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post #41 of 83
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Originally Posted by bananaman View Post
 

 

Wait...

there is an android ecosystem???

 

It is a smart choice.

extra battery life for same display(brighter actually)

No one but spec whores care.

exactly how high are you??

Or do you think you can fully integrate any phone with your PCs and tablets??

or do you actually think that android is not lag land??

or do you seriously think you get all iOS apps on android??

or maybe you think the plastic case is equal to aluminium when it comes to quality??

delusional much?

oh and in case it helps you the sarcasm tag is /s.

 

Battery life is a lot better on my Note 3 that on the iphone 5s.

http://www.examiner.com/article/samsung-galaxy-note-3-and-iphone-5s-compete-for-best-smartphone

 

Is not just about specs, do you think you will enjoy better watching a movie on a non-HD TV vs a HD-TV?  Of course not!

Higher resolution allow you to enjoy more watching videos, browsing the web, writing emails, playing games, etc.

 

You don't need to install anything on your Windows PC to transfer files between the PC and the smartphone or even the SD drive.

 

My Note 3 have no lag.

 

I don't see an application that I need to use that I don't have available on the Android Market.

 

On drop test, there is no advantage between aluminum or plastic smartphones, but the aluminum ones trend to get scratch easier.  A case works for both to protect them.

http://www.phonedog.com/2013/03/16/what-s-wrong-with-plastic-smartphones/

 

The true, is that there's nothing better on the iphone 5s than on the LG G2 or the Note 3 for example.


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post #42 of 83
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First off I bough an Android Tablet about 2 years ago. POS. Total POS.  After 12 months I got no updates. Many of my apps no longer worked, ton of my apps crashed, and the apps look like crap since they were phone apps blown up.  The touch screen was unresponsive, cpu slow as hell, tons of lag.  Basically it was such a horrible user experience.  Just got the iPad Air.  I'm in heaven.  This is what a tablet suppose to be.

 

Got my Android phone about 12 months ago.  Same story.  I was stuck on an old version of Android.  Apps crashed constantly.  Some apps don't even open.  CPU is slow, TONS OF LAG.  Build quality is a joke.  Basically the same experience as my Android tablet except shrunken down.  Got an 5S a week ago.  Amazing.  I'll never go back to Android.  I don't care how much more 'expensive' Apple is.  I put expensive in quotes because after factoring in resale value, user experience, time saved, ect it ain't more expensive. 

I just sold my old 16GB iPhone 4 for $220. The resale value for iPhones is incredible totally nullifying all the "iPhones are too expensive" crap.

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post #43 of 83
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Sample too small, probably taken here on US.  Here  the iphone is considered as "cool" phone.

 

I don't see many users downgrading from a FULL HD premium smartphone to a tiny non-HD smartphone like the iphone, it's just not a smart choice.

 

However, always there are people who do not necessarily make smart decisions.

LOL. Go buy a TV, dude. What's good to have a hi resolution screen that you eyes can't tell the difference? I don't care if the phone screen go 4k because it's not different from retina with human naked eyes.

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post #44 of 83
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Originally Posted by PhilBoogie View Post

Articles like these usually attract non-iPhone users so I'd like to hear what it is that makes people switch from Samsung to Apple.

How about: Not wanting to look like an idiot with a tablet-sized phone pasted along side of their faces? Or, not wanting to make the same dumb mistake twice?
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post #45 of 83
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Originally Posted by GadgetCanadaV2 View Post

I just sold my old 16GB iPhone 4 for $220. The resale value for iPhones is incredible totally nullifying all the "iPhones are too expensive" crap.

I switched to an iPhone 5 a year ago. Was offered $20 for my mint condition HTC touch phone on eBay. There is usually a $100 minimum spread between a newer high-end Android and an older model iPhone on eBay...

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post #46 of 83
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Originally Posted by r00fus View Post

If Apple makes a 5" or 6" iPhone, there will be no reason to use a Droid other than it's cheaper or you hate Apple.

Why stop at 5 or 6 inch screen sizes? Go all the way to 7.9" and get the iPad mini with built-in radio. That way no one will be in doubt that you don't mind looking like a dufus when on the phone. 1wink.gif
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post #47 of 83
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I see posts like this and often wonder what the heck you were using for a phone. My first smartphone was a Droid X by Motorola when it was first released back in 2010. The iPhone wasn't an option as I was on Verizon and who the hell knew if it was ever coming. The Droid X was amazing phone and it never failed me in the two years I had it. When my two years were up I figured I'd give the iPhone a shot as it was my initial choice for a smartphone. It took some getting use to coming from Android, but after playing with the phone I could see why people loved it. I obviously ended up staying with the iPhone but my Android experience was a good one.

