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I see people have responded to you but I haven't seen a specific answer to this. The MAS has specific rules, rules I don't think VLC will pass for the same reason their iOS was pulled, Transmission could be seen as a potential issue for content owners whomApple partners with, and Dropbox needs you to enter your Admin password to install files where MAS files aren't allowed.

I have to wonder why MAS has to be the only option. Right now it's the best of both worlds for Mac users.

 

Drop box does a whole lot more than that ( it's probably ok to ask for user permission to install outside the sandbox). 

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I'm really curious what names they choose to go with for these releases:

Sequoia
Yosemite
Sonoma
Hollywood (not likely)

If it's anything other than Goose, I'll be disappointed.

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I'm really curious what names they choose to go with for these releases:

Sequoia
Yosemite
Sonoma
Hollywood (not likely)

 

California?

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I'm really curious what names they choose to go with for these releases:

East Los Angeles
South Central
Inglewood
Crenshaw

 

 

LOL'd hard at this. Priceless!!  :D 

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I'm really curious what names they choose to go with for these releases:

Sequoia
Yosemite
Sonoma
Hollywood (not likely)

I vote for Compton, because reasons.

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I'd like Messages to loose the bubbly Aqua look.

Right-click in the message area and select Boxes or Compact.

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post #48 of 109
Wait what? OS 10.10??? That's the same as 10.1!!!
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Originally Posted by franktinsley View Post
Wait what? OS 10.10??? That's the same as 10.1!!!

 

Are 10 and 1 the same number?

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What is weird about it? Plenty of software uses the same version number scheme. Also it's not more "mathematically weird" than say 10.8.3 as a version number. Versions numbers != mathematical values and they were never meant to be.


Fair enough.  But you'll admit that "Mac OS X 10.10" i.e., "Mac OS 10 10 point 10" doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.

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Fair enough.  But you'll admit that "Mac OS X 10.10" i.e., "Mac OS 10 10 point 10" doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.

Nor does Mac OS 10 10 point 8 point 3 or any other combination. That's why you simply refer to it by the code name.

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OSX: Compton. All the chrome has a gold chain look and Siri has been renamed to Ho. She will also respond to Yo B*tch

Actually, I think Android already does that. 

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OSX: Compton. All the chrome has a gold chain look and Siri has been renamed to Ho. She will also respond to Yo B*tch

I think Android phones already do that, since every time I hear someone f with their Android phone, they aren't talking normal English, they are swearing at it.  It's either that or they are talking to someone on the other end of the line.

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Not small, probably California, and I’d bet that OS X is supplanted before 2020.

I honestly don't know how they can improve on a desktop OS other than the direction they are already going.  IF they did, they would have to make the OS completely different look from a workflow perspective.  I'm sure Apple will change the theme, but the way it works otherwise just gets minor enhancements and changes, but I don't think it will get a completely new moniker of OS XI or X or anything like that.

 

Judging from the way they are making a lot of the apps, they might go to the black look, but I don't know if it will be called anything other than OS X  10.X.

 

I highly doubt Apple will even change to touchscreen laptops and desktops.   Ergonomic studies have proven that's a failure which is why Windows 8.x adoption hasn't been so great.

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Originally Posted by drblank View Post

Ergonomic studies have proven that's a failure which is why Windows 8.x adoption hasn't been so great.

 

That’s just because every implementation thus far has been a monumental, incompetent failure. Also Microsoft products, but if we’re talking strictly the hardware, it’s implementation that is at fault.

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That’s just because every implementation thus far has been a monumental, incompetent failure. Also Microsoft products, but if we’re talking strictly the hardware, it’s implementation that is at fault.

No, it has nothing to do with implementation of a touch screen for laptop/desktop.  It's just the ergonomics of positioning of the screen and arm movement.   The way a laptop and desktop is normally positioned, it's normal for your hands to rest on a keyboard unless you have the screen at a flatter surface that closer to you.

