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All lI did was to recommend giving away 8 free songs of the person's choice rather than only Christian songs.  What's wrong with that?

 

If they gave out 8 free songs, would you download only Christian related songs or the songs they are handing out, or would you decide to get other songs?

 



I wouild dowload different songs. I don't care anything about any of the songs they are giving away free. But I don't find it insulting in the least. Neither would I find it insulting if they gave away Muslim songs around an Islam holiday, or Jewish songs around one of their holidays.

I just think if you find this offensive and insulting, then your skin is a little too thin and you are WAY too easily offended and insulted.

To imply that they are giving out the wrong free stuff is just ridiculous. They have an app of the week every week too. If they gave me the choice of dowloading any app for free each week, I would most likely chose a different app than the app of the week; however, I have never been insulted because I did not get to chose which app I got for free.

My skin isn't too thin, Your's is.

 

You would find it VERY insulting if they ONLY gave away other religious songs that YOU didn't belong to.

 

I find Christianity and other religions to be amongst the bane of society.

 

What I find offensive is the continual harassing from Christians into thinking that my idea of just handing out 8 free songs of one's choice isn't a better idea.

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My skin isn't too thin, Your's is.

 

You would find it VERY insulting if they ONLY gave away other religious songs that YOU didn't belong to.

 

I find Christianity and other religions to be amongst the bane of society.

 

What I find offensive is the continual harassing from Christians into thinking that my idea of just handing out 8 free songs of one's choice isn't a better idea.

 



This will be my last post on this topic. You have been very amusing. Probably more so because I think you are very serious. I appreciate you correcting me and letting me know what I would and would not find offensive. It is a good thing for me to be aware of and I appreciate you telling me what my beliefs and feelings are. I truly hope you are able to find some peace because you appear to be very troubled. This severe of a reaction over free Christmas music is ridiculous and absurd. Your arguments are nonsensical and the irony is so thick you could cut it with a knife.
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Religion is the cause of most wars in society.  If they just handed out 8 or whatever number of free songs and didn't have any religious connotation, then everyone that uses iTunes would be happy.  Then they could give away a free gift to EVERYONE, rather than just a subset of their customer base.

 

That would be BETTER marketing instead of using it to segregate people.

 

Seriously, I don't know why all of these so-called Christians are getting bent out of shape over this.  If you want to promote goodwill towards EVERYONE, then YOU of all people, should want what I am suggesting.


I just feel that people that don't celebrate a specific religion that wouldn't download those songs get left out.  I think that's wrong.  I wouldn't do that if I was in charge of Apple.  I would simply give out so many free song credits and leave it up to each person to decide what they want to download and not leave ANYONE out.  Then no one would have anything to argue about.

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My skin isn't too thin, Your's is.

 

You would find it VERY insulting if they ONLY gave away other religious songs that YOU didn't belong to.

 

I find Christianity and other religions to be amongst the bane of society.

 

What I find offensive is the continual harassing from Christians into thinking that my idea of just handing out 8 free songs of one's choice isn't a better idea.

I really wish the moderators would've just removed your original and subsequent posts.  You started the conversation about religion, then when someone told you to just mellow out, you starting lashing out saying things like: jewish is a cult, wine is meant to liquor you up, halloween is a christian-disguised holiday.  WTF.  You should seriously just look into the mirror for a few minutes.  I have no problem with you, just your soap box bashing of religions/faith.  Your remarks are discriminatory in nature.  Which "Christians" are harassing you anyway?  How do you know they're Christians?  I just don't see anywhere where Christians are harassing you about your specific idea of handing out 8 free songs of one's choice.  It's like you're paranoid and need to chill.

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I really wish the moderators would've just removed your original and subsequent posts.  You started the conversation about religion, then when someone told you to just mellow out, you starting lashing out saying things like: jewish is a cult, wine is meant to liquor you up, halloween is a christian-disguised holiday.  WTF.  You should seriously just look into the mirror for a few minutes.  I have no problem with you, just your soap box bashing of religions/faith.  Your remarks are discriminatory in nature.  Which "Christians" are harassing you anyway?  How do you know they're Christians?  I just don't see anywhere where Christians are harassing you about your specific idea of handing out 8 free songs of one's choice.  It's like you're paranoid and need to chill.

The original post is religion inspired due to the free song giveaway.  I wish they would have just NOT posted it and Apple would have decided to give away a small handful of free song credits so it wouldn't make this a religious problem in the first place.

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"religious"

 

""Duck the Halls" by The Robertsons

 

​Now I do admit they're tasty  critters but "worship" would be a tad over the top.

