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No they are just the one that owns search and has figured out how to gather data by offering a free service then later linking them all together so you are being tracked even after you think you have logged out.
So you're using Bing? Guess what, you should read their privacy policy where they discuss user data, what they collect, how it's used and who they share it with. Here's the link so you don't have to search for it. It ain't the easiest to find.

http://m.microsoft.com/en-us/about/privacy/bing/default.mspx

and this.
http://advertise.bingads.microsoft.com/en-us/privacy-policy

and a short discussion here. MS and Google ain't so different after-all (well Google is much more successful in search) despite all the Scroogled ads.
http://www.technewsdaily.com/3730-microsoft-google-privacy-benefits.html

EDIT: What a mess of a Microsoft privacy Policy!!. They have bits and pieces of it everywhere and lots of disclaimers saying "this one" doesn't apply to that service and "go here" to find out information about "that over there" cause this one doesn't apply. Here's another part:
http://m.microsoft.com/en-us/about/privacy/bing/BingMicrosoftAccountModule.mspx?sid=1C2ciHzIM0q2vMutFfO8fg

but then if you want to know about how they use you for advertising yo gotta go over here:
http://www.microsoft.com/privacystatement/en-us/MicrosoftOnlineAdvertising/Default.aspx

Yeah, Bing certainly looks to be more transparent than Google. Darn stoopid Google putting their entire Privacy Policy on the same page and applying to all their services and one single dashboard for you to control how you interact with them. /s
Edited by Gatorguy - 11/15/13 at 2:36pm
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post #42 of 71
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Unless you are paying Google 9.99 a month, I fail to see how its service compares to the one Apple offers at $24.99 a year.

 

Mathematics, $120 is better value than $25, no wonder the rest of the world think Americans are stupid.

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post #43 of 71
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...oh, and the first month is free. Listen to your heart's content. If you find you don't like it don't renew.

 

I tried it on my S4, used it a couple of times then went to use it one day and it showed music and demanded $9.99 to listen to it, I'm not sure if it was the Google one or Samsung's memory sapping duplicate.

 

No thanks, I'm not giving Google, Samsung or whoever it was credit card details and $120 a year.

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post #44 of 71
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Mathematics, $120 is better value than $25, no wonder the rest of the world think Americans are stupid.

Google All-access has a whole lot more value for some folks doesn't it? Cross platform compatibility, listen on any mobile or web-enabled device whether Android, iOS, desktop or laptop. Stream to Airplay, a cheap ol' Chromecast or most any Bluetooth device, download your favorite music to your own phone or tablet for off-line listening, choose to hear specific albums or songs from Google's entire licensed catalog rather than just "music similar to" as with iRadio. . .

there's several differences in what you get for the money.
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post #45 of 71
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post


So you're using Bing? Guess what, you should read their privacy policy where they discuss user data, what they collect, how it's used and who they share it with. Here's the link so you don't have to search for it. It ain't the easiest to find.

http://m.microsoft.com/en-us/about/privacy/bing/default.mspx

and this.
http://advertise.bingads.microsoft.com/en-us/privacy-policy

and a short discussion here. MS and Google ain't so different after-all (well Google is much more successful in search) despite all the Scroogled ads.
http://www.technewsdaily.com/3730-microsoft-google-privacy-benefits.html

EDIT: What a mess of a Microsoft privacy Policy!!. They have bits and pieces of it everywhere and lots of disclaimers saying "this one" doesn't apply to that service and "go here" to find out information about "that over there" cause this one doesn't apply. Here's another part:
http://m.microsoft.com/en-us/about/privacy/bing/BingMicrosoftAccountModule.mspx?sid=1C2ciHzIM0q2vMutFfO8fg

but then if you want to know about how they use you for advertising yo gotta go over here:
http://www.microsoft.com/privacystatement/en-us/MicrosoftOnlineAdvertising/Default.aspx

Yeah, Bing certainly looks to be more transparent than Google. /s

 

Don't care as long as it's not Google by the way your constant stream of sycophantic, Google apologetic posts do nothing but reinforce the feeling I've made the right decision.

