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post #41 of 71
This is why I'm a big fan of Apple products they think of their employees and their customers
post #42 of 71
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Although others here often say Apple is just another soul-less corporation, I have always disagreed. This is a good example of corporate soul. Money is important, but other things matter too. Makes me feel that my Apple fanboyism isn't totally unwarranted.

I couldn't have said it better, Robin! 

 

It always seems strange to me that in America, "Shareholder rights" somehow trump morality! Tim's action renews my faith! :)

 

BTW: F Walmart and Target!

post #43 of 71
Apple got paid by Samscum, so they don't need to squeeze the store employees. LOL
post #44 of 71

The Empire won't fall if you spend Thanksgiving with family, friends. Spending the day running up credit card debt is shear insanity... Wall Street is happy of course,,Washington DC is happy of course....

The whole process of pumping up peoples 'wants' is really disgusting in general, and using Thanksgiving is particularly so....It is a uniquely American, and Canadian holiday-giving thanks for our blessings.  

If you can't contain your own 'wants' for 24 hours, its really a shame. But if getting that 'doorbuster' is so important, go for it.  I always enjoy the pictures of Target or KMart or Walmart doors jammed with people acting like fools. 

Same with spending time shopping online that day, seems like a waste of effort and time. 

I applaud Apple for not being part of the zoo- and Costco and others. 

Seems the company's that really value their customers and employees are the successful ones. Great places to work and to shop.

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Apple got paid by Samscum, so they don't need to squeeze the store employees. LOL

A snarky comment, don't you think?

 

Since you brought it up, here's a perspective on this week's $290 million jury award. Added to the previous undisputed $600 million that was awarded to Apple in the earlier trial, the total to be paid by Samsung is in the neighborhood of $900 million. That's chump change, considering Apple's size - about 10 days worth of profits for a company that reported $37 billion net income for fiscal 2013.

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post #46 of 71
When they say Market Director, it's Apple's equivalence to a District Manager. It has nothing to do with marketing at all. Apple stores have different Markets, like Target has different District or Region. It's a bit confusing but that's what I was told by a friend who works at Apple Store.
post #47 of 71
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Originally Posted by Brian Jojade View Post

Those marketing executives that want the stores open should have to man the stores themselves.

you can be certain that no such execs would be anywhere near an Apple Store on Thanksgiving Day, were they to open then.

kudos to Cook
post #48 of 71
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Originally Posted by Simon Le Bon. View Post

Treating your employees like human beings?

it's never thanksgiving day in china...
Edited by vaporland - 11/23/13 at 12:18am
post #49 of 71
If true, strong leader setting a great example. Either way, best CEO in the world.
post #50 of 71
I think Tim Cook is a nice and good and understanding man. Any one of you WHO feel you MUST shop till you drop, do it on the Internet, using the Apple site.
post #51 of 71
I think the world has underestimated how good a CEO Tim Cook is, and how important he is for Apple today.

The arrogant, brash style of Steve Jobs would not have worked so well in a company that is the market leader. It is ok when Apple was a small struggling company, but not when its a market leader.

Also, Apple today is not about the home run hit products, it is about increasing efficiency, production, lowering prices, etc. No one does it better than Tim Cook. There is enough innovation in Apple that their products will be awesome for years, but the real edge will come from refining processes endlessly.

But more than anything else, Apple can't be seen as not caring for staff or customers. The "you aren't holding it right" will not be tolerated from a large, successful company.
post #52 of 71
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it's never thanksgiving day in china...

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_Chinese_holidays

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post #53 of 71
Nice PR Stunt by Tim Cook. So Tim Cook gets to chose which employees get to "the importance of allowing retail employees to be with their families"? My friend who is a manager at the Elk Grove HQ already scheduled hundreds of employees to work Thanksgiving and Christmas, that's just one dept, and some of my other friends in Cupertino are doing the same thing, because God Forbid, someone can't get on Facebook on their Apple products during precious times with their families. So Tim Cook want to be like Costco, well Costco shut the whole company down for Thanksgiving and Christmas, that includes IT, Retail, Shipping, Delivery, Warehouse, every inch of Costco is shut down so their employees can spent time with families, they don't pick and chose and throw some PR rubbish out to the media.
post #54 of 71
Originally Posted by Hieu Luu View Post
Nice PR Stunt by Tim Cook.

 

Shut up.

 
So Tim Cook gets to chose which employees get to "the importance of allowing retail employees to be with their families"?

 

Yep, he’s the CEO. If you don’t like it, you become the CEO.

 
…some of my other friends in Cupertino are doing the same thing, because God Forbid, someone can’t get on Facebook on their Apple products during precious times with their families.

 

1. What does Facebook access have to do with Apple products?

2. You’d prefer every single company in the country shut down? That’s nice. Enjoy your Amish Thanksgiving with no power, water supply, gas to get home when it’s over, ability to rush out and get another thing of egg nog because the one you’ve been drinking has been entirely vodka for the last half hour, etc.

 

Some people couldn’t care less about the holiday. Maybe they want to work to keep civilization running.

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post #55 of 71
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Nice PR Stunt by Tim Cook. So Tim Cook gets to chose which employees get to "the importance of allowing retail employees to be with their families"? My friend who is a manager at the Elk Grove HQ already scheduled hundreds of employees to work Thanksgiving and Christmas, that's just one dept, and some of my other friends in Cupertino are doing the same thing, because God Forbid, someone can't get on Facebook on their Apple products during precious times with their families. So Tim Cook want to be like Costco, well Costco shut the whole company down for Thanksgiving and Christmas, that includes IT, Retail, Shipping, Delivery, Warehouse, every inch of Costco is shut down so their employees can spent time with families, they don't pick and chose and throw some PR rubbish out to the media.

