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Review: Kwikset's new iPhone-compatible 'Kevo' keyless deadbolt lock

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The home automation sector's move to the mainstream has introduced consumers to innovative new products from startups and industry stalwarts alike, one being the Kevo lock from Kwikset, a Bluetooth-enabled, touch-activated smart lock that lets owners use their iPhone as a door key.
 

Kevo


Back in May, AppleInsider reported on Kwikset's Kevo unveiling, noting the home security device would use advanced wireless technology from startup UniKey, affording users unprecedented security management through the use of digital "eKeys."

Unlike physical keys, eKeys are difficult to copy and can be revoked at any time. For example, permanent eKeys can be sent to family members, while time-based permissions are available for others, like maids or babysitters.

Over the past week, we were able to spend some time with a final Kevo production unit to test Kwikset's claims of easy security management, and to see if the device would be any more useful than a plain old set of keys.
 

Design



From the outside, Kevo looks almost identical to any other deadbolt setup. The simple "rose," or outer portion of the deadbolt assembly, is made of metal — finished in either Lifetime Polished Brass, Satin Nickel, or Venetian Bronze — and matches up well with lock sets made by other brands. When Kevo is not active, only a close inspection will reveal that it's no ordinary lock.
 

Kevo


In fact, looking at it face-on, the only sign that something is amiss is the translucent ring surrounding the cylinder housing. This part hides the five multicolored LED modules that, along with a user-defeatable "beep," serve as the unit's feedback mechanism. The lights blink, spin and flash in five different colors depending on Kevo's status. A few basic functions: blue means the unit is thinking, magenta signifies a fob or iPhone is out of range, red represents a number of errors as well as low battery warnings, amber means Kevo locked the door successfully and green is shown when the door is unlocked. (See video below for a demonstration.)
 

Kevo


The rose, which protrudes from the door no more than a regular deadbolt, is touch-sensitive and is the main mode of interfacing with Kevo. Without this functionality, say if the lock's batteries run dry, users are relegated to using the provided hardware keys like a traditional deadbolt.

That small slit just to the left of the keyway is used for Kwikset's Smartkey re-key technology, which allows the lock to be reconfigured with a new set of physical keys. At least one of the original keys is required to first unlock the mechanism before re-keying. The method can be thought of as a more secure version of reassigning a personalized number to a push-button luggage lock.

One thing that will likely go unnoticed, even to those with a keen eye, is the cylinder's face plate, or the area surrounding the keyway. Kwikset experts told AppleInsider that the component is not actually pure metal, but is instead a hybrid metal/plastic material used to enhance radio transparency for the device's built-in antennas.
 

Kevo


Kevo's electronic guts are housed within a fairly large shell located on the interior side the door. As seen above, the unit is definitely larger than a regular lock assembly.

The indoor portion of Kevo also holds the reset and calibration controls, a removable cage with room for four AA batteries, bolt motor and the PCB, among other electronics. At the bottom of the housing is the interior turnpiece to lock and unlock the mechanism, while the brains are located in a plastic shell just above. The black portion of the removable cover aids in radio transmission.

Given the build quality of the exterior rose, we were disappointed to find so much plastic used on the parts located inside the house. To be clear, the functional components, like brackets, spacers and latch bolt, are all made of strengthened metal, but the housing is largely plastic. Particularly, the back cover feels like it could easily break after extended use.
 

Kevo


Finally, while not a gripe, the user interface is typical of industrial products. That is to say the design is all function, no pizazz, with exposed circuitry and rudimentary labeling. Toggle controls for sound and other functions are even routed through a DIP switch. We have no qualms about the design, in fact, we like to keep it simple, but some consumers may be turned off by the lack of polish on a relatively pricey kit.
 

