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Review: Apple's second-generation iPad mini with Retina display

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Apple's second-generation iPad mini squeezes a high-resolution Retina display -- one with an even greater pixel density than the iPad Air -- into its diminutive form factor. It's an impressive technical achievement, but one that comes at a greater cost to customers.

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Released this week in time for the holiday shopping season, the new iPad mini with Retina display starts at $400 for the 16-gigabyte Wi-Fi only model. Capacity can be doubled, all the way up to 128 gigabytes, at $100 increments, while cellular-capable models carry a $130 premium.

Those prices are $70 more than Apple sold the first-generation iPad mini for when it debuted a year ago. But the extra cost is attributed to the device's new high-resolution display, which features the same number of pixels as the iPad Air screen, while packing them into a much smaller 7.9-inch size.

The Retina iPad mini also comes in two color options: a "space gray" aluminum back with a black front, and a "silver" model with white front. For this review, our test model was the entry-level, Wi-Fi-only 16-gigabyte model in white and silver.

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The addition of the Retina display to Apple's iPad mini is not unlike when the company first introduced a Retina display in the full-size third-generation iPad. The design remains the same, though Apple has had to sacrifice some weight and thickness to drive a much greater pixel count.

The Retina display in the iPad mini is a much greater technical achievement, though. Apple has managed to retain the same resolution as the full-size iPad Air, allowing developers to create applications at one screen resolution and have them instantly compatible with both the iPad Air and iPad mini.

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Left: First-gen iPad mini. Right: iPad mini with Retina display.


One look at the iPad mini's display is all it takes. This is a truly impressive screen that makes text much easier to read and general usage far more pleasant.

Comparing the Retina iPad mini side-by-side with Apple's first-generation model only emphasizes the improvements even more. While text on the first iPad mini is muddy and pixelated, it's crisp and clear on the Retina iPad mini.

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Left: First-gen iPad mini. Right: iPad mini with Retina display.


The Retina display alone makes the second-generation iPad mini a worthy successor. It addresses the one major failing of Apple's introduction to the smaller tablet market in 2012, and it does so impressively.

But while the Retina display is the only significantly noticeable outward-facing change with the second-generation iPad mini, Apple has also made significant improvements on the inside with its 2013 refresh.

Performance



Apple is once again flexing its chipmaking muscles with the new iPad mini, bringing the same A7 chip the company has already offered in this year's iPhone 5s and iPad Air. And once again the A7 manages to impress, driving the device's high-resolution screen and running gorgeous applications without so much as a hiccup.

It's worth noting that the inclusion of the A7 chip in the second-generation iPad mini is an even more significant upgrade than this year's iPhone and full-size iPad saw. That's because last year's iPad mini was driven by the two-generations-old A5 chip, meaning the inclusion of the A7 chip offers an even larger performance boost.

Tests show that the new iPad mini's processor gives it 5 times more power than last year's first-generation iPad mini. In comparison, the iPad Air is twice as powerful as the fourth-generation iPad.

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Of course, the A7 chip is somewhat of a necessity in this year's iPad mini simply because of the Retina display. Driving that many pixels is taxing on a processor, as evidenced by the sometimes sluggish A5X chip performance seen with Apple's third-generation full-size iPad -- the first iPad to have a Retina display.

Thankfully, Apple didn't skimp out on this year's model, and gave the iPad mini a processor that's powerful enough to push those more than 3 million pixels displaying iOS 7, and presumably future software updates from the company for years to come.

The 64-bit A7 CPU in the new iPad mini is clocked in at 1.3 gigahertz, which is slightly slower than the iPad Air's 1.4 gigahertz, to conserve battery life. In our comparisons, any performance differences between the iPad Air and Retina iPad mini were negligible, with apps launching at about the same speed and websites loading around the same time.

Design



The power of the new iPad mini has necessitated some subtle design changes. The new model is ever-so-slightly thicker and heavier than last year's model, but frankly these changes will be unnoticeable to most users.

The Retina iPad mini is 7.5 millimeters thick, which is 0.3 millimeters thicker than the first-generation model. The new iPad mini also weighs in at 331 grams, which is an increase from the 312 grams of last year's version.

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Retina iPad mini (top) is just slightly thicker than the first-gen tablet.


Unless a user is holding a first- and second-generation iPad mini in their hands simultaneously, these changes will not be readily apparent. We view the added heft to ensure long battery life as perfectly acceptable, given the inclusion of the powerful A7 chip and beautiful Retina display.