 

This is only a rumor, attributed to ifoapplestore.com. For all we know, they made it up. Echo sites are re-reporting it as "news" and by the time AppleInsider hears about it (they're usually the last to, since they're feed scrapers), they've erased any doubt and presented it as fact. But the one thing you cannot say is that Apple issued a press release about this.

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post #56 of 71
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Nice PR Stunt by Tim Cook. So Tim Cook gets to chose which employees get to "the importance of allowing retail employees to be with their families"? My friend who is a manager at the Elk Grove HQ already scheduled hundreds of employees to work Thanksgiving and Christmas, that's just one dept, and some of my other friends in Cupertino are doing the same thing, because God Forbid, someone can't get on Facebook on their Apple products during precious times with their families. So Tim Cook want to be like Costco, well Costco shut the whole company down for Thanksgiving and Christmas, that includes IT, Retail, Shipping, Delivery, Warehouse, every inch of Costco is shut down so their employees can spent time with families, they don't pick and chose and throw some PR rubbish out to the media.

This is your complaint?
post #57 of 71
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It's never thanksgiving day @ the Foxconn plant in china

FTFY

/was sarcasm/
post #58 of 71
"I'm sure that the Apple store employees will enjoy their Thanksgiving day off by going shopping at stores where the employees are working their butts off on Thanksgiving Day..."

Nope. The last thing Apple Retail employees want to do is go shopping when the next day they have to deal with the insanity of Black Friday. I'd say most retail workers avoid shopping at all Thanksgiving weekend.
post #59 of 71

Apple RETAIL is losing its DNA, not Apple corporate.

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Originally Posted by synthetase View Post
Apple RETAIL is losing its DNA, not Apple corporate.

 

Sure it is.

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post #61 of 71
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Maybe I got this wrong, but my understanding from this and another story is that now all US Apple Retail Stores WILL be closed.

 

All WERE previously planned to be closed on Thanksgiving Day, yet some managers balked, wanted NOT to be closed, and planned to remain open. Tim vetoed that position (ostensibly losing money for the company) and stated that, yes, they all WOULD be closed.

 

Story: All US Apple Retail stores will be closed on Thanksgiving Day, potentially losing money, but relieving employees of needing to work on a family-oriented holiday.

There's only one way that the stores "lose" money:   in the case where someone's got money to burn in their pocket, intends to buy an Apple product from an Apple store with that money, the store is closed and instead, they either:

a) go and buy that same Apple product from another retailer.   Apple gets a bit less money than they would have, but still wins.  -or-

b) they go by something else instead completely unrelated to Apple and never go back to make that Apple purchase.

 

With the possible exception of accessories, I would say that case "b" is highly unlikely.    Most Apple purchases are of expensive items that are planned purchases.    

 

Most Thanksgiving and Black Friday shopping are for the bargain hunters who are looking for deep discounts that go beyond an ordinary sale, like the $200 HDTV or the $25 Blu-ray player.   Since Apple rarely discounts anything and sells most third-party accessories at full list price, it's unlikely that Apple is really losing any business by closing on Thursday.     For that to happen, you would have to have a situation where someone wants to purchase a computer, pad or phone on Thursday and then either never buys it or buys the competition because the Apple store is closed.      I don't believe that's a real case.

 

Tim did the right thing.   Not only was it the right thing for most Apple employees (although there are some people who don't have families or a place to spend Thanksgiving and actually prefer to work on such holidays or some hourly-paid employees who need the money and want to work holidays), it's the right thing for the brand, as it gives Apple a sheen of class that most other retailers now totally lack.    It hearkens back to "Think Different" (or maybe "Act Different").    If they don't close, it makes them look no better than WalMart.   

post #62 of 71

On the holiday the smart shoppers don't go to apple stores anyway since they are crowded zoos.  Most will buy online from amazon.  So this holiday closure makes apple look good but it makes a small difference in sales.  And the people in china making the devices don't get holiday off, but probably worked many more hours to anticipate it.

post #63 of 71
Thumbs up.
post #64 of 71
Three cheers for Tim Cook! Another reason I think Apple is a great company.
post #65 of 71
I'm sure the wall street assholes hate this. Funny how the more investors dislike Tim Cook the more I like him. To the stockholders, it isn't all about you and profits. Get over it.
post #66 of 71
Most don't chose between Apple and android. Choice is between Samsung and other androids. This is with emergency of any china droids with better quality, Samaungs days are
Numbered because soon china droids will undercut everything Samsung
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Originally Posted by castcore View Post
Samaungs days are Numbered because soon china droids will undercut everything Samsung

 

I sort of hope so. I want them destroyed by truth, justice, and the Chinese beating them at their own game. Heck, you can buy a total no-name knockoff Chinese 4K television for like $2,500 already.

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post #68 of 71
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It's never thanksgiving day @ the Foxconn plant in china

FTFY

/was sarcasm/

You're a sour one.

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I sort of hope so. I want them destroyed by truth, justice, and the Chinese beating them at their own game. Heck, you can buy a total no-name knockoff Chinese 4K television for like $2,500 already.

Wow. That's an extreme price drop for a 4K set.

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post #70 of 71

Costco, Nordstroms and Apple.  Three stores I like to buy from because I get decent service and the employees seem happy.  Happier anyway than most retail stores.

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You're a sour one.
Can't compare western world standard of living to South East Asia standard of living yet,

If you compare Apples to Apples might not be so sour.
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