not support it, so it won't download an install. IPhoto worked, but GarageBand hasn't shown up for upgrade yet, so I don't know if it will work.
 

I'm not impressed. I thought Mavericks would optimize my Mac enough for all of the new iLife apps to work but apparently not.

 

My iMac has the ATI HD Radeon 2600 Pro 256 MB graphics card. I would think that would run iMovie if even at a slower rate given that Mavericks installs and runs quite nicely.

I do hope that the new iMovie might be supported with a point update. Should I hold my breath? Sigh....

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Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post
Shame iWeb was dumped.

 

That was 2006, though. :p

 

At least it still works in Mavericks. 

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Originally Posted by bdkennedy1 View Post
 

That has got to be a bug. I run Final Cut Pro X on the same iMac.

 

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregoriusM View Post
 

A FYI on iMovie 10.0 released today, if you have a Mid-2007 iMac. Mavericks installed just fine, but iMovie says the graphics card does not support it, so it won't download an install. IPhoto worked, but GarageBand hasn't shown up for upgrade yet, so I don't know if it will work.
 

I'm not impressed. I thought Mavericks would optimize my Mac enough for all of the new iLife apps to work but apparently not.

 

My iMac has the ATI HD Radeon 2600 Pro 256 MB graphics card. I would think that would run iMovie if even at a slower rate given that Mavericks installs and runs quite nicely.

I do hope that the new iMovie might be supported with a point update. Should I hold my breath? Sigh....

 

See my post above about how it downloaded and is working, although it still shows 1 Update even though iMovie shows as Updated. If I click on Update All, it gives me the same error message about iMovie 10.0, which is nicely running on my iMac.

 

As I said above: Greg = happy :-)

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I'm still frustrated that iPhoto for the Mac still doesn't have the same feature suite as for iOS. All I really wanted was the auto horizon detection on the desktop. Oh well hopefully they'll have a better method to keep your photo libraries synced between the iPad and Mac but I doubt it 

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Originally Posted by GregoriusM View Post
 

@ TS

 

Well, apparently if you click on Update beside iMovie 10.0 a dozen times, and get an error message a dozen times, over the space of an hour, and then just leave the Mac App Store app open for another half hour, it decides to download the iMovie 10.0 app all by itself and install it.

 

Opened it. Works fine!

 

Greg = happy!

 

:-)

I had a few issues with having to click in different spots (i.e. going to the "installed" portion instead of updates, and in some cases actually going as if I were to purchase it in the "Mac Apps" section of the app store)

 

However, I have an '09 Mac Mini and got Mavericks, iLife and iWork updates for free.

 

Not long before that Mac Mini I had an iBook, and was paying $150 for the OS and $70 for the i-suite products.  This 600 dollar mini is certainly getting stretched a lot further than I expected it to.

 

EDIT: to gush a little more, what other tech company would ever allow someone who bought the cheapest product they produced (at the time) almost five years ago to get the latest productivity/OS for FREE?  It really is pretty telling that - though they charge a hefty premium for their premium devices - they don't appear to simply be greedy as many anti-appelites try to paint them

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So those of us who bought iLife and iWork in a box - the only option seems to be $90 worth of buy-again at the Mac App Store for Pages, Keynote, Numbers, iMovie and iPhoto. Or am I missing something?
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So does collaboration only work between iWork on the Web Beta users, or also between Pages users in the program?

 

I've also found iMovie on iPhone to be very interesting to play with while out, but would only find it truly useful if I could also take a partially made project from my phone and open it on my computer to fine tune it. Anyone know if it does that?

 

Will answer myself once I've played :)

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Gregoriusm: you guessed right. It's very reasonable to exclude a 6 years old machine if the new version relies on new technology. It's why Office (which is a great alternative for you) is bloated with old technology by comparison and doesn't really try innovate. Which makes sense given the fact Office needs to run on about every machine in the world.
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Originally Posted by jpellino View Post

So those of us who bought iLife and iWork in a box - the only option seems to be $90 worth of buy-again at the Mac App Store for Pages, Keynote, Numbers, iMovie and iPhoto. Or am I missing something?

 

The App Store automatically detected my boxed version of iWork and my pre-app store bundled iLife and asked me to associate them to my account during the free upgrade process. For some reason, it didn't detect Garageband, but when I manually installed it, it automatically moved the old version and acted like I already paid for the extra sounds.

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Just had to post to say even though I have no qualifying new Mac, I have now had free updates to the complete iWork as well as iLife suite (both bought as boxed versions). Not expected at all but thank you Apple. Also got the new Aperture with support for video on iCloud, awesome. Now I am expecting Logic Pro X to get an update any time soon so it too can save to iCloud. Quite an exciting evening!

Just one request: Please Apple add collaboration between different Apple ID users for your music apps as well as iWork.
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I had a few issues with having to click in different spots (i.e. going to the "installed" portion instead of updates, and in some cases actually going as if I were to purchase it in the "Mac Apps" section of the app store)

However, I have an '09 Mac Mini and got Mavericks, iLife and iWork updates for free.

Not long before that Mac Mini I had an iBook, and was paying $150 for the OS and $70 for the i-suite products.  This 600 dollar mini is certainly getting stretched a lot further than I expected it to.

EDIT: to gush a little more, what other tech company would ever allow someone who bought the cheapest product they produced (at the time) almost five years ago to get the latest productivity/OS for FREE?  It really is pretty telling that - though they charge a hefty premium for their premium devices - they don't appear to simply be greedy as many anti-appelites try to paint them



I agree. I am sitting here with a 2010 15" MBP i7 that I put in a 256 GB SSD plus a 1TB HD, maxed out the RAM and ripped out the Optical. Now with free Mavericks, free iWork updates and free iLife updates (plus Aperture). It seems like Christmas came early. Amazing! Utterly amazing (and let's not forget all the free iOS versions too).

