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Cupertino Mayor Orrin Mahoney on Tuesday gave Apple the green light to start building Campus 2, where the company's "spaceship" headquarters will be located once the project is completed sometime in 2016.

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Tuesday's proceedings were largely ceremonial, as the Cupertino City Council had already voted on the development agreement with Apple in October.

As noted by MacRumors, Mayor Mahoney gave the final OK following a unanimous vote city council vote in favor of starting the major build.

"We're eager to see it happen. Go for it," Mahoney said.

Apple will now be given the permits required to start clearing ground on the former HP campus, to be replaced by a number of buildings, including the 2.8-million-square-foot circular "spaceship" seen above. In August, AppleInsider provided a sneak peek of the former HP campus, as buildings were demolished in an initial salvage and destroy operation.

First unveiled in 2011 by Apple cofounder Steve Jobs, the main structure will house some 12,000 employees, while ancillary facilities will be provided for meeting and presentation space. Much of the 150-acre plot is to be "reclaimed" with foliage and landscaping.

Apple CEO Tim Cook said in February that he expects building to be completed by 2016.
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I'm excited to see photos of the progress of this building as it comes along. Should be quite a spectacle.
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Would be neat to get a tour.

 

BTW:  Does anyone know of either Cupertino, the county, or the State of California is incentivizing Apple tax wise?  I've always understood that California was a little unfriendly to business in that sense?

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Anyone know who's moving into this building and who's staying at Infinite Loop?
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I live (literally) across the street from this new campus. Apple has been bulldozing and clearing out the area for several weeks now. They even built 15 foot privacy fences around our community so the incessant construction sounds wouldn't drive us crazy.

 

And they just now got the final permits?

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Anyone know who's moving into this building and who's staying at Infinite Loop?

Yes. :lol:

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I live (literally) across the street from this new campus. Apple has been bulldozing and clearing out the area for several weeks now. They even built 15 foot privacy fences around our community so the incessant construction sounds wouldn't drive us crazy.

 

And they just now got the final permits?

Construction fences, clearing land and grading earth is fine without a building permit. Once you start building something, you need a permit

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2016 completion, huh? Just in time for a new president.

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I'm excited to see photos of the progress of this building as it comes along. Should be quite a spectacle.

I expect (hope) we'll get plenty of updates from DED as he makes routine trips from SF to document the construction.
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I live (literally) across the street from this new campus. Apple has been bulldozing and clearing out the area for several weeks now. They even built 15 foot privacy fences around our community so the incessant construction sounds wouldn't drive us crazy.

And they just now got the final permits?

Better get that webcam up and running.

Also, while you're at it, a 3D time lapse in hyper stereo would be nice. Sounds like you'll need a second story or rooftop view. Great fame awaits.
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Better get that webcam up and running.

Also, while you're at it, a 3D time lapse in hyper stereo would be nice. Sounds like you'll need a second story or rooftop view. Great fame awaits.

Hmm. That's probably not a good idea. I don't want to lose my job. They might get a little upset at me for doing that.

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Hmm. That's probably not a good idea. I don't want to lose my job. They might get a little upset at me for doing that.

Understood. Didn't know you were going to be walking to work. : )
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Hmm. That's probably not a good idea. I don't want to lose my job. They might get a little upset at me for doing that.

 

Why would they upset at you? It's illegal to take timelapse photos of buildings under construction?

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I wish they install a monorail to travel from 6 o'clock to 12 o'clock, this is not the most efficient design.
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Anyone know who's moving into this building and who's staying at Infinite Loop?

Supposedly only engineering will move into Campus 2. Currently they're scattered around Cupertino. I read somewhere that 7,000 engineers will move in, I don't know about the remaining 6,000+ spots.

IL, which was build in 1993, will remain. Visitors will be received over there, and many employees currently in satellite offices will move in there.
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I bet you'd raise a few thousand on KickStarter. Go for it!

 

Or just set a small spy cam up, don't tell your family, and release the photos as a complete set on Opening Day.

 

Fame and Riches await!

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Supposedly only engineering will move into Campus 2. Currently they're scattered around Cupertino. I read somewhere that 7,000 engineers will move in, I don't know about the remaining 6,000+ spots.

IL, which was build in 1993, will remain. Visitors will be received over there, and many employees currently in satellite offices will move in there.
So Cook & Team will remain at IL?
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12,000 in the spaceship, 14,200 people in total in all buildings including spaceship.
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Awesome! Cupertino would be fools not to approve this. I would love to see it when its finished. I think it will be a landmark for years to come!

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Would be neat to get a tour.

 

BTW:  Does anyone know of either Cupertino, the county, or the State of California is incentivizing Apple tax wise?  I've always understood that California was a little unfriendly to business in that sense?

