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post #81 of 106
Well, this is a stupid idea, that's a given. But also...I guess sealed between two thick sheets of glass they've gotten OLED's water-absorption problem reduced to the point where it's acceptable in a phone, which is only supposed to last a couple of years, instead of the >10 years people expect from a TV. Can the thin plastic they use in this be as impervious to water as glass? What about the edge where it's bent over after being formed? I would worry about the longevity of these things.
post #82 of 106
What a dumb a** idea.
When the main viewing screen is at a non readable angle. WTF!
post #83 of 106
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When the main viewing screen is at a non readable angle. WTF!

huh?

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post #84 of 106

Yawn.  Another Gimmick from Shame Sung.

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What does my post have to do with a shipping product?  I clearly made reference to a prototype as it was used to show Samsung's planned roadmap for future devices.  You should read the entire conversation before going off on tangents.

Roadmap for future devices refers to a shipping product. There is no "future device" if it only remains a prototype.
post #86 of 106
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I don't know if it's done correctly it could be a really cool idea, here is Nokia's take on it.

 

Do they fit the camera in the middle of the screen or something??
or is it invisible??

post #87 of 106
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Do they fit the camera in the middle of the screen or something??
or is it invisible??

I was thinking the same thing, who knows, some weird future camera tech I guess. Still a cool idea if such tech existed.

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post #88 of 106
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Do they fit the camera in the middle of the screen or something??

or is it invisible??

Apple, and probably many others, have a patent that interpolates display pixels with camera sensor pixels next to each other so the display you're look at is the camera. If you make the pixels small enough this is possible with the obvious issues of having a camera resolution matching the display resolution unless you use different size but scalable pixels for the other space and reducing the actual display from having 4 display or camera pixels in a 2x2 grid to 1x1 with a 1 pixel offset along each axis.

The only other solution is getting the display output pixel to double as a camera input pixel which seems near impossible with a backlight applied.
post #89 of 106
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Why will lying on your back change anything, have you ever played a racing game that uses motion control, does the playability change when your on your back. I understand that just because Apple filed for a patent doesn't mean it will happen but in this cases it's the logical next step in mobile evolution. It will happen, I have no doubt about it, please research what company's that produce displays are doing. Drop a current iPhone and it will most likely crack, so what's you point. Both, left and right, why do you think it would matter? Not sure why your fighting this but if Apple does introduce one does this mean you are done with them?

Easy, how would the phone know what's on top if your looking at from below?

I've dropped my phone a couple times but it never landed on the screen but on the edges. You make one edge a screen, that gives a higher chance of breakage.

Left/right because how you hold it will block the curved edge.

Why would I be done with Apple if they build this? I just won't buy it. Just like I won't buy the 5C.
post #90 of 106
One word - why?
post #91 of 106
What is Samsung doing is for the good of Apple, they toy the consumers, but if it goes well, Apple will use that to their benefit and get the patents as usual and make Apple products better. Apple do copy, but they make them better. And why we need to see our competitors tech, is to know where we are in our position. Ignorance is a bliss, this can cause Apple to go down. And Apple really need to increase in their CRM. Apple in China is not doing well, because the management were arrogant, it is hard to deal with the biggest market in the world next to India, Thank God Tim Cook apologized.
post #92 of 106
I can just see the marketing on this; "we made it thicker so you can see more information on the side". Hahaha
post #93 of 106

I think the only reason why Samsung even does these ridiculous things, is to show/"prove" they can be innovative as well. I think a wrap-around display could work, but definitely not in the way that Samsung implements these things. Wrap-around displays for me, are screens that actually wrap around things, like a wrist for example. A tiny little edge on the side of a phone, hardly enough to make it useful for anything other than 1 line of text (old Sony Ericsson phones anyone?), won't be enough to make it a hit.

post #94 of 106
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What is Samsung doing is for the good of Apple, they toy the consumers, but if it goes well, Apple will use that to their benefit and get the patents as usual and make Apple products better. Apple do copy, but they make them better. And why we need to see our competitors tech, is to know where we are in our position. Ignorance is a bliss, this can cause Apple to go down. And Apple really need to increase in their CRM. Educate most Apple fans to think and research before they shoot their ignorant and arrogant minds and mouth. Apple in China is not doing well, because the management were arrogant, it is hard to deal with the biggest market in the world next to India, Thank God Tim Cook apologized.