Installation



Aside from looking like a traditional deadbolt (at least from the outside), Kevo is compatible with most doors, meaning no special tools beyond a screwdriver are needed for installation. It should be noted that the lock was not fully-compatible with a hollow steel door located in a Midtown Manhattan apartment building — our first attempt at an installation — that currently employs an external deadbolt on the inside of the door. To be sure we could not use the device on a hollow steel door, we called a locksmith. The locksmith said he was willing to install the Kevo if we really wanted, but would not recommend it because he could not guarantee the work because the structure of the door (below) would not provide the proper support for the deadbolt mechanism. Buyers should check specification requirements prior to buying, but compatibility is nearly identical to most traditional deadbolts on the market.
 

Kevo


In most other cases, installation on an an existing, solid door that currently has the same style deadbolt is fairly painless. It's about as simple as any other deadbolt, the only difference being a bit of wire routing and positioning of the housing's interior bracket. It took us a little over five minutes to remove our old lock from a different door and put in Kevo. For reference, this door — located some 5000 miles away — is a solid core wooden door with separate cutouts for a handle and deadbolt. This unit also features a steel door frame with integrated door strike, though installation would be identical for houses with a wooden frame and screwed-in strike plate.
 

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Kwikset supplies all the necessary hardware to get Kevo installed for doors with thicknesses of 1-3/8" or 1-3/4" and the latch assembly is adjustable as well. Also included is a 24-step installation and setup guide.
 

Usage



After getting everything hooked up and batteries installed, we decided to activate and enroll the provided Kevo Fob first. The small device holds a Bluetooth Low Energy transceiver and an LED that lights up green when Kevo is successfully locked or unlocked. An accelerometer or other motion sensor is also on-board, as Kwikset says the fob saves energy by putting itself into sleep mode after 30 seconds of non-movement.
 

Kevo


By pressing the Program button on Kevo's interior housing, users can enroll both fobs and iPhones. A total of eight separate fobs can be enrolled on one Kevo lock, while a single fob can be enrolled on as many as 25 different Kevo units.

After we confirmed the fob was operable, we downloaded the Kevo app on our iPhone 5s and proceeded to setup the phone using the same method.

A major security feature being touted by Kwikset is Kevo's so-called "inside-outside" fob and smartphone recognition, which intelligently detects whether a verified user is currently inside or outside their house.

Inside-outside security

If an authorized device is known to be inside the house, unauthorized users are unable to activate Kevo from outside. Further, Kevo won't blink magenta to signify that a fob or iPhone is out of range, something that could alert an intruder to the homeowner's absence. The system acts as a one-way filter that lets only authorized users pass through the entryway.

Kevo samples eKey radio signal strength on both sides of a door to determine if a user is inside or outside the house.To enable the feature, Kevo relies on an antenna array that picks up Bluetooth radio signals on both sides of the door and measures their strength against a calibration setting. Because radio waves can pass through solid material, Kwikset had to fine tune Kevo to create a foolproof system.

In order to use inside-outside, users must calibrate Kevo by standing outside the door and touching the rose three times while keeping the fob or iPhone in a pants pocket or purse. The digital key must be in line-of-sight to be recognized. Once an acceptable reading has been logged, Kevo will save the signal strength data to refer to the next time someone tries to activate the lock. If the key is outside the calibrated parameters, the LEDs will flash either red or magenta to signify an error.

The feature proved to be extremely sensitive, and we had to recalibrate our iPhone twice to achieve a range that worked well. This is a good thing, though, as inside-outside is built for protection, not convenience. In our tests, we found Kevo would not activate from the outside even when an authorized iPhone was positioned directly on the other side of the door.

Further, the calibration settings are device-specific, meaning the inside-outside feature will not be enabled for non-calibrated keys.

Sharing

Another benefit of having a digital set of keys is that they can be shared remotely. For our tests, we sent a variety of eKeys to another device via the Kevo app. Secondary users can accept or deny the invitation and, depending on the type of permissions granted, send their own eKeys to other people.

It should be mentioned that only the first eKey is free. Each subsequent digital key costs $1.99.
 

Kevo

Kevo's app as seen on an owner's iPhone.


eKey access can be set to three levels: time-limited, anytime, or admin. Kevo owners can disable or delete distributed keys at any time.