The only other noteworthy change to the external design of the iPad mini is the inclusion of dual microphones. Like the iPad Air, the new iPad mini features one microphone on the rear of the device, for better sound when recording video, and one up top, for hearing a user's voice when using FaceTime video chat.

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The cameras on the iPad mini remain the same: a 5-megapixel rear facing iSight camera, and a 1.2-megapixel forward facing FaceTime HD lens.

And the rest of the iPad mini's design remains the same, with stereo speakers and a Lightning port on the bottom, volume buttons and a mute/rotation lock switch on the right side, and a lock button and 3.5-millimeter headphone jack up top.

Like the iPad Air, the Retina iPad mini also lacks the Touch ID fingerprint sensor Apple introduced on the iPhone 5s. This feature will likely appear in a future iPad mini update, but we believe it would be better aided on the iPad lineup by the addition of multi-user support in iOS.

Finally, because the design is largely unchanged, any of Apple's Smart Cover and Smart Case accessories work perfectly fine with the second-generation tablet. Accordingly, third-party cases and accessories should also continue to fit the new model.

Conclusion



While Apple got almost everything right with the Retina iPad mini, there is a catch: The cost for every model has increased by $70 from last year's prices. The starting price for the iPad mini with Retina display is now $400.

And while Apple's iOS ecosystem is unparalleled, the cost for hardware does not compare favorably with the iPad mini's chief competition. For example, Amazon's new Kindle Fire HDX sports a comparable high-resolution display, though it's smaller at just 7 inches diagonally in a 16:9 ratio.

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Amazon's offering starts at just $229 for a 16-gigabyte model with "special offers." Removing ads from the entry-level Kindle Fire HDX puts the price at $244, or still more than $150 cheaper than Apple's cheapest iPad mini.

Google's latest Nexus 7 also has a high-resolution display at a smaller 7-inch 16:9 screen size than the iPad mini. It starts at $229 for the 16-gigabyte model, and a maxed-out 32-gigabyte Nexus 7 with 4G LTE connectivity can be had for $349 -- $50 cheaper than Apple's Wi-Fi-only 16-gigabyte Retina iPad mini.

To counter this, Apple continues to offer the first-generation 16-gigabyte iPad mini for $299. This is a compelling option, but the lack of a high-resolution Retina display makes this tablet difficult to recommend.

Frankly, we feel the relatively premium pricing on the Retina iPad mini is worth it, though Apple does get dinged for being considerably more expensive than the competition.

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But with a form factor ever so slightly thicker and heavier than last year's model, the new iPad mini does not feel like a revelation in your hands -- unlike the drastically redesigned, thinner and lighter iPad Air. In the current marketplace, the iPad Air is clearly head and shoulders above every other tablet in its class, while the iPad mini faces more aggressive competition with cheaper prices in its market segment.

That said, Apple's iPad mini with Retina display remains an easy recommendation. It features best-in-class software and hardware, and is backed by the strongest mobile ecosystem available.

Score: 4.5 out of 5



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Pros:


  • Apple's Retina display standard once again lives up to the hype
  • The 64-bit A7 chip's performance impresses, just as it did on the iPad Air & iPhone 5s
  • Same great lightweight, ultraportable design as last year


Cons:


  • Though lower-priced competition continues to improve, Apple has increased the iPad mini price by $70
  • Limited supply could make the Retina iPad mini hard to get for the holidays
  • Some may want to wait for Touch ID in a future model


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The almost perfect tablet. Next year it will be perfect with TouchID. Still, it will sell tens of millions

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post #3 of 160
Both google and amazon lose money on every tablet they sell. This is not a business model Apple is about to compete with in pricing.
post #4 of 160

Limited supply => high price

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"While text on the first iPad mini is muddy and pixelated, it's crisp and clear on the Retina iPad mini."

Something tells me that if I look up the review of the first iPad mini. the words "muddy and pixelated" will appear nowhere within...

Ok, went back to the original review and found this:
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To achieve this light and thin design at a reasonable cost, Apple didn't include a Retina Display. However, because the screen is reduced in size, it delivers better screen sharpness and less obvious pixelation than iPad 2, which shares the same resolution at a lower pixel density (iPad mini is 163 ppi vs iPad 2's 132 ppi).

