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Rumor: Big-screen 'iPhone 6' coming Sept. 2014, Apple to focus on one-handed use

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Yet another rumor claims Apple is planning to launch a new iPhone with an even larger display late next year, and that the company may promote the so-called "iPhone 6" as the first big-screen phone able to be operated with just one hand.

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The details come from Japanese magazine Mac Fan, which were summarized on Tuesday by Macotakara. The report claims Apple's next-generation iPhone may sport a 1,920-by-1,080-pixel 5-inch display packing in 440 pixels per inch.

It was claimed that Apple plans to make both sides of the screen as "thin as possible." That could allow the company to promote the "iPhone 6" as the first "phablet" able to be operated with one hand.

The appeal of one-hand operation was already something Apple already focused on when it released the iPhone 5, sporting a larger 4-inch display, in 2012. That was an increase from the 3.5-inch display size found on all previous iPhone models.

The magazine that serves as the source of the latest rumor isn't known for leaking information about Apple products, and thus does not have an established track record. But there have been multiple claims that Apple may be planning to release a larger screened version of the iPhone in 2014.

Most notably, well-connected analyst Ming-Chi Kuo of KGI Securities said in September that Apple is apparently planning to release a new handset with a screen size between 4.5 and 5 inches. He said that the company is unlikely to release anything larger than 5 inches due to the company's "unwavering principle of one-hand use."

So-called big-screen "phablets" have become increasingly popular in the smartphone market, with Samsung leading the way in terms of selection. The Korean firm's recently released Galaxy Note III features a 5.7-inch display, while the Galaxy Mega comes close to being a small tablet with a 6.3-inch screen.
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Finally. It's about time that Apple enters the big screen game. The current 4" is ridiculous. I am holding onto my 3gs until bigger phone appears.
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Just hope my 4s lasts that long...as I see little compelling reason to upgrade to the 5 or 5s at the moment.
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If I can use it with one hand and put it in a normal sized pocket then I'm fine with it. If not, it might as well be trash. Those super screen phones are for women and their purses.
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If they do enlarge the phone, I can see it lose a significant amount of the top where the earpiece is as there is more room to spread out the electronics.  I think the lower half would stay the same given touchid has increased the importance of the home button.

 

If they do this I hope they retain the 5S screen / form factor.  It fits in the shirt pocket, etc.

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As someone who can grip a full-sized iPad edge to edge with one hand but whose eyes are wavering, a larger screen is something I'd probably welcome. The overall utility of the current devices is excellent however and so I hope that larger iPhones maintain that. For example, my iPhone is also my sports data acquisition system, a bike computer for example and I'd not want that to become impractical. A diagonal of five inches might be perfect (and house a much bigger battery).

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What does thinness have to do with one-handed operation? If a device is to wide/tall you won't be able to use it with one hand no matter how thin it is. And I would imagine for most phone users battery life matters more than anything else. I question the validity of some of these rumors especially considering they're coming out right after the 5S was released. I mean there's no way Apple would be leaking stuff like this because it very well could have an impact on 5S sales.

Something else I'm curious about....all the people complaining about iOS 7 and suggesting Apple is just following a "flat design" trend....are they also going to complain that Apple is just following a "phablet" trend? Or is it OK for Apple to follow something as long as that something is something they agree with?
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a year out.   a 'fan' magazine that doesn't cite a source.

Not a 5" but a 6"

 

Sounds like a wish list, not unlike what some posts are on this site.;-)

 

I can't wait for AI to site a post on AI as a source for an article

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These Apple product predictions of are more like the Armageddon predictions.

 

How many times do we need nuts cases who read tea leaves and bible verse saying the end of the earth will happen on this day, only to have that day come and pass and we are still here, only to have them revises the date to a new day in the future.

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When big iPhone comes , is when we say bye bye to Samsung .
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Look at the G2.

 

If you let something like that fall, wouldn't the phone become quickly destroyed? As HTC showed, there are other ways to make a great phone with a bigger screen.

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I'm all for it. And there is little doubt in my mind they will increase it somehow- What I don't know (yes- I know I dont know either) is if they will offer two sizes. Like a 4" and 4.8". If they only do one size id expect something moderate- like 4.3". Two would be my preference as options would be a great thing and personally id love a 4.8.

Also- every other product line has size options. 9.7 or 7.8 iPad, 13 or 15 rMBP, 11 or 13 Air, 21 or 27 iMac etc

Time will tell.
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What was the first thing Jobs did when he returned to Apple? He stripped the product line down and streamlined everything. Apple was too spread out. Please Tim, don't go back to that period of a watered down brand.

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post #15 of 115
Apple is so late to this. People don't want small 5" screens anymore we've moved to 6" screens where you can't even carry it!

