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The iPad 6 (Air 2) is seriously going to kill:

Improved display
8MP camera
802.11ac
Touch ID
A8

You'll need an excuse not to buy it.
I hope it has all that, even if it is major step from previous, I just feel test will be so simular to iPhone 5(c)

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Love my new Air, i got the 64g wifi. The speed bump from the ipad3 is just incredible. I got the smart case, my new air with the case is lighter than my old ipad3 without a case.

Btw i just sold my ipad3 32g 4g for $350, reducing the cost of the upgrade.

A few benchmark:

Basemark X on screen score: 13.32 fps
Basemark X offscreen score: 15.52 fps
GFXbench 2.7 T-REX HD off screen : 1488 (27 fps)
GFXbench 2.7 T-REX HD on screen : 1152 (21 fps)
GFXbench 2.7 Egypt HD off screen : 7164 (63 fps)
GFXbench 2.7 Egypt HD on screen : 5507 (49 fps)

I wish that Egypt HD test could be a real game, looks so nice.
Just pointing out that apple is still selling 2nd gen. 16 GB for $400 but a used 3rd gen 32 gb cellular (naturally around $600 newi would guess, then another $100 for used) much better is about same price as IPad 2.

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I would have literally bet a million dollars the iPhone 5s was the only device to get Touch ID this year. And I don't think it's to keep the iPhone 5s at the top of the pile like Gruber suggested in his bollox 'forward looking' comment. I think the 2 reasons why the 5s was the only device getting Touch ID this year was: 1. product clarity, in terms of the product, the customer and marketing, and 2. to give Apple 1 year to test Touch ID in the marketplace before adding it to all of their products. Could you imagine the catastrophic failure it would be if after 6 months in the real world Touch ID started failing? Apple would have to recall every new iDevice sold over that period.

And the bonus for Apple is this time next year, when they feel comfortable with Touch ID they can start slapping it on all new high end iOS devices.

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The Air is nice but let's be honest the iOS7 is choppy on this device. The multitasking still sucks and again is choppy, the lack of 2 apps side by side is again a major short coming and 1GB of ram is a huge disservice. I can barely get 5 tabs on Safari without a refresh.

I realize if this was Microsoft people would be up in arms and rightfully so, but because it's Apple things are acceptable as always. The fact that 16GB is still priced at $499 which is woefully inadequate these days makes me laugh even more.

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Having gone from the 4s to the 5s, I totally appreciate the speed bumps. I will not touch one because I know that I will want it to replace my version 3. But using the Touch ID lets me know I want that on my next iPad, even though security is less of an issue on an iPad than an iPhone, but I still want to have it.
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No one, and I repeat no one, wants a heavier tablet.

Oh dear, it just must be me then, no one.

Look, I don't want a heavier iPad for the hell of it, I just want more hours of usage. If that means it weighed the same as my iPad 1, i.e. 730 grammes - roughly 50% heavier, I would be very happy. To me that wasn't a brick, that was light.

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10 hours isn't good enough for you?

I thought I made it perfectly clear a couple of times already. Let me restate: I would like 10-15 hours of usage. Not 7.

Everyone's different. I'm quite happy with the Air and I think that the weight savings are an impressive engineering achievement. But if I could get at least a 50% longer battery life I'd be happy to take whatever weight gains are associated with that.
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No. I never said that trade off.

Then what did you think I meant? Just a heavier iPad for the sake of it? Of course we're talking about battery life. You said it yourself in your first reply.
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Chalk me up in the "I'd tolerate a heavier iPad if it had significantly better battery life" group.

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Chalk me up in the "I'd tolerate a heavier iPad if it had significantly better battery life" group.

Even a battery sleeve like what HP does with their Pro tablet.