The result is that, while the iPad mini doesn't have the razor sharp, "electronic glossy magazine" appearance of the Retina display iPad, it's also noticeably less pixelated looking than the original iPad. It's hard to accurately capture this in a photograph without minimizing or exaggerating the difference, but below you can see the difference between a standard iPad (top), Retina display iPad (middle) and the iPad mini.

Things that make you go hmmm....
Edited by vaporland - 11/14/13 at 10:12pm
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I do wish Apple would price the memory jumps in $50 increments rather then $100.
post #7 of 160
An 8" iPad Mini is 30% larger your el cheapo comparisons. And it is over twice and fast and infinitely better looking. Why make such pointless comparisons?
post #8 of 160
Good to see a review that doesn't simply cover the good things and not the bad things which isn't uncommon at AI.

To me an integrated SD card feature would be more valuable than say a touch ID.
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An 8" iPad Mini is 30% larger your el cheapo comparisons. And it is over twice and fast and infinitely better looking. Why make such pointless comparisons?

 

Good point!

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The almost perfect tablet. Next year it will be perfect with TouchID. Still, it will sell tens of millions

 

I don't see any special need for that. It will be included when technology will be cheap enough and used mainly for unlocking the device. Touch ID on iPhone is totally different story. It is starting point for making iPhone as perfect shopping/payment/identification device. iPad is perhaps generally to big device for that.

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I rather get a MacBook Air with a full OS inside instead the iOS toy!
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I rather get a MacBook Air with a full OS inside instead the iOS toy!

 

What an insightful post. Do you have a newsletter I can subscribe to? Next time you decide to post something so moronic, at least try to string together a few words without massacring the grammar. 

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As much as I like the mini format I was sold by the reduced weight of the Air
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An 8" iPad Mini is 30% larger your el cheapo comparisons. And it is over twice and fast and infinitely better looking. Why make such pointless comparisons?

Exactly. I don't get why the iPad Mini is always compared to inferior competition. Besides being over twice as fast and better looking, I prefer tablet optimized apps. Not stretched out phone apps on tablets you see with Android. Plus, you have an unmatched eco system and don't forget resell value.  

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"While text on the first iPad mini is muddy and pixelated, it's crisp and clear on the Retina iPad mini."

Something tells me that if I look up the review of the first iPad mini. the words "muddy and pixelated" will appear nowhere within...

Ok, went back to the original review and found this:
Things that make you go hmmm....


That's what really irks me about reviewers.  I suppose the reviewers hope that no one will go back on call them on their prior reviews.  The 1st-gen Mini was fine.  Sure, the retina looks nicer as we all expected, but the original was no slouch on the eyes.  "Muddy and pixelated" is not how I describe it, and certainly they did not say anything near to that when the first one came out.

Idiots.

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Why do you guys come into the forum and bitch about the story? If you hate this website so much go somewhere else. The comments are supposed to be for discussion on the topic, not fact-checking and ripping the article. They have editors for that.

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To be fair, a year has passed so standards are much higher.  The reviewer of the first iPad mini mentioned that it was not as good as the retina iPad3 but better than the non retina iPad2.  Which is true.  In terms of the adjectives used, it really depends on the standard.

 

If you ever read graphics card reviews, most new GPUs are 'super fast, very smooth, high-end' at release.  One year later, the same GPU is basically repackages and it is described as 'good for value, mid- level' card.  It doesn't really mean the reviewers are dishonest, the standard is just different.

 

If you read the original iPhone reviews, you would see it was raved for its large display.

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Limited supply => high price

They have the EXACT same pricing as they've always had for the same amount of storage and WiFi or Cellular models. 

 

They are just limited in supply of certain models due to demand and production levels.  

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I rather get a MacBook Air with a full OS inside instead the iOS toy!

And a MacBookAir isn't a tablet and they are more expensive.   It's a totally different product.   There are certain things that one would use a laptop and some things a person would use a tablet.

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Wow, you spend a quarter of the review describing what it's like to look at a retina display. Is it really necessary anymore to review a something as consistent as a retina display?

It doesn't come as a surprise to anyone on this website anymore that the addition of a retina screen would make text crisper, the old model look blurry in a side-by-side comparison, require more battery and processing power etc. etc. Since 4 years ago with the iPhone 4, Apple's been adding the retina display to its devices as it's become affordable. Each time, with the iPhone, iPad and MacBook Pro, it's been a consistent upgrade. When did battery size or processor power not increase for the sake of retina, or when did Apple change resolutions that you need to report these mundane and exhausted details in a hands-on review?