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I just feel that people that don't celebrate a specific religion that wouldn't download those songs get left out.  I think that's wrong.  I wouldn't do that if I was in charge of Apple.  I would simply give out so many free song credits and leave it up to each person to decide what they want to download and not leave ANYONE out.  Then no one would have anything to argue about.

Those people are going to be even more mad when they get left out of heaven. lol.gif
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"not leave ANYONE out"

 

​But that'd still mean getting stuff from iTunes, what about people outside that walled garden?: better they just give everyone gold, you know to avoid any insulting national currency issues.

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Back to complaining about things on topic.....

Gee, couldn't they have made it MORE complicated to download these songs? First go to the Apple Store app (??? Why not iTunes store?) Then hit download. Then you're taken to the iTunes store anyway and have to log in. Then you're given some gift card code on a screen that talks about using your camera to redeem it. But that doesn't matter because you then just hit "Redeem". Then the songs start downloading. Whew! 1rolleyes.gif
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Wow. Talk about the Christmas spirit in this thread..... Yuck.

 

Back on topic, there are three Christmas albums that are standouts for me -- so much so that I offer money-back guarantees to friends to whom I recommend it (and often give them as stocking stuffers for family):

 

1) JAZZ TO THE WORLD (some incredible performances by jazz legends such as John McLaughlin, Herbie Hancock, Chick Corea, The Brecker Brothers....)

2) MAHALIA SINGS SONGS OF CHRISTMAS (if her renditions of 'What Child Is This' and 'No Room at the Inn' don't melt your heart, you have no heart....)

3) BRUCE COCKBURN: CHRISTMAS (an amazingly talented, under appreciated Canadian singer/songwriter/guitarist).

 

All available on iTunes. Merry Christmas! :D 

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Back to complaining about things on topic.....

Gee, couldn't they have made it MORE complicated to download these songs? First go to the Apple Store app (??? Why not iTunes store?) Then hit download. Then you're taken to the iTunes store anyway and have to log in. Then you're given some gift card code on a screen that talks about using your camera to redeem it. But that doesn't matter because you then just hit "Redeem". Then the songs start downloading. Whew! 1rolleyes.gif

That was pretty convoluted. Not reading all that well I first went to the "app" store (puzzled but figuring "promotion"), then iTunes and then, finally to the Apple-app store… because, of course, when one wants to download music I go to the hardware…. oh, wait.

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Those people are going to be even more mad when they get left out of heaven. lol.gif

Do you know anyone that died, went to what they THINK is heaven, and found out it wasn't what they though it was?   And can anyone prove they are actually going to heaven?   Has anyone proven that they actually went to heaven?  I don't seem to remember anyone proving that concept.:lol:

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HAPPY WINTER SEASONAL FESTIVAL EVERYONE!!!

 

Oh crap, it's not winter everywhere is it ... sh!t ...

 

Thanks for the free stuff Apple, I for one appreciate you offering it whether I take advantage of it or not. Nor will I be offended if you offer different free stuff to others in different locations, it's all good.

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I think they should have allowed for 8 free songs of the user's choice instead of pushing Christmas songs on us. Some of us don't celebrate Christmas or are religious.
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True; I myself am not religious. I do, however, like a lot of what I consider to be "classic" Christmas music. Nat King Cole "Oh, Christmas Tree," Bing Crosby "White Christmas," (even though he was a DB in real life,) stuff like that.

Don't celebrate Christmas? That's why Apple included "Duck the Halls" in the list.

Come celebrate the depth of winter with the "Wear'n o' the Beard." Even some ladies I know, get into working on their beards, best they can...
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Of course it is. Haven't you heard of Gluttism? The beautiful axis where Gluttony and Capitalism meet in a holy orgy of excess. Its lovely.

Not like the sordid Festivus celebrated by heathens and other lowlifes.

Damn again, I like being a heathen!
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You didn't know that?  Really?   

Of course I didn't know that .... 1biggrin.gif
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Why do you have to put ME down for not wanting any of these "FREE" songs?  What's wrong with me not wanting to have a religion "PUSHED" on me?  What's wrong with getting 8 free songs of my choice rather than THEIRS?

 

I just disagree with this and I don't think Jobs would have agreed to this either. 

 

@DrBlank (appropriately chosen I'm sure):

 

First, this is not the first year they have given out holiday songs for free.

 

Next they are FREE, they are not somehow pushed onto your device like some sort of malware. If you don't want these songs don't get them its as simple as not downloading them!