Most ridiculous thing I've read in the forums.

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post #95 of 106
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Most ridiculous thing I've read in the forums.
...today.
post #96 of 106
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Most ridiculous thing I've read in the forums.

Looks like Samsung again but one of their Malaysian operations this time.
post #97 of 106
Not a type of cheap and fake ,plasticky kind of person so I'll stick to Apple.
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Not a type of cheap and fake ,plasticky kind of person so I'll stick to Apple.

I know this means absolutely nothing and won't sway you away from the iPhone and nor should it, but the Samsung Galaxy S4 handset is actually more costly to manufacture than the iPhone. The iPhone 5C's shell is also more expensive to make than the aluminum one found in the iPhone 5s. The aluminum in the iPhone 5 for instance costs an amazingly low number of 4.00 dollars. Again this means absolutely nothing, just thought it interesting, yes aluminum is pretty but it also one of the most inexpensive materials to use, which I also find ironic that the 5C's shells costs more to make, polycarbonate ain't cheap to produce.

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post #99 of 106
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Samsung is like McDonalds. Apple is like In-n-Out Burger.
Actually, Samsung is like Pizza Hut which do outragous thing, and bad ...like crown crust cheesburger pizza...hotdog stuffed crust pizza or cheesy bite remix pizza...lol
post #100 of 106
Looks super cool! And totally useless.
Oh, well. Anyway, I'm too poor to afford an iMac, an iPhone, an iPad, a Time Capsule, a MBA and some overpriced Samsung gimmick that, contrary to the previous devices, I'll have to replace after a year 1wink.gif

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post #101 of 106
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But all in all, I can't for the life of me 'want' what I'm seeing in the picture above.

This, no, but I can envision quite a lot of cool uses.

Actually, I'm quite often more interested in the parts that Samsung makes devices out of than the devices themselves... but I'm a geek. A nerd. Damned.

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post #102 of 106
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I know this means absolutely nothing and won't sway you away from the iPhone and nor should it, but the Samsung Galaxy S4 handset is actually more costly to manufacture than the iPhone. The iPhone 5C's shell is also more expensive to make than the aluminum one found in the iPhone 5s. The aluminum in the iPhone 5 for instance costs an amazingly low number of 4.00 dollars. Again this means absolutely nothing, just thought it interesting, yes aluminum is pretty but it also one of the most inexpensive materials to use, which I also find ironic that the 5C's shells costs more to make, polycarbonate ain't cheap to produce.

 

Aluminum as a material is cheap because it is so abundant (it was once considered "rare"). However, plastic is easier to work with because it doesn't bend or crease as easily. My guess is that by switching the mid-range model to plastic Apple was able to free up resources to build more of the 5s. So even if producing plastic itself is more costly, it winds up being more cost effective in production.

post #103 of 106
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Aluminum as a material is cheap because it is so abundant (it was once considered "rare"). However, plastic is easier to work with because it doesn't bend or crease as easily. My guess is that by switching the mid-range model to plastic Apple was able to free up resources to build more of the 5s. So even if producing plastic itself is more costly, it winds up being more cost effective in production.

If they used titanium for an iPhone 5e (for "expensive") it would be much lighter, faster, stronger.

It would, obviously, be a very high end product ;)

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post #104 of 106
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Actually, Samsung is like Pizza Hut which do outragous thing, and bad ...like crown crust cheesburger pizza...hotdog stuffed crust pizza or cheesy bite remix pizza...lol

That's the best comparison ever. It's exactly what I thought without being able to place it...

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post #105 of 106
I have no doubt Samesung heard Apple may dev curved displays and rushed to dev their own. 1smile.gif
post #106 of 106
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Aluminum as a material is cheap because it is so abundant (it was once considered "rare"). However, plastic is easier to work with because it doesn't bend or crease as easily. My guess is that by switching the mid-range model to plastic Apple was able to free up resources to build more of the 5s. So even if producing plastic itself is more costly, it winds up being more cost effective in production.

We also need to consider the cost outside the raw materials but for the refining of the cases. The 5C casing has a sturdy metal frame and dense lacquer that other phones don't have which is why it feels so great even though this adds cost and complexity to its design, but the aluminum case of the 5S has at least two different type of finishes, fine details and the chamfered edges both of which are hard to do at Apple's scale. The latter was an issue with the iPhone 5 and I had my first one replaced because of chips in the chamfered edge that came from the factory.
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