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Originally Posted by Bergermeister View Post

Personally, I'm worried about Apple.  My boss is, too.  Just today I was asked to meet on Wednesday with a computer consultant, and was given a name.  The guy works only with Windows machines.

In my Batman voice

WHO IS HE?!!?!

GIVE ME A NAME!!!

WHERE IS HE!?!?

We are waiting with bated breath.

I'm sorry… Honestly… I'm really not trying to attack you.

But what does this have to do with anything? I know many professionals and personal people who only use Mac… But that doesn't say or mean anything about Microsoft and their failures or successes.

Sometimes it's personal preference. Sometimes it's business. If this mystery guy is a business professional, I can see him only using Microsoft because that is the dominant force in many businesses.

Or he's old and he doesn't want to learn two different platforms.

But to say you're worried just because this guy only uses Microsoft… I mean… Really?

Does he have a name in the industry?

Is it Steve Ballmer? LOL

Really we don't know his name, we don't know what he does, but even if I did it wouldn't make a difference. All businesses and products have their hiccups. It's how they treat the customer in the end and how well they recover which I think Apple does exceedingly well.

I say to anyone who's worried...drop apple and go with the rest....

Most likely we will see you back here either way lol

It's true Steve Jobs is gone… And that's a sad thing.

But Apple still has a lot of clout. A lot of professionals that are very creative and talented, And a lot of money. All the factors in turn attracts many new people in the industry and new up and comers. They have a lot of talent on the rise and I think that they are still in a better position than any other company. So Steve Jobs or not, you know you got a look at the Playing field as it stands now and Adjust your criticisms and expectations accordingly.

I don't see this potential in other rival companies at the moment.

I still think without any doubt… That Apple is the best we have out there.

We have to stop comparing them to the Steve Jobs era. Steve Jobs is not with Apple… But then again he's not with any other company either. This is the best we got in my opinion
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Yeah, for now iWork '09 works just fine. Eventually compatibility will break I presume. Maybe not: I'm amazed that iWeb still functions even though it's not been updated since what, Snow Leopard days?

Don't get me going ... I love iWeb (and I have every Mac based Web Dev App in existence including long dead ones such as Go Live). Can you imagine what Apple could do with it now? ... Apple maps, Auto hot links to iWork and iLife files shared on iCloud (via widgets), Collaboration, Header data editing, more and better widgets, HTML5 utilities built in (BUY HYPE APPLE) ...
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post #43 of 83
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I noticed this just this morning when I clicked the old Pages icon in the dock and found that it launched version 4.3. Then I launched Pages from the new icon in the applications folder and had both running side-by-side for comparison. Interesting.

I came this close to deleting them! Glad I didn't for now. Then again I still have Final Cut Studio (FCPro 7) as well as FCPro X ... but that's just me ... 1biggrin.gif
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post #44 of 83
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I'm still digging around hoping these are all there but hidden ... 1hmm.gif

Let me save you some time: They are GONE.
"That (the) world is moving so quickly that iOS is already amongst the older mobile operating systems in active development today." — The Verge
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post #45 of 83
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Don't get me going ... I love iWeb (and I have every Mac based Web Dev App in existence including long dead ones such as Go Live). Can you imagine what Apple could do with it now? ... Apple maps, Auto hot links to iWork and iLife files shared on iCloud (via widgets), Collaboration, Header data editing, more and better widgets, HTML5 utilities built in (BUY HYPE APPLE) ...

 

Just in case this thread hasn't been sufficiently jacked... ;-)

 

I also loved iWeb and used it to create several travel journals and did a little bit of blogging with it. With the integration with MobileMe, it was a rather easy way for average folks to create websites (and this coming from a guy who gets paid to build internal websites using PHP, Java, JavaScript, and AJAX against MySQL). It seemed like a short-sighted decision to kill it. Your thoughts take it even further... It's a nice thought, and it was a nice service while it lasted.

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I still think without any doubt… That Apple is the best we have out there.

