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According to a report published on Friday, the board of beleaguered smartphone hardware and software maker BlackBerry fought off proposals from tech giants Apple, Microsoft, Lenovo and others, each of which wanted to buy a piece of the company.

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Citing people familiar with the matter, Reuters reports that BlackBerry's board of directors decided against breaking up and selling the struggling company piecemeal, saying it was not in the best interest of its stakeholders. The firm was previously under consideration for a takeover bid from Fairfax Capital.

Sources said Apple was among the parties interested in buying part of BlackBerry's assets, especially as it pertained to intellectual property. Microsoft, too, expressed interest in purchasing a share of the Canadian company's patents, though details of the proposals have yet to surface.

It is unknown what patents were being reviewed for purchase, but BlackBerry has a cache of wireless technology properties that may have shown value in light of Apple's ongoing patent struggle with Samsung, Google's Motorola and other smartphone rivals.

As reported on Monday, BlackBerry ultimately took itself off the market, instead opting for a $1 billion infusion from a small group of investors. The investment could reach $1.25 billion, the company said.

In addition to the investment, CEO Thorsten Heins resigned both his position and seat on the board, with former Sybase chief executive John Chen taking over in the interim. Chen will reportedly receive a $1 million base salary, a $2 million performance-based bonus and restricted stock units worth approximately $85 million at today's prices. Those RSUs are contingent on his continued employment and will vest in chunks over the next five years.
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The title should have a 'their' before 'board'.

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The title should have a 'their' before 'board'.

At first I thought the same thing but reading it again, it makes sense that BBRY's board refused.
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AOA1! Dude, get some sleep!
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Really?

No mentioning of these recent events?

This page really is the Pravda of the tech-world...

 

Well, here are un-censored Apple Insights:

 

iPad Air EXPLODES INTO FIREBALL as terrified fanbois flee Apple Store 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/8/ipad-explodes-setting-australian-store-customers-f/

 

"An Apple iApparatchik was straight on the scene to work out why the Air had caught fire."

 

and this:

 

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/07/apfelkind-cafe-trademark-battle-apple-germany

 

("The key factor that inspired Römer to fight back was a gagging clause. At first the US company had offered a compromise whereby she could use the Apfelkind logo on her own franchise products but not on any electronic equipment.")

The new A7 chip lets the iPad Air become a fire breathing dragon. Unfortunately things got carried away after the Air tried to roast a thieving Hobbit.

 

In other news, an iPad Air was used to hit someone over the head. Press deems iPad Air very dangerous. Out of 20 million devices, we have one flameout which was probably caused by someone shoving something metal up the charging port. If this was widespread, your post may have some weight.

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"Stakeholders"? I guess that means people other than shareholders? Seems like it would be in the best interest of the shareholders to break it up and sell it off while there is anything left of value. Of corse the Canadian government would probably try to block any such thing. Maybe they are a stakeholder?
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Really?

No mentioning of these recent events?

This page really is the Pravda of the tech-world...

 

Well, here are un-censored Apple Insights:

 

iPad Air EXPLODES INTO FIREBALL as terrified fanbois flee Apple Store 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/nov/8/ipad-explodes-setting-australian-store-customers-f/

 

"An Apple iApparatchik was straight on the scene to work out why the Air had caught fire."

 

and this:

 

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/07/apfelkind-cafe-trademark-battle-apple-germany

 

("The key factor that inspired Römer to fight back was a gagging clause. At first the US company had offered a compromise whereby she could use the Apfelkind logo on her own franchise products but not on any electronic equipment.")


Save this garbage for Android fanboy blogs.

 

Apple wanting to further break into enterprise would want to purchase a piece of BB patent portfolio. Makes sense but BB leadership hates Apple and Google so much it is unlikely to sell to either.

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It looks lilt both Blackberry and the Canadian Gov't aren't too keen in outside buyouts. I'm all for national pride but not if the end result is less than selling it to an outside 3rd-party.
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As reported on Monday, BlackBerry ultimately took itself off the market, instead opting for a $1 billion infusion from a small group of investors. The investment could reach $1.25 billion, the company said.

No problem. In a year or two, after they burn through the billion or so, they'll be back up for sale for a lot less then they wanted this year. Microsoft and Apple will pick over the bones and be just as happy then as now. After Apple and Rockstar get done suing Googlerola maybe there will be some bones to pick over there too...
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Toady troll..   Got any friends in the world?

 

This is roughly his 20th account here. I'd guess not.

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Not needed! We will be banned soon, after all, this is the Pravda of the tech world where the likes of Dilger and Florian Muller rule supreme and where the truth is not welcome...

 

No, most likely you'll be banned for spam-like posts where you use massive, red, bold font to post about shit that has nothing to do with the thread, and generally being a trollish asshole. I do have to wonder what you're compensating for though, bing such a desperate attention-whore. 

 

It's like those people that interrupt speeches with shit that has nothing to do with the topic, disturbing everyone, and believe they're being escorted out for "telling the truth". 


Edited by Slurpy - 11/8/13 at 10:22pm
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Toady troll..   Got any friends in the world?