 

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post #126 of 170

ERROR, I was messing about with my new phone and created a few duplicate posts, I apologize for that. I was connected and surfing via a Remote Desktop session to my workstation at home, I was using my new Nokia 1020 as the client and the connection wasn't the fastest, using the slow ass Wifi connection in the hospital

 

On  a side note does anyone else have a Nokia 1020? My favorite phone of all time was the Nokia 950, this phone was not for sell through regular channels as it was a development platform for MeeGo OS, Nokia were idiots for discontinuing that OS. It took me 8 months to track one down and I paid a small fortune for it but now I think the Lumia 1020 has surpassed it a my favorite. I'm not sure why some of you dislike Windows 8 for mobile, the speed and simplicity of the UI is refreshing, the live tiles are very useful, I have found every app that I was using on my previous phone and they look and run great. The camera is absolutely insane, Auto-mode isn't very good though but who wants to use it when you can manually change every aspect of the camera's settings, the same as s DSLR. The screen is so beautiful with insanely vibrant colors that I don't think I have ever seen anything like it before. You literally cannot see where the screen ends and the bezel starts. I'm not embellishing here, you have got to see it to believe it. I'm not comparing the iPhone 5s, it's probably the better phone, so don't get too crazy when you decide to blast me for buying a phone from a company that has been a favorite of mine since my first mobile the Nokia 3810. I have over 30 Nokia phones on display in my office, I have original box's and accessories for most of them too. Before I pass away I need to find someone to give them too, the kids don't want them, and my husband will probably just throw them away. So maybe I will hold a contest where you'll have to write a a small essay as to why you like Nokia phones and what was your first.I have some real Jems here so it my be worth it to someone, their all in perfect condition and I even have a few Gold models with real Gold plating. 


Edited by Relic - 11/6/13 at 2:27pm
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Let’s be honest: not a single word in this post is the truth.

 

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There are Android smartphones with 802.11ac (HTC One, for example), but who knows how good they are.

What do you mean "who knows" how good they?

 

I knows. That's who. The fabled HTC One, on an 802.11ac data transfer, get's 2 hours of battery life. Sorry, not ready for mainstream. NEXT...

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3) Battery life. Quite a bit better but not to the extent I'd like. I'd rather an iPad that was twice as heavy if it had twice the battery life!! (I feel like I'm a voice in the wilderness on this one. Does no one feel likewise?)
 

Absolutely positively NOT. Even the suggestion is just absurd. The iPad is the standard for battery life.

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What do you mean "who knows" how good they?

I knows. That's who. The fabled HTC One, on an 802.11ac data transfer, get's 2 hours of battery life. Sorry, not ready for mainstream. NEXT...
1eek.gif How much data could you possible need to transfer to/from a smartphone. Can't think of anything that would require more than a few minutes at those speeds, probably seconds for most transfers like pics and such. Two hours is way more than anyone would require. Sounds ready for mainstream to me for those that need it.
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post #132 of 170
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Absolutely positively NOT. Even the suggestion is just absurd. The iPad is the standard for battery life.

 

They might be the standard but defiantly not the longest, the new Lenovo Yoga 8" series get's up to 18 hours, 20 hours if your just using it as a eBook reader and 13 hours while surfing on LTE, the Dell Latitude, with removable battery (a feature that I wish every tablet had) gets between 12 - 14 hours, HP ELITEPAD 900 with the battery sleeve attached gets 18 hours, reviews only show it to be about 14 hours though, the amount of assecories for it is pretty cool, the Nexus 7 v2 is 12, I can verify that the Nexus gets 11.2 hours while surfing over Wifi and 10 on LTE. My new iPad Air gets 9 hours with LTE and surprising just an extra 45 minutes of life with Wifi but just 15 minutes to the promised 10 hours so it's a pretty perfect tablet, these times are with the brightness at 50%. The only tablet that I have ever owned that actually lasted as long as what was stated in the brochure was the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7, 12 hours but I consistently got 12.5 to 13 using 3G, 14 when wireless was turned off and I just used it as an eBook. Still the best Android tablet to this date. Samsung tablets have all sucked after it though, for shame Samsung, even their new Note series, claims 10 but I don't know anyone who has gotten more than 7 with it.

 

You can see below that the Lenovo has a huge battery, so that explains a lot. Yes it's an Android tablet and defiantly not for this crowd but if Android doesn't bother you, can't afford an iPad, need a battery that lasts friggen forever, well basically slaughters everything in that regard, has had good reviews, looks different, built quality is superb, then it's defiantly worth a look.

 

 

"Our testing of both the Yoga Tablet 8 and 10 has impressed us. The outstanding build quality is better than any Samsung tablet we have used, and the low price point makes these tablets a good value proposition." CNET

 

Sorry if I sound like I'm pushing this tablet just thought it was interesting to see a tablet with such a long battery life for just 250 dollars. Lenovo is defiantly going after Google's Nexus and Samsung's crappy plastic tablets, I hope they kill'm.


