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In a slew of software releases on Thursday, Apple introduced new versions of its iWork apps for both Mac and iOS, while the AirPort Extreme and Time Capsule received a firmware update to fix reported issues.

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The latest versions of Keynote, Pages and Numbers all received bug fixes and performance improvements, with the Mac iterations of each gaining new features. As promised by Apple earlier this month, some features nixed from the revamped builds have started to return after consumers voiced concerns over their seeming deprecation.

When Apple revealed the new iWork suite in October, the company announced it would be making the software free with new device purchases.

Keynote



Apple's presentation app Keynote received the most new content, with both the iOS and OS X versions getting new transitions and builds.

Each app features the following improvements:
  • New transitions including Blinds, Color Planes, Confetti, Fall, Perspective, Pivot, and Swoosh
  • New builds including Blinds, Fly in, Fly out, Orbital, Pivot, Scale Big, and Swoosh

In addition, the Mac app update brings back a customizable toolbar, a much requested feature since the latest Keynote launched in October.

Keynote for Mac is a 444MB download and can be purchased for $19.99 through the Mac App Store. The iOS version comes in at 463MB and costs $9.99.

Pages



Pages also received the standard bug fixes and stability improvements, but the Mac version also brought back a customizable toolbar. Also returned are center and edge guides, which are now turned on by default.

The iOS app keeps its feature set intact, but also benefits from the aforementioned bug fixes.

Pages for Mac weighs in at 290MB and can be downloaded for $19.99 from the Mac App Store, while the iOS iteration is 266MB and costs $9.99.

Numbers



Like Pages, Apple's spreadsheet software Numbers get the bug fix treatment and, for the Mac version, a return of customizable toolbar. The Mac iteration also adds windows size and placement preservation for saved files and a new setting for zoom defaults.

Numbers for Mac is a 190MB download, while the iOS version is 234MB. Prices are $19.99 and $9.99, respectively.
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Nice! Keep 'em coming Apple...
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Good to see they're moving fast on getting some of the functionality back in these apps (and yes, I know the old versions are still available on the desktop).

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Wow, that was fast.
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It begins. By this time 2014, Office won’t be such a “clear cut” choice for “real business use” (we all know what that means).

 

I also take it that since this update has gone out for both OS X and iOS that the iCloud versions of these three applications will have the same changes, yes? Because… because what was the POINT of this whole endeavor otherwise?!

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I get the sense that Apple is adopting (somewhat) the open source concept of "release early release often". With the apps now free their is no need to work years on huge feature sets to justify the upgrade cost. Effectively they are free to trickle out improvements when they are ready.

Interestingly this is the way many apps are supported on App Store these days. I haven't had a week go by without an app update and I don't have a lot of apps installed.
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Good to see they're moving fast on getting some of the functionality back in these apps (and yes, I know the old versions are still available on the desktop).
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The iCloud versions got updated a couple of days ago. I really think we are seeing a new Apple here and have to agree that by this time next year the apps will be vastly improved.
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It begins. By this time 2014, Office won’t be such a “clear cut” choice for “real business use” (we all know what that means).

I also take it that since this update has gone out for both OS X and iOS that the iCloud versions of these three applications will have the same changes, yes? Because… because what was the POINT of this whole endeavor otherwise?!
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It begins. By this time 2014, Office won’t be such a “clear cut” choice for “real business use” (we all know what that means).

 

I also take it that since this update has gone out for both OS X and iOS that the iCloud versions of these three applications will have the same changes, yes? Because… because what was the POINT of this whole endeavor otherwise?!

 

It's not clear to me yet if the online is identical to the iOS and desktop versions. I just logged on and checked, but I admit I don't use any of the apps often enough to know exactly what I should be checking... I didn't see any option to modify commonly used tools, though.

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I get the sense that Apple is adopting (somewhat) the open source concept of "release early release often". With the apps now free their is no need to work years on huge feature sets to justify the upgrade cost. Effectively they are free to trickle out improvements when they are ready.

Interestingly this is the way many apps are supported on App Store these days. I haven't had a week go by without an app update and I don't have a lot of apps installed.

 

I like the idea of immediate updates as long as they are solid, tested improvements. I haven't a lot of complaints at this point. :D

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Wait, Apple still updates the iWork apps?

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I guess I'll put away the iWork-gate (2013) signs.
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Good to see they're moving fast on getting some of the functionality back in these apps (and yes, I know the old versions are still available on the desktop).

I am going to wait. As a heavy Keynote user, v6.0 has been such a disastrous experience for me with my workflow, that I've simply trashed it, and switched back to v5.3.

Apple needed to do this better. I don't operate on their trickle-by-trickle-improvements release schedule.
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I am going to wait. As a heavy Keynote user, v6.0 has been such a disastrous experience for me with my workflow, that I've simply trashed it, and switched back to v5.3.