The Retina Screen really doesn't need a hands on review anymore at this point, even if you're struggling to write a full review on an incrementally upgraded product.

Also, you only mention the retina screen as the main reason for the price increase, in the price segment of the article,

"the extra cost is attributed to the device's new high-resolution display"

It's worth noting that the previous generation iPad mini was aimed to be an economical iPad and was released with a 2 generation old processor while the iPad mini retina comes with the latest chip. That's going to make the product just a little more expensive to manufacture.

The dozens of rumor sites, hundreds of self-proclaimed online product reviewers, and various tech bloggers are diluting the quality of tech journalism. Stick to following rumors and leave the reviewing to the big boys.
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I went to my local Apple Store after work today to buy one and there was a sign by the entrance saying the iPad Mini with Retina Display was only available with online booking first. So I went home and found the booking page and my local store was out of stock. Oh well, maybe next week.

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I disagree that the 1st generation iPad Mini is difficult to recommend.

1) It is still an iPad that can run all iPad apps;
2) It is lighter and thinner (albeit marginally) than the 2nd generation iPad Mini;
3) It costs significantly less than the 2nd generation iPad Mini after the recent price cut;
4) If you have less than stellar near-sight vision there is little benefit of the increased resolution.

I find the 1st gen iPad Mini very easy to recommend.
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So what about this washed out screen people on MacRumors are bitching about? I have yet to see it mentioned in a real review yet some people over there aren't getting a mini because of it.
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Wow - those are amazingly useless photos of the two screens on the first page of the review.

What were they taken with, a ten-year-old cellphone camera?

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I CAN'T STAND THIS BULL SHEET!!!

 

For the last time stop comparing the iPadMini to the Nexus7/KindleHD7!  Those tablets are MUCH smaller.  Just stop it.  You need to compare the mini to the Nexus10 and HDX8.9.  This is seriously pissing me off.  I own a Kindle7 and its way smaller than the mini.  To a point that they are not even comparable.

 

Nexus 10 - $399

Kindle HDX 8.9 - $394

iPadMini R - $399

 

So wheres the price difference now?  Add to the fact the Mini will sell for a good $150-$250 if you decide to resell it in a year or two.

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Interesting report this morning: Number crunchers come up with Android tablet revenue exceeds what Apple sees from iPad sales.

http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS24420613
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I CAN'T STAND THIS BULL SHEET!!!

For the last time stop comparing the iPadMini to the Nexus7/KindleHD7!  Those tablets are MUCH smaller.  Just stop it.  You need to compare the mini to the Nexus10 and HDX8.9.  This is seriously pissing me off.  I own a Kindle7 and its way smaller than the mini.  To a point that they are not even comparable.

Nexus 10 - $399
Kindle HDX 8.9 - $394
iPadMini R - $399

So wheres the price difference now?  Add to the fact the Mini will sell for a good $150-$250 if you decide to resell it in a year or two.

Sog, a Nexus 10 is closer in size to the full-size iPad than the Mini isn't it? Yet another "fly-in-the-ointment" Nexus tablet may even start shipping in just a few more weeks too, nearly identical in screen-size to the Mini if rumors are accurate. Nexus devices are meant as concept builds with other manufacturers soon following suit with their own versions loosely-based on the Google hardware quidelines.

IMO the pricing pressure on both tablets and smartphones is going to ramp up fast. Apple may be hard-pressed to maintain the margins this next year they've seen up until now. I expect Apple to really look hard at taking control of more of it's own production in search of future cost savings on build and components. Perhaps that's the goal of Apple's rumored $B robotics spending. Maybe a bit more costly now but significant savings in the years ahead?
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I do wish Apple would price the memory jumps in $50 increments rather then $100.

It would be nice, assuming the starting point is still at the current low-end of the scale, but be careful what you wish for because margins are defined for the entire product line as a whole so if they did that while factoring the higher sales number of higher capacities devices from the halving of the flash storage price or if they started with the high-end of the scale you could end up with a much more expensive entry price. But none of that will happen because killing the low-end of the market makes no sense just as killing margins when you can't produce enough to service customer demand makes no sense; and you need to consider that they will double the flash storage at some point which will make the jump 32GB, 64GB, and 128GB.
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Good to see a review that doesn't simply cover the good things and not the bad things which isn't uncommon at AI.