 

Offering holiday songs is hardly PUSHING religion on you.

 

When you celebrate whatever you do celebrate (or perhaps celebration is off your list also) do you insist that anyone that MIGHT want to give you a gift do so by gift card or cash so you can get what you YOU want?

 

Why not take a look a this as a kind, small, gesture during which a lot of people celebrate either capitalism, holidays in general or a time that has religious significance for quite a few., or keep walking around with your head up you're a$$ looking for that pea sized heart.

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@DrBlank (appropriately chosen I'm sure):

 

First, this is not the first year they have given out holiday songs for free.

 

Next they are FREE, they are not somehow pushed onto your device like some sort of malware. If you don't want these songs don't get them its as simple as not downloading them!

 

Offering holiday songs is hardly PUSHING religion on you.

 

When you celebrate whatever you do celebrate (or perhaps celebration is off your list also) do you insist that anyone that MIGHT want to give you a gift do so by gift card or cash so you can get what you YOU want?

 

Why not take a look a this as a kind, small, gesture during which a lot of people celebrate either capitalism, holidays in general or a time that has religious significance for quite a few., or keep walking around with your head up you're a$$ looking for that pea sized heart.

It's actually drblank.  It's not DrBlank, if it was, then it would be listed as DrBlank, but it isn't. It's listed as drblank.  I think it's hilarious how people see what they want to see, even though it's not seen that way by everyone.  hahahaha.

 

Offering Christmas related songs is a form of pushing religion onto people.

 

I think it would have been more appropriate to just decide how many free song downloads, if any, and let people decide what to down load instead of some religious related Christmas songs. What's wrong with that? 

 

You are the one with a pea sized heart that doesn't see what OTHERS see.


Where's YOUR heart in seeing my point of view?  Because it caters to YOUR religious background and it doesn't to others that don't prescribe to YOUR religion?

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It's actually drblank.  It's not DrBlank, if it was, then it would be listed as DrBlank, but it isn't. It's listed as drblank.  I think it's hilarious how people see what they want to see, even though it's not seen that way by everyone.  hahahaha.

Offering Christmas related songs is a form of pushing religion onto people.

I think it would have been more appropriate to just decide how many free song downloads, if any, and let people decide what to down load instead of some religious related Christmas songs. What's wrong with that? 

You are the one with a pea sized heart that doesn't see what OTHERS see.


Where's YOUR heart in seeing my point of view?  Because it caters to YOUR religious background and it doesn't to others that don't prescribe to YOUR religion?

While I agree that Christmas has been über commercialized, I still think it's nice to have a day in which one gives gifts to others to counter the self serving, and self indulgent lot we've become.
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Really?  Sounds like you aren't very happy.  Maybe some of us don't give a rip about Christmas.

Maybe you are part of the collective conscious that's been brainwashed into thinking the this time of the year is supposed to be happy for everyone.  Well, it isn't.  Lots of people don't have jobs.  Lot's of people don't have much in the way of money.   Lot's of people don't have the people they care about around to spend time with.  Lot's of people aren't Christian, or Jewish or belong to any other brainwashing religious cult trying to manipulate people into thinking they can go to heaven, even though they committed crimes against other people.

Why do you have to put ME down for not wanting any of these "FREE" songs?  What's wrong with me not wanting to have a religion "PUSHED" on me?  What's wrong with getting 8 free songs of my choice rather than THEIRS?

I just disagree with this and I don't think Jobs would have agreed to this either. 

You have the simple option of NOT DOWNLOADING THEM!!'

It is not that hard to understand.
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While I agree that Christmas has been über commercialized, I still think it's nice to have a day in which one gives gifts to others to counter the self serving, and self indulgent lot we've become.

I've given to a LOT of people over the years and found out that I shouldn't have since they ended up doing things against my civil rights and never gave back, they only took from me.

 

I think Apple, in the spirit of gift giving, should have just decided on how many free song downloads and not specified to anyone what songs they had to download, so that all of their customers could enjoy the spirit of gift giving rather than just a subset of their customer base.  That's all I was trying to say.


I just find it annoying when the gift is religious related because that's what Christmas songs really are.  Christmas is a RELIGIOUS holiday and I'm not of any religion that promotes that holiday.

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You have the simple option of NOT DOWNLOADING THEM!!'

It is not that hard to understand.

What's hard to understand that it would be better if we ALL got so many free song download credits instead? Is that so hard to understand?