This is where we ran into a minor security issue. Because Kevo is not Internet-connected, eKey deletion tokens must be sent to the second device when an owner wants it deactivated. This means a user with "anytime" permission can simply turn off cellular data or Wi-Fi and keep the key indefinitely. Of course, they would have to know when the eKey was being deleted and keep their phone off-network.
 

Kevo

Sharing an eKey.


As a precautionary measure, UniKey, which handles the eKey servers, pushes out a constant delete message, so that any time the second device reconnects, its permissions will be invalidated. In addition, the primary user can simply reset the Kevo unit manually, wiping out all generated eKeys.
 

Kevo

Accepting an eKey on second device.


Owners who don't need to share can simply rely on the included fob and forego the iPhone integration altogether if needed. As mentioned above, up to eight can be associated with one Kevo, and Kwikset sells them as accessories.

Day-to-day

When we first installed and used Kevo, the locking mechanism's noise was surprisingly loud. There was also some trouble with out-of-range and inside-outside errors when using the iPhone's eKey. Initially, we thought the handset's radio signal was reflecting off a wall inside the house, near the door, but a quick recalibration proved the original settings were performed too close to the lock.

Recalibrating one step back from the door gave a better signal reading for Kevo to parse, resulting in nearly flawless operation thereafter.

There is a definite lag time between touching Kevo and unlocking the door.Following the recalibration procedure, we were able to keep the iPhone in our pocket or bag and open the door without issue. In our test case, a handle lock was used alongside the deadbolt. Instead of unlocking both with physical keys, our habit was quickly modified to touch the deadbolt rose upon arriving at the door, then unlocking the bottom handle while Kevo authenticated our phone and unlocked itself.

There is a definite lag time between touching Kevo and unlocking the door. Spinning blue lights appear when the unit is thinking, and it can take a few seconds to establish a link with your iPhone to authenticate the eKey. We timed it to be an average of three seconds slower than operating the lock manually.
 

Kevo


After becoming aware of Kevo's limitations, the lock has become just another part of our daily routine. While motor noise is still present, we believe it's no more bothersome than a set of rattling keys, and the lag time becomes less of an issue when carrying 20 pound's worth of groceries.

As a side note, we also turned off the optional on-board chimes because they were a tad too loud.
 

Conclusion



After using Kevo for over a week, we can't say that it's a life changer. But then, Kwikset never set out to start a revolution. What Kevo does is make life a little easier and, like any good product, doesn't cause frustration by being poorly executed. It does what it says on the box.
 

 


There are similar devices coming to market that feature Internet connectivity, remote access and a host of other bells and whistles, but security risks may outweigh any perceived benefit. As it stands, Kevo's Bluetooth LE capabilities and encrypted eKeys are still vulnerable to attack, though much less so due to its isolation from the Web. It would be easier for an intruder to enter through a broken window than hack Kevo's crypto.

If you're willing to accept the somewhat small security risk, as well as some minor quibbles we had with the plasticky housing and finicky calibration method, then Kevo is worth a look.

Kevo hit the market this week in three different finishes, all of which are currently in stock at Amazon for $219.
 

Score: 4


 

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Pros:

 

  • Secure
  • High quality lock mechanism
  • Convenient eKey sharing

 

Cons:

 

  • Operating lag time
  • Finicky calibration
  • Expensive
post #2 of 39
Three points:

Functionality - any alternative lock better work flawlessly and improve the 'door and lock experience'. If not it is DOA.

Security - not really a concern to me. The point is to lock the door to prevent opportunistic thieves. If somebody really wants to get in, they will. A crowbar works much better than hacking.

Looks - this thing is fugly

Looking forward to the August review - http://www.august.com
post #3 of 39
The time management aspects look pretty good: being able to give a key or phone access to a repair or delivery person just for a certain time is certainly a positive.

But aside from that, if you still have to carry a fob because there's always a chance that the batteries in the unit will fail, then what's the point? Might as well carry a mechanical key.