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post #46 of 71
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Google All-access has a whole lot more value for some folks doesn't it? Cross platform compatibility, listen on any mobile or web-enabled device whether Android, iOS, desktop or laptop. Stream to Airplay, a cheap ol' Chromecast or most any Bluetooth device, download your favorite music to your own phone or tablet for off-line listening, choose to hear specific albums or songs from Google's entire licensed catalog rather than just "music similar to" as with iRadio. . .

there's several differences in what you get for the money.

 

The main difference is $95.

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post #47 of 71
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Don't care as long as it's not Google by the way your constant stream of sycophantic, Google apologetic posts do nothing but reinforce the feeling I've made the right decision.

Perhaps you're not the target audience. Don't know that anything would change your opinion other than Apple deciding to settle up with Google and make friends again. Then I suspect you and a lot of other Apple users would like'em after-all
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post #48 of 71
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The main difference is $95.

Then you haven't looked.
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post #49 of 71
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Perhaps you're not the target audience. Don't know that anything would change your opinion other than Apple deciding to settle up with Google and make friends again. Then I suspect you and a lot of other Apple users would like'em after-all

 

Nope, got nothing to do with Apple.

 

Google is not and should not expect to be a requirement of entry to the digital age.

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post #50 of 71
Has anyone used both the Android and iOS apps at this point? Any feature, performance, UI differences that make one better or worse then the other?
post #51 of 71
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Last time I checked (just a minute ago), Apple does use personal information and data usage to generate ad revenue for themselves.  It's in black and white in their privacy policy.  Such is the way of many businesses these days.

 

LMAO… google trolls sure are grasping for straws! What percentage of Apple's multi-billion dollar revenue comes from tracking its users?

 

What percentage of evil GOOGLE's revenue comes from tracking its users? Close to 95%?

 

Hehe…

 

After Snоwdеn's reveals, only fools and cultists still use Google products.

 

 

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LMAO… google trolls sure are grasping for straws! What percentage of Apple's multi-billion dollar revenue comes from tracking its users?

What percentage of evil GOOGLE's revenue comes from tracking its users? Close to 95%?

I would say it's zero, unless they sell that info directly to others. There revenue mostly comes from advertisements which are targeted which are helped by the tracking they do by user accounts to basic websites. It's all related but it's inherently different.

PS: Love the 2nd image.
post #53 of 71

The Google Music service is completely free and allows you to store and download ALL of your music in the cloud, just like iTunes Match which cost $24.99 a year.   

post #54 of 71
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It's an eye-opener isn't it?

 

Certainly is. Very eye-opening.

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post #55 of 71
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After Snоwdеn's reveals, only fools and cultists still use Google products.

 

So Microsoft, Yahoo!, Facebook, PalTalk, YouTube, Skype, AOL, and Apple just get a free pass then?

 

post #56 of 71
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So Microsoft, Yahoo!, Facebook, PalTalk, YouTube, Skype, AOL, and Apple just get a free pass then?



So you think they've cracked Apple's encryption or set up 'man in the middle' attacks on Apple's servers?

With iOS 7, not even Apple can reset a device without it being unlinked from the iTunes account used to activate it, which is why they ask you to remove it when performing a service swap.
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post #57 of 71
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The Google Music service is completely free and allows you to store and download ALL of your music in the cloud, just like iTunes Match which cost $24.99 a year.   

 

Except Google Music is far easier to use, works better, and works on more devices.  I used it back when I had a macbook, iPod and iPhone. I love Google music. It's great that Google finally got their iOS app out there. Everyone should use this free service. I bring up my playlists at friends houses during parties all the time. It works on the browser so it's insanely easy. You can continue to use iTunes and can continue to add and buy music from/to iTunes and Google music will continue to automatically find it all and keep it synced to all your devices. All behind the scenes.

post #58 of 71
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I would say it's zero, unless they sell that info directly to others. There revenue mostly comes from advertisements which are targeted which are helped by the tracking they do by user accounts to basic websites. It's all related but it's inherently different.

PS: Love the 2nd image.

It would seem that the success of google's business model depends on shielding the info of their users from others. If others already know your personal preferences then why would they pay the middleman google to deliver their ads to you?

post #59 of 71
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Except Google Music is far easier to use, works better, and works on more devices.  I used it back when I had a macbook, iPod and iPhone. I love Google music. It's great that Google finally got their iOS app out there. Everyone should use this free service. I bring up my playlists at friends houses during parties all the time. It works on the browser so it's insanely easy. You can continue to use iTunes and can continue to add and buy music from/to iTunes and Google music will continue to automatically find it all and keep it synced to all your devices. All behind the scenes.