 

The reason your Droid X was "amazing" was because you were most likely using a feature phone (probably a flip phone?) and Droid X was presumably your first touchscreen smartphone.  This is equivalent to upgrading from a horse buggy to a cheap Chinese-made motor vehicle (or a Yugo for those who are old enough to remember what a Yugo is).  So your experience with Android would obviously be a good one given that you really had nothing to compare it against.

post #48 of 83
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@anadtksundaram:

Wrong. My interpretation of the data presented was completely sound. I have a social science doctorate. Any freshman in an intro stats class will know YOU have no idea what you're talking about.

Really? Why don't you then tell us what the margin or error -- say, at the 95% level -- is likely to be with calculations of sample proportion = 16% in the data, when N = 400?

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LOL. Go buy a TV, dude. What's good to have a hi resolution screen that you eyes can't tell the difference? I don't care if the phone screen go 4k because it's not different from retina with human naked eyes.

 

On a tiny 4" screen hell not, but on a bigger smartphone... yes you can notice the difference.  

 

With higher resolution you can see more on your screen and that is a lot better for browsing web pages and enjoy multimedia.  

 

I agree with you that 4K will be too much for a smartphone but for a tablet or TV it will be nice.

 

Finally, yes I may buy a 4K TV soon.

post #50 of 83
Originally Posted by Soulbearer View Post

On a tiny 4" screen hell not, but on a bigger phone... yes you can notice the difference.  

 

So you’re saying that the human eye can tell the difference between things it physically cannot tell the difference?

 

Now, Super Hi-Vision has a place on televisions over 42”. I’ve stood 20’ away from one of those 70” Sharp numbers and the pixels are big as hams. It was disgusting and horribly distracting. 

post #51 of 83
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Battery life is a lot better on my Note 3 that on the iphone 5s.

http://www.examiner.com/article/samsung-galaxy-note-3-and-iphone-5s-compete-for-best-smartphone

 

Is not just about specs, do you think you will enjoy better watching a movie on a non-HD TV vs a HD-TV?  Of course not!

Higher resolution allow you to enjoy more watching videos, browsing the web, writing emails, playing games, etc.

 

You don't need to install anything on your Windows PC to transfer files between the PC and the smartphone or even the SD drive.

 

My Note 3 have no lag.

 

I don't see an application that I need to use that I don't have available on the Android Market.

 

On drop test, there is no advantage between aluminum or plastic smartphones, but the aluminum ones trend to get scratch easier.  A case works for both to protect them.

http://www.phonedog.com/2013/03/16/what-s-wrong-with-plastic-smartphones/

 

The true, is that there's nothing better on the iphone 5s than on the LG G2 or the Note 3 for example.

 

both the 5S and Note3 have battery life to last the whole day.  Of course the Note3 does since it has a massive and heavy battery.

 

All your arguments of having a bigger screen are fine and dandy.  But the iPadMini Retina would make your Note3 look like a chump.  Much larger screen and higher resolution.  It's all about preference.  For me I want my phone to be a phone.  Not a tv in my pocket.  Note3 is a compromise product.  Too big to be a phone and way too small to be a real tablet.  Its a great product if all you can afford is one device.  Personally I bought a 5S/iPadAir.  The Air is one pound and is a hell lot better of a tablet than the Note3.  And my 5S does not break my pants pocket.

 

Don't lie about the Note3.  It LAGS.  PERIOD.  The only way to stop it from lagging is turning off all the features and rooting the device.  But then you risk getting your deviced bricked by Samsung.

 

Drop test are BS.  So are you telling me you rather get in a crash in a plastic car than a metal car?  lol.

 

And by the way the OS you are using on your BRAND NEW Note3 is now officially out of date.  I doubt you got updated to KitKat.  By next year you will be TWO FULL generations behind on OS.  That is pathetic.  In contrast the 3 year old iPhone4 gets updated to iOS7.  And good luck when you decided to sell your phone.  You'll be lucky to get $20

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post #52 of 83
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On a tiny 4" screen hell not, but on a bigger smartphone... yes you can notice the difference.  

 

With higher resolution you can see more on your screen and that is a lot better for browsing web pages and enjoy multimedia.  