 

I've seen large screen desktops in positions for demos where the screen lies almost flat and you are positioned more on top of the screen, but in order to reach all four corners of the screen, it can cause some shoulder pain after a while.  For short periods of time or only doing it once in a while, it's not so bad, but on a regular basis for long periods of time it's not so good on large screens, especially.

 

Dell has their AIO that adjusts to almost flat, but just moving your hand to reach all four corners on a 27inch screen gets painful after a while.

 

I've seen people demoing software on a flat screen that was laying almost flat, but they didn't demo the software for anything longer than maybe 5 to 10 minutes and they were talking half of the time.

 

There is a certain size area for a touch screen mobile device that can be used until it starts to become painful to use over longer periods of time.  I don't know what that size is, but it's not going to be much more than maybe 13 or 15 inch is my guess, but then again I would have to have various sized screens to see what feels too big and what doesn't. 

 

I don't see a lot of people lined up to use that Surface table at the Microsoft stores for hours on end. Do you?  I think it's a novelty and maybe designed to be used by several people at once, but I don't think it's a useful size, even laying flat.

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Are 10 and 1 the same number?

No but 10.1 and 10.10 are. Whose talking about 10? The real answer to this question is "it's not a number" not "is 10 the same as 1" because you have to know that the dot is not a decimal point to grok that the the .10 is a dot ten not a point one. Less sneering, more explaining.

I think ten ten does roll off the tongue, in a way that ten point eight doesn't. They could even use two Roman numerals. Feck the beaches.

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Mavericks is amazing. I have absolutely no idea how they can get better. Just hope they now keep the battery saving features from Mavs.

 

Yep. I can't think of a single additional feature that I would ask for, nor any performance requests, as it just flies, and is rock solid. Honestly, I would be completely satisfied if all they did was refresh the OS visually for the next version, and not add a single feature. It's starting to look very dated, and I think the general iOS7 style can be adapted to the desktop, unlike previous iOS versions that would have looked tacky. I'm not the biggest fan of all of iOS7s design decisions, but it's simplicity and lack of chrome make it very flexible and robust in terms of adapting to different screen sizes and input methods. 

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Mavericks is great. The only complaint I have is with the new Pages. I tried opening a previous file and there was some floating text that it would not let me edit. I had to revert back to the previous version of Pages just to work on it. I've deleted the new Pages from my Mac but now I get the upgrade notification in the Mac App Store which will not go away......that is pissing me off. Same thing with iMovie on my old 2008 iMac, I can't upgrade because of my hardware which is fine but I can't get rid of the upgrade notification in the app store telling to upgrade to the new iMovie. This is stupid.

 

Uh, just hide the update, and it will disable all future notifications. And there's nothing "stupid" about it informing you of updates. 

 

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Also, it's time to enforce the Mac App Store for it to really take off. Dropbox, Chrome, Firefox, Transmission, Thunderbird, VLC, etc... What are they waiting for?

 

Steam would have to play nicely, too. The advantages are just tremendous (simplicity, ease of use, updates, apps would be forced to play nicely, comments and opinions always there, no malware or anything like it, etc.).

 

In an ideal world, I would agree with you. Having all apps in the appstore would greatly benefit the MAJORITY of users, in terms of stability, reliability, all updates from one source, a history of all your purchases, being able to easily restore all your applications from the cloud like iOS, etc. Like I said, MOST users. However, there are alot of use case scenarios, especially in development, that this would not work for many. The outcry would be massive. The best compromise is for major apps to have an option to download their apps from the appstore (ie. firefox/chrome/office/adobe suite/etc). However, these companies will most likely never do this, because of political, financial, and technical reasons. Which sucks, because I would always choose to download something from the appstore if its available. It's such a fucking headache having each application with its own update mechanism, own notification systems, etc. Would make life alot easier and cleaner if it was from one source, but again, unless it's forced (which it never will be) I predict most major apps will never make their way to the store. Then again, even though it can't compare to the iOS appstore, the Mac appstore is still an excellent addition and I've already downloaded nearly a hundred applications using it. The fact that OS updates are built in make things so much cleaner also. 