To me an integrated SD card feature would be more valuable than say a touch ID.

And that would make sense for exactly 6 people in the entire market.

It's infuriating to read comments like this from people with no ability to think through their idiotic statement.

Since 99% of iPad users couldn't care less about SD cards...thus, no SD card slot. For the people that need it twice a year when they actually use a camera that uses SD cards...they have a small adapter.

And no, it would NOT make sense to compromise the design with a dust collector aka SD card slot for expandable storage either. Buy all what you need from start, cheap skate.
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Interesting report this morning: Number crunchers come up with Android tablet revenue exceeds what Apple sees from iPad sales.

http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS24420613

This is IDC but it's still not crazy to consider that the revenue from one vendor can't beat the revenue from all vendors using a free OS. On the PC side the revenue from Macs is much smaller than the revenue of all vendors using the non-free Windows OS. That said, in all cases Apple is the most profitable.
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So what about this washed out screen people on MacRumors are bitching about? I have yet to see it mentioned in a real review yet some people over there aren't getting a mini because of it.

So I went to the local Apple store last night and compared my mini retina screen with the Air screen, using this page from Anandtech as a sample:

http://images.anandtech.com/doci/6334/Gamut%20iPhone4%20All%20Data.png

Yes there sure enough is a difference. The reds and blues in particular are less saturated, if that's the term, on the mini. The store guy had an answer ready: the Air uses displays from Sharp and Samsung, the mini uses LG. Was one IGZO and the other not? He didn't seem to know what I meant.

I think the point is that if you are focused on color accuracy maybe it is possible to see (from experience) that the mini falls short on a range of the ideal gamut without comparing it side by side to an Air.

But if you are using the mini in a normal way, focusing on its resolution and its other attributes such as portability and weight, you aren't going to see the missing accuracy—unless and until your local anti-Apple wanker makes you compare to an Air side-by-side, and even then you're not going to call it washed out.

MacRumors is full of anti-Apple wankers. That's also the point.
Edited by Flaneur - 11/15/13 at 6:33am
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Sog, a Nexus 10 is roughly the same size as the full-size iPad isn't it? Yet another "fly-in-the-ointment" Nexus tablet may even start shipping in just a few more weeks too, nearly identical in screen-size the the Mini if rumors are accurate. Nexus devices are meant as concept builds with other manufacturers soon following suit with their own versions loosely-based on the Google hardware quidelines.

IMO the pricing pressure on both tablets and smartphones is going to ramp up fast. Apple may be hard-pressed to maintain the margins this next year they've seen up until now. I expect Apple to really look hard at taking control of more of it's own production in search of future cost savings on build and components. Perhaps that's the goal of Apple's rumored $B robotics spending. Maybe a bit more costly now but significant savings in the years ahead?

They actually are this time with the iPad Air (9.7") being ever so slightly smaller with 45.17" sq. and the Nexus 10 (10.55") being 45.48" sq.

This whole concept build thing is pretty silly. People said the same thing about the MS Surface, too, but that turned out not to be the case. Do you really think that if Google saw an opportunity to make a clear profit from HW they wouldn't take it? If Google is going to work on anything to help other vendors sell HW they really should focus on their SDK so that developer and customers alike can benefit the way they do with Apple's apps.
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So I went to the local Apple store last night and compared my mini retina screen with the Air screen, using this page from Anandtech as a sample:

http://images.anandtech.com/doci/6334/Gamut%20iPhone4%20All%20Data.png

Yes there sure enough is a difference. The reds and blues in particular are less saturated, if that's the term, on the mini. The store guy had an answer ready: the Air uses displays from Sharp and Samsung, the mini uses LG. Was one IGZO and the other not? He didn't seem to know what I meant.

I think the point is that if you are focused on color accuracy maybe it is possible to see (from experience) that the mini falls short on a range of the ideal gamut without comparing it side by side to an Air.

But if you are using the mini in a normal way, focusing on its resolution and its other attributes such as portability and weight, you aren't going to see the missing accuracy—unless and until your local anti-Apple wanker makes you compare to an Air side-by-side.

MacRumors is full of anti-Apple wankers. That's also the point.