We have to stop comparing them to the Steve Jobs era. Steve Jobs is not with Apple… But then again he's not with any other company either. This is the best we got in my opinion

So, you're saying this total trashy release of software is "AS GOOD IS IT GETS" with the new "good enouf" management?

Like with the iMaps screw up, Apple just chums the water with shit and sees if the user base will eat it up.
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post #47 of 83
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This fall's launches are not looking to be Apple's best.  That might be the biggest understatement I've ever made.

 

The Pages thread is 45 pages long with 665 messages detailing a disaster.  

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5473697?tstart=0

 

Keynote, iMovie, Numbers are all getting hammered in the forums and on the store.

 

Though I know the media likes to focus on hardware, Apple is also a very big software maker.  Will AI write an article about software?

 

Overall, I am getting the feeling that Apple is in a post-Steve slump and are stumbling a bit.  Quite a bit?  

 

What a sensational, and troll-worthy post. Is that last line really necessary, tastelessly dragging up SJ whenever you think it helps you make an anti-Apple quip? Or are you one of those people that revise history to pretend everything was honky dory under Jobs, especially software? It wasn't. Not even close. Every piece of Apple software today is SIGNIFICANTLY better than what it was from those days. 

 

As for those threads..and? 665 posts is supposed to imply a disaster? When we're talking about software that is used by millions? How many of those posts detail actual flaws, and how many are whining about change? Some of Apple's biggest and most forward-thinking decisions - that are obviously the right choice in hindsight- were met with the MOST derision, spanning treads containing tens of thousands of posts on Apple's forums. Everything from the launch of the iPad, to the loss of the optical drives, to moving to SSDs, to making batteries non-removable, to dropping firewire, to making OSX updates download-only, to pretty much every single one of their software updates, and every single launch- has been met with massive threads of disappointment. Yeah, what a disaster all those things were in real life, right? Yes, it seems there is an issue with the new MBPs, which I have no doubt Apple will resolve very soon- just like there's been issues with every single product Apple has ever launched throughout the existence of the company, affecting a minority of people. This is to be expected, with the complexity of hardware and software. It will never be 100% flawless, but I definitely don't see this "post-SJ slump" you're referring to. Mavericks for me has been the best piece of software Apple has ever released, and their recent hardware has all garnered excellent critical reviews, the best in the industry. People seem to want to forget just how criticized SJ was on Apple websites.

 

Enough with the hyperbole, and try to gain some perspective. That's what support threads are- a whole lot of bitching. The vast majority of people will never experience these issues, and for those that ARE experiencing them, history tells us that a fix is very shortly forth-coming. 


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post #48 of 83
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Just FYI: Open a Pages doc from iWork '9 that had auto flowing linked text boxes in the new version ... Word to the wise ... sometimes it's worth checking facts before being too adamant. Luckily we all have both versions so it's not the end of the world and I trust Apple will update iWork asap.

What??? TS jumping the gun and ridiculing someone for complaining about an Apple product or software change....instantly pegging them as a troll? We ALL know that never happens...

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post #49 of 83

+1 Hahaha. Could not have said it any better.

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Let me save you some time: They are GONE.

Sorry that was supposed to be pulling TS's leg ... I know they are gone!
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post #51 of 83
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What??? TS jumping the gun and ridiculing someone for complaining about an Apple product or software change....instantly pegging them as a troll? We ALL know that never happens...

I was very restrained you have to admit 1smile.gif

Gotta love the guy though. For every incorrect lambaste he nails ten real trolls.
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post #52 of 83

 I was planning to upgrade my MBP, but I think I'll wait for the next refresh.

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 I was planning to upgrade my MBP, but I think I'll wait for the next refresh.

Why? Mavericks is awesome and solid as a rock. 1smile.gif
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post #54 of 83
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Just in case this thread hasn't been sufficiently jacked... ;-)

I also loved iWeb and used it to create several travel journals and did a little bit of blogging with it. With the integration with MobileMe, it was a rather easy way for average folks to create websites (and this coming from a guy who gets paid to build internal websites using PHP, Java, JavaScript, and AJAX against MySQL). It seemed like a short-sighted decision to kill it. Your thoughts take it even further... It's a nice thought, and it was a nice service while it lasted.

