Originally Posted by muppetry
Summarizing your assertions is not putting words into your mouth, especially since you continue to repeat those assertions in various different guises in each of your posts while simultaneously denying that you are making them.
This time, for example, you state that in your opinion the iPhone is overpriced for its specs, but that others may regard the Note3 as inferior because of their hatred of Samsung. Not only an obvious statement that the Note3 is superior, but also a false dichotomy with the implication that your opinion of the iPhone is justified and reasonable, but that a low opinion of the Note3 is necessarily unreasonable.
Anyway - feel free to continue posting but since your posts seem to be entirely devoted to making random assertions as to why the Note3 is better than the iPhone, I guarantee that your audience is shrinking.
I think you are over-analysing. I have never hide the fact that I'm an android fan. I don't post here with the intention to stir up a frenzy among some members here (but obviously some can easily be). I only want to counter those points made which I feel are inaccurate (like ... " only 1/10 premium phone are note3 so phablet is not popular" - if it had said 1/10 of all smartphones sold by samsung, then most probably I'll let it go). If you want debate the merit of your beloved iphone against an android phone then go an create a thread and I will debate with you too. But I will never create a thread/blog with an over-the-top title to peddle my favorite phone.
Originally Posted by SolipsismX
You really need to get off this foolish notion that how much profit a company makes indicates how much your'e being overcharged. Even if you break down their iPhone into each SKU they still have less models than Samsung. Do you know that means? It means that for the same model Apple sells a lot more units which reduces the cost per unit. There is a term for this but I want you to look for it yourself (that's your homework for tonight).
You also need to get off this foolish notion that looking at one aspect of a component means it's on par as another component simply because it has one thing in common with it. A 300 PPI PentTile display is not the same a 300 PPI LCD, which could be TN, IP et al. include IGZO and other technologies, and could plenty of other features that you don't even know exist because you only read spec sheets. Have you even seen how the pixels look on the iPhone compared to the Note 3 or seen how the HW is able to trace a point accurately.
You think a bigger casing and display means that it costs than a smaller one. You simply aren't willing to accept that not all things are created equal. Do you think a 6oz of beef at McDonald's is the same as a 60z filet at a high end steak house? Of course not, and yet you refuse to consider how something that has some similar category could be different in multiple ways.
Finally, you think because other vendors lose money on their product from poor unit sales, impuissant component sourcing, nonexistent crossover engineering, inefficient manufacturing, and quickly having to reduce prices to move product that it means that Apple is overcharging you you don't seem very bright. The point of a product is what it's value is to you. This means it doesn't matter what it cost the vendor if it's the best product for your needs at a given price. You also need to consider the resale value since that's money you get. A canny buyer will consider that an iPhone will be worth more after 2 years of use than other products, which isn't unlike a canny buyer considering the performance of the device, not simply a list of specs.
I can understand what you are saying. I know the selling price is way higher than BOQ costing. It is more about market demand. Just like selling bottled water or perfume give something like 95% gross margin. As long as there are people who are willing to pay then it is considered value-for-money.
But we do know one fact. In countries (US/GB/Aust/Japan) where the face-value price of the phone is low (or free) and has similar price to other high-end phones, iphone is barely holding to its market share. In countries where subsidy is not given so extensively, you can see iphone is losing a lot of market share.
On a manufacturer-to-manufacturer comparison, Apple year-on-year growth is considerably lower than the most android manufacturers. You may argue that the other manufacturers have growth because they all sold crap and cheap phones. But that's not exactly the case with Samsung. S4/Note3 is selling at a much faster rate and volume than last year combo S3/Note2. I also read some report that 5s/5c combo didnt give a boost to Apple like 5/4s did last year.
Isnt this a sign that iphone is no longer as attractive to buyers compared to past days? One factor maybe because it is too pricey compared to what competitors give (like big screen, more functions etc) or second factor people have started to lose interest. If it is the former, it is not so bad. Apple can always lower price and people will flock back. If it is the second factor, then Apple maybe in trouble. I remember RAZR phone from Moto. It was like sky high price initially people still go crazy over it. But after a few generation of the same thing, people lost interest and no matter how much the price was dropped later nobody wanted it anymore.