To be fair Android devices with less-accurate colors than similar Apple devices get severely dinged for it despite your observation that the vast majority of users don't see an issue. If's it's a honest problem for one then why wouldn't it be an honest problem when it happens to the other?
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They actually are this time with the iPad Air (9.7") being ever so slightly smaller with 45.17" sq. and the Nexus 10 (10.55") being 45.48" sq.

This whole concept build thing is pretty silly.

There's other things that Google does seen as silly by some members here. Google does things their way, and made billions in a relatively short time by doing so just as Apple has. Over the past several years I can't think of two companies that have been any more successful than those two.
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To be fair Android devices with less-accurate colors than similar Apple devices get severely dinged for it despite your observation that the vast majority of users don't see an issue. If's it's a honest problem for one then why wouldn't it be an honest problem when it happens to the other?

To be fair, I don't see more RAM or additional CPU cycles with Android devices either, yet if you do similar takes between the 1.7GHz and 2GB RAM Nexus 10 and the iPad Air with 1.4GHz and 1GB RAM you'll likely think the iPad Air feels feels faster. Isn't this and battery life for a given weight the most important aspect for a tablet? Is the higher resolution of the Nexus 10 really a benefit since that means more pixels to push through the GPU?
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While you mention that most third-party 1st-generation iPad mini cases will work, none of them have the hole for the second microphone on the back of the case. Unless you feel like punching or carving a hole out of a cheap one, I'd be interested to hear how recorded audio sounds with it covered up as such.
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To be fair, I don't see more RAM or additional CPU cycles with Android devices either, yet if you do similar takes between the 1.7GHz and 2GB RAM Nexus 10 and the iPad Air with 1.4GHz and 1GB RAM you'll likely think the iPad Air feels feels faster. Isn't this and battery life for a given weight the most important aspect for a tablet? Is the higher resolution of the Nexus 10 really a benefit since that means more pixels to push through the GPU?

How did you jump from color accuracy on the iPad Mini's to CPU cycles and battery life. I'd assume you must agree with me that if color accuracy is a big issue then it should be a big issue for Apple devices too, and if it isn't then it isn't for most everyone. That would explain your small ruby-colored fish reference.
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How did you jump from color accuracy on the iPad Mini's to CPU cycles and battery life. I'd assume you must agree with me that if color accuracy is a big issue then it should be a big issue for Apple devices too, and if it isn't then it isn't for most everyone. That would explain your small ruby-colored fish reference.

I thought I quite clear. While the Kindle Fire HDX might be a more accurate display over the iPad Air according to Soneira and the Nexus 10 has a faster processor, more RAM, and higher res/PPI than the iPad Air these are not things that are noticed because the gap is either too small or there are too many other factors in play that also affect the experience of the device. Let them take the win for this single categories while Apple focuses on the big picture of making the most well rounded device possible.
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Sog, a Nexus 10 is closer in size to the full-size iPad than the Mini isn't it? Yet another "fly-in-the-ointment" Nexus tablet may even start shipping in just a few more weeks too, nearly identical in screen-size to the Mini if rumors are accurate. Nexus devices are meant as concept builds with other manufacturers soon following suit with their own versions loosely-based on the Google hardware quidelines.

IMO the pricing pressure on both tablets and smartphones is going to ramp up fast. Apple may be hard-pressed to maintain the margins this next year they've seen up until now. I expect Apple to really look hard at taking control of more of it's own production in search of future cost savings on build and components. Perhaps that's the goal of Apple's rumored $B robotics spending. Maybe a bit more costly now but significant savings in the years ahead?

I would challenge that term "concept build." It looks to me like Google is more focused on sabotaging Apple's pricing by selling these orphaned tablets of theirs at no profit or at a loss. It gives the wankers a point of leverage when they allege that Apple stuff is overpriced, or that their memory bumps are overpriced.

Google. Trying so hard not to be evil.
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Interesting report this morning: Number crunchers come up with Android tablet revenue exceeds what Apple sees from iPad sales.

http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS24420613
How in the world are they coming up with revenue figures for android devices? I don't trust IDC because we don't know how they arrive at the numbers they do, and it's been proven that they restate numbers for prior quarters. To me that just shows they're pulling numbers out of their ass, making things up as they go along. They may have some sophisticated tool that spits out all these numbers but if they're putting garbage in they're just going to get garbage out. The fact is only Apple reports quarterly shipment and revenue data. Android is just one big, fat guess. And is it really fair to compare ONE company to dozens of others?
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