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post #81 of 180
Samsung had to make a lot of noise to sell products...next big thing, giant screen whatever it is...Apple prove to the world that They disnt give the shit about making giant screen phone and still outsold every phone out there and once they actually make a big screen phone, they bury them all.
post #82 of 180
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Lee Clow's ad agency is great.

As for the mobile app developer marketplace, well, Nokia actually created that.  However, Apple used its marketshare and reach from the iPod line, and intergrated itunes distribution.   Nokia really struggled to get apps.


As for your final point, well, 75% of iPhones are sold through carriers, and you could purchase an iPad from Target..!  So, there's room for improvement.  The market is already served through other retailers.  Apple is just duplicating efforts.  So, if Peter Oppenheimer can lay off half of his workforce (I think this is why Ron Johnson quit), he'd save the company more money than any type of income tax scheme!

TBWA is great but why mention it in the first place?

1. I believe Apple stores makes more than twice the $$$ per sq ft than Tiffany's.
2. Apple sells more than iPhones
3. Apple does more than sell things
4. All of Apple's products are on display in one area-->halo effect
post #83 of 180
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Samsung sells a killer digital bidet toilet seat. It is pricey for a crapper but one very nice seat. It even has blow dry!New SAMSUNG SBD-970C Dynamic Digital Bidet Toilet Seat Remote Control.

@MalcolmTucker - how convenient.... you can wash your hands at the same time after fishing for what ever you're "missing".
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post #84 of 180
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Samsung had to make a lot of noise to sell products...next big thing, giant screen whatever it is...Apple prove to the world that They disnt give the shit about making giant screen phone and still outsold every phone out there and once they actually make a big screen phone, they bury them all.

 

 

Well, I think your right on that.  We're likely to see hardware "refinements" but I don't think any new breakthroughs will be created.  A larger screen is a nice feature.  To add features or functionality, the interface would likely need a stylus; and apple rebelled against that.

 

But the biggest question is "how often do you watch movies or film on your phone"   It's almost as if the networks need upgrades to see that happen.   Of the four carriers, half don't offer unlimited data service... If they did, they'd have to offer it to all 100 million customers on their network. 

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Peter Oppenheimer is a star in my book, and gets a thumbs-up!  Once he figures out how to close the retail stores, he should be promoted to the CEO position. 

Please put down the "Scottish Blend" because you're obviously inebriated and gonna fall off your stool. Metaphorically and thematically you already have! 1oyvey.gif
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@MalcolmTucker - how convenient.... you can wash your hands at the same time after fishing for what ever you're "missing".


Haha!

Those Koreans make everything for the home!

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Please put down the "Scottish Blend" because you're obviously inebriated and gonna fall off your stool. Metaphorically and thematically you already have! 1oyvey.gif

 

Thanks for the offer, but since having Pancreatic Cancer, I don't drink.  :p

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Thanks for the offer, but since having Pancreatic Cancer, I don't drink.  1tongue.gif

Health problems are also no excuse for trolling.

So they make another kind of "blend" I'm not familiar with and you're high as a kite from medicinal use. STILL NO EXCUSE!
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post #89 of 180
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It's all in your head. The HW releases have been nothing short of phenomenal.
I agree. No black turtle neck and jeans, no more "one more thing"s near the end. The word you're looking for is charisma
post #90 of 180
Samsung should stick to appliances and low end welfare phones Obama gives for free. At lest they know there is a market in that.
post #91 of 180

Only reason they dominated Android was their financial strength to dominate retail space by piling up merchandise "shipped" on consignment. What doesn't sell gets sent back for credit. Other Android phone brands don't have the money to tie up on unproductive and unpaid production.

If you go into Best Buy and all you can see, for the most part, is Samsung; the impression is that they are the way to go.

It is PR just like all the money the spend to advertise what doesn't sell...like their watch.

They would do the same with appliances if not so big and costly to ship & store. Small items can more easily be stockpiled.

It's all smoke and mirrors and now the smoke has cleared.

Bye Bye Samsung. The sham is over.

post #92 of 180

You are right on the money.

post #93 of 180

HAHAHAHAHA     LMAO!!!!

post #94 of 180

You are nuts....they took a $12B write off of their last abortion of a phone. Produced, shipped and shipped back to them.

NOBODY WANTED IT.

post #95 of 180

On what planet?

AAPL makes more profit than all Android maker combined........on earth anyway

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Samsung has little to worry about.

But apple has some things to worry about. This Tim Cook Guy doesn't seem to have the same magic.

If by "magic" you mean slight of hand to get analysts and idiot consumers to think they are successful and desirable when really aren't... Then yes Samsung uses magic. Tim Cook deals in REALITY which Apple will address in real dollars spent by real people in the real world when they announce their quarterly results.

You Fandroids just love the illusion of superiority don't you?
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On what planet?

AAPL makes more profit than all Android maker combined........on earth anyway

They also make as much profit if you combined all of the PC mfg.  I think what Apple needs to do is eventually make more profit than all of the Android AND PC mfg combined.  When that happens, I'll sit around laughing my ass off, because they might actually be able to do that, but it might take another 10 years or so.