Edited by Relic - 11/5/13 at 1:48pm
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post #133 of 170
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Not a paid Apple shill but -- did you get a defective product twice? I've got a first gen iPad and I never noticed sluggishness, and I can have more than 5 tabs --- though I don't like having to refresh so much.

The product specs on this are; "the Air put in a single-core score of 1,483 and multi-core score of 2,690. This compares to the current A5 Gen. 2-powered iPad mini, which managed single- and multi-core scores of 262 and 496"

OK, so the 2nd gen was twice as fast as my first gen and this one is -- 28 times as fast????? So WTF are you talking about? The iOS devices have twice the cock rate devoted to touch response (at 50ms vs 100ms Android) -- and we can presume this device would be slightly better.

I'm not presuming that every critique is bogus, but hrm, I wondering why you have such a bad time, and you got this brand new hotness right out of the gate. Do such users exist who get the "new hotness" and then complain about it immediately?

Twice the what rate? Sorry - feeling silly after an 8 hour meeting.

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post #134 of 170
I am a huge Apple fan. I was really looking forward to the new iPad but really I'm disappointed. I purchased a 64 GB Wi-Fi but have returned it. I was expecting more, but I thought no fingerprint ID no big deal. It is certainly zippier. But not really so much that it makes my iPad 4 seem slow at all. So, that was a bit disappointing considering how so many reviews talk about how fast it is. It's faster, just not enough to make a difference to me. It's lighter for sure, but the iPad 4 is not really heavy to me. The biggest issue, and the reason I returned it, is it also feels cheap. Particularly the screen. The screen feels like the screen is plastic and reminds me of a resistive touchscreen. If I was typing I cold feel significant vibration. Also each time I pressed and icon you can see the little rainbow colors under my finger. It feels like cheap plastic. Ultimately I really disagree about the quality of the iPad Air.
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I am a huge Apple fan. I was really looking forward to the new iPad but really I'm disappointed. I purchased a 64 GB Wi-Fi but have returned it. I was expecting more, but I thought no fingerprint ID no big deal. It is certainly zippier. But not really so much that it makes my iPad 4 seem slow at all. So, that was a bit disappointing considering how so many reviews talk about how fast it is. It's faster, just not enough to make a difference to me. It's lighter for sure, but the iPad 4 is not really heavy to me. The biggest issue, and the reason I returned it, is it also feels cheap. Particularly the screen. The screen feels like the screen is plastic and reminds me of a resistive touchscreen. If I was typing I cold feel significant vibration. Also each time I pressed and icon you can see the little rainbow colors under my finger. It feels like cheap plastic. Ultimately I really disagree about the quality of the iPad Air.

Obviously, speed with be noticeable with some apps, mostly games that have been updated for 64 bit and more games will be updated over time as well as other apps.

 

Any time a company puts out a new product, there is usually a speed increase, and it's noticeable on some apps, etc.  but is it a LOT faster or a little?  That's all going to depend on the app.


Now, from the thickness and weight, it's noticeable.


The other thing is when you are connected to a 802.11n network, the connection is supposed to be a lot better due to the new antenna they put inside, so that's going to be improved depending on what WiFi network you iPad is connected to.  Obviously, not all networks are 802.11n, but over time more and more WiFi will be updated to allow the dual antenna which improves the signal.

 

I can understand it not having the Fingerprint ID technology as a big deal for some.

 

I personally also own an IPad 4, and I am on the fence for upgrading to the newer model.  There are some attractive aspects of the new device, but for what I'm using my iPad 4, I opted to hold off until next year's version. 

 

Cheap plastic? They aren't using plastic, it's aluminum.  I haven't seen the effect of the rainbow colors, but I wouldn't worry about that as it's only when you press your finger on the screen and it quickly goes away.

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@funkbarton  and  @drblank

 

Both of you own an iPad 4th gen so yes, it is a slight incremental upgrade for both of you.

I am coming from a 3rd gen, which I gave to my mom so we can face time together and to me the Air does feel like a bigger jump in speed than what you're experiencing.

Beyond that, the design of the Air is just beautiful. Not iPad mini light but close enough to maybe push a few mini fans over to buy this one.

As for the rainbows when tapping the screen, I haven't seen it yet. I guess we each have our style.