And you know that this thing is eventually going to get hacked.
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Three points:

Functionality - any alternative lock better work flawlessly and improve the 'door and lock experience'. If not it is DOA.

Security - not really a concern to me. The point is to lock the door to prevent opportunistic thieves. If somebody really wants to get in, they will. A crowbar works much better than hacking.

Looks - this thing is fugly

Looking forward to the August review - http://www.august.com

August is even uglier in many ways since it doesn't look like a typical door lock. I won't like any of them until they can be small enough to hide the electronics in a way that doesn't stand out to casual observers.
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Unfortunately, as I've been seeing as of late, none of the images have shown up in the article.

As for the lock itself, this is a first generation product. I expect them to work out some of the kinks, but it appears pretty well done. I'm waiting to see what others will be released, and what advantages and disadvantages they will have when compared to each other. But I can easily make a use case for one of them.
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The time management aspects look pretty good: being able to give a key or phone access to a repair or delivery person just for a certain time is certainly a positive.

But aside from that, if you still have to carry a fob because there's always a chance that the batteries in the unit will fail, then what's the point? Might as well carry a mechanical key.

And you know that this thing is eventually going to get hacked.

Key fob batteries tend to last years; I'd be more concerned with the AA batteries in the main device. You can still use a physical key. The point is convenience, like Touch ID, not to mention the other aspects the app offers.
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Unfortunately, as I've been seeing as of late, none of the images have shown up in the article.

As for the lock itself, this is a first generation product. I expect them to work out some of the kinks, but it appears pretty well done. I'm waiting to see what others will be released, and what advantages and disadvantages they will have when compared to each other. But I can easily make a use case for one of them.

Images showing up for me in both the main article and forum sections.
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August is even uglier in many ways since it doesn't look like a typical door lock. I won't like any of them until they can be small enough to hide the electronics in a way that doesn't stand out to casual observers.

The 'knob' for lack of a better word goes on the inside on the August so your exterior remains as it is today. As far as the inside goes it does not look like a traditional lock, agreed, but it IMO it looks nice. Its a personal design choice. If I am going to have a traditional looking lock on the outside I don't want a 'blue' glowing ring. 

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Sure seems like a lot of extra mumbo jumbo just to add another nifty, expensive gadget to the toy box. And if you have to touch the lock to activate, is it that much more effort to have a physical key in your hand and open the lock the good ol'-fashioned way? Yeah, I know, you can send a key code to the delivery man, and the cleaning lady...and then when they can't figure out how to make it work you can be their tech support. And when the AA batteries die, or your phone battery dies, or the system goes haywire you'll be cursing yourself for not keeping a spare physical key handy.

 

Somewhere in the near future this type of technology will ubiquitous, but for now I'll let the early-adopter guinea pigs have all the fun and frustration. 

post #10 of 39
Not for me, thanks.

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post #11 of 39

The lock mechanism itself looks like the same insecure bumpable cylinder design that the lock makers have been selling for decades.   If so, anyone with a filed keyblank can open locks of that type, no "hacking" required.  :no: 

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post #12 of 39

A long time ago I thought of a deadbolt that could be locked by simply pressing a button on the outside which would show a mechanically activated red mark to indicate it was locked. A spring loaded design. If I'm leaving for the day to go to the office, I usually have my hands full with briefcase in one hand and a coffee in the other. I could use one finger to activate the lock, but I don't like having to fiddle with a key or in this case a cell phone in order to lock the door while my are hands full. If your hands are full, you have to put something down. Obviously if your hands are full when returning home you'll need to put something down before unlocking the door. Anyway, this lock is incompatible with my door in the States as it has a Baldwin mortised-in lock. In Panama I have a really secure lock made in Israel that has keys which cannot be reproduced even by a locksmith.

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...oh, and you can't give a key code to the cleaning lady because she doesn't speak English and has no idea what you are talking about.