 

I agree with you that 4K will be too much for a smartphone but for a tablet or TV it will be nice.

 

Finally, yes I may buy a 4K TV soon.

 

So why don't you use an iPadMini Retina? 

 

That's much bigger than Note3 and much higher resolution.  See how this game can go on forever? 

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post #53 of 83
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Originally Posted by sog35 View Post
 

 

So why don't you use an iPadMini Retina? 

 

That's much bigger than Note3 and much higher resolution.  See how this game can go on forever? 

 

I don't have the need to carry my smartphone and my table with my Note 3.  The Note 3 provide me tablet like experience at a more portable size.

 

I use my tablet at home.

post #54 of 83
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Originally Posted by GadgetCanadaV2 View Post
 

I just sold my old 16GB iPhone 4 for $220. The resale value for iPhones is incredible totally nullifying all the "iPhones are too expensive" crap.

You say this, but lots of people don't end up selling their old phones.  Many old phones are simply sitting in drawers, or more commonly, people update their phones because their old stopped working.  You can claim that apple's phones are more reliable than android, and it might be true (probably is), but when your phone goes for a swim, or you drop the phone and the screen cracks, reliability doesn't come into the question.  

 

Many people buying new phones can't rely on getting back $200+ for their old iphone, because their old iphone no longer works.  It helps the people that have functioning devices (and actually sell them), but I bet they're actually in the minority.  Reading on here the comparisons between Android and iOS are pretty amusing.  I switched this year from iOS to android after my iphone 4 went for a swim.  I now use a Galaxy S3.... I don't know if I'd call the phone "better" than an iphone 5 (the best available at the time), but it was relatively competitive for my needs.  Additionally, the S3 cost far less than the iphone.  I paid $400 for an unlocked S3, an unlocked iPhone 5 would be what.... $700?  In retrospect, I probably should have saved more money and gotten the Nexus, but I wanted to have an SD card slot on my phone.  

 

I don't expect the same quality out of a $400 phone that I'd get out of a $700 one . . . But overall, I have no regrets.  I don't really miss the iOS ecosystem, and I like the freedom I get with Android.  Sure there's a worry of Malware, but that is so overblown on these boards, as having 1000X more likely to get malware on Android than iOS (or whatever the number) is still meaningless, as the numbers are basically zero to begin with.  

 

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post #55 of 83
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Really? Why don't you then tell us what the margin or error -- say, at the 95% level -- is likely to be with calculations of sample proportion = 16% in the data, when N = 400?

Despite what you might think, I don't jump when people like you say jump. I have nothing to prove. What I will say is that margins of error mean nada when there is no data AT ALL about the population that provides context for a statistic. Furthermore, an N of 400 is uninterpretable when the size of the population and characteristics of the sample are undefined. Anyone can play with sample size to increase power and artificially boost significance.

 

And IIRC, in some other thread you challenged me to jump through hoops to prove my knowledge. I won't. You're disputing MY statement. I'm really leaving it at that, Mr. 11,000 posts, becasue I have a job. That I work at.

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post #56 of 83
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Originally Posted by Carthusia View Post
 

Despite what you might think, I don't jump when people like you say jump. I have nothing to prove. What I will say is that margins of error mean nada when there is no data AT ALL about the population that provides context for a statistic. Furthermore, an N of 400 is uninterpretable when the size of the population and characteristics of the sample are undefined. Anyone can play with sample size to increase power and artificially boost significance.

 

And IIRC, in some other thread you challenged me to jump through hoops to prove my knowledge. I won't. You're disputing MY statement. I'm really leaving it at that, Mr. 11,000 posts, becasue I have a job. That I work at.

You're the one that made a bombastic statement about the data/analysis being crap. I called you out on it, and you respond by telling me you have a PhD, I post too often, and that you have a job. In other words, you completely avoid the question.

 

The population size in this case is in the many many dozens of millions, as we know. So, whether we pick 10M, or 20M, or 200M, the margin of error will be largely invariant. You should know that.

 

As to my specific -- and trivially simple -- question to you about the MoE for the "16%" number, it would be calculated  as SQRT[p*(1–p)/N], where p = 0.16 and N = 400. That turns to be a rather low MoE of ±1.83% at the 95% level. 16% ± 1.83% suggests a significant shift from the prior proportion of those switching from Android to iPhone. (All this assumes that the sample was truly random; but there's no reason to assume it's not, unless otherwise known).

 

Of course, you knew all that, right?