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Um... Not to correct Apple on how the decimal system works, but they can't do 10.10. It's already been done, it was called Puma! 10.1, 10.10, 10.100 = same thing.

It SHOULD be called OS XI or 11.0.
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Um... Not to correct Apple on how the decimal system works, but they can't do 10.10. It's already been done, it was called Puma! 10.1, 10.10, 10.100 = same thing.

It SHOULD be called OS XI or 11.0.

Dude. Read the thread.
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Um... Not to correct Apple on how the decimal system works, but they can't do 10.10. It's already been done, it was called Puma! 10.1, 10.10, 10.100 = same thing.

It SHOULD be called OS XI or 11.0.

Unbelievable. I don't know how many times it needs to be said. The point is NOT A DECIMAL SEPARATOR. IT NEVER HAS BEEN. IT NEVER WILL BE.

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Originally Posted by drblank View Post
No, it has nothing to do with implementation of a touch screen for laptop/desktop.  It's just the ergonomics of positioning of the screen and arm movement. 

 

And so… that implementation… does not work. So Apple will do something different than the crap being foisted by Microsoft right now.

 

Dell has their AIO that adjusts to almost flat, but just moving your hand to reach all four corners on a 27inch screen gets painful after a while. 

 

Each of my arms can cover 2/3 of a 27” screen. Drop that down to about half for the average person and we have ourselves a product.

 
There is a certain size area for a touch screen mobile device that can be used until it starts to become painful to use over longer periods of time.  I don't know what that size is, but it's not going to be much more than maybe 13 or 15 inch is my guess, but then again I would have to have various sized screens to see what feels too big and what doesn't. 

 

I’m gonna guess that, as with phone sizes, Apple has this all worked out and knows what sizes work. Just spitballing. :p

 
I don't see a lot of people lined up to use that Surface table at the Microsoft stores for hours on end. Do you?

 

Well, they don’t sell it anymore. It was an utter failure. :lol:

 

The problem with the Surface (besides its software and hardware) is its purpose. It wasn’t designed to be anything to anyone. It wasn’t even designed to be everything to everyone. It was just a table.

 

Originally Posted by asdasd View Post
No but 10.1 and 10.10 are.

 

Nope. That’s false.

 

Originally Posted by shaunvis View Post
Um... Not to correct Apple on how the decimal system works, but they can't do 10.10. It's already been done, it was called Puma! 10.1, 10.10, 10.100 = same thing.

 

Nope. 10 and 1 aren’t the same thing.

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And more on topic — I will never want my computer to look like iOS 7. Or to behave like OS7. Great for a hand-held device. Bad for sitting down to do serious work. 

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Uh, just hide the update, and it will disable all future notifications. And there's nothing "stupid" about it informing you of updates. 

 

Am I missing something? I have my Mac App Store open and I'm on the updates page. There is no option to hide the update.

I didn't informing me of updates is stupid, I said the Mac App Store is informing me of an update that when I click on it says my hardware is not up to snuff. It also doesn't give me the option to hide that update. That's the stupid part.

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Originally Posted by GadgetCanadaV2 View Post

the Mac App Store is informing me of an update that when I click on it says my hardware is not up to snuff.

 

Weird! What’re you using?

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Um... Not to correct Apple on how the decimal system works, but they can't do 10.10. It's already been done, it was called Puma! 10.1, 10.10, 10.100 = same thing.

It SHOULD be called OS XI or 11.0.

They aren't using the decimal system. They are using the format "version number" followed by a "period" followed by the "point release number". There is no law that says they can't do this. Same reason I could call the current date 2013.11.1

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Weird! What’re you using?

Well I personally use a 2012 rMBP but I have an old 2008 iMac where the message is given. The new iMovie uses openCL for rendering and my old iMac doesn't have that. I'm fine using the old version but I want to have the ability to hide the update so it doesn't appear I have a pending update to download.

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And so… that implementation… does not work. So Apple will do something different than the crap being foisted by Microsoft right now.

Each of my arms can cover 2/3 of a 27” screen. Drop that down to about half for the average person and we have ourselves a product.