 

And you can't give one to the delivery man because the store has no idea which delivery man will be assigned your delivery and the customer service rep can't be bothered with or held liable for accepting your key code and making sure it gets to the right person. Plus he's never heard of Kevo and has no idea what you're talking about.

 

And you can't give one to the babysitter because the version of Android she is using doesn't support Kevo.

 

And your kid lost his smartphone and was afraid to tell you for two days. So for a couple of days someone may have had your address and an easy way to enter your home. Better hurry up and deactivate that phone. If your kid lost a physical key it would be pretty difficult for someone to figure out what door lock it went to. 

 

And no point giving a key code to the cable guy because someone has to be home when they make a service call.

 

And you can't give one to the contractor working on your bathroom because he doesn't even own a smartphone.

 

The ring around the lock lights up in one of five different colors, and that is saweet!

post #14 of 39
I like the concept of this, but like the looks of the august lock better. Hopefully you can disable the auto unlock feature though. I'm too security obsessed about locking my house to not know the door was locked when I return home. Granted if you hear it unlock when you walk up I could get past that. Now to get past the price tag for a lock....
post #15 of 39

I love seeing home automation devices coming around, but this doesn't look very impressive. Did anyone catch the cost on eKeys? You get one (ONE!!) for free and then they cost $1.99 each. Yikes!

 

Nice to hear about the August lock here in the thread; that was news to me. Looks better, but still kind of weird.

 

Anyway, I'll wait for Nest to do a lock. That'll be a slam dunk when it happens.

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How about some reviews for medical devices that attach to the iPhone?

 

http://internetmedicine.com/2012/12/14/top-ten-medical-uses-of-the-iphone/

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The Kevo was featured on Shark Tank and they liked the product, but not the $219 price.  I would never buy one when a regular Kwikset lock is far cheaper.  That was the sharks' reasoning as well.  I do not want a lock that requires batteries, and as mentioned above, you have to touch the lock to activate it so you might as well have your key in hand and open the door 3 seconds faster, and with much less noise.

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The Kevo was featured on Shark Tank and they liked the product, but not the $219 price.  I would never buy one when a regular Kwikset lock is far cheaper.  That was the sharks' reasoning as well.  I do not want a lock that requires batteries, and as mentioned above, you have to touch the lock to activate it so you might as well have your key in hand and open the door 3 seconds faster, and with much less noise.

 

Yes. The biggest problems for a mechanical lock are fewer than the possible points of failure for a mechanical+electronic lock.

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post #19 of 39
I don't get it... no burglar ever tries to "unlock" a door. They usually break a window (Kevo avoidance guaranteed), or simply use a crowbar to break open a door (again, Kevo avoidance guaranteed).

So why would I ever pay for a Kevo when it might be better to either buy stronger glass for your windows, or anti-crowbar frames around your door? Sorry for my lack of knowledge of the English words for these things%u2026 I'm Dutch 1smile.gif
post #20 of 39

With the success of the Nest thermostat, look for everyone to capitalize on making parts of your home "compatible" with whatever computer-related device you have.

 

Nice idea.  Too much cost.  Baffling user interface - especially if you give someone else a code.

I like that comment by Larz about becoming Tech Support for everyone who just doesn't get your superior lock.

 

The only place I could see this being used is in an office where it might be too expensive to setup a swipe/card lock system.  Just put one of these in and use your phone to unlock it.  Good idea for a server room (I had one where we had to keep entering a four-digit code to get into it and would've installed this - or had the maintenance guy do it - in a heartbeat.)


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I don't get it... no burglar ever tries to "unlock" a door. They usually break a window (Kevo avoidance guaranteed), or simply use a crowbar to break open a door (again, Kevo avoidance guaranteed).

So why would I ever pay for a Kevo when it might be better to either buy stronger glass for your windows, or anti-crowbar frames around your door? Sorry for my lack of knowledge of the English words for these things%u2026 I'm Dutch 1smile.gif

The Kevo is no stronger or weaker than a conventional deadbolt. It is designed to give authorized users more convenience, although it is debatable if it actually accomplishes that goal.