 

When you post next and are called out on it, back it up.

post #57 of 83
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Originally Posted by kevliu1980 View Post
 

Ummm doesn't one need a bit more information? If one conglomerated OS sells 2-3X of the other OS, how does it make sense to compare percentages for switching?

 

Say Android had 300 million phone sales last year vs 100 million for iOS (purely theoretical numbers), then 20% of Android to iOS would be 20million users. 10% of iOS to Android would be 30 million users. Or did I miss something and did this company actually normalize for this?

 

It depends what your purpose is.  If you want to be mathematically correct, then your post above is right.  If you're more concerned about posting something that sounds more favorable to Apple, it is better the way it is.

post #58 of 83
I'm one of those Android switchers. I'd been stuck with US Cellular due to cell reception in my area. I've been waiting 6 years to get an iPhone, but had to use Android in the meantime. Android was alright, but had no interface with my Apple ecosystem. Wherever I went I carried my iPod Touch with me. US Cellular started selling the iPhone November 8th and I was waiting in line to ditch my Galaxy S3!
post #59 of 83
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both the 5S and Note3 have battery life to last the whole day.  Of course the Note3 does since it has a massive and heavy battery.

 

All your arguments of having a bigger screen are fine and dandy.  But the iPadMini Retina would make your Note3 look like a chump.  Much larger screen and higher resolution.  It's all about preference.  For me I want my phone to be a phone.  Not a tv in my pocket.  Note3 is a compromise product.  Too big to be a phone and way too small to be a real tablet.  Its a great product if all you can afford is one device.  Personally I bought a 5S/iPadAir.  The Air is one pound and is a hell lot better of a tablet than the Note3.  And my 5S does not break my pants pocket.

 

Don't lie about the Note3.  It LAGS.  PERIOD.  The only way to stop it from lagging is turning off all the features and rooting the device.  But then you risk getting your deviced bricked by Samsung.

 

Drop test are BS.  So are you telling me you rather get in a crash in a plastic car than a metal car?  lol.

 

And by the way the OS you are using on your BRAND NEW Note3 is now officially out of date.  I doubt you got updated to KitKat.  By next year you will be TWO FULL generations behind on OS.  That is pathetic.  In contrast the 3 year old iPhone4 gets updated to iOS7.  And good luck when you decided to sell your phone.  You'll be lucky to get $20

 

Nope, no lag.

 

I don't need to carry my smartphone and my table with my Note 3.  The Note 3 provide me tablet like experience at a more portable size, something you can't get on the iphone unless you carry a tablet too.

 

About the IOS7, even the old Galaxy Nexus  that I give to my son can do more that IOS7.

IOS7 actually looks like a cheap version of android

 

See here  a small list:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVTrazT99Ps

 

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Nope, no lag.

I don't need to carry my smartphone and my table with my Note 3.  The Note 3 provide me tablet like experience at a more portable size, something you can't get on the iphone unless you carry a tablet too.

About the IOS7, even the old Galaxy Nexus  that I give to my son can do more that IOS7.
IOS7 actually looks like a cheap version of android

See here  a small list:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVTrazT99Ps

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Note3 is not a true tablet experience. It's not even close to the ipad.

If note3 does not lag why can I find literally hundreds of YouTube videos about note3 and s4 lag? Are these people making sheet up?

Please save all of our time and spend your time at the android forum since you love it so much. I will say it again: you either get it or you don't when it comes to apple.
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post #61 of 83
Good article. Awful graphics.

Those graphs are terrible to figure out. It's not intuitive to know at a glance what anything is except the first represented data (beginning at 0%). Requires some math ("Let's see, 85% minus 65% equals...").

Why not use the obvious: bar graphs!

All in all, good topic.
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post
 

You're the one that made a bombastic statement about the data/analysis being crap. I called you out on it, and you respond by telling me you have a PhD, I post too often, and that you have a job. In other words, you completely avoid the question.

 

The population size in this case is in the many many dozens of millions, as we know. So, whether we pick 10M, or 20M, or 200M, the margin of error will be largely invariant. You should know that.

 

As to my specific -- and trivially simple -- question to you about the MoE for the "16%" number, it would be calculated  as SQRT[p*(1–p)/N], where p = 0.16 and N = 400. That turns to be a rather low MoE of ±1.83% at the 95% level. 16% ± 1.83% suggests a significant shift from the prior proportion of those switching from Android to iPhone. (All this assumes that the sample was truly random; but there's no reason to assume it's not, unless otherwise known).