I still use it, it has great built in FTP, just use a standard hosting space ... it's very intelligent too, only uploads changes.
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post #55 of 83
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OK, but you still have the '11 Numbers, right? So not the end of the world. But I agree Apple need to an Excel level app but I'd prefer a pro version and the iWork suite can then stay simple for the average user. A Pro version could then be the Excel killer.

EDit ... I always forget it is iWork '9 and iLife '11. Well I recently learned to say iWork not iWorks so I am making some progress ... 1biggrin.gif

 

I'm not saying there is nothing positive about the Numbers upgrade. It will continue to get better as Apple gets more feedback from professionals. My blunt comments were meant for those who care about Apple providing the best in order to beat the competition. :D

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post #56 of 83
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What a sensational, and troll-worthy post. Is that last line really necessary, tastelessly dragging up SJ whenever you think it helps you make an anti-Apple quip? Or are you one of those people that revise history to pretend everything was honky dory under Jobs, especially software? It wasn't. Not even close. Every piece of Apple software today is SIGNIFICANTLY better than what it was from those days. 

 

As for those threads..and? 665 posts is supposed to imply a disaster? When we're talking about software that is used by millions? How many of those posts detail actual flaws, and how many are whining about change? Some of Apple's biggest and most forward-thinking decisions - that are obviously the right choice in hindsight- were met with the MOST derision, spanning treads containing tens of thousands of posts on Apple's forums. Everything from the launch of the iPad, to the loss of the optical drives, to moving to SSDs, to making batteries non-removable, to dropping firewire, to making OSX updates download-only, to pretty much every single one of their software updates, and every single launch- has been met with massive threads of disappointment. Yeah, what a disaster all those things were in real life, right? Yes, it seems there is an issue with the new MBPs, which I have no doubt Apple will resolve very soon- just like there's been issues with every single product Apple has ever launched throughout the existence of the company, affecting a minority of people. This is to be expected, with the complexity of hardware and software. It will never be 100% flawless, but I definitely don't see this "post-SJ slump" you're referring to. Mavericks for me has been the best piece of software Apple has ever released, and their recent hardware has all garnered excellent critical reviews, the best in the industry. People seem to want to forget just how criticized SJ was on Apple websites.

 

Enough with the hyperbole, and try to gain some perspective. That's what support threads are- a whole lot of bitching. The vast majority of people will never experience these issues, and for those that ARE experiencing them, history tells us that a fix is very shortly forth-coming. 

It's entirely possible that there is some truth to what he is claiming about a post-Jobs Apple. We all know that Steve expected nothing less than perfect and strived for perfection with every aspect of Apple. An objective look at the present-day Apple makes one think about what's going on there. In all honesty and fairness, were there a similar amount of SW & HW bugs and when Steve was still at the helm?

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Originally Posted by Dickprinter View Post
We all know that Steve expected nothing less than perfect

 

But didn’t always receive it.

 
An objective look at the present-day Apple makes one think about what's going on there.

 

Makes you think where people get off thinking Apple was any less perfect then than now.

 
In all honesty and fairness, were there a similar amount of SW & HW bugs and when Steve was still at the helm? 

 

Yep.

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But didn’t always receive it.

Makes you think where people get off thinking Apple was any less perfect then than now.

Yep.

To be honest, in the years since 1978 that I've been hooked on, working for or with or just using Apple ... I'd say they are better now than ever. That's not to say I don't miss Steve and his one more things etc. but Apple Inc. is humming along like never before IMHO.
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post #59 of 83
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But didn’t always receive it.

 

Makes you think where people get off thinking Apple was any less perfect then than now.

 

Yep.

Your answer accomplished nothing more than making me feel (or anyone posting similar) that we are completely wrong....without providing any citations to prove otherwise.