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I'm with many of the commentors. A big "meh" for me. Fairly, if you have lotsa kids, lotsa babysitters coming and going, house clearers, roommates, renters etc etc, it might fill a need I simply dont have. Good on you, tech has a solution. But for $220, this tech gets me exactly nothing, and in some respects sets me back.

The whole "smart home" stuff is intriguing, if not overpirced. I can see stuff like this being a featture of a new home, and marketed as such. Maybe that's these folks big market, and retro fitters an after thought. OK then. I can also see a market for tech savvy installers to offer a service to people that want this kind of thing, but don't want to dork with install and set up. And maybe if I buy a new door, I'd consider this when that time comes. Maybe.

Guess I've become a Jonny Ive deciple. Tech has to be invisible. This kind of thing just isn't. Of all the things in the world I want to think about, my door locks are pretty far down the list.
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The Kevo was featured on Shark Tank and they liked the product, but not the $219 price.  I would never buy one when a regular Kwikset lock is far cheaper.  That was the sharks' reasoning as well.  I do not want a lock that requires batteries, and as mentioned above, you have to touch the lock to activate it so you might as well have your key in hand and open the door 3 seconds faster, and with much less noise.

I'm using morning industries key fob locks that also support 3rd party signals... I'm using insteon  so I can unlock the lock from my back office when someone approaches my front door (motion detection Video on with an audio link).  Also allows me to global lock my 3 doors.  And unlock them with my iPhone (I'd rather have people call me than hand out digital keys... I like the idea, just not th e

 

Fobs are on the same keychain as the key... so the fishing for the key is still an issue, just don't have to install the key in the lock (with groceries, grandkids, whatever in tow)

 

And cost 1/2 the price of these kevos.  Same battery issue, but a much simpler programming method.

 

As for the price of a key... try getting a locksmith to rekey a lock for less than $1.99 a key;-)

 

As for security... keys are rarely secure... and quikset's are at the low end of the lockpicking evolution.   Key's are like identifiers, having a key proves you have access.   but lots of people can pick locks or bypass the lock all together.   Security comes from monitoring behind the door.

(like my  glass break detectors with PIR in the house), and sometimes, in front of the door (see motion detection above....  It 'wraps' the house with active beams.... I'm in a low density, high crime region [@#$@ meth heads will try to steal anything off a farm, and motion lights don't seem to bother them... like @$#%# racoons]


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Guess I've become a Jonny Ive deciple. Tech has to be invisible. 

With Jony Ive, text has to be invisible too.

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I'm with many of the commentors. A big "meh" for me. Fairly, if you have lotsa kids, lotsa babysitters coming and going, house clearers, roommates, renters etc etc, it might fill a need I simply dont have. Good on you, tech has a solution. But for $220, this tech gets me exactly nothing, and in some respects sets me back.



The whole "smart home" stuff is intriguing, if not overpirced. I can see stuff like this being a featture of a new home, and marketed as such. Maybe that's these folks big market, and retro fitters an after thought. OK then. I can also see a market for tech savvy installers to offer a service to people that want this kind of thing, but don't want to dork with install and set up. And maybe if I buy a new door, I'd consider this when that time comes. Maybe.



Guess I've become a Jonny Ive deciple. Tech has to be invisible. This kind of thing just isn't. Of all the things in the world I want to think about, my door locks are pretty far down the list.



The IoT world (Internet of Things) is moving towards making 'smart home' an 'TCP/IP' problem, which will drive the costs (most of the cost is the installer and the proprietary nature of signalling stds) way down.



 



Locks are high on my list... not so much the locking and unlocking, but for making sure they are locked (and doors closed).  period.  I've got 6 doors that must be locked 99% of the time, but I want them open when I need them open.   (arms full, no need to fumble for key).   I've got it down to Motion detection during the day unlocking them, when I put them in 'work mode', and me pushing a 'lock down' button on my iPad at night.