 

Of course, you knew all that, right?

 

When you post next and are called out on it, back it up.

I do know all that. Calculating margin of error is one of the most basic of 100-level statistics. You wrote: "All of this assumes the sample was truly random; but there's no reason to assume it's not, unless otherwise known." Wow. Really? Understanding how to calculate a simple statistic using division and square root, yet not knowing how to challenge basic assumptions in absence of any documentation of methods is an error that usually, godawfully, is present in a great deal of bad statistics and the interpretation thereof.

 

My bombastic statement was a result of reading the article and noting the compete lack of evidence of any random sampling, along with what normally are very inadequate and unreliable data analysis by typical analysts. Anyone reading that article should have been highly suspicious of the stats, especially as regards (as I challenged) the generalizability of the findings.

 

Your reliance on undocumented assumptions suggests an uncritical eye toward numbers you read. Simply calculating margin of error is not the beginning and end of interpreting these numbers. How generalizable and reliable are the numbers? This is based largely on how well random sampling is conducted. 

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Originally Posted by Carthusia View Post
 

I do know all that. Calculating margin of error is one of the most basic of 100-level statistics. You wrote: "All of this assumes the sample was truly random; but there's no reason to assume it's not, unless otherwise known." Wow. Really? Understanding how to calculate a simple statistic using division and square root, yet not knowing how to challenge basic assumptions in absence of any documentation of methods is an error that usually, godawfully, is present in a great deal of bad statistics and the interpretation thereof.

 

My bombastic statement was a result of reading the article and noting the compete lack of evidence of any random sampling, along with what normally are very inadequate and unreliable data analysis by typical analysts. Anyone reading that article should have been highly suspicious of the stats, especially as regards (as I challenged) the generalizability of the findings.

 

Your reliance on undocumented assumptions suggests an uncritical eye toward numbers you read. Simply calculating margin of error is not the beginning and end of interpreting these numbers. How generalizable and reliable are the numbers? This is based largely on how well random sampling is conducted. 

Good. Unless you wish to contradict yourself -- I wouldn't put it past you -- we're in agreement that if the sampling was done right, this is a perfectly valid article and headline.

 

There is no information there, other than some silly surmise on your part, that suggests otherwise.

post #64 of 83
It looks like many of the Samsung (and LG) "switchers" are actually upgrading from feature phones.

For the ones that actually switched from Android, the main factor seems to be that there are more Android (and iOS) users this year to upgrade, compared with Blackberry and feature phone users of which there are less.
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Originally Posted by Soulbearer View Post
 

 

Battery life is a lot better on my Note 3 that on the iphone 5s.

http://www.examiner.com/article/samsung-galaxy-note-3-and-iphone-5s-compete-for-best-smartphone

 

Makes ZERO sense trying to compare a giant phablet's battery to that of a 4" devices  battery. Obviously you need a bag to carry around a Note 3.

 

Is not just about specs, do you think you will enjoy better watching a movie on a non-HD TV vs a HD-TV?  Of course not!

Higher resolution allow you to enjoy more watching videos, browsing the web, writing emails, playing games, etc.

 

The Pixel resolution on the iPhone 5s is stated as a "Retina Display". This means that the human eye can't distinguish one pixel from another at a normal viewing distance. Now why would it matter if the display becomes a 4K display, because to the human eye you cant distinguish the current number of pixels from 4K in the same 4" viewing area.

Hence your argument about not having HD screen's is flawed. The eye can't anyway tell the difference apart !

So yes it's just a Spec, that has no added value other than killing your battery life further !

 

You don't need to install anything on your Windows PC to transfer files between the PC and the smartphone or even the SD drive.

 

My Note 3 have no lag.

 

I don't see an application that I need to use that I don't have available on the Android Market.

 

You my friend haven't seen the choice of apps on the iOS store then :). It's like saying in the land of the blind the one eyed man's king. Your happy with what choices you have on the Android Store now, just because you haven't been spoiled with the choice you'll find on the iOS App Store. Which is precisely why a user moving from Apple's platform to Android will notice that lack of Apps. I can go on forever if i start naming titles.

 

On drop test, there is no advantage between aluminum or plastic smartphones, but the aluminum ones trend to get scratch easier.  A case works for both to protect them.

http://www.phonedog.com/2013/03/16/what-s-wrong-with-plastic-smartphones/

 

It's not about the material used that is at question here.. Plastic or Metal ! It's about how premium the device feels when you hold one. I hold any Galaxy or Note device in my hand and it feels cheap, just because I been spoiled with the feel of the iPhone's.