 

So what you're saying is that these questions wouldn't have been raised if Steve was still with us or we would accept them as the norm because all is status quo, before and after Steve's death. In other words we are focusing on the bad and wrongly see more because we're trying to look for places to point fingers?

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Actually, here's what I THINK might be going on.  They had a major announcement date which doesn't change.  And to get all of the hardware/software updates ready on the same date?  Yeah, right.  I think what happens is they give them a date to release new s/w and the developers can't always have everything ready, tested, and with all of the features because a specific release date was mandated by upper management, so they release what they feel most comfortable with (even though features might have been left out or not fully tested) and then they complete everything and THEN they release an update and things get resolved.  I don't know how much better they can do it because of these mandated announcement dates, but MAYBE if we send enough submissions to the feedback, they'll improve.

 

No. I suggest that you try iWork, compare this new version and previous versions before making assumptions. This has little to do with developers not keeping up. This has to do with a conscious decision by Apple to *reset* iWork. Some features have regressed. Some have changed outright. Some folks have compared this to what happened to FCP. Some believe Apple took 2 steps backward on purpose to make iWork consistent across all platforms (iOS, MacOS and iCloud).

 

All to say, let's not make stuff up. :)

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wrong post! lol AI crashes after every edit I make and I answered my self instead of TS after such a crash! Please have this blog fixed AI or tell me how to stop it if it is my Safari 7.0 alone doing this!

Huddler is perfect. It's you're fault. /s

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In all honesty and fairness, were there a similar amount of SW & HW bugs and when Steve was still at the helm?
 

 

Yep.

Do you have a histogram of bugs found within 2 months of every release to back up your "yep"? Would love to see this.

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Huddler is perfect. It's you're fault. /s

*Your* fault. Typically, this egregious error works the other way - substituting *your* for *you're*. Your type of illiteracy is rare. :)

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This fall's launches are not looking to be Apple's best.  That might be the biggest understatement I've ever made.

The Pages thread is 45 pages long with 665 messages detailing a disaster.  

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5473697?tstart=0

Keynote, iMovie, Numbers are all getting hammered in the forums and on the store.

Though I know the media likes to focus on hardware, Apple is also a very big software maker.  Will AI write an article about software?

Overall, I am getting the feeling that Apple is in a post-Steve slump and are stumbling a bit.  Quite a bit?  


Overall I am gettling the feeling you like being first in line to imply Apple’s demise…. yet again….

I think your supposition, beginning with this, "The Pages thread is 45 pages long with 665 messages detailing a disaster.” pretty much ALL comes down to what was posted in the FIFTH post on the first page of that thread (by someone who had already posted a “disastrous!” post previously):

"Actually, I found how to delete page in Pages 5.0 (iWork 2013...), after few minutes of frustration because of not being able to do that the old way.”

Because of not being able to do it the old way. A few minutes of frustration. Right.

Aired out on the Apple Support Forums, so people like you could post elsewhere what a DISASTER the new iWorks and so many other “post-Steve” things are.

OK. It changed. But rather than learn how (and explore why Apple made this decision to change it, which they may grow to appreciate once adjusted for), they race to the boards to “lodge a complaint”.

The new iWork has TENS OF MILLIONS of users already. And a few dozen are taking major issue with the changes. Yes. Read through that “massive train wreck” thread, and you’ll discover it’s a relative few posting over and over, alongside many not-so-terrible issues and lots of attempted solutions… lots of posts and pages of posts make it a “hot” issue, but not necessarily a deeply valid one. Yes. There have been changes. Yes, among those there may be a bug or three to work out. No, it is NOT a “disaster”.

Nor a “trend”.

Please. Finger OFF the panic button. Thanks.
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No. I suggest that you try iWork, compare this new version and previous versions before making assumptions. This has little to do with developers not keeping up. This has to do with a conscious decision by Apple to *reset* iWork. Some features have regressed. Some have changed outright. Some folks have compared this to what happened to FCP. Some believe Apple took 2 steps backward on purpose to make iWork consistent across all platforms (iOS, MacOS and iCloud).

