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Android loyalty does not seem to extend to tablets, as new data suggests that 4 out of every 10 iPad units moved during last week's Black Friday shopping event were purchased by customers who use smartphones powered by Google's operating system.

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Sales rankings at major retailers on Black Friday. | Source: InfoScout


The report --?by retail analytics firm InfoScout --?brings color to the massive popularity of Apple's new iPad lineup, which extends even to users already invested in rival mobile platforms. The firm tracked over 100,000 shopping trips during the annual holiday shopping kick-off.

Apple's tablets took 5 of the top 15 sales slots at major retailers Walmart, Target, and Best Buy. The 16-gigabyte iPad mini was the top seller at Walmart, while the 16-gigabyte iPad Air, 16-gigabyte iPad mini, and 32-gigabyte iPad Air swept all three podium positions at Target.

The iPad 2, despite lacking a Retina display and toting Apple's previous-generation 30-pin dock connector port, put in a surprising second-place showing at Best Buy, beating out Amazon's Kindle Fire and Samsung's Galaxy Tablet. iPad 2 sales were exceeded only by the heavily-discounted 32-gigabyte Microsoft Surface RT.

Despite reports that Android is gaining ground in market share, Apple's iPad continues to dominate real-world tablet usage. Data revealed this summer by web analytics firm Chitika showed Apple with a mountainous 84.3 percent usage share, data that Apple CEO Tim Cook later cited when asked about Android's growing portion of tablet sales.

Earlier this month, a report from Singapore proffered a unique explanation for the sales-versus-usage gap: low-cost, Android-powered TV sticks --?similar to Google's new Chromecast dongle --?are said to register as Android tablets during the registration process. The devices, which can be had for as little as $100, are a popular means of watching pirated video content throughout Asia.
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Another Fake report paid by Samsung. Android users dont have money let alone money to buy an ipad.
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I think (former) Android users were getting so fed up buying replacement tablets every so often because they were such crap, that in the long run it was just cheaper to buy an iPad once and be done with it.

Fear not, there will be some moron Fandroid here that will spin this story.
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I think (former) Android users were getting so fed up buying replacement tablets every so often because they were such crap, that in the long run it was just cheaper to buy an iPad once and be done with it.

Fear not, there will be some moron Fandroud here that will spin this story.

Don't blame them

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iPad 2 sales were exceeded only by the heavily-discounted 32-gigabyte Microsoft Surface RT...

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Fear not, there will be some moron Fandroud here that will spin this story.

 

Well it's obvious, due to Android's openness anyone familiar with the command line will be able to sync photo's between their awesome Android phone and the iPad viewing platform media consumption device, in a mere seventeen steps.

 

Google+ is abuzz with two or three people who can help a novice out.


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I think (former) Android users were getting so fed up buying replacement tablets every so often because they were such crap, that in the long run it was just cheaper to buy an iPad once and be done with it.

I don't know, this is pretty tempting¡


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I have never owned an Android tablet but I would think the biggest drawback would be the lack of native tablet apps. The iPad has how many iPad native apps? Around 300,000 or so I believe. There are a few apps on my iPad that are not native like Kakao Talk and it is really an inferior experience. You can double the size but it just isn't the same. With so many Android tablet sizes and resolutions I would imagine that most apps will not give you an optimum experience. I can understand why some may prefer an Android phone to an iPhone due to screen size but I cannot for the life of me understand why someone would prefer an Android tablet over an iPad on anything other than price. 

 

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how mad are the people who got the 200 buck surface tablet going to be when they realize its a heavy app'less tablet and a poor preforming laptop.

MS has tried this before and failed
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I have never owned an Android tablet but I would think the biggest drawback would be the lack of native tablet apps. The iPad has how many iPad native apps? Around 300,000 or so I believe. There are a few apps on my iPad that are not native like Kakao Talk and it is really an inferior experience. You can double the size but it just isn't the same. With so many Android tablet sizes and resolutions I would imagine that most apps will not give you an optimum experience. I can understand why some may prefer an Android phone to an iPhone due to screen size but I cannot for the life of me understand why someone would prefer an Android tablet over an iPad on anything other than price. 

The two most common reasons I read/hear about for not buying an Apple product is cost and a general dislike for Apple.

The former is oft irrational and the latter is always irrational.

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Might be worth Apple's time to create an Android version of the Apple Store app for those "thinking" about getting Apple products.

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Even The PepBoys Part stores are offering $69 Android tables, I wonder how many of those piece of crap will end up in the electronic recycle bins but also show up in market share analysis.

There were a few other stores which you would not associate with selling electronics is offering these cheap Android tables. They are definitely flooding the market with more cheap Android stuff.
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I don't know, this is pretty tempting¡


Yeah.. tempting to throw it in the trash bin.  :)

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I wonder how many iPhone/iPad users bought Android tablets in comparison?

Android tablets are lacking in quality apps (which non-iPad users don't believe!) they are abandoned by their makers very quickly, they lack the complete clone backup-restore process that makes getting a new iOS device (or warranty swap) far more painless, they have malware and fake apps galore even on Google's own store, and the wrong download can destroy your battery life, privacy, or system stability in ways that iOS prevents.