The true, is that there's nothing better on the iphone 5s than on the LG G2 or the Note 3 for example.

 

Finger Print sensors (Touch ID), 64 bit goodness with Apps that load up at twice the speed, A compact design that actually hides away in your pocket (unlike the gody big devices sticking out of your pocket), and a mature eco system that none of the others out there can match up. 

You'll also realise that buying into an iPhone 5S is not just getting one device. You buy into Apple's entire eco system.

The eco system on the Android world is going more fragmented as we speak. Every device manufacturer has his own store, and a plethora of screen size's, and device capabilities making app development for the platform a nightmare for developers. 

So think again, the truth is LG G2 and the Note 3 are utter RUBBISH, to even try to compare it to an iPhone 5S (or for that matter even its older predecessor the iPhone 5).

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Battery life is a lot better on my Note 3 that on the iphone 5s.

No.

read anand techs review

 

Is not just about specs, do you think you will enjoy better watching a movie on a non-HD TV vs a HD-TV?  Of course not!

Higher resolution allow you to enjoy more watching videos, browsing the web, writing emails, playing games, etc.

Find me a pixel

 

You don't need to install anything on your Windows PC to transfer files between the PC and the smartphone or even the SD drive.

You misunderstand "full integration"

 

My Note 3 have no lag.

explains why there are 1000s of youtube videos explaining how to remove lag from note 3

I don't see an application that I need to use that I don't have available on the Android Market.

all apple applications,infinity blade series,resident evil series,FIFA 13 and the list goes on 4ever.

On drop test, there is no advantage between aluminum or plastic smartphones, but the aluminum ones trend to get scratch easier.  A case works for both to protect them.

http://www.phonedog.com/2013/03/16/what-s-wrong-with-plastic-smartphones/

Let me introduce you the the expression 'premium feel'

 

The true, is that there's nothing better on the iphone 5s than on the LG G2 or the Note 3 for example.

not lag??64-bit apps??reader view in web browser??thousands of applications??fully integrate with other devices??top class customer care???

 

Should I go on?

post #67 of 83

Any title that asks a question, or uses the words 'more', 'many', 'lots' is extremely likely to be garbage and spin. In that respect this article did not disappoint although at least the obvious point that Android owns some 70% of the market nowadays was made. Fans of Apple corporate success should really not lose perspective: the larger game is still who grabs the growing market, not the pilfering back and forth from each competitor. I think it is fairly clear that eventually profits will follow development, and developers follow app sales wich to a degree correlates with market share. Apple's iOS is healthy; I am only suggesting that people looking for trends look in the right place.

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Should I go on?

http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articles/20378/20131016/samsung-galaxy-note-3-vs-iphone-5s.htm

"Galaxy Note 3 vs. iPhone 5s Battery

The Samsung Galaxy Note 3 has a 3,200mAh battery compared to the iPhone 5s, featuring a 1,570mAh battery. Battery life is most accurately determined through hands-on testing. Based on these benchmarks, the Galaxy Note 3 has a reportedly longer battery life than the iPhone 5s. Phone Arena states that the Samsung device gives consumers a full 24 hours before charging is necessary, compared to the Apple smartphone, capping out at roughly 10 hours."

 

Iphone 5s Laggy demostration

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY-KuPhC0Y0

 

Iphone 5s Blue screen of dead

http://www.ibtimes.com/apple-iphone-5s-having-problems-ios-703-may-fix-blue-screen-death-among-other-issues-1423544

 

Lag issues and blue screen of Dead can be solve with a software fix.

 

Android Market

The only application that are not in the Android market are the ones probably apple pay to have them exclusively.

http://play.google.com

 

Does 64-bit A7 provide any actual performance boost?  NO

"The iphone 5s has Only a gigabyte and that means there’s no point of having a 64-bit CPU and operating system since 64-bit is only effective when you have more than 4 gigabyte of physical memory."

 

You probably don't even understand what 64 bit really means, do some reading.  

 

Anyway you can believe what you want to  believe, is your choice.

 

But, personally I would much recommend the Note 3. 
The Note 3 has a beautiful display and a speedy OS, backed by 3GB of RAM and it's Snapdragon800. 
Don't forget about the expandable SD slot, longer battery life.

My hands aren't that big, but I have no problem using this phone with one hand.