...or you can buy CD's and rip them to iTunes or if you are so inclined pirate music and add it to iTunes and there it is.

The "have to buy from iTunes" is a furphy which has been around for ten years, I'm amazed it still exists.
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post #60 of 71
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So you think they've cracked Apple's encryption or set up 'man in the middle' attacks on Apple's servers?

With iOS 7, not even Apple can reset a device without it being unlinked from the iTunes account used to activate it, which is why they ask you to remove it when performing a service swap.

 

Are there any encryption standards that the NSA can't crack or has backdoor access to these days?  Regardless, there's not much need for the NSA to do the things you mention when Apple (along with the others named) freely hand over the information already.

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How do you know it's Google following you, or that it's Google alone responsible for the ads you see? Did you bother to look at the huge number of trackers that aren't Google just here at AI? The 25 I see when logged on are listed in post 8 above. The names change on occasion too so your list might vary.

I guess blaming Google for everything ad-related on the internet is like asking for a Coke. It's a catch-all generic that covers a whole lotta different companies products.

So how do Google make money then?

By the way everyone reading this, here's a tip try adding Little Snitch, Ad blocker and use DuckDuckGo.com for search and cease being probed up the exterior by Google et al.

Meanwhile for ad free iTunes radio and my entire 80 Gig CD collection available on any device we have in the family at anytime, anywhere with internet wifi along with the rest of Apple's free eco system, I happily pay Apple the $24.95 a year. It's cheap as hell for an amazing service. In fact I just renewed mine.
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post #62 of 71
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LMAO… google trolls sure are grasping for straws! What percentage of Apple's multi-billion dollar revenue comes from tracking its users?

What percentage of evil GOOGLE's revenue comes from tracking its users? Close to 95%?

Hehe…

After Snоwdеn's reveals, only fools and cultists still use Google products.






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post #63 of 71
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While you're worrying about Google these are the others tracking your every move just here at AppleInsider according to Ghostery. And unlike most FUD about Google some of these guys may really be selling what information they find out about you.

x+1 / Advertising
Aggregate Knowledge /Beacons
Atlas /Advertising
BlueKai /Beacons
Criteo /Advertising
Connexity /Advertising
DataXu /Advertising
DoubleVerify /Analytics
eBay Stats /Advertising
Facebook Connect /Widgets
InsightExpress /Analytics
Integral Ad Science /Analytics
MLN Advertising /Advertising
MediaMath /Advertising
Moat /Advertising
Neustar AdAdvisor /Beacons
OpenX /Advertising
PubMatic /Advertising
Quantcast /Advertising
ScoreCard Research Beacon /Beacons
TRUSTe Notice /Privacy
TubeMogul /Analytics
Turn /Advertising
VigLink /Advertising
VoiceFive /Beacons

High-profile and closely monitored Google would be the least of my worries.

Please can you ask your helpers there to give us a break down of the above list's annual income from their devious practices and include Google's too so we gain a sense of the relative scale they all have in the great anal probing done by these creepy companies. I assume you can 'search' for the data'? 1biggrin.gif
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post #64 of 71

who really fucking cares?

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sorry...apologies.

 

it's google. who really fucking cares?

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After Snоwdеn's reveals, only fools and cultists still use Google products.

 

I would be quite interested if Apple has an email service that's immune to NSA subpoenas. So far even firms like Lavabit specializing in encrypted email have folded. 

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...or you can buy CD's and rip them to iTunes or if you are so inclined pirate music and add it to iTunes and there it is.

The "have to buy from iTunes" is a furphy which has been around for ten years, I'm amazed it still exists.

Never heard of a "furphy" until now. Interesting etymology.

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sorry...apologies.

it's google. who really fucking cares?
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post #69 of 71
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Never heard of a "furphy" until now. Interesting etymology.

 

Basically a statement that is full of s***.

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post #70 of 71
Shame iTunes is not on Droid nor iBooks.
 
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Shame iTunes is not on Droid nor iBooks.

 

Apple doesn't need to have iTunes or iBooks on Android. Their hardware sales cover most of slim margins on their software...however, those slim margins are starting to get fatter. If you sell something cheap, make sure you sell a lot of them (in other words).

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