All to say, let's not make stuff up. 1smile.gif

I know that they made tradeoffs in the near-term to make the software fully compatible across all platforms.

I also know that now they have that unification, they can move them all forward again as “one entity”.

If they have sidelined a few features in the near-term to achieve that, you can almost count on those being restored quickly, across all the platforms. Much like FCP.

That said, I’m working with the new iWork daily, making the necessary adjustments, and not feeling like it’s really coming up short. I do see some of the differences being discussed (a couple of sueful features seeming to be “missing”), and I fully expect them to be restored over time, if they are really important.

But you know, Office is bloated with a huge number of features that 98% of people literally NEVER use, but COMPLAIN about when they are removed.. so, I take a great deal of these “I noticed something missing” reports with a grain of salt.

As I said, I use the new software daily, and haven’t had my productivity “broken” by the changes...
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I bought a nicely configured iMac a few weeks ago and have noticed the keyboard stops responding from time to time. The mouse and trackpad (wireless in my case) continue to function fine. The workaround until an OS update is to unplug the keyboard's USB cabe and then plug it back in.
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So, you're saying this total trashy release of software is "AS GOOD IS IT GETS" with the new "good enouf" management?

Like with the iMaps screw up, Apple just chums the water with shit and sees if the user base will eat it up.

Well I said a lot of things but never that it's "as good as it gets".

I was speaking about apple in general as company who provides software, hardware,and services.

Sure in some areas they are bested but in totality ...for my money....they are still the best.

I also stated that every company has their hiccups.

I trust they will hammer them out in a timely fashion.

It's a tough business and I for one, understand that I cannot expect perfection.

But I can see and sumpathize what frustrations these hiccups caus people.

But I have never experienced they Hell I went through with Microsoft at apple.
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Originally Posted by Dickprinter View Post
Your answer accomplished nothing more than making me feel (or anyone posting similar) that we are completely wrong....without providing any citations to prove otherwise.

 

Citations? You want 400,000 citations?

 

I mean… I literally cannot remember what I did five minutes ago. I have to force myself not to eat because, since I never feel hungry, I can overeat easily because I don’t remember when it last happened. I have to have sound alert reminders to brush my teeth, to check what I need before going to the store, etc. because I won’t even remember to check a text list of things to have forgotten otherwise. I never respond to people by name because I’m terrified that I don’t know their names.

 

And I still remember this stuff enough to say, without having to question myself as I am forced to do with everything else, that errors, bugs, and mishaps happened during Steve’s tenure. Part of this is because I have to work out everything from its logical foundation upward to derive a conclusion since I can’t just remember the content itself. 

 

Anyway, Steve Jobs was human, therefore he failed–or was wrong–at least once. Therefore he did fail, which, after research, is apparent in products both hardware and software, and in business decisions. He failed, I would say, no more or less than his personally-trained team. He hired Sculley, they hired… the guy. retail. sucked at it. Whoever he was. Steve made a puck mouse. They made a smaller iPad. Same diff, even with software.

 
 So what youre saying is that these questions wouldnt have been raised if Steve was still with us

 

Yep. The question, “Would Apple have been better off if Steve had not come back?” would not have been raised because, as should be apparent, the answer is obvious.

 
In other words we are focusing on the bad and wrongly see more because we're trying to look for places to point fingers?

 

That’s it. Steve was a wunderkind, wunderman, and wunder… whatever else. With him gone, it’s easy as can be to blame failings on who was left behind. Never mind that similar, equal failings (and “failings”) happened under his tenure and were neither blamed on him (whether appropriate) nor on the people under him (same). 