He's free to say anything he wants, this is an open forum. If you disagree with what he said then state why. Name calling is childish and frankly makes you look like you are supporting one side of the argument without knowing what the other side is all about. Your judging because you have this silly notion that you have to protect a multi-bilion dollar company who doesn't even know you exist except for the money they receive from you. If he's wrong, debate him, tell him why he's wrong.

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I hope Rockstar ends up buying BB patent portfolio. It´s the only thing left with value.

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Originally Posted by Relic View Post
He's free to say anything he wants, this is an open forum. 

 

It's not. 

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There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already fucked.

 

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There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already fucked.

 

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He's free to say anything he wants, this is an open forum. If you disagree with what he said then state why. Name calling is childish and frankly makes you look like you are supporting one side of the argument without knowing what the other side is all about. Your judging because you have this silly notion that you have to protect a multi-bilion dollar company who doesn't even know you exist except for the money they receive from you. If he's wrong, debate him, tell him why he's wrong.

I could care less about protecting Apple.  The guy was being a jerk.  As are you.   

 

There is no argument.  If he wanted to "debate" he would have posted a comment about Blackberry, which the article was about.  Not off-topic flames.  

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The new A7 chip lets the iPad Air become a fire breathing dragon. Unfortunately things got carried away after the Air tried to roast a thieving Hobbit.

 

In other news, an iPad Air was used to hit someone over the head. Press deems iPad Air very dangerous. Out of 20 million devices, we have one flameout which was probably caused by someone shoving something metal up the charging port. If this was widespread, your post may have some weight.

 

Filthy Hobbitses!

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I hope Rockstar ends up buying BB patent portfolio. It´s the only thing left with value.

 

BlackBerry really had no interested buyers. Their IP is outdated and essentially worthless.

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He's free to say anything he wants, this is an open forum. If you disagree with what he said then state why. Name calling is childish and frankly makes you look like you are supporting one side of the argument without knowing what the other side is all about. Your judging because you have this silly notion that you have to protect a multi-bilion dollar company who doesn't even know you exist except for the money they receive from you. If he's wrong, debate him, tell him why he's wrong.

No, actually he isn't free to say anything he wants. This is a privately owned website, and he is disrupting the conversation by spamming every thread with the same ridiculous post. The ad hominem attack wasn't called for, but don't pretend that the op wasn't being a jackass.
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No problem. In a year or two, after they burn through the billion or so, they'll be back up for sale for a lot less then they wanted this year. Microsoft and Apple will pick over the bones and be just as happy then as now. After Apple and Rockstar get done suing Googlerola maybe there will be some bones to pick over there too...

 

I don't see many good paths out for BlackBerry but at this point if they can find the people to pony up $1.25 bil from their perspective, why not give it another go.

 

Time to break out the popcorn though, it should be interesting to see how the MicrApple patent trolling venture goes.  They paid a hefty $4.5bil for that fishing net, should be fun to watch what they can catch with it.

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I don't see many good paths out for BlackBerry but at this point if they can find the people to pony up $1.25 bil from their perspective, why not give it another go.

 

Time to break out the popcorn though, it should be interesting to see how the MicrApple patent trolling venture goes.  They paid a hefty $4.5bil for that fishing net, should be fun to watch what they can catch with it.

 

Microsoft, Apple and others actually use the IP, and Rockstar acts as an independent company. So... goodbye. Meet the Blocker.

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No, actually he isn't freearrow-10x10.png to say anything he wants. This is a privately owned website, and he is disrupting the conversation by spamming every thread with the same ridiculous post. The ad hominem attack wasn't called for, but don't pretend that the op wasn't being a jackass.

Then call him out on it, talk to him and ask him what's up, talk him down off of the ledge.

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BlackBerry really had no interested buyers. Their IP is outdated and essentially worthless.

They have plenty of buyers, their just not biting and why should they and no their IP isn't worthless. 

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He's free to say anything he wants, this is an open forum. If you disagree with what he said then state why. Name calling is childish and frankly makes you look like you are supporting one side of the argument without knowing what the other side is all about. Your judging because you have this silly notion that you have to protect a multi-bilion dollar company who doesn't even know you exist except for the money they receive from you. If he's wrong, debate him, tell him why he's wrong.

He/it posts the same comment on numerous threads. It has no life. Most trolls drive-by but it pollutes the current discussions and continues to pollute.
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Then call him out on it, talk to him and ask him what's up, talk him down off of the ledge.

Talk him down from the ledge? WTF?!

You're free to be an unreasonable person but I implore you to be reasonable every now and then.
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Then call him out on it, talk to him and ask him what's up, talk him down off of the ledge.

 

Doing that would require feeding a troll.  It's best not to feed the trolls.

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...talk him down off of the ledge.

 

Can I just snipe him instead? Maybe he'll Wilhelm scream on the way down.

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There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already fucked.

 

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He's free to say anything he wants, this is an open forum. If you disagree with what he said then state why. Name calling is childish and frankly makes you look like you are supporting one side of the argument without knowing what the other side is all about. Your judging because you have this silly notion that you have to protect a multi-bilion dollar company who doesn't even know you exist except for the money they receive from you. If he's wrong, debate him, tell him why he's wrong.