 

I honestly think in order for Microsoft to equal what Apple does in terms of profits, they would have to buy up all of the PC mfg and become a hardware company.  They would easily sell more in terms of gross sales, but profits?  I don't know.   They haven't done too well in selling hardware at a profit.  Don't they still lose money on the Xbox h/w sale?  They've not done too well so far with the Surface product line and if they bomb with the Surface 2 product line, they might end up having to dump product again next year and take a $1Billion right down, only hopefully they would have learned not to order so much inventory.

post #98 of 180

"many people are foretelling that downfall of Samsung is coming" So now it's, Samsung is doomed? ...please people.

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I'd hardly describe Samsung as a company in crisis. They essentially own the Android market & are highly successful in other electronic areas.

Their exponential growth had to slow eventually as it was all at the expense of other Andriod handset manufacturers & there isn't really any market share to take any more.

Completely agree. I'm sure that they'd like to sell more units without the huge promotional costs, but they are in a fine spot. If there were no iOS, I would most likely own a Samsung device. They do a great job of copying ideas and reimplementing them cheaply. They are not innovators nor leaders. If need to come to terms with that or substantially change their organization.

 

Tangent... somewhat... I'm surprised that no one (i.e. Samsung or Blackberry) has hired Scott Forstall. Perhaps he was a bit of a jerk, but he did have ideas and tried to embrace "being Jobs". I wonder if he had a non-compete in his termination package.

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"many people are foretelling that downfall of Samsung is coming" So now it's, Samsung is doomed? ...please people.

Well, I think it's going to be a lot tougher for them in the coming years since Apple is going to release larger screen iPhones and iPads (at least according to the rumors), the are implementing 64 bit iOS devices before Android, and Apple is gearing up more production and to handle China Mobile, which is a HUGE potential if/when they start kicking out the large screen iPhones.  It would be cool if they kicked out a poly carb and a higher end aluminum (or whatever case material they end up using) for the larger screen model(s).    That's where the money is and that's the market segment they've avoided so far is the larger screen market.  The market that Apple is avoiding that Samsung goes after is the El Cheapo smartphone market which doesn't make profit, it's more a chip/product dumping exercise to gain market share.  But Apple will gain more market share in the larger screen/more profitable market segment.

post #101 of 180
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Peter Oppenheimer is a star in my book, and gets a thumbs-up!  Once he figures out how to close the retail stores, he should be promoted to the CEO position. 
 
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Please put down the "Scottish Blend" because you're obviously inebriated and gonna fall off your stool. Metaphorically and thematically you already have! 1oyvey.gif

 

Wait... I'm genuinely interested to hear the theory.

 

MalcolmTucker: Why would you suggest closing the retail channel? Because, as humans, getting closer to your customer on a personal basis is generally considered a good thing. The success of the Apple store is not the "marketplace", but rather the social in person interaction with the staff, geniuses and other customers. So... please explain.

post #102 of 180
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Wait... I'm genuinely interested to hear the theory.

 

MalcolmTucker: Why would you suggest closing the retail channel? Because, as humans, getting closer to your customer on a personal basis is generally considered a good thing. The success of the Apple store is not the "marketplace", but rather the social in person interaction with the staff, geniuses and other customers. So... please explain.

Closing the Retail stores?  Are you kidding me?  That's part of Apple's success.  They get a lot of sales and not to mention more qualified people, they get their products in the hands of the consumer in a much better environment, they have people there to handhold new users during the setup process and ability to quickly take care of people that want further assistance and training and to have someone help them do break fix.

 

Apple Stores is well done in a LOT of areas.  

 

anyone that thinks they should shut down the Apple Stores is a complete idiot.

 

They managed to come out of no where and become the model for retail stores in not only how they have them organized and managed, but they manage to make more profit per sq foot than the most successful retail stores in history with the most amount of revenue per sq foot.  They BLOW away everyone in the retail market.

 

It's definitely helped them increase market share in all aspects of what they do in terms of iDevices, but also laptops and desktops.  I just think the desktop market has been stagnant because of the iDevices taking over and people see less of a need for a traditional desktop/laptop.  Plus, it seems as though computers tend to last a lot longer.  There are people that seem to not update their computers as often as they used to.

post #103 of 180

I'm gonna use chrome from now on lol.

Amazing how their advertising will cost 14 billion times what their R&D does lol.

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I'm gonna use chrome from now on lol.

Amazing how their advertising will cost 14 billion times what their R&D does lol.