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@funkbarton  and  @drblank

 

Both of you own an iPad 4th gen so yes, it is a slight incremental upgrade for both of you.

I am coming from a 3rd gen, which I gave to my mom so we can face time together and to me the Air does feel like a bigger jump in speed than what you're experiencing.

Beyond that, the design of the Air is just beautiful. Not iPad mini light but close enough to maybe push a few mini fans over to buy this one.

As for the rainbows when tapping the screen, I haven't seen it yet. I guess we each have our style.

 

I agree the Air is great.  I almost pulled the trigger and bought one to upgrade my iPad 4, but I decided to wait until next year's model.  But the Air is a nice unit.  I like the weight, the thickness and other aspects of it.  So, I would definitely recommend owners of iPad 3's and earlier to consider upgrading.  For iPad 4 owners, it's a personal decision, I'm just opting to wait another year.

 

They haven't released the iPad mini 2's yet, so I think those might sell quite well.

post #138 of 170
I'm returning mine- the camera sucks. I wasn't paying attention- thought is had the same camera as the iphone5s (which it should have).
 
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I'm returning mine- the camera sucks. I wasn't paying attention- thought is had the same camera as the iphone5s (which it should have).

 

I honestly don't think that many people are using cameras as much on tablets as they are for smartphones, at least the outward facing camera. The inward facing camera, yes.

 

To me, that's not a big deciding factor. Sure, I would wish they and the same camera/light, but unfortunately they don't, they are spending the money on the screen, processor, antenna system which are more important to most people.

post #140 of 170
I purchased the iPad Air. I come to the conclusion, Apple perfected the tablet. This tablet is amazing. Where Apple goes from here is anybody's guess.
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I purchased the iPad Air. I come to the conclusion, Apple perfected the tablet. This tablet is amazing. Where Apple goes from here is anybody's guess.

I'd say it's the most perfect tablet of 2012 but there are plenty of things to improve on in the future.
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To those complaining about the 1GB of RAM, remember one of the new features of Mavericks was memory compression, and OS X is sometimes used as a Guinea Pig for future iOS features.

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Originally Posted by funkbarton View Post
I am a huge Apple fan.

 

That’s nice; leave now.

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I agree the Air is great.  I almost pulled the trigger and bought one to upgrade my iPad 4, but I decided to wait until next year's model.  But the Air is a nice unit.  I like the weight, the thickness and other aspects of it.  So, I would definitely recommend owners of iPad 3's and earlier to consider upgrading.  For iPad 4 owners, it's a personal decision, I'm just opting to wait another year.

 

They haven't released the iPad mini 2's yet, so I think those might sell quite well.

Yes, I'm an iPad 3 purchaser who bought an iPad Air and have zero regrets: both from a performance perspective and from a handling perspective (can a pad that large be too light? This one comes close but I expect I'll get used to it..), given it's vastly reduced footprint I'm even second guessing whether, for my limited travels, I even need an LTE iPad retina mini, it certainly doesn't seem so given how much smaller it is than my 3. I'd think for a 4 owner it might be less about the performance and more about the handling as to where to come down on that decision.

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I'm returning mine- the camera sucks. I wasn't paying attention- thought is had the same camera as the iphone5s (which it should have).

Get a Nikon D800 or D800E, great images. They don't make phones calls but hey,..

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To those complaining about the 1GB of RAM, remember one of the new features of Mavericks was memory compression, and OS X is sometimes used as a Guinea Pig for future iOS features.

That's nice but compressing 2 GB of memory is better then 1GB. They did it to save on cost and keep their large margins, I'd rather pay more for it, there is no excuse, when more and more 64bit apps come online they are going to need that extra memory especially games, in the end they should have at least added it to the 64GB and 128GB versions. Stop making excuses for them, we need to as a collective customer base start to saying to them, no this isn't right or it will get worse. You can't tell me you wouldn't like to have 2GB of memory, you would I know you do, no one says oh 1GB is okay, 2GB for what, speak out man, fight em!

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That's nice but compressing 2 GB of memory is better then 1GB. They did it to save on cost and keep their large margins, I'd rather pay more for it, there is no excuse, when more and more 64bit apps come online they are going to need that extra memory especially games, in the end they should have at least added it to the 64GB and 128GB versions. Stop making excuses for them, we need to as a collective customer base start to saying to them, no this isn't right or it will get worse. You can't tell me you wouldn't like to have 2GB of memory, you would I know you do, no one says oh 1GB is okay, 2GB for what, speak out man, fight em!