Even though I am ordering a Mac Pro, I now intend to keep the MBP too. Normally I sell old Macs when I upgrade as they are starting to feel 'old' but this now feels like a new Mac and I am damned if I will part with it now!

Only thing left for Apple to do is allow a second bite at Extended Applecare. I'd happily fork out for another two or three years now the first one is expiring on my MBP.
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I thought this stuff was only free for new hardware purchases but I was able to download it on my iPhone 5 running iOS 7 for free. What gives?
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I thought this stuff was only free for new hardware purchases but I was able to download it on my iPhone 5 running iOS 7 for free. What gives?

Yep same here on iPhone 4S and 5. Not to mention iWork is also free on old Macs (I assume if you have the old boxed version installed as I had).

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That was 2006, though. 1tongue.gif

At least it still works in Mavericks. 

Whenever it was dumped it remains a shame. Yes i am glad it still works but ... Imagine, editable header data, save as and open recent (multiple sites in single files ... no need for iWebSites), client user update areas widgets, full iWork and iLife hot integration for live updates and saving to iCloud with collaboration development available! (I am talking about on genuine hosting not hosting via anything from Apple). Then buy Hype and build it in.

All the above wouldn't take Apple very long to implement either I am sure.
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post #31 of 43

Apple need to rethink the OSX logos of Numbers, Keynote, Pages, iBooks, iTunes, iPhoto and Safari. They look bland and uninspiring.

 

I actually prefer the flat look of iOS7.

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Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post

Yep same here on iPhone 4S and 5. Not to mention iWork is also free on old Macs (I assume if you have the old boxed version installed as I had).

It's Christmas come Early 1smile.gif

That's cool. I wonder if it will work on my 3rd gen iPad? I haven't upgraded it to iOS 7 but am handing it down to someone so for sure will upgrade before I give it away if it means free software. 1smile.gif
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Question:  I use LaTeX a lot and have in the past used LaTeXiT in Pages/Keynote via the Services menu.  It appears that this is no longer supported in Maverics & new Pages/Keynote.  I can still do it in TextEdit, but cannot seem to make it work in the fancy apps. There is an equation editor in iBooks Author and you can download '84 MathType (but seems to not do inline).  Any thoughts?

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What about those of us who purchased Garage Band on iOS? Do we have to repurchase instruments?
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Hope the desktop iWork apps no longer use the Inspector window, and place the options that were there to a pane that uses less screen real estate.

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A bit disappointed in Keynote for Mac OS X. They have taken away my favourite transition (perspective). All told I'm not hugely impressed with the new transitions particularly since Perspective has been dropped. Not sure why. For me Perspective was one of the best slide transitions and now it's gone. Annoying. I doubt it will be brought back and I doubt there is a way to get it back in there again.

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Shame iWeb was dumped. A new version in line with the rest of iWork would have been pretty cool. I have Dreamweaver and a host of other Web design apps but I can still do a lot in minutes in iWeb that takes a long time in anything else.

Totally agree. For quick & easy websites, iWeb was great.

The best feature was that, by putting a slight invisible shadow on text, the font would render automatically on any desktop browser.

Yes I know html5 has this but iWeb was super simple. Guess the black MacBook with snow leopard will be around for a while longer.
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Originally Posted by AlmondRoca View Post
 

Hope the desktop iWork apps no longer use the Inspector window, and place the options that were there to a pane that uses less screen real estate.

 

The inspector window was very small and concise. I'm not sure how they could make it use less real estate and still be usable. However, the inspector pane is now an inspector panel and not only uses more real estate, but you can only have one of them open at a time. It's nice that it is contextual, but (particularly in Keynote) I frequently had more than one inspector panel open at a time.

 

I'm so glad Apple gave us the updates for free. I love Pages and was ready to pounce on the new version for $20. Unfortunately, I don't know that I'll ever use it. They've simply removed too many essential features - rather than updating the iOS versions to increase parity with the OSX versions, they've dumbed down the OSX versions to increase parity with the iOS versions.

 

Pages has lost its page layout mode along with linked text boxes and the ability to shuffle pages. This was my primary reason for using Pages (I rarely create word processing documents, nearly all my work is done in page layout mode) and having lost this functionality means I will continue to use Pages from iWork '09 and will also brush up on my InDesign skills. Pages to me did most of what I needed in a page layout tool more quickly than InDesign and was my go-to tool unless I needed more advanced layout. The new version of Pages no longer works for me.

 

Ah well - for those who need TextEdit Pro, enjoy :)

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Originally Posted by KnightoftheWord View Post
 

A bit disappointed in Keynote for Mac OS X. They have taken away my favourite transition (perspective). All told I'm not hugely impressed with the new transitions particularly since Perspective has been dropped. Not sure why. For me Perspective was one of the best slide transitions and now it's gone. Annoying. I doubt it will be brought back and I doubt there is a way to get it back in there again.

 

Thanks for finding one more reason not to love the new iWork. I loved perspective too!

 

Here's hoping I like the new Numbers at least since I'm not sure I'm going to like Keynote, and I already hate the new Pages... Phhbbbttttd!

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Originally Posted by AlmondRoca View Post
Hope the desktop iWork apps no longer use the Inspector window, and place the options that were there to a pane that uses less screen real estate.

 

Did you watch the keynote? They explicitly do that. More screen space, but it’s much better than the window.

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