 



I grew up on a farm where the keys were in every truck and vehicle, the house was unlocked and  you'd let your neighbor drive his tractor through your fields to get to his... now we have a lock on the gates, the vehicles locked in the machine shed and the keys locked up in a lockbox in the shed.  Even the hog house is locked (yeah, they'll steal your pigs... someone will steal your bacon for a fix....;-( ).

post #26 of 39
I've used the keypad version of their product, and there was definitely a concern over the plastic housing on the inside. On that unit shutting the door would sometimes cause the batteries to separate from the contracts and disable the unit.

It was loud, but really that's not a big deal.

Still, I would much prefer the keypad to an iphone interface. You can assign temporary codes, but the benefit is that a key isn't needed at all.
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I'm in a low density, high crime region [@#$@ meth heads will try to steal anything off a farm, and motion lights don't seem to bother them... like @$#%# racoons]

Are the raccoons on meth too?
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The Kevo was featured on Shark Tank and they liked the product, but not the $219 price.  I would never buy one when a regular Kwikset lock is far cheaper.  That was the sharks' reasoning as well.  I do not want a lock that requires batteries, and as mentioned above, you have to touch the lock to activate it so you might as well have your key in hand and open the door 3 seconds faster, and with much less noise.

The lock is pretty expensive and provides no greater safety against break in than does a standard lock of equivalent strength.  Professional burglars have easier and faster ways to get in than to monkey with a lock.  The best feature of this device is probably the safety factor for a lady coming home in the dark. She can unlock the door as she approaches (hopefully she also has a motion activated light system), get in , and then close and lock quickly behind her.  Not as big a deal for guys...huge increase in safety for a lady.  The same is true for a lady who now has the same ability with her car in a dark parking situation late at night.  At $219.00 it would be worth it to me if I had someone who was potentially in danger.  

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post #29 of 39
It's nice that they kept practicality in mind when allowing use with a traditional key.

But in a world full of beautifully designed kickstarter projects, this is really losing out on looks. Not that everyone wants to be showy but this is way too low key as it doesn't look any different from a 20 year old key lock.
post #30 of 39
The fact that it looks like an old, low tech look is the whole point.

Y'all techies like cool new stuff. But in the real world that is very often a disadvantage.

Looking old while actually being hi- tech is a huge advantage.
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Originally Posted by Larz2112 View Post
 

...oh, and you can't give a key code to the cleaning lady because she doesn't speak English and has no idea what you are talking about.

 

And you can't give one to the delivery man because the store has no idea which delivery man will be assigned your delivery and the customer service rep can't be bothered with or held liable for accepting your key code and making sure it gets to the right person. Plus he's never heard of Kevo and has no idea what you're talking about.

 

And you can't give one to the babysitter because the version of Android she is using doesn't support Kevo.

 

And your kid lost his smartphone and was afraid to tell you for two days. So for a couple of days someone may have had your address and an easy way to enter your home. Better hurry up and deactivate that phone. If your kid lost a physical key it would be pretty difficult for someone to figure out what door lock it went to. 

 

And no point giving a key code to the cable guy because someone has to be home when they make a service call.

 

And you can't give one to the contractor working on your bathroom because he doesn't even own a smartphone.

 

The ring around the lock lights up in one of five different colors, and that is saweet!

 

I couldn't agree more. Why not just have a keypad on the thing. I could connect via bluetooth to set it to have a "one time only" open for a guest, or a "time window" if we have someone checking on the house, etc.

 

This device still makes me reach into my picket, unlock my phone, find an app, and unlock the door. Why not just reach into my pocket and grab my key.

post #32 of 39

I'll stick with my keypad and a 4 digit code.  Somebody mentioned August, looks better than this. Maybe the marketing video got the best of me.

post #33 of 39

The Kevo does not require you to dig in your pocket, or mess with the phone.  That's the elegance of using Bluetooth 4.0 Low Energy.  You simply need to be in-range of the device, and on the correct side of the door.  Just walk up, touch the lock, wait for it to wake up your iPhone and authenticate, and the lock opens.  That's it.  