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My suspicion (as seems to be the conventional wisdom) is that Apple more-or-less ported over the iOS versions of iWork to OSX (after all, didn't Apple proclaim these were rewritten from the ground up?) and that's why a lot of functionality was removed from all of the apps. I sincerely hope that Apple begins adding back what's missing and enhanced beyond what we had before. Migrate what was once Bento into the suite, give Numbers some real power (more functions, pivot tables, larger worksheets) and iWork could be a real Office productivity replacement for a large percentage of us. The new collaboration features look like they could be great, but the apps themselves just need to be a bit less watered down.

I'm with you, especially when it comes to Bento.  I am now using Filemaker but it takes awhile to learn how to recreate all the files I had in Bento.  Essentially I had to become an FM specialist so I could get Bento back.  And I suspect there are a lot of us out there who really don't need the power of FM.  Bento as part of iWork would be really a treat.

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I'm with you, especially when it comes to Bento.  I am now using Filemaker but it takes awhile to learn how to recreate all the files I had in Bento.  Essentially I had to become an FM specialist so I could get Bento back.  And I suspect there are a lot of us out there who really don't need the power of FM.  Bento as part of iWork would be really a treat.

www.apple.com/feedback

 

Tell Apple directly, we can't do anything about what Apple does, we only sit here being armchair quarterbacks, and the peanut gallery, so we have little control.  :-)

 

I like Bento, I thought it might have been more popular, but I think it was one of those s/w apps that is very useful to some, but maybe not enough.  I don't know why Apple doesn't bring FM, the company, completely under Apple instead of them being separated as much as they are.  They basically act like a completely separate company that gets no attention from Apple.  It would be funny if they had several versions FM, a basic database like Bento, relational like regular FM and then a transactional like Oracle.   I thought they still made it.  I haven't been keeping tabs on Bento.   I guess databases aren't the big killer app since databases take a back seat in the eyes of the public and media.  It's never been a sexy enough topic for the media and the public at large.  Even Word processors and spreadsheets aren't as popular amongst discussions as they were in the 80's.  Back then you mentioned one tiny feature and it practically got front page headline news article in InfoWorld and other computer mags.  What was big news back 30 years ago is trivial today.  Oh well.

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Part of this is because I have to work out everything from its logical foundation upward to derive a conclusion since I can’t just remember the content itself.  

Hahahahahaha

Your posts almost never contain logic. They are emotional and full of revisionist history and empty accusations.
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Originally Posted by wakefinance View Post
Your posts almost never contain logic. They are emotional and full of revisionist history and empty accusations.

 

Thanks for that; I’m glad to know you’re wrong, though.

Originally posted by Marvin

Even if [the 5.5” iPhone exists], it doesn’t deserve to.
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Originally posted by Marvin

Even if [the 5.5” iPhone exists], it doesn’t deserve to.
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post #73 of 83
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Thanks for that; I’m glad to know you’re wrong, though.

You know what's weird? The more I give you a hard time for saying things I don't like, the more I like you. You make these forums...interesting. Maybe that's it. Maybe I like you for giving me more opportunities to engage.
post #74 of 83
Also experiencing USB problems on my late 2009 iMac. This leads to Mouse & keyboard not responding (bluetooth hinged to internal USB)
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In my Batman voice

(and lots, lots more)

 

My company has been all Mac for over a decade.  Now suddenly we are to start looking into Windows.  Sure, it is just a first look, but it is happening. 

 

The Windows guy is a friend of mine, so the meeting should go well (if he can get over my many attempts over the years to convert him to Mac).  I plan to show up with my rMBP, as I know he will drool over it.


Edited by Bergermeister - 10/29/13 at 6:24am

 

Your = the possessive of you, as in, "Your name is Tom, right?" or "What is your name?"

 

You're = a contraction of YOU + ARE as in, "You are right" --> "You're right."

 

 

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Your = the possessive of you, as in, "Your name is Tom, right?" or "What is your name?"

 

You're = a contraction of YOU + ARE as in, "You are right" --> "You're right."

 

 

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Let me save you some time: They are GONE.

 

 

Thanks!  I'm not going to even open the new iWork apps again until they are updated with new (old) features, which I hope happens soon.