 

Have fun!

 

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http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articles/20378/20131016/samsung-galaxy-note-3-vs-iphone-5s.htm

"Galaxy Note 3 vs. iPhone 5s Battery

The Samsung Galaxy Note 3 has a 3,200mAh battery compared to the iPhone 5s, featuring a 1,570mAh battery. Battery life is most accurately determined through hands-on testing. Based on these benchmarks, the Galaxy Note 3 has a reportedly longer battery life than the iPhone 5s. Phone Arena states that the Samsung device gives consumers a full 24 hours before charging is necessary, compared to the Apple smartphone, capping out at roughly 10 hours."

I call BS on that.
24 hours my foot.

http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2013/10/19/galaxy-note-3-battery-life-results-disappoint/
 

Iphone 5s Laggy demostration

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY-KuPhC0Y0

I couldn't see past 2:30.

he wasn't showing lag.

he was whining that iPhone doesn't scroll a whole lot more than you want it to when you swipe like android.

Iphone 5s Blue screen of dead

http://www.ibtimes.com/apple-iphone-5s-having-problems-ios-703-may-fix-blue-screen-death-among-other-issues-1423544

happens only to select few.

affected phones are replaced.

 

Lag issues and blue screen of Dead can be solve with a software fix.

 

Android Market

The only application that are not in the Android market are the ones probably apple pay to have them exclusively.

http://play.google.com

apple doesn't pay for iOS exclusive apps.

Does 64-bit A7 provide any actual performance boost?  NO

"The iphone 5s has Only a gigabyte and that means there’s no point of having a 64-bit CPU and operating system since 64-bit is only effective when you have more than 4 gigabyte of physical memory."

 

 

You probably don't even understand what 64 bit really means, do some reading.  

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7335/the-iphone-5s-review/4

 

Anyway you can believe what you want to  believe, is your choice.

 

But, personally I would much recommend the Note 3. 
The Note 3 has a beautiful display and a speedy OS, backed by 3GB of RAM and it's Snapdragon800. 
Don't forget about the expandable SD slot, longer battery life.

lolwut???

My hands aren't that big, but I have no problem using this phone with one hand.

I consider hands with 6 inch thumbs really big.

 

Have fun!

Stop fanboying and go back to android world where lack of common sense is appreciated.

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Originally Posted by bananaman View Post
Find me a pixel

 

I like this.

 

Originally Posted by Soulbearer View Post
The Samsung Galaxy Note 3 has a 3,200mAh battery compared to the iPhone 5s, featuring a 1,570mAh battery.

 

NO. A DEVICE TWICE AS LARGE AS THE IPHONE HAS A BATTERY WITH GREATER CAPACITY? HOLY COW. NEVER WOULD HAVE GUESSED.

 
Iphone 5s Laggy demostration

 

A YouTube video? Are you serious? How is this in any way “proof” of anything?

 
Lag issues and blue screen of Dead can be solve with a software fix.

 

Exactly. So why mention them? Fundamental OS Schmidttyness cannot be solved with a software update. Enjoy Android.

 
The only application that are not in the Android market are the ones probably apple pay to have them exclusively.

 

Do you have proof that Apple pays Epic Games, for example, for exclusivity?

 
 Does 64-bit A7 provide any actual performance boost?  NO

 

Wow. 

 
"The iphone 5s has Only a gigabyte and that means there’s no point of having a 64-bit CPU and operating system since 64-bit is only effective when you have more than 4 gigabyte of physical memory."

 

WOW.

 
You probably don't even understand what 64 bit really means, do some reading.  

 

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Irony.

 
Anyway you can believe what you want to  believe, is your choice.

 

Normally I’d agree, but what you believe is so mind-numbingly incorrect that you’re damaging everyone by believing it.

 
But, personally I would much recommend the Note 3. 

 

No one cares.

 
The Note 3 has a beautiful display and a speedy OS

 

Wait, the Note 3 is made by Apple?

 

backed by 3GB of RAM…


Which it needs to even run, whereas iOS outspeeds it on one.

 
Snapdragon800. 

 

lol.

 
…SD slot…

 

Welcome back, 2003; how’ve you been?

 
My hands aren't that big, but I have no problem using this phone with one hand.

 

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Note3 lags in stock form. PERIOD.  To deny that is a total lie.