But hey, you can customize your home screen more 1smile.gif
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The iPad 2 seems to be seen as a sort of 1980's mercedes benz, a bit long in the tooth but quality nevertheless.

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Android users buying into Apple?

Welcome to the club.

Seriously.
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I wonder how many iPhone/iPad users bought Android tablets in comparison?
 

Two*

* reflects net sold after 17.5million units returned during specified quarter.

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The two most common reasons I read/hear about for not buying an Apple product is cost and a general dislike for Apple.

The former is oft irrational and the latter is always irrational.

But, but, but.....!!! Walled garden!!! Open!!! Umpteen-cores!!! Cheap!!!
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The two most common reasons I read/hear about for not buying an Apple product is cost and a general dislike for Apple.

The former is oft irrational and the latter is always irrational.

But they claim to have a monopoly on rational thinking.

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Android users buying into Apple?

Welcome to the club.

Seriously.

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Fear not, there will be some moron Fandroid here that will spin this story.

No fandroid here, but the spin is in the accuracy (or inaccuracy, as it were) of the analytics firm, InfoScout.  I believe their source data is gathered from consumers who volunteer their purchase information by submitting photos of purchase receipts.  I don't know if this means they have a native app for both platforms, but you can put 2 and 2 together to realize that they may not be working with truly representative datasets.  This isn't culled from inventory reports or anything close to being objective.  

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What I don't understand is why there needs to be a string of "Loyalty" to a certain tech brand. I love my Nexus Devices, I own an iPhone (Spare) and I don't see why it would be "Incredible" news if I bought an iPad. I wouldn't mind having one to mix it up a bit, because they are in fact pretty fun to use for games and such, but I simply prefer Android. IOS is great and given the opportunity to obtain the best of both operating systems would be great. I just don't see why this is such amazing news.
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I don't understand the first line of the leader for this story.

"Android loyalty does not seem to extend to tablets..."

What Android loyalty? This and other sites are always running stories about how more people move from Adroid to iOS than the other way. Heck, there is even an article just a few before this about how 50% of iPhone 5c buyers were previous Android users.

There is no real loyalty to Android, as is to be expected when so many are purchased purely based on price. These aren't loyal buyers as a general rule.
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They probably were mistaken and thought it was a large phone.

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I don't understand the first line of the leader for this story.

"Android loyalty does not seem to extend to tablets..."

What Android loyalty? This and other sites are always running stories about how more people move from Adroid to iOS than the other way. Heck, there is even an article just a few before this about how 50% of iPhone 5c buyers were previous Android users.

There is no real loyalty to Android, as is to be expected when so many are purchased purely based on price. These aren't loyal buyers as a general rule.

 

 

That is a true states from what I have seen, people are getting an android phone because they got it free or it was the cheapest thing they can afford. These same people will buy the same cheap thing over and over again not because they are brand loyal, but because it was free or cheap. Brand loyalty only really applies when a consumer has the money and and can choose between brands when price is not a factor to them. Go to any grocery store these days, store brand or no names are taking over the shelves, why, because most people shop prices not who makes the product.


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What I don't understand is why there needs to be a string of "Loyalty" to a certain tech brand. I love my Nexus Devices, I own an iPhone (Spare) and I don't see why it would be "Incredible" news if I bought an iPad. I wouldn't mind having one to mix it up a bit, because they are in fact pretty fun to use for games and such, but I simply prefer Android. IOS is great and given the opportunity to obtain the best of both operating systems would be great. I just don't see why this is such amazing news.

My friend, you must be new here.  If you're looking for unbiased Apple-related news, you are on the WRONG site.  Seriously.  AI is where the wagons are circled 24/7 and a harmless observation is taken as an affront to the site's (and their readership's) Apple-ness.

 

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I have never owned an Android tablet but I would think the biggest drawback would be the lack of native tablet apps. The iPad has how many iPad native apps? Around 300,000 or so I believe. There are a few apps on my iPad that are not native like Kakao Talk and it is really an inferior experience. You can double the size but it just isn't the same. With so many Android tablet sizes and resolutions I would imagine that most apps will not give you an optimum experience. I can understand why some may prefer an Android phone to an iPhone due to screen size but I cannot for the life of me understand why someone would prefer an Android tablet over an iPad on anything other than price. 

"The iPad has how many iPad native apps? Around 300,000 or so I believe"

 

At the earning call a couple of months ago Apple disclosed that there were over 475,000 iPad Apps, so the number now is probably around 500,000.

 

However, as well as being much more numerous, every independent survey shows that iPad Apps are far higher quality.

 

Also according to Good Technology’s survey of 5,000 organisations and companies in 130 countries 95% of all business/enterprise Apps are for iPads.

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The two most common reasons I read/hear about for not buying an Apple product is cost and a general dislike for Apple.

The former is oft irrational and the latter is always irrational.

