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Apple's rumored 'iWatch' said to have different screen sizes for men, women

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Apple's widely rumored entry into the wearable device category will feature an OLED display and come in two screen sizes --?1.7 inches for men and 1.3 inches for women --?according to one industry analyst.

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AppleInsider was first to discover an Apple patent filing describing a watch design with flexible display.


David Hsieh, head of the the greater China market for supply chain analysis firm DisplaySearch, cited sources inside Apple when sharing the information at an industry conference in Taiwan on Wednesday, according to The Korea Herald. Hsieh is well-connected in the display industry and has a history of accurately predicting Apple's moves in the field.

An October report from the same publication suggested that South Korean electronics giant LG was nearing an agreement to supply OLED displays for Apple's so-called "iWatch." If true, it would mark Apple's first use of the relatively new display technology.

Rumors of a wearable device from the Cupertino, Calif.-based company have been circulating for years, and have picked up significantly in 2013. Apple is said to have a team of more than 100 employees working on the project, and has snapped up industry experts in fashion, wearable devices, and fitness throughout the year.

The "iWatch" is rumored to carry a wide array of biometric sensors, and many believe it will function as a stand-alone product, rather than be dependent upon another Apple device in the way Samsung's Galaxy Gear smartwatch is. Noted analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said in May that he expects the "iWatch" to hit shelves in the second half of 2014.
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While not depend on an iPhone, I'm betting it will enhance the experience when connected.
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Fearless (or reckless) prediction: When the iWatch is finally introduced, it will be like no previous Apple product intro. It will be as much 7th Avenue, NY as One Infinite Drive, Cupertino. Ms. Ahrendts will probably be taking a turn at the mike and aside from app devs, the partners that will be introduced will include some notable fashion houses.
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But will it use a stylus? /s

I'll believe it when I can buy it.

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I'm still convinced the whole "iWatch" rumor is a ruse by Apple designed to get Samsung et al to waste resources developing something nobody really wants.

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At present, can't think why I would want one
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As usual I am prepared to be convinced.
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I'm still convinced the whole "iWatch" rumor is a ruse by Apple designed to get Samsung et al to waste resources developing something nobody really wants.

Yep.

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Apple will have keynote soon . Second half ? Why not say the year 2099 ?
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I'm still convinced the whole "iWatch" rumor is a ruse by Apple designed to get Samsung et al to waste resources developing something nobody really wants.

I don't see it either. I think this is a niche market and too small to have any effect.
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SAMI can't wait to start their Xerox machines ....

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Industry moron.
Citing unnamed sources with limited but direct knowledge of the rumoured device - Comedy Insider (Feb 2014)
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Does the M7 co-processor give any hints about this kind of product? Can it function on it's own and run the whole device or is it limited to the co-processor role? I bet if Apple does come out with an iWatch it's only called that because of where it is worn. There will be more to it than a time piece and notification screen for your phone. The whole talking into your watch like Dick Tracy thing isn't that appealing either.

 

Traditional watches are an extension of one's style too, their appearance can be just as important as their function. I didn't wear the same watch to a wedding as I did to work. Apple is very aware of how things appear. I guess they could use parallax on the display and make it look like anything from a Swiss quality watch with moving hands to a Casio digital :)

 

Personally I don't look forward to wearing a watch again! I have seen the Samsung mini wrist brick and am not impressed. The Pebble watch also didn't seem very impressive (haven't seen one in real life yet). 

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I don't see it either. I think this is a niche market and too small to have any effect.

In fairness, that's what they said about the iPad. I guess we will find out if it is a niche market or open up something new for Apple. Assuming that the thing actually comes out, I mean.

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I'm still convinced the whole "iWatch" rumor is a ruse by Apple designed to get Samsung et al to waste resources developing something nobody really wants.