 

Someone said it above, but I wonder if Apple could benefit from better communication.  Lots of people, for example, didn't know '09 was still on their machines and had heart attacks when the lost functionality hit their files.  Had Apple stated somewhere that '09 would be left in place, there might have been fewer headaches all around.

 

But this is Apple.  Secrecy, simplicity and brevity.  Some of the reasons we like them.  Some of the reasons they drive us crazy.

 

Your = the possessive of you, as in, "Your name is Tom, right?" or "What is your name?"

 

You're = a contraction of YOU + ARE as in, "You are right" --> "You're right."

 

 

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Your = the possessive of you, as in, "Your name is Tom, right?" or "What is your name?"

 

You're = a contraction of YOU + ARE as in, "You are right" --> "You're right."

 

 

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post #77 of 83
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My company has been all Mac for over a decade.  Now suddenly we are to start looking into Windows.  Sure, it is just a first look, but it is happening. 

The Windows guy is a friend of mine, so the meeting should go well (if he can get over my many attempts over the years to convert him to Mac).  I plan to show up with my rMBP, as I know he will drool over it.

Well drool as he might, it takes time for people to make the switch.

Have you given thought to the fact that due to the finances of your company that they may be considering the switch to pc because of its affordability?

That might be my main concern with this pc/Mac switching if I were you.

It could be a sign of the economy's affect on your company's growth.

Hopefully not.
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I've been working on the guy for years!

 

Regarding the peeking into Windows: I live in Japan and the economy could be a reason.  Sales taxes are due to go up in April by 3% and then the next year another 2%.  Electricity costs are increasing as power companies spend more on oil now that nuclear plants are all but closed.  Gasoline prices are going up.  But then my boss is, well, unique, so it could anything.  

 

Personally (and at work) I want a MacPro but will have to think hard about it.  If I jump I'll also have the display to pick up, too, so it will be a pretty penny.  Too bad the Apple Store doesn't list the prices for the various options, yet.  Luckily I already have Thunderbolt drives.


Edited by Bergermeister - 10/29/13 at 7:20am

 

Your = the possessive of you, as in, "Your name is Tom, right?" or "What is your name?"

 

You're = a contraction of YOU + ARE as in, "You are right" --> "You're right."

 

 

Reply

 

Your = the possessive of you, as in, "Your name is Tom, right?" or "What is your name?"

 

You're = a contraction of YOU + ARE as in, "You are right" --> "You're right."

 

 

Reply
post #79 of 83
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As for mavericks, it's less than a week ago. And contrary to the FUD spreaders at no point did anyone at Apple ever even hint that there still is trouble free.

 

 

 

What is OS X?

The Mac operating system is designed to be easy to use and engineered to take full advantage of the technologies built into every computer we make. So everything works just the way you expect it to.

 

So where does it say, "BTW this is a Beta"?

 

History shows that most software is buggy but do you really think it fair to malign customers that are having problems?

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What is OS X?

The Mac operating system is designed to be easy to use and engineered to take full advantage of the technologies built into every computer we make. So everything works just the way you expect it to.

 

So where does it say, "BTW this is a Beta"?

 

History shows that most software is buggy but do you really think it fair to malign customers that are having problems?

 

I think they should say beta. They should know better, they did say beta when they were playing around with the iCloud version before it got finalized.

 

Never mind, i was referring to iWork.

 

Actually, bugs in ANY new software is going to happen.  The sooner you understand this, the less complaining.  This has happened since the beginning of time with software.

 

There are averages when it comes to number of bugs per lines of code and there are too many possible ways to configure one's computer with hardware and software, but Apple does a great job in fixing them as there is usually bug fixes shortly after the initial release and then about 6 months later the majority of the bugs that affects us are gone and then it's just a matter of bug fixes that might address another s/w or h/w that gets released afterwards.  How many bug fixes have their been for each major release of OS X looking back historically?  They are releasing less number of updates because they are either having less number of bugs or fixing them quicker.


Edited by drblank - 10/29/13 at 2:55pm
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