 

As for looks, I appreciate that it matches the rest of my lockset.  Having a fancy contemporary designed widget stuck to my big stained wood door with leaded glass would stand out, and look quite out of place.  This blends in nicely.  

 

I've only just installed it and started playing with it, so time will tell how well it works in the real day-to-day.  It locks/unlocks reliably thus far, and install was an absolute breeze since it replaced an existing Kwikset lock.  

post #34 of 39
Seeking babysitter to care for three children ten and under. Must have iPhone.
post #35 of 39
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Originally Posted by paxman View Post

Three points:

Functionality - any alternative lock better work flawlessly and improve the 'door and lock experience'. If not it is DOA.

Security - not really a concern to me. The point is to lock the door to prevent opportunistic thieves. If somebody really wants to get in, they will. A crowbar works much better than hacking.

Looks - this thing is fugly

Looking forward to the August review - http://www.august.com
Me too. Waiting for the August review. The August looks way nicer and much simpler to install. Not mention authorised users don't need to drop what ever they are holding to find a key to unlock the door still.
post #36 of 39
I wonder how well it handles the elements?
post #37 of 39
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Originally Posted by Larz2112 View Post
 

...oh, and you can't give a key code to the cleaning lady because she doesn't speak English and has no idea what you are talking about.

 

And you can't give one to the delivery man because the store has no idea which delivery man will be assigned your delivery and the customer service rep can't be bothered with or held liable for accepting your key code and making sure it gets to the right person. Plus he's never heard of Kevo and has no idea what you're talking about.

 

And you can't give one to the babysitter because the version of Android she is using doesn't support Kevo.

 

And your kid lost his smartphone and was afraid to tell you for two days. So for a couple of days someone may have had your address and an easy way to enter your home. Better hurry up and deactivate that phone. If your kid lost a physical key it would be pretty difficult for someone to figure out what door lock it went to. 

 

And no point giving a key code to the cable guy because someone has to be home when they make a service call.

 

And you can't give one to the contractor working on your bathroom because he doesn't even own a smartphone.

 

The ring around the lock lights up in one of five different colors, and that is saweet!

 

Your life sounds miserable.   You have my sympathy.   I hope you were at least one of the six who got registered for Obamacare.

post #38 of 39
Quote:
Originally Posted by paxman 
Three points:

Functionality - any alternative lock better work flawlessly and improve the 'door and lock experience'. If not it is DOA.

Security - not really a concern to me. The point is to lock the door to prevent opportunistic thieves. If somebody really wants to get in, they will. A crowbar works much better than hacking.

Looks - this thing is fugly

Looking forward to the August review - http://www.august.com

Interesting. Ugly?? It looks like... a DEADBOLT. How is that "ugly"???
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Interesting. Ugly?? It looks like... a DEADBOLT. How is that "ugly"???

 

Exactly. You'd expect some new tech to look a little less old-fashioned.

 

Despite that, it's not really what put me off.

 

I have two major concerns with KEVO's electronic solution:

 

1. Having to pay for eKeys

 

Why can't they put a key generator inside the app or their site? They're just packets of data and most keys and certificates nowadays can be self-generated or signed (such as SSH keys or SSL certificates.)

 

This is a straight-up money grab.

 

2. You rely on the manufacturer

 

You're spending a lot of money on this lock, the least you deserve is knowing that if the manufacturer's site goes down or if they just go bankrupt, taking their servers down along with them, you can continue to use your device as normal.

 

This means:

a) They'd have to provide the server software for Linux / Window to host the necessary site for managing keys, checking history logs, etc

b) They'd have to include the ability to generate keys ourselves (preferably via the self-hosted site and/or the phone app).

 

I'll be holding off my purchase of a KEVO lock until they release a self-reliant model or software update.


Edited by E1971 - 7/6/14 at 1:48pm
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