I have often wondered about that and same of 'Smart TV' ... Really they are working on WiFi enabled cufflinks and tie pins in reality 1wink.gif
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post #15 of 81
I still maintain the killer feature of an iWatch should be music playback ('should be'). If Apple could figure out an elegant but practical solution to a pair of wireless headphones (tiny iPod style ones) that allows the user to listen to music from and controlled by a device mounted on the wrist that would be a desirable iPod-killing product. It would be the most awesome music playback device for athletes of all kinds worldwide. A product that deserves to exist. Health, pedometer sensor, heart rate monitor and iPhone connectivity would be its bonus features.
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I truly wish -- if the watch happens -- that Apple will de-genderize the categories to say "Large Wrist" and "Small Wrist." They can sell more watches, to large-wristed women and small-wrested men.

 

If you have wrists like mine, a 1.7" watch looks like a dinner plate attached to my arm.:\

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There are only a few million people who buy luxury watches in the world. But they also are the wealthiest.

The LUXURY watch market ALONE - lead by Rolex and Omega - is a $16 BILLION market.

This is larger than the movie industry. And this is close to the size of the video game market.

As a NICHE market, it is substantial. The leaders only have to sell a few thousand watches. And the buyers are those Apple is interested in - the affluent consumers.

And if Apple were able to generalize the sales to a larger set of consumers - to include sport watches, Timex watches, etc., particularly with a higher price point similar to the iPod - then it stands to make a substantial amount of money.

Certainly it is a potentially LARGER amount of profit than Apple would gain from AppleTV.

This is the motivation behind the iWatch.
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In fairness, that's what they said about the iPad. I guess we will find out if it is a niche market or open up something new for Apple. Assuming that the thing actually comes out, I mean.

And the iPod before that.

 

It's all about ubiquitous computing that you don't even think of as computing (see iPhone).  It won't be a "watch" any more than the iPhone is a "phone."  I used my iPhone maybe 50-100 times a day and make about 3 phone calls a week.

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In fairness, that's what they said about the iPad. I guess we will find out if it is a niche market or open up something new for Apple. Assuming that the thing actually comes out, I mean.

That's true but I already have a watch. We'll have to wait and see.
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There are only a few million people who buy luxury watches in the world. But they also are the wealthiest.

The LUXURY watch market ALONE - lead by Rolex and Omega - is a $16 BILLION market.

This is larger than the movie industry. And this is close to the size of the video game market.

 

Those are impressive figures!  1.6 million $10,000 watches every year (or 16 million $1,000 watches)?  The mind boggles.

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I'm still convinced the whole "iWatch" rumor is a ruse by Apple designed to get Samsung et al to waste resources developing something nobody really wants.

While neither I not anyone else can say where this rumor comes from I think it's clear that Apple is not only interested in wearable computers but have already spent much time and resources exploring the options.

Wearable computers are coming and coming hard and Apple would be remiss to ignore this inevitable market. I'm using my Fitbit Force right now. Simple, sleak, connects to my iPhone 5S via BT4.0, and the battery lasts a week between charges (but I do it during showers so it's always full).

This rumor of two sizes does make sense and if the technology isn't yet here it's almost here. OLED also makes sense for power use of controlled display; not for a smartphone where you're not trying to maximize blacks at all times.
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That's what they said about the ipad. Don't underestimate.

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At present, can't think why I would want one
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As usual I am prepared to be convinced.

I know EXACTLY what you mean!

 

Before a Mac and iPhone I saw no need for these in my life. Until, I got to use one and suddenly it all changed. Especially iPhone (as it was my first Apple product)!

 

When I swapped to iPhone I must admit I felt a little limited in what it did etc, but it WORKED. The more updates and iOSs they release the more pleased I am. I now have iPhone 4s and saving for 5s. But 6 seems to be the magic number! Should I wait?

 

I still can't see the form factor of iWatch in front of me. It will really have to be a gamechanger of a product to succeed. Like  Strix said, I am prepared to be convinced.

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I want one

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Those are impressive figures!  1.6 million $10,000 watches every year (or 16 million $1,000 watches)?  The mind boggles.

I thought the movie industry was larger?

 

http://www.ibisworld.com/industry/global/global-movie-production-distribution.html

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I thought the movie industry was larger?

http://www.ibisworld.com/industry/global/global-movie-production-distribution.html

http://www.census.gov/econ/

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There are only a few million people who buy luxury watches in the world. But they also are the wealthiest.