How come YOU feel entitled to download free songs and not others?  Because you're Christian?  Christmas is a RELIGIOUS holiday and I though it was in poor taste for this promotion.  It's just bad taste.

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The original post is religion inspired due to the free song giveaway.  I wish they would have just NOT posted it and Apple would have decided to give away a small handful of free song credits so it wouldn't make this a religious problem in the first place.

Apple did not make this a religious problem. Your narrow-minded views did. And no, I am not religious but I do enjoy Christmas and many Christmas songs.
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What's funny to me is that Jesus Christ, the person's who's birthday it's SUPPOSED to be a celebration of wasn't even born on December 25th and I'll bet that even he would see this as a bunch of BS.  That's MY OPINION and I'm sure there are plenty of others that share the same OPINION.

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Apple did not make this a religious problem. Your narrow-minded views did. And no, I am not religious but I do enjoy Christmas and many Christmas songs.

They aren't narrow minded, they are pragmatic.

 

Christmas is a religious holiday.  PERIOD.  It's pretty straightforward.

 

Why do you enjoy Christmas?  What happens when you don't get any presents?  I'm not Christian and I gave away some presents to people that I know and it didn't have to be Christmas or their birthday and I didn't get anything back nor was I expecting anything in return, but it wasn't even Christmas.  I gave them a present because I thought they might like it.

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"not leave ANYONE out"

​But that'd still mean getting stuff from iTunes, what about people outside that walled garden?: better they just give everyone gold, you know to avoid any insulting national currency issues.

There isn't one outside the walled garden... there are only nobodys out there. Not real people. Real people buy Apple products, the more they buy, the more real they are. You're either "IN" the walled garden, or you are wandering out in the wilderness with no personal relationship with Apple. I can still remember how it was before I bought my first Mac in 1984 and made my first step upon that narrow road!
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They aren't narrow minded, they are pragmatic.

Christmas is a religious holiday.  PERIOD.  It's pretty straightforward.

Why do you enjoy Christmas?  What happens when you don't get any presents?  I'm not Christian and I gave away some presents to people that I know and it didn't have to be Christmas or their birthday and I didn't get anything back nor was I expecting anything in return, but it wasn't even Christmas.  I gave them a present because I thought they might like it.


Come on guys, keep religion and politics off this blog. The winter solstice if a time for having fun.
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What's funny to me is that Jesus Christ, the person's who's birthday it's SUPPOSED to be a celebration of wasn't even born on December 25th and I'll bet that even he would see this as a bunch of BS.  That's MY OPINION and I'm sure there are plenty of others that share the same OPINION.

It's a day to celebrate Jesus' birth, not actually his 'birthday' because that's unknown.
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I don't see it. Is this another example of Apple thinking the world ends at the US border?

 

Nonsense. Apple works hard to bring California to all corners of the Earth.

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They aren't narrow minded, they are pragmatic.

Christmas is a religious holiday.  PERIOD.  It's pretty straightforward.

Nope, you are exceedingly narrow minded and pat yourself on the back by thinking you are pragmatic. But at the end of the day, you are frustrated, threatened, irritated and mad that the world does not have the same exact belief system as you. That is narrow minded.

I don't care if Christmas is a religious holiday. Why does it chap you backside so much that many people simply enjoy Christmas and Christmas music? Apple is not pushing this down your throat. You can simply choose to ignore it.

And no, life is not always fair, you have the right to be offended and people have the right to not care one little bit that you are so easily offended.
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It's a day to celebrate Jesus' birth, not actually his 'birthday' because that's unknown.

So what? Why is that so important?  He's not the only Ascended Master to have been put in a man's body.  Why so much importance on just Jesus?  To those that are part of other religions, they put importance on others instead of Jesus.  I don't know what the big deal is.  Why don't they just make it Ascended Master's Birthday to represent ALL of the Ascended Masters from ALL religions and make it a non-denominational holiday instead?  To people that are into Buddism think of Budda as their representation of what Jesus represents to Christians.   

 

And it's actually chosen to be December 25th because it's a week apart from Jan 1, which is the new year and this gives people a week (as long as you're not in certain job positions) off.

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Nope, you are exceedingly narrow minded and pat yourself on the back by thinking you are pragmatic. But at the end of the day, you are frustrated, threatened, irritated and mad that the world does not have the same exact belief system as you. That is narrow minded.

I don't care if Christmas is a religious holiday. Why does it chap you backside so much that many people simply enjoy Christmas and Christmas music? Apple is not pushing this down your throat. You can simply choose to ignore it.

And no, life is not always fair, you have the right to be offended and people have the right to not care one little bit that you are so easily offended.