 

The iPad in question was being removed from a security device with a screwdriver, the instructions specifically warn not to do it that way but to use the provided tool to twist it off.

 

One of the hazards of piercing a charged Lithium-ion battery with a metal screwdriver is that it can explode, which is what happened.

 

Businesses have to protect their copyrights or they risk losing them what happened in the second story is normal.

 

Back on topic, Apple should start buying BB shares and when they have enough launch a hostile take over then strip the company and keep the IP, maybe they can get Icahn to help.

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No, actually he isn't freearrow-10x10.png to say anything he wants. This is a privately owned website, and he is disrupting the conversation by spamming every thread with the same ridiculous post. The ad hominem attack wasn't called for, but don't pretend that the op wasn't being a jackass.

Then call him out on it, talk to him and ask him what's up, talk him down off of the ledge.

There are too many nut-cases on the ledge.

 

They're someone else's problem. We just want them to jump and go away for good.

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BlackBerry really had no interested buyers. Their IP is outdated and essentially worthless.

They have plenty of buyers, their just not biting and why should they and no their IP isn't worthless. 

So, what is it worth? And, who's interested?

 

It would be good if you can also provide cites.

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Hey AOA1. You always have the choice of leaving this site, so... why don't you so you can spout your brand of truth somewhere else... then, catch some extra sleep. Guys likeyou are a dime a dozen and not worth that much.
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The iPad in question was being removed from a security device with a screwdriver, the instructions specifically warn not to do it that way but to use the provided tool to twist it off.

 

One of the hazards of piercing a charged Lithium-ion battery with a metal screwdriver is that it can explode, which is what happened.

 

Got a link for that?  I can't find mention of that being the cause.


Edited by DroidFTW - 11/8/13 at 5:25pm
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I am no shareholder of them, but I think they're right there... The patents have a massive value (ask Apple... they know). This value is not going away in the few months that are coming, so the stakeholders should definitely try one more tie... and sell the patents after that if they fail.

Now again, some here would say that it's not worth trying. They oviously should also sell Apple, since one day, Apple will day, so why try 1wink.gif

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The title should have a 'their' before 'board'.
TS, good to see you back. How'd you get the banhammer in the first place?
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Originally Posted by Lord Amhran View Post
TS, good to see you back. How'd you get the banhammer in the first place?

 

Too mean to a conspiracy theorist, which is fine; I needed reigned in.

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There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already fucked.

 

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Time to break out the popcorn though, it should be interesting to see how the MicrApple patent trolling venture goes.  They paid a hefty $4.5bil for that fishing net, should be fun to watch what they can catch with it.

So true, and to think Google paid about four times that amount for MotoMo that may not even have got itself in the black yet. While the patents turned out to be worth peanuts. Meanwhile Apple and Rockstar have some real jewels in their hands... I think Christmas 2014 they may be doing a dirge as they walk Android down it's little green mile... Singing, "Ding dong, the witch is dead..."
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The iPad in question was being removed from a security device with a screwdriver, the instructions specifically warn not to do it that way but to use the provided tool to twist it off.

One of the hazards of piercing a charged Lithium-ion battery with a metal screwdriver is that it can explode, which is what happened.

Businesses have to protect their copyrights or they risk losing them what happened in the second story is normal.

Back on topic, Apple should start buying BB shares and when they have enough launch a hostile take over then strip the company and keep the IP, maybe they can get Icahn to help.

That would be a hostile takeover. I think the Canadian government would not allow that in the case of Blackberry. First, they'd load the Toronto mayor up on crack, tell him Tim was talking smack about him, and ship him to the Apple campus armed ...
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While the patents turned out to be worth peanuts.

 

I keep seeing people say this, but I don't think any of us will ever know.  To say that the patents turned out to be worthless assumes that for a patent portfolio to be worth anything that the company must aggressively sue other companies for every dime they can.  Google doesn't have a history of aggressively using their patents so money made from the portfolio from that path has been low.  However, many of Google's competitors do have quite the extensive history of aggressively using patents.  Had one of those aggressive competitors gotten ahold of Motorola's patent portfolio I think we all know Google would be one of the many targets with the newly purchased ammunition.  Would the lawsuits have cost Google more then the purchase price of the patent portfolio?  Nobody will ever know.


Edited by DroidFTW - 11/8/13 at 8:48pm
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He/it posts the same comment on numerous threads. It has no life. Most trolls drive-by but it pollutes the current discussions and continues to pollute.

For all you know it could be a bot designed to pollute the blog with irrelevant stuff for many reasons. Bad mouthing Apple. Wonder who is the bot developer working for. Microsoft , Samsung ?
A news like that would be the competitions idea of gaining an upper hand over Apples tablet offering.
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Got a link for that?  I can't find mention of that being the cause.

No but I work for Vodafone Australia, we have the same set up in our store, the iPad Air was replacing the Retina on our displays and what I described is exactly what happened.

Any more than that is not available publicly that I am aware of.
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