The LUXURY watch market ALONE - lead by Rolex and Omega - is a $16 BILLION market.

This is larger than the movie industry. And this is close to the size of the video game market.

As a NICHE market, it is substantial. The leaders only have to sell a few thousand watches. And the buyers are those Apple is interested in - the affluent consumers.

And if Apple were able to generalize the sales to a larger set of consumers - to include sport watches, Timex watches, etc., particularly with a higher price point similar to the iPod - then it stands to make a substantial amount of money.

Certainly it is a potentially LARGER amount of profit than Apple would gain from AppleTV.

This is the motivation behind the iWatch.

 

The business model for iWatch would be Swatch sent at least two notches up market.  Not as many people wear watches anymore, but of   those who do, a lot of them own more than one watch.  It is first and foremost a fashion item and people wear watches that match their whole outfit.   So figure a person (I'd like to say woman, but that's sexist :-) ) owns about as many watches as she has shoes. Or shoe categories: formal, sporty, casual, elegant, rugged, etc.

 

And before we just resign ourselves to accepting that not that many people wear watches anymore, just remember this is Apple, and they have the uncanny ability to make something that you never thought you'd need, indispensable.

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[quote name="malax" url="/t/160712/ I used my iPhone maybe 50-100 times a day and make about 3 phone calls a week.
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Ditto here!
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Apple isn't going to release two different screen sizes segmented by sex. Silliness. iApparel will be Apple's second biggest business in due time, however. A combination of Fashion + Tech + biometrics will be the next big thing.
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I'm still convinced the whole "iWatch" rumor is a ruse by Apple designed to get Samsung et al to waste resources developing something nobody really wants.

 

I essentially agree with you. Apple likely knows through research whether or not a watch would fly.

 

I mean, so few people wear watches anymore. The younger people are it seems the less likely they care to wear one.  I'm not sure what a watch could do to enhance my life/experience.

 

iWatch could really be the television.

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The leaks may be a red herring, but I doubt the product is. There's going to be Apple iApparel of some kind.
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I'm still convinced the whole "iWatch" rumor is a ruse by Apple designed to get Samsung et al to waste resources developing something nobody really wants.

That, and also to trace and pin down the leak sources.
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I don't see it either. I think this is a niche market and too small to have any effect.

 

So were tablets.

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Personally I think we will have an iGlove instead of iWatch

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Can AI check their logs to see if any Samsung-owned IP addresses are all over these iWatch stories? Curious.
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I truly wish -- if the watch happens -- that Apple will de-genderize the categories to say "Large Wrist" and "Small Wrist." They can sell more watches, to large-wristed women and small-wrested men.

 

 

I could not agree with you more. It's baseless speculation -- and a little insulting -- that it'll be separated for genders. That's simply not helpful at all.

post #37 of 81
It's hard for me to see the "value added" of an Apple entry into the wearable tech fad. At best it offers a limited subset of what a phone offers with the only upside being closer at hand (literally). Not sure what Apple can add that's not already out there other than tight integration. Apple having been sandbagged, what they offer will be deemed a failure unless it takes the world by storm. Damned if they do, damned if they don't.
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So were tablets.

Emphasis on were, as in "before iPad."

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post #39 of 81
Duh! Different sizes for men and women? That's just sensible marketing. Men's watches are usually larger than those for women, and it's men who like those huge G-Shock watches.

I wonder if gadget fatigue will soon set in. I recently consolidated the two iPhones I was carrying into one and found it delightful. One less device to worry about. This iWatch will mean yet another thing to remember when we go out. Some may say, "Why bother?"

Apple has to get a younger generation, many of who use their cell phone as a watch, to begin to wear watches again. And that's not dealing the fact that young adults soon be hit with outlandish (for their age) Obamacare payments on top of paying back those college loans and getting stuck in dead-end jobs for years after graduation.

Apple may need to change its marketing target from Young Actives at Play to Old Geezers with Money. Show them glancing at that iWatch as they board their private jets.
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I think one of the main problems with the watch is it takes both hands to use it. One to roll it over and in one to press a button. I've gotten used to my iPhone where I carry in one pocket with one hand and can do what I need to do … with one hand
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