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I guess I am in the minority on this or at least with the early morning crowd. I think a larger screen is a horrible idea. Not only does it look ridiculous when i see people with these huge phones held up to their heads, it is going to blur and confuse the distinction of product line.

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post #17 of 115

"the first big-screen phone able to be operated with just one hand."

I've played with the Note series of phones in stores and had no issues using it with one hand. I guess if you're female or have small hands I could see an issue.

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When big iPhone comes , is when we say bye bye to Samsung .

Really? What do they always say to those on top, "Don't punch down."

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What was the first thing Jobs did when he returned to Apple? He stripped the product line down and streamlined everything. Apple was too spread out. Please Tim, don't go back to that period of a watered down brand.

 

Huh?

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I wonder how they plan on accomplishing this. If you remove the side bezels, you have an additional half-inch screen width. Add a quarter inch to each side, making the phone's overall width a half inch wider, you can now have one full inch of additional screen size. To make up for the additional bulk of added width, they would need to make the vertical bezels shorter, the overall product yet thinner and lighter than the 5/5S.

I think I just described the iPhone 6's form factor pretty accurately.
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Well it can't be just taller, that would make it too hard for smaller hands to reach the top of the screen.  It won't be a 5 inch phone.  I am thinking 4.3 with a thin bezel like the iPad Air and iPad Mini.

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What was the first thing Jobs did when he returned to Apple? He stripped the product line down and streamlined everything. Apple was too spread out. Please Tim, don't go back to that period of a watered down brand.
This. I like this.
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But everything will have to be re-written!!
lol- Where's all the old-time naysayers? There would never be an iPad mini- and definitely never a Retina.
 
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This. I like this.

 

Since you like that comment maybe you can explain how adding a 4.3"-4.8" phone to the lineup waters down the brand. (5" to 6" is just silly)

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I can't see this happening. It would be unlike Apple to enter the phablet market.

 

Instead Apple will focus on going smaller. The iPhone Nano will be the new iWatch.

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"the first big-screen phone able to be operated with just one hand."

I've played with the Note series of phones in stores and had no issues using it with one hand. I guess if you're female or have small hands I could see an issue.

That's surprising considering that except when using it as a phone, the current iPhones can't be easily and comfortably operated with one  hand.    This is all counter-intuitive to me.   I don't see how an even larger phone enables single handed operation and I don't understand how you used the Note with one hand.  You've got to hold onto something (unless it's designed to be used with an arm band) and if you're holding on, you can't type efficiently with that same hand (unless once types with just one finger).   That's even true for the current iPhones.    If you just need to press a Back or Send button, you can do that with one hand, but if you have to type actual sentences or even URLs, you can't do that with one hand.

 

That's not to say that having a larger phone wouldn't be a viable alternative for some people.         The problem is that once you get larger than 5", it's getting awfully close to an iPad Mini size, which would make the Mini moot, since the subsidized price of the iPhone would be perceived as far less than the Mini, for far more functionality.

 

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If they do this I hope they retain the 5S screen / form factor.  It fits in the shirt pocket, etc.

That can only happen if the button and speaker area becomes all screen.   It can't violate the laws of physics.   The button itself can be replaced by a software button, but there's microphones, headphone jack and power connector beneath it, so the phone would have to get a minimum of a 1/2" longer if they kept the same width, but they can't keep the same width and keep the same aspect ratio, so it would have to get wider.    If you want a shirt pocket phone, get a shirt pocket phone.    It's like complaining that the iPad won't fit in your shirt pocket. 

 

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What was the first thing Jobs did when he returned to Apple? He stripped the product line down and streamlined everything. Apple was too spread out. Please Tim, don't go back to that period of a watered down brand.

That was different.    In those days, Apple had competing product lines (Centris, Performa, Mac, etc.) as well as indistinguishable models within each line and it was difficult to tell the differences between them and the advantages/disadvantages of each.    The problem with that "supermarket strategy" (take up as much space as possible in dealer shelves) is that it caused customer confusion and when there's confusion, consumers defer purchasing.   It also made it difficult for retailers who couldn't explain the differences.   That doesn't matter when you're selling different flavored or regular/diet soda, but it matters a lot when you're selling computers, especially back in those days when this was still new to many consumers. 

 

There's nothing wrong with having clearly distinguishable models (by screen size) at different price points.     I can see the 5c, 5s (or 6) and a larger phone co-existing without problems.  Of course if this rumor is true, the iPhone 6 might be the larger screen phone.

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Originally Posted by Jack C View Post
Finally. It's about time that Apple enters the big screen game. The current 4" is ridiculous.

 

Abject nonsense.

 

Originally Posted by island hermit View Post

Huh?

 

What was confusing in that post?

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post #28 of 115

I hope this is true.  Apple should take a look at the new swift key keyboard for android.  It's made it so that the keyboard is accessible by one thumb.  Also move all the check marks from the left side of a phone and put them all on the right side or make that configurable for a left or right handed person.  And the phone needs to be no larger than 5.1" and no smaller than 4.9".