Yeah.  I can understand that the consumer has been taught to seek out low price and ignore value.  The one that really mystifies me is the pure dislike for Apple.  Although my informal observation indicates that those people, though they die hare, are slowly dying.  I think the only hold MSFT has on the market is through it's long standing enterprise contracts that effectively lock in the customer.  Individuals are slowly becoming less anti-apple.

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This proves that not all Android users in the world are as stupid as the minority who flood blogs with their garbage are.

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iPads have the highest customer satisfaction ratings in the history of consumer electronics.

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I'm actually impressed with how well iOS 7 runs on my iPad 3. It runs so well I'm trying to hold out until Apple revs the machines with a RAM and Flash increase.
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I think (former) Android users were getting so fed up buying replacement tablets every so often because they were such crap, that in the long run it was just cheaper to buy an iPad once and be done with it.
The price difference isn't that huge so it isn't a difficult buy. Beyond that the walled garden does away with many of the problems with Android.
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I have nothing against people that use other platforms. However when they demonstrate a disconnect from reality the way Android users do at times I really have to wonder. Maybe it is time to reopen the funny farms.
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I have to wonder if the rumored 13" iPad will get an A7X or other wise enhanced processor. Cores should not be a measure of performance but in Androids case the operating system and SDK isn't smart enough to leverage them anyways. IOS on the other hand could easily leverage four cores or an enhanced GPU.

Even in an IPAD Pro though I really think the need is for more RAM and SSD. With enough RAM an iPad Pro could easily handle more advanced apps. You know apps pros might want.
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But, but, but.....!!! Walled garden!!! Open!!! Umpteen-cores!!! Cheap!!!
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Future headline:
The heavily-discounted 32-gigabyte Microsoft Surface RT had the highest gift return ratio of any tech product sold this holiday season....

MS probably paid for this return policy addendum: Return policy not valid on Surfaces unless a hand written note from Bill Gates is included.
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That is a true states from what I have seen, people are getting an android phone because they got it free or it was the cheapest thing they can afford. These same people will buy the same cheap thing over and over again not because they are brand loyal, but because it was free or cheap. Brand loyalty only really applies when a consumer has the money and and can choose between brands when price is not a factor to them. Go to any grocery store these days, store brand or no names are taking over the shelves, why, because most people shop prices not who makes the product.

I agree, but do you really think that those that purchased an iPad did it from a cheapo Android phone? I'd say that most people aren't loyal to any one company, their loyalty lays with themselves and they'll choose whatever device that they have deemed best for them. It's no secret that when it comes to tablets, there's nothing that can come close to what the iPad offers.
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The iPad 2 seems to be seen as a sort of 1980's mercedes benz, a bit long in the tooth but quality nevertheless.

 

I know I haven't felt limited much by my 2. Really the only thing that tempts me into occasionally thinking about upgrading to an Air is the reduced weight. I sometimes find myself reading on my even older Kindle instead just because it's so much lighter. 

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Well it's obvious, due to Android's openness anyone familiar with the command line will be able to sync photo's between their awesome Android phone and the iPad viewing platform media consumption device, in a mere seventeen steps.

 

Google+ is abuzz with two or three people who can help a novice out.

 

It's funny because it's true.  Apple devices work brilliantly when they stay within the Apple ecosystem but god help the person who wishes to sync an Apple device to a non-Apple device.  It truly is a miserable seventeen step experience that may involve command line interfaces during one or more of those steps.

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No fandroid here, but the spin is in the accuracy (or inaccuracy, as it were) of the analytics firm, InfoScout.  I believe their source data is gathered from consumers who volunteer their purchase information by submitting photos of purchase receipts.  I don't know if this means they have a native app for both platforms, but you can put 2 and 2 together to realize that they may not be working with truly representative datasets.  This isn't culled from inventory reports or anything close to being objective.  

Ah, that's the quality FUD I was hoping to see on this thread. From "I believe" and "I don't know" to a spurious "put 2 and 2 together" and voila: Instant doubt! No way an analytics company has any qualifications for statistics. Always believe your gut. And you'll never be disappointed.

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iPads have the highest customer satisfaction ratings in the history of consumer electronics.

Well of course iPad owners surveyed are going to say that because if they didn't like the iPad, they would return it get something else. See? I just "proved" that the survey is biased for Apple. /s

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Ah, that's the quality FUD I was hoping to see on this thread. From "I believe" and "I don't know" to a spurious "put 2 and 2 together" and voila: Instant doubt! No way an analytics company has any qualifications for statistics. Always believe your gut. And you'll never be disappointed.

Well, ok then.

http://adage.com/article/dataworks/infoscout-mines-receipts-data/244950/

 

Less FUDdy for you?  Since you won't (or can't) "out" 2 and 2 together, of their panel of 125,000 shoppers (statistically insignificant BTW), a subset went shopping on Black Friday.  A subset of those bought iPads and of that subset, 40% MIGHT own an Android phone.  So from that, we gather that this 40% number holds across the board, reason be damned?  Sounds about right if it paints Apple in a positive light.  I wouldn't expect anything less from such an active member of this forum.

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