Right. Like how you claim that 64-bit is only for marketing when Apple does it.
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Right. Like how you claim that 64-bit is only for marketing when Apple does it.

64bit? this has nothing to do with 64bit, we are talking about the memory available on a iPad. Am I in the wrong thread again? You go right ahead and trust everything a mulit-bilion dollar company tells you as fact.


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Yes, I'm an iPad 3 purchaser who bought an iPad Air and have zero regrets: both from a performance perspective and from a handling perspective (can a pad that large be too light? This one comes close but I expect I'll get used to it..), given it's vastly reduced footprint I'm even second guessing whether, for my limited travels, I even need an LTE iPad retina mini, it certainly doesn't seem so given how much smaller it is than my 3. I'd think for a 4 owner it might be less about the performance and more about the handling as to where to come down on that decision.

It's also dependent on the apps and comparing their 64bit version to the 32 bit version on an older model.  Going from year to year is usually a marginal improvement than every 2 years, so I'm deciding to sit this one out.    I have to save money right now, so that's my objective in the short term, but I know what to save my money for next year.

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64bit? this has nothing to do with 64bit, we are talking about the memory available on a iPad. Am I in the wrong thread again? You go right ahead and trust everything a mulit-bilion dollar company tells you as fact.

It has everything with you making stupid comments so long as they are anti-Apple regardless of your irrational you sound. I used your claim that Apple's ONLY REASON for adding a 64-bit ARM processor, AArch64, a 64-bit OS and 64-bit apps was solely for marketing reasons. You just sound like a troll when every comment you write is how a company is out to get you.
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That's nice but compressing 2 GB of memory is better then 1GB. They did it to save on cost and keep their large margins, I'd rather pay more for it, there is no excuse, when more and more 64bit apps come online they are going to need that extra memory especially games, in the end they should have at least added it to the 64GB and 128GB versions. Stop making excuses for them, we need to as a collective customer base start to saying to them, no this isn't right or it will get worse. You can't tell me you wouldn't like to have 2GB of memory, you would I know you do, no one says oh 1GB is okay, 2GB for what, speak out man, fight em!

I think as more 64-bit apps come out, the memory problems should actually lessen, because if an iPad Air is running *purely* 64-bit apps, it will have no need to load the 32-bit versions of all the shared libraries. 

 

In general lets not underestimate how much memory 1GB is. I run Linux VMs in WMware with only 1GB and can do a lot on them. Admittedly they have a swapfile (and iOS doesn't) but memory compression is just like a swapfile. Except when a page is marked as paged-out, it really just compressed and put in another region of (wired) memory (that's my guess as to how they've implemented it anyway).

 

Yeah, 2GB would always be nicer, but I'm not willing to get up in arms about it until I've tried it for myself. I have an iPad 3 at the moment and looking to upgrade. The only reason I haven't brought an Air yet is because waiting for the new Mini, to compare and contrast them before making a decision.

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It has everything with you making stupid comments so long as they are anti-Apple regardless of your irrational you sound. I used your claim that Apple's ONLY REASON for adding a 64-bit ARM processor, AArch64, a 64-bit OS and 64-bit apps was solely for marketing reasons. You just sound like a troll when every comment you write is how a company is out to get you.

At this point in time it is for marketing reasons. In a server environment, in which ARM had in tented the 64bit processor for I don't have a problem with but in a mobile class CPU until I see real results it's for marketing. Calling me a troll is not going to change my mind on these issues but if it makes you feel better you go right ahead. This is version 5 of the iPad and were still at 1GB, why is trollish to want more memory, the more apps that Apple allows you to run in the background we are going to need that extra memory. I am so tired of people just excepting what Apple tells them as the truth. I'm not a paranoid person, I don't think Apple is out to get me but they are doing everything they can to produce the least amount for the most possible buck. Thinking they have your interests in hand is just naive.

 

I'm personally going threw the angry part of my grief stage so maybe it's better to just let me be. Yuu seem to have a real problem with what I'm writing but I don't know mean any harm by it, I'm just dying. 