Friendly to taxpayers, you mean?!?

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So Cook & Team will remain at IL?

Unknown. I'm trying to find the article that said engineering would move in... Of course Tim could simply have an office in both buildings, depending on visitors.
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Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post
2016 completion, huh? Just in time for a new president.

 

For a building larger* than the Pentagon and the grounds to go with it, I think two years is ludicrously optimistic. I hope Apple doesn’t think construction can be managed like product creation. Because it can’t. Construction is basically freeloading.

*Physically, not square footage, people; calm your iPods.

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For a building larger* than the Pentagon and the grounds to go with it, I think two years is ludicrously optimistic. I hope Apple doesn’t think construction can be managed like product creation. Because it can’t. Construction is basically freeloading.
*Physically, not square footage, people; calm your iPods.

The Pentagon has a lot more floor space than Apple's Campus 2. We're talking something 2.8MM v. 6.5MM. I think Campus 2 might have a larger footprint when you consider the center space but that space but that is child's play compared to anything with walls, water, electric, permits and inspections. Plus we need to consider the design which may have a great many of the structural supports and certainly the glass be fabricated elsewhere and brought on site which could mean the "construction" officially started a couple years ago.
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For a building larger* than the Pentagon and the grounds to go with it, I think two years is ludicrously optimistic.

 

Where did you get 2 years from? If the building is complete 3 years from this time next month it'll still be 2016. I'm thinking it'll open around Sep/Oct 2016.

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Awesome! Cupertino would be fools not to approve this. I would love to see it when its finished. I think it will be a landmark for years to come!

 

Browsing design and architecture is a big hobby of mine. I think this'll be beautiful when it's completed.

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I live (literally) across the street from this new campus. Apple has been bulldozing and clearing out the area for several weeks now. They even built 15 foot privacy fences around our community so the incessant construction sounds wouldn't drive us crazy.

 

And they just now got the final permits?

 

Final go ahead to build. They had permission to knock and prepare.

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Originally Posted by akqies View Post
The Pentagon has a lot more floor space than Apple's Campus 2.

 

*cough* :lol:

 

Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

Where did you get 2 years from?

 

The article, which says both “by” and “sometime in”, but following the “by” link tells me that… oh, it still says both “by” and “sometime in” that article, too. I’m not surprised… just disappointed. 

 

It’d be great if AI actually linked to the places it’s getting its info so we could see the actual quote…

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*cough* lol.gif

Am I wrong about the internal space?
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Originally Posted by akqies View Post
Am I wrong about the internal space?

 

No, just fulfilling a prophecy. ;)

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No, just fulfilling a prophecy. 1wink.gif


I see, but my point about the time frame still stands if most of the footprint is just soil and shrubbery.
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Originally Posted by akqies View Post
I see, but my point about the time frame still stands if most of the footprint is just soil and shrubbery.


Not really, since I’m talking about the building.

 

Whatever; it’s not important.

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Not really, since I’m talking about the building.

Whatever; it’s not important.

Yeah, but the building proper is much smaller than the Pentagon so when it comes to actual time to build we need only concern ourselves with the building structure since the landscaping is relatively easy and don't have to be up to code, at least not in the same way, as the structure itself.

That plus a great deal of it being transported in and fitted (just a guess) makes me think less than 2 years from now is quite doable.
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Yeah, but the building proper is much smaller than the Pentagon so when it comes to actual time to build we need only concern ourselves with the building structure since the landscaping is relatively easy and don't have to be up to code, at least not in the same way, as the structure itself.

That plus a great deal of it being transported in and fitted (just a guess) makes me think less than 2 years from now is quite doable.

Am I misremembering that the new building is big enough to hold the Pentagon inside the torus?

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Am I misremembering that the new building is big enough to hold the Pentagon inside the torus?

I thought the torus was the center axis of the ring, but I am not certain. If it is then it doesn't look like it could, but it does look like it can hold it with the overall radius of the structure's footprint.

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I thought the torus was the center axis of the ring, but I am not certain. If it is then it doesn't look like it could, but it does look like it can hold it with the overall radius of the structure's footprint.

 

That's the graphic I was thinking of... So, the Pentagon has more square footage based on the additional pentagonal "rings" it would seem.

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That's the graphic I was thinking of... So, the Pentagon has more square footage based on the additional pentagonal "rings" it would seem.

Yeah, according to Wikipedia it has 6.5 million sq ft compared to Campus 2's piddly 2.8 million sq. ft.

Nearly the entire Pentagon fits inside the courtyard which just shows how massive that ring is and if you removed open space from the Pentagon it could fit entirely within Apple's courtyard.
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