Apple needed to do this better. I don't operate on their trickle-by-trickle-improvements release schedule.

 

Why would you do that? Apple updated those programs but they left the previous versions on your desktop also. Did you notice?

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I am going to wait. As a heavy Keynote user, v6.0 has been such a disastrous experience for me with my workflow, that I've simply trashed it, and switched back to v5.3.

Apple needed to do this better. I don't operate on their trickle-by-trickle-improvements release schedule.

Pulling off the band aid is painful, but in the long run it's for the best. Trashing 6.0 is a good call for you personally, but you'll be back and this time will be but a memory in a couple of years. That they have the balls to start fresh, though a painful experience when it happens, to me that's Apple at its best. That goes for iOS 7 too. Even if some of the home screen icons are unarguably ugly. Videos, Reminders, Photos? It's endearing to know even Apple makes mistakes.
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Sorry Apple, still won't get me to switch away from Office. Keynote probably. But I hate Numbers and Pages just seems like a step backwards for my needs.
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Why would you do that? Apple updated those programs but they left the previous versions on your desktop also. Did you notice?

From where do you think I got my 5.3 back!?

Obviously, you're not much of a Keynote user.
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Pulling off the band aid is painful, but in the long run it's for the best. Trashing 6.0 is a good call for you personally, but you'll be back and this time will be but a memory in a couple of years. That they have the balls to start fresh, though a painful experience when it happens, to me that's Apple at its best. That goes for iOS 7 too. Even if some of the home screen icons are unarguably ugly. Videos, Reminders, Photos? It's endearing to know even Apple makes mistakes.

Ok then. The new iOS icons, especially the ones you mentioned are some of the best designed and coolest icons I have ever seen. A mistake? no way, man.

Keep up the awesome work Apple.

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Ok then. The new iOS icons, especially the ones you mentioned are some of the best designed and coolest icons I have ever seen. A mistake? no way, man.
Keep up the awesome work Apple.

OK, so you disagree with Louie Mantia, John Siracusa, Loren Brichter, myself and many others, but that's OK. Your opinion counts too.
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Numbers is crashing for me on my ipad 3rd gen and iPhone 5. If I shut off iCloud it works, but no docs! So beware if you're doing this update. Pages seems okay but I really don't use it all that much.

Anyone else have issues?
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OK, so you disagree with Louie Mantia, John Siracusa, Loren Brichter, myself and many others, but that's OK. Your opinion counts too.
And you disagree with Jony. Now that that's settled...
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OK, so you disagree with Louie Mantia, John Siracusa, Loren Brichter, myself and many others, but that's OK. Your opinion counts too.

 

Who???   and YES, my opinion does count as much as yours.

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And you disagree with Jony. Now that that's settled...

exactly 

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Kind of odd, I can add page count to the iOS version, but not the web version, even though the web version reads and automatically increments the page count. No way to add a page count in the web version though.
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OK, so you disagree with Louie Mantia, John Siracusa, Loren Brichter, myself and many others, but that's OK. Your opinion counts too.

 

Inflated sense of self much?

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Glad to see some improvement.  Still a long way to go.

 

While they're at it, I hope they try fixing iOS7.  But that might require releasing iOS8...

 

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You're = a contraction of YOU + ARE as in, "You are right" --> "You're right."

 

 

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And you disagree with Jony. Now that that's settled...

 

 

I think he is awesome at hardware design.

 

I think he totally missed with iOS7.

 

He is now VP for Design, which means his touch will be coming to Mac OS in the future.  If it changes to anything like iOS7, then my next Mac will be my last for some time (buy before the OS update)...

 

And that from a guy who used Apple IIe's in school and has owned Macs since 1988.  


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Your = the possessive of you, as in, "Your name is Tom, right?" or "What is your name?"

 

You're = a contraction of YOU + ARE as in, "You are right" --> "You're right."

 

 

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I think he is awesome at hardware design.

I think he totally missed with iOS7.

He is now VP for Design, which means his touch will be coming to Mac OS in the future.  If it changes to anything like iOS7, then my next Mac will be my last for some time (buy before the OS update)...

I'm sure you complained when MacOS 9 went to OS X.
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Has anyone out there been able to find out if one of the "bug fixes" in Pages for Mac is OpenType support? This is one of the main things that's kept us away from 5.0; kinda pathetic TextEdit can use OT features but the dedicated word processor can't.
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Apple needed to do this better. I don't operate on their trickle-by-trickle-improvements release schedule.

They've already done it better than everyone else. I mean seriously, how long did Windows 8.1 take to come out? How long did Windows 7 take to come out to fix Vista?

 

Android still has massive bugs in it from early days. Apple releases what is essentially a version 1.0 app and within a month they've made headway into bringing back some of the features. How much is really missing though and how much is actually down to them approaching what you used to do better?