 

First of all Android is a virtual OS so it will never be as smooth as iOS.  Proof is even the Nexus5 which has pure Android is lagging when using YouTube/Netflix (not talking about buffering but video lag with a strong internet connection) Second Samsung put their own skin over Note3/Galaxy4 which adds even more lag.  Its pathetic to see a $800 phone lagging when doing simple things such as opening the phone app or contacts.

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Note3 lags in stock form. PERIOD.  To deny that is a total lie.

First of all Android is a virtual OS so it will never be as smooth as iOS.  Proof is even the Nexus5 which has pure Android is lagging when using YouTube/Netflix ...

I've read a lot of claims you made about how Android performs for you. Which Android devices have you been using besides the Note 3? Are they entry level phones or higher end models. I don't know if it would make a difference to your experience and I agree Android may not be as "smooth" as iOS but how laggy is it really compared to your iPhone? Just not as good as iOS but still perfectly usable or is it just totally unfit?
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post #73 of 83
Sad how few people these days engage in enough critical thinking to properly interpret data like these. Think this through, and you'll realize that it doesn't mean what you think it means.
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I've read a lot of claims you made about how Android performs for you. Which Android devices have you been using besides the Note 3? Are they entry level phones or higher end models. I don't know if it would make a difference to your experience and I agree Android may not be as "smooth" as iOS but how laggy is it really compared to your iPhone? Just not as good as iOS but still perfectly usable or is it just totally unfit?

 

look at some video's on Youtube.  It shows almost every single Android phone has lag.  It was particularly bad on the Galaxy S4.  But the Note3 and even the Nexus5 is showing lag.

 

My Android phone was a mid range phone but I've seen my friends S4 and lags.  He minimized some of the lag by turning off features and even rooting it.  But it still has lag

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I think many have pointed out that the survey size is too small.

But even if it is representative of what is happening in the world this result is very bad news for apple.

Data suggests that 80% of smart phones sold in the world are android. Apple has 12%. Now if 20% of apple owners come from android then for each 100 smart phones sold in the world 2.4 switched from android to apple. If the Samsung data represents whole of android (not a bad assumption given the data thrown around) then 7% of android users come from apple. That is 5.6 switched from apple to android per 100 phones sold. Hence apple is losing market share according to this statistics (which is actually true)
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I think many have pointed out that the survey size is too small.

But even if it is representative of what is happening in the world this result is very bad news for apple.

Data suggests that 80% of smart phones sold in the world are android. Apple has 12%. Now if 20% of apple owners come from android then for each 100 smart phones sold in the world 2.4 switched from android to apple. If the Samsung data represents whole of android (not a bad assumption given the data thrown around) then 7% of android users come from apple. That is 5.6 switched from apple to android per 100 phones sold. Hence apple is losing market share according to this statistics (which is actually true)

the thing is....

your name is math guy.

and you failed a simple fermis problem by pulling stuff out of the blue.

post #77 of 83

Interesting sample. You hear a lot about Apple supposedly going downhill and Android taking over for the next generation of smartphones, but this proves otherwise. Apple is doing very well, despite Steve Jobs' death.

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Originally Posted by zerobim08 View Post

Wow.  This is the level of intellect that you can come out with to counter?

 

Everything you say is wrong. Don’t expect anyone to waste their time disproving your troll posts.

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Nice going.  You said there are thousands of youtube video that show Note3 lags but you didnt give any links.

But when someone shows you a link which shows new 5S lags compared to last year Nexus4, you dismissed it giving lame excuses.

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wqt2m4k7cV8

The video he showed didn't show lag.

It was you tubes biggest android bithching about how you don't have a few features on iPhone and calling it "lag"

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wqt2m4k7cV8

The video he showed didn't show lag.

It was you tubes biggest android bithching about how you don't have a few features on iPhone and calling it "lag"


That's one big problem of iOS isnt it?  System-wide scrolling lag.  Whether you want to admit or not scrolling on iOS is pretty lethargic and slow compared to Android.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH1GDLunomY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Dn-8aR_Ht4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY-KuPhC0Y0

 

And all you show is ONE app which lags in Note3 and you label the the whole phone lags.    I can make a video of how Safari lags in loading up few tabs or some ill-programmed app lags and then label 5S as a lag fest.  But I won't do that because that is naive.  As you can see from your video, it is not Note3 that lags.  It is the app that has issue.  I believe the app was My Magazine which is a derivation of Flipboard.  Flipboard app doesnt have that kind of lag. 

 

iOS has SYSTEM-WIDE scrolling lag and you call that "slow scrolling" a feature.  :p

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