I’m gonna guess that, as with phone sizes, Apple has this all worked out and knows what sizes work. Just spitballing. 1tongue.gif

Well, they don’t sell it anymore. It was an utter failure. lol.gif

The problem with the Surface (besides its software and hardware) is its purpose. It wasn’t designed to be anything to anyone. It wasn’t even designed to be everything to everyone. It was just a table.


Nope. That’s false.


Nope. 10 and 1 aren’t the same thing.

Your ability to selectively quote posts is mind boggling. 10.1 and 10.10 are equivalent in the decimal system. I don't think you understand that. Of course software numbering is not a decimal system but you seem to think that 10.1 != 10.10 in maths. Really? hahahaha
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Originally Posted by asdasd View Post
10.1 and 10.10 are equivalent in the decimal system.

 

They’re not using the decimal system. I don’t think you…

 
I don't think you understand that.

 

Oh, cool, you finished it for me.

 
Of course software numbering is not a decimal system…

 

Wait, you knew it all along. What’s with the post, then?

 
…you seem to think that 10.1 != 10.10 in maths.

 

Prove or shut up, please.

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Am I missing something? I have my Mac App Store open and I'm on the updates page. There is no option to hide the update.

I didn't informing me of updates is stupid, I said the Mac App Store is informing me of an update that when I click on it says my hardware is not up to snuff. It also doesn't give me the option to hide that update. That's the stupid part.

 

Right click the update.

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Right click the update.

Right clicking the update doesn't give me anything. No contextual menu, no nothing.

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I think Sierra sounds good for an OS.
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I really like the new OS naming theme, because it brings a little humanity back into the Mac, which is what I think the Mac was always about.
Whilst microsoft seem to have made their OS suit devices, Apple have made the OS to suit humans. Nice move.
As for a name? How about "beach babes" ;-) just kidding.
Hollywood would not be a bad move if the focus goes back to multimedia and video production.
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I'm pretty sure one of the point upgrades is going to be Mammoth. In other words, not small ;-)

Dudes! They took a surfing locale as the very first one. They could ALL be surfing related!

My favorite one of these: The Wedge.

Too bad they probably won't use that.
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Am I the only one that thought the next version was OSXX - Kim Kardashian, and OSXXX - Ron Jeremy?
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post #76 of 109
How the hell are people confused by the numbers 1 and 10? Are they dyslexic thinking it's 01 and 1?
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Can't come sooner. Mavericks has crashed on me (waking from sleep) at least 10 times. I'm talking full kernel panic, or completely unresponsive machine. Combine that with the instant sleep when I accidentally tap the power button (which on the RMBP is extremely easy to do, and *doesn't* require more than a standard keystroke to activate) that's frequently interrupting my workflow, Mavericks is a disaster. I've found other bugs as well. If you have an encrypted DMG, try and mount it. Permission denied. Even trying to create a new encrypted DMG image via disk utility, you get a permission denied error. (This has to do with the file permissions inside of the DMG, which are completely messed up. You can sudo su and take a look if you know what you're doing.) The finder is slow to refresh changes (on SMB ext2 formatted networked drives served by a router).  On my other MBP, networked drives periodically disconnect. They just drop off. Never had any of these problems with 10.8.

 

The only good thing about Mavericks is the independent displays, and even then there's some wonky behaviour if you are rotating the secondary display.

 

I'm incredibly disappointed in Mavericks. But I have hope. iOS 7 was awful for 7.0.1 and 7.0.2, and then 7.0.3 fixed *some* of the issues (although many still remain, mainly how webapps are handled and HTML5 implementation issues.)

 

/sits back and waits for the fanboys to accuse me of being a hater

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I wonder what 10.10 will have? They always seem to focus on really practical improvements (such as battery life) even if it involves system wide changes to achieve. It's quite brave from a software engineering perspective to do that actually.

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perhaps it is you who failed maths, mathematically 10.1 = 10.10

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Originally Posted by mjpwall View Post
perhaps it is you who failed maths, mathematically 10.1 = 10.10

 

We’re not doing math. Maybe spend less time on math and more time on reading.

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