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They've already done it better than everyone else. I mean seriously, how long did Windows 8.1 take to come out? How long did Windows 7 take to come out to fix Vista?

Android still has massive bugs in it from early days. Apple releases what is essentially a version 1.0 app and within a month they've made headway into bringing back some of the features. How much is really missing though and how much is actually down to them approaching what you used to do better?

No offense, but I don't give a s*** about Windows or Android.

I hold Apple to one standard: Apple.
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And you disagree with Jony. Now that that's settled...

My thoughts exactly. Jony really needs to learn to clear things and get approval from Ireland first on his designs. What was he thinking? 1biggrin.gif
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I'm sure you complained when MacOS 9 went to OS X.

That was a fun time wasn't it? I remember running the initial free OS X beta and it was instant love for me but I recall there was a huge outcry from many. Some folks have to be dragged kicking and screaming for sure...
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That was a fun time wasn't it? I remember running the initial free OS X beta and it was instant love for me but I recall there was a huge outcry from many. Some folks have to be dragged kicking and screaming for sure...

Well, it was a disaster. OS X then wasn't remotely what OS X is today. It took till 10.4 to start feeling like a real OS and till 10.6 to really shine.

As for these iWork updates... I'm not upgrading until it's an actual upgrade.
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Why would you do that? Apple updated those programs but they left the previous versions on your desktop also. Did you notice?

THAT'S what he said he did! Did you notice?

Sheesh!
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Well, it was a disaster. OS X then wasn't remotely what OS X is today. It took till 10.4 to start feeling like a real OS and till 10.6 to really shine.

As for these iWork updates... I'm not upgrading until it's an actual upgrade.

You may be misremembering. It wasn't a disaste, it was a rebirth of the Mac as we knew it. It paved the way for the future.
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No offense, but I don't give a s*** about Windows or Android.

I hold Apple to one standard: Apple.

I'm not offended but look, Apple moves forward, they always have. When they moved towards Mac OS X what did they do? They developed Mac OS X but gave you the option to use Classic Mode. Then they killed off Classic Mode which killed off your ability to use Mac OS 9 apps. Did Apple care. NO because your desire to hold Apple back clashed with Apple's idea to change the future. You lost.

 

Apple did it with Carbon, iMovie, QuickTime, AppleWorks, Final Cut Pro, and now iWork all of which Apple cared about those who are stuck in the past a grand total of zero times because Apple moves forward. Apple has ALWAYS moved forward but they've still had an out for those who need features of old software UNTIL Apple has decided enough is enough. Apple has yet to declare that but in less than 6 months time given their current progress they will.

 

Apple IS following Apple's standard as it's proved time and time again. It's just your version of Apple's standard is different to Apple's version of Apple's standard and guess what??? Your version isn't correct. I know it's hard to take but Apple set the standard and will continue to follow it whether you want to follow them or not is your prerogative but Apple doesn't care about your standard and never has. They will move forward with or without you.

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NO because your desire to hold Apple back clashed with Apple's idea to change the future. You lost.

I 'lost' nothing. Grow up. Apple quite happily allows me to continue to use 5.3. In fact, it leaves it in my Applications.

 

Apple moved on, as it should. I've decided to stay put, for now.

 

Why? Because 5.3 is superior in its functionality to 6.0. I challenge you to name one new feature in 6.0 that is superior (I don't mean silly eye-candy). I'd be happy to name at least three in 5.3 that I use daily that 6.0 removed. I have trashed it because it is a pointless 'upgrade' for my purposes.

 

I am happy to let guys like you be my product-testers, and 'upgrade' when I think it makes sense for me. And you're happy with 6.0. So what's not to like?!

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.... Louie Mantia, John Siracusa, Loren Brichter, ....

Um.... who?

 

At least, I've seen your work.

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anyone knows why these are no delta updates?

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Has anyone out there been able to find out if one of the "bug fixes" in Pages for Mac is OpenType support? This is one of the main things that's kept us away from 5.0; kinda pathetic TextEdit can use OT features but the dedicated word processor can't.

The answer is no.  Guess we're sticking with 4.3 longer.

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Well, it was a disaster. OS X then wasn't remotely what OS X is today. It took till 10.4 to start feeling like a real OS and till 10.6 to really shine.

As for these iWork updates... I'm not upgrading until it's an actual upgrade.

As with all betas it was a glimpse into the future. Having said that I was working in a full production system and ran both OS X and OS 9 in parallel and was able to transition smoothly when applications I needed became available. The trouble with too many folks is they want to wait till all is ok but miss out on their own learning experiences by not being willing to use early versions.
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I think he is awesome at hardware design.

 

I think he totally missed with iOS7.

 

He is now VP for Design, which means his touch will be coming to Mac OS in the future.  If it changes to anything like iOS7, then my next Mac will be my last for some time (buy before the OS update)...

 

And that from a guy who used Apple IIe's in school and has owned Macs since 1988.  

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