 

They do that and Samsung is dead.  I would even go back to owning an iPhone.

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What was confusing in that post?

 

I see nothing that indicates that a 4.3" to 4.8" iPhone would water down the brand.

 

Moving from 3.5" to 4" didn't water it down.

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Apple is so late to this. People don't want small 5" screens anymore we've moved to 6" screens where you can't even carry it!

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what research do you base that claim on... Even Google android data shows only 10% of the users are using the bigger suppliers. 

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Agreed. A phone should be as small as possible. When I want to read the NY Times I use an iPad.

Men keep phones in their pockets. Make a big phablet for women- fine. Just don't get rid of the thin narrow phones as an option.

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Pure drivel.

The fan magazine cited knows nothing and half the posts here indicate they are equally clueless.

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Originally Posted by island hermit View Post

Moving from 3.5" to 4" didn't water it down.

 

Moving from 3.5” to 4” retained one-handed usability. You’d need hands like mine to use anything larger.

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"Big Hands, I know you are the one..."

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Moving from 3.5” to 4” retained one-handed usability. You’d need hands like mine to use anything larger.

 

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What was confusing in that post?

 

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I see nothing that indicates that a 4.3" to 4.8" iPhone would water down the brand.

 

Moving from 3.5" to 4" didn't water it down.

 

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Moving from 3.5” to 4” retained one-handed usability. You’d need hands like mine to use anything larger.

 

That has nothing to do with watering down the brand- just one-handed usability.  island is correct- his post didn't make sense.  Listen to what I said TS- I'm saying island is correct.  Just that admission is proof enough.

Although I've agreed with his last 2 points now... what is happening?

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The report claims Apple's next-generation iPhone may sport a 1,920-by-1,080-pixel 5-inch display packing in 440 pixels per inch.

It was claimed that Apple plans to make both sides of the screen as "thin as possible." That could allow the company to promote the "iPhone 6" as the first "phablet" able to be operated with one hand.

 

First, if the screen is 5" or less, it is not a "phablet". Screen needs to be a bit bigger for that label. Second, since there are already phones with 5" 1080P screens that can be operated with one hand (such as my HTC DNA) the claim would be wrong. Of course, that wouldn't prevent Apple from making it, they have made other "first" claims before when they weren't.

 

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Not only will Apple very likely make a 5" version but I predict once they do this or perhaps the year after they will drop the numbers from the iPhone name. I just don't see them releasing an iPhone 9 or 12, it just starts to sound tedious. They can simply have the iPhone c, iPhone (4") and iPhone + (5") which will cover the entire lineup and price points. The switch to Mavericks gave us a good indication they are heading this way by dropping the numbers for OS X. 

 

It is really hard to understand how anyone could be opposed to this move. Far from diluting the brand this will be the final piece in the puzzle. They will continue to make the 4" version so all those people like the smaller form factor will be appeased but it is ridiculous to ignore a larger screen size when that sector has been growing by leaps and bounds the last few years. Not to mention potentially millions of current iPhone owner who are loyal to the iPhone for the quality of iOS and the hardware but would prefer a larger display that is easier on the eyes or just because they prefer a larger display for a whole host of other reasons.

 

One handed use is also highly overrated to me in any case as I tend to hold my iPhone 5s in landscape and therefore 2 handed mode as often if not more so as portrait. Most games, videos, typing texts, and indeed most activities where I am looking at the display are better served in landscape mode now so I just really fail to see the importance of one handed use anymore at least from my own personal habits and usage patterns. I am sure others here have very different needs and uses and might find a smaller form factor preferable which is why it makes sense to serve both groups. Apple are very conservative and would never have released a larger iPhone the same year they also introduced the iPhone 5c. But next year will be the perfect time and their product grid will be complete and offer an option for people on a budget, people currently content with the standard iPhone form factor, as well as people that have been wanting a larger display. With the move to China Mobile, Docomo, and many other carriers around the world along with a larger iPhone Samsung will likely see a substantial decline by this time next year. This was their last safe haven free from competition from Apple but Cupertino is on the march. 

 

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Originally Posted by island hermit View Post

... and

 

That’s… what… she said? :???:

 

Originally Posted by Andysol View Post

That has nothing to do with watering down the brand

 

I don’t think he meant to say that in the first place; I certainly don’t agree with it. What a wider product base does do, however, is increase complexity on both sides of the aisle. Well, all three sides if you consider Apple’s production and development to be a side.

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How about making a phone radio just another option on all iPads, including a new "iPad Nano" to fill the gap between the Mini and the iPhone. Let the buyer decide if they want a Phablet or a Tablet.

They're already part way there with the iPod Touch, which is essentially an iPhone without a radio.
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