Chromebooks don't make any money, nor are they selling well. At all.  They have 1% of the market and they just aren't doing that well from a profitability standpoint. It's just a barebones basic system that you can't do much with  other than browse the internet and do light basic computing, but anything serious? HAHAHAHAHA. Chromebook is probably going to flop.  The best example of a POS platform.   It barely qualifies as a laptop.  I wouldn't even classify it as a REAL Operating System.  I guess there are suckers born every minute.

post #105 of 180
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Chromebooks don't make any money, nor are they selling well. At all.  They have 1% of the market and they just aren't doing that well from a profitability standpoint. It's just a barebones basic system that you can't do much with  other than browse the internet and do light basic computing, but anything serious? HAHAHAHAHA. Chromebook is probably going to flop.  The best example of a POS platform.   It barely qualifies as a laptop.  I wouldn't even classify it as a REAL Operating System.  I guess there are suckers born every minute.

chrome book??

y would any1 use that??

I meant google chrome.

you saw how it fit "net worth of Microsoft CEO Steve ballmer" after the $14 billion??

edit:apparently it's the net worth of mark zuckerburg as well.

edit2:zuckerburg is at 9.4 billion and ballmer is at 15.9 billion.

back to safari I go.


Edited by bananaman - 11/28/13 at 8:06am
post #106 of 180

600 layoffs of inept management

post #107 of 180

Dream on

post #108 of 180

Wonder how much they spent on the watch that sold about 100 units.

post #109 of 180

Solution is easy. Innovate instead of copy.

But innovation is not in their DNA.

All Korea does in any product is copy.

post #110 of 180

Communicating devices. Washing machines will be fine.

post #111 of 180

AAPL does not need magic. Magic is illusion. AAPL is reality.

post #112 of 180

Obama is buying them for welfare recipients

post #113 of 180

AAPL is one of, if not the largest taxpayer in the US. It is the worlds most valuable company.

To compare market share in the US to Korea is like comparing an ocean to a lily pond.

Your comment is an inane spin on reality.

post #114 of 180
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Lee Clow's ad agency is great.

 

As for the mobile app developer marketplace, well, Nokia actually created that.  However, Apple used its marketshare and reach from the iPod line, and intergrated itunes distribution.   Nokia really struggled to get apps.


As for your final point, well, 75% of iPhones are sold through carriers, and you could purchase an iPad from Target..!  So, there's room for improvement.  The market is already served through other retailers.  Apple is just duplicating efforts.  So, if Peter Oppenheimer can lay off half of his workforce (I think this is why Ron Johnson quit), he'd save the company more money than any type of income tax scheme!

 

WTF are you talking about?!  From the Q4 report:

 

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Apple shared new numbers about its retail stores, announcing a total of $4.5 billion in revenue which is up 6% from the year-ago quarter. According to Apple, iPhone sales are up 36% per store per week, and the company opened 8 new stores in the quarter, bringing the total number of Apple Retail Stores to 416 total, with 162 located outside of the United States.

 

Average revenue per store was at $10.9 million, down from $11.2 million last year. Apple saw 99 million visitors to an average of 411 Apple stores during the September quarter, equating to approximately 18,500 visitors per store per week.

 

Seriously, if you EVER have ANYTHING to do with running any publicaly traded company, PLEASE let me know.  I really, really don't want any of that stock.

post #115 of 180
@ Michael Suozzi

Can you please stay on topic and put it in a single post? Thanks much.
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post #116 of 180

It's a guess; but likely the best REAL answer...  My guess is that Apple is finally going to release Flash for the iPhone/iPad, now that they've managed to develop processors and chips that are fast enough for Flash.

 

That's the "Crisis Awareness Meeting" worth discussion.

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WTF are you talking about?!  From the Q4 report:

 

 

Seriously, if you EVER have ANYTHING to do with running any publicaly traded company, PLEASE let me know.  I really, really don't want any of that stock.

 

Boy, you seem real angry when you write.  Are all Apple shareholders terminally angry?  If so, you may need a new apple product or an app.  I'm usually correct about these types of things.  :-) 

 

Have a nice Thanksgiving!


Edited by MalcolmTucker - 11/28/13 at 10:10am
post #118 of 180
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WTF are you talking about?!  From the Q4 report:

 

 

Seriously, if you EVER have ANYTHING to do with running any publicaly traded company, PLEASE let me know.  I really, really don't want any of that stock.

 

Just block "Malcolm Tucker". You'll be much happier when his posts don't appear in your thread view.

Proud AAPL stock owner.

 

GOA

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Proud AAPL stock owner.

 

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Just block "Malcolm Tucker". You'll be much happier when his posts don't appear in your thread view.


Well, subscribing to Group-Think concepts is a great way to address alternative points of views!


Edited by MalcolmTucker - 11/28/13 at 12:37pm
post #120 of 180

What I think is happening is Samsung is losing high end smartphones very rapidly after Apple released iPhone 5S.  For example, iPhone sales in Japan in October is a whooping 76%.  Japan is a very rich country.  Japanese certainly can afford high end smartphones.  Thus Japanese are very much exposed to Samsung Galaxy S4, S5, Note 2 and Note 3s.  Despite this fact, Japanese are moving to iPhones in droves.  This says there are some inherent problems of Androids that Samsung marketing and Google propaganda can not hide from the affluent consumers.

 

I think next some market research firm will try to separate high end smartphones into the report.  When this happens AAPL will probably hit all time high agains. 

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