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At this point in time it is for marketing reasons. In a server environment, in which ARM had in tented the 64bit processor for I don't have a problem with but in a mobile class CPU until I see real results it's for marketing. Calling me a troll is not going to change my mind on these issues but if it makes you feel better you go right ahead. This is version 5 of the iPad and were still at 1GB, why is trollish to want more memory, the more apps that Apple allows you to run in the background we are going to need that extra memory. I am so tired of people just excepting what Apple tells them as the truth. I'm not a paranoid person, I don't think Apple is out to get me but they are doing everything they can to produce the least amount for the most possible buck. Thinking they have your interests in hand is just naive.

 

I'm personally going threw the angry part of my grief stage so maybe it's better to just let me be. Yuu seem to have a real problem with what I'm writing but I don't know mean any harm by it, I'm just dying. 

I'm in the camp where I think Apple should be stepping it up in the RAM dept.  I personally think 4GB for a tablet would be a good amount and on a smartphone, 2GB might be enough.

However, some of these games will see noticeable improvement just by going from 32 bit to 64 bit.  That's what the folks that make that one s/w app said at the announcement at the iPhone 5S event.

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Originally Posted by Relic View Post

At this point in time it is for marketing reasons.

So when Mike Ash, Anand and many more people I consider to be very knowledgable about processors Wrote about extensively about the benefits of the ARM64 ISA and what that means to app, especially when it comes to Obj-C you write that of as just part of the 'ol Apple marketing engine?
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So when Mike Ash, Anand and many more people I consider to be very knowledgable about processors Wrote about extensively about the benefits of the ARM64 ISA and what that means to app, especially when it comes to Obj-C you write that of as just part of the 'ol Apple marketing engine?

I said before nothing you say will change my mind, I don't know Mike Ash I'm sure he's a good programmer but most people wouldn't focus on all of that when a persons says I don't mean any harm by what I'm saying, I'm just dying, I'm angry, I'm medicated. Instead you continue on with your quest to prove you are the uber fan of all things Apple and that your right, you sir are a jack ass, shame on you. You've been a member of this board all of a few months, show some respect for yourself, especially others. This conversation is done, your blocked.

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I'm in the camp where I think Apple should be stepping it up in the RAM dept.  I personally think 4GB for a tablet would be a good amount and on a smartphone, 2GB might be enough.

However, some of these games will see noticeable improvement just by going from 32 bit to 64 bit.  That's what the folks that make that one s/w app said at the announcement at the iPhone 5S event.

Oh absolute, I'm sure 64bit will be a big hit with the gamer crowd but I have no interest in such things. The apps that I and most other people use like Evernote, iPhoto, ect won't see any real gains from 64bit for quite some time. What needs to be focused on are the benefits of the new ARM 15 Cortex design that the A7 uses, this is worth a conversation, not 64bit, that has nothing to do with the performance gains of the A7 processor.

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I said before nothing you say will change my mind, I don't know Mike Ash I'm sure he's a good programmer but most people wouldn't focus on all of that when a persons says I don't mean any harm by what I'm saying, I'm just dying, I'm angry, I'm medicated. Instead you continue on with your quest to prove you are the uber fan of all things Apple and that your right, you sir are a jack ass, shame on you. You've been a member of this board all of a few months, show some respect for yourself, especially others. This conversation is done, your blocked.

You've said that regardless of evidence you'll continue your anti-Apple crusade.

You've attacked anyone that ever has anything positive to say about Apple but then claim you are the one who has been slighted when they call you out.

As I stated, I wish would stop being so irrational.
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If there's one weak spot in the new iPads, it would be the RAM.  When the browser has difficulty keeping five open tabs loaded in memory then that's adequate at best, and not up to the high standard of the rest of the device.

 

Is there a technical reason why Apple doesn't allow iOS to use a swap file?

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Is there a technical reason why Apple doesn't allow iOS to use a swap file?

Yes. Since you know what a swap file is consider what it does and how it works, then consider how the swap files on iOS would be different from a "PC".
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If there's one weak spot in the new iPads, it would be the RAM.  When the browser has difficulty keeping five open tabs loaded in memory then that's adequate at best, and not up to the high standard of the rest of the device.

Is there a technical reason why Apple doesn't allow iOS to use a swap file?
on my Air Ive had no trouble at all thus far. I have 9 tabs open.
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