You are using the term narrow minded because you hate people that don't believe in Christianity or YOUR way of thinking.  It's called being a grown up, knowing that we don't need religion to behave properly as a society.  Especially since you are casting falsehoods against another.  Isn't that a sin to do that? 


Why don't you agree that it would be better if Apple just gave away 8 free song credits to everyone that wanted it and wasn't forced into downloading only Christmas related songs? What's wrong with my opinion?  Because it doesn't support yours?  For shame.  You sound very close minded to having others that don't believe in YOUR religion to enjoy the Holiday season.  Sounds like your not very Christian.

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Nope, you are exceedingly narrow minded and pat yourself on the back by thinking you are pragmatic. But at the end of the day, you are frustrated, threatened, irritated and mad that the world does not have the same exact belief system as you. That is narrow minded.

I don't care if Christmas is a religious holiday. Why does it chap you backside so much that many people simply enjoy Christmas and Christmas music? Apple is not pushing this down your throat. You can simply choose to ignore it.

And no, life is not always fair, you have the right to be offended and people have the right to not care one little bit that you are so easily offended.

Enough with the religion already ...

But yes ...as an atheist i love Christmas so I agree ... now move on people before the Mods put you all on the naughty list!
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I was just thinking that giving away 8 free songs of the person's choice would be better than just Christmas songs, and then a bunch of Christians get their panties in a bunch over it.    Most of the holidays like Halloween, Easter, etc. are Pagen holidays anyways masqueraded as Christian holidays.
So you think ganging up on people is right?  I just think they should just give people 8 song credits and that's what would be a BETTER alternative and I see NOTHING wrong with that.


Even though the only reason they are giving the songs out is because of Christmas?
How about stuff at Christmas sales? Did you do Black Friday and get any deals?
So you don't like/agree/want religion (or just Christianity?) but you'll take advantage of it or get some benefit from it, right?

You seem like the kinda guy who, if someone walked in and handed everyone $10 for no reason at all, you'd complain that it's not $20.
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Apple did not make this a religious problem. Your narrow-minded views did. And no, I am not religious but I do enjoy Christmas and many Christmas songs.

 

What's wrong with my opinion of them just giving a small handful of free songs for people to choose instead of just Christmas songs?  You still haven't answered that question.  In fact, no one has that likes this give away.  

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I was just thinking that giving away 8 free songs of the person's choice would be better than just Christmas songs, and then a bunch of Christians get their panties in a bunch over it.    Most of the holidays like Halloween, Easter, etc. are Pagen holidays anyways masqueraded as Christian holidays.
So you think ganging up on people is right?  I just think they should just give people 8 song credits and that's what would be a BETTER alternative and I see NOTHING wrong with that.


Even though the only reason they are giving the songs out is because of Christmas?
How about stuff at Christmas sales? Did you do Black Friday and get any deals?
So you don't like/agree/want religion (or just Christianity?) but you'll take advantage of it or get some benefit from it, right?

 

Black Friday?  I stayed away from the stores.  Far away.  Too busy.  I don't buy something JUST because I get a deal on Black Friday.  I actually have gotten plenty of deals on stuff before and after Black Friday.  Heck, I got some nice shirts that were 40% off about a month ago.

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So what? Why is that so important?  He's not the only Ascended Master to have been put in a man's body.  Why so much importance on just Jesus?  To those that are part of other religions, they put importance on others instead of Jesus.  I don't know what the big deal is.  Why don't they just make it Ascended Master's Birthday to represent ALL of the Ascended Masters from ALL religions and make it a non-denominational holiday instead?  To people that are into Buddism think of Budda as their representation of what Jesus represents to Christians.   

And it's actually chosen to be December 25th because it's a week apart from Jan 1, which is the new year and this gives people a week (as long as you're not in certain job positions) off.

Lol, that date was chosen sometime in late 2nd century, I highly doubt people were thinking about vacation time back then. Jesus was chosen simply because the countries that went around trying to conquer the world were primarily Christians and thus many of the conquered converted and adopted the 'holy days'which is now called holidays. It's not really that hard.
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Lol, that date was chosen sometime in late 2nd century, I highly doubt people were thinking about vacation time back then. Jesus was chosen simply because the countries that went around trying to conquer the world were primarily Christians and thus many of the conquered converted and adopted the 'holy days'which is now called holidays. It's not really that hard.

Who gives a crap?  It's a religious holiday promoted by a bunch of hypocrite Christians is what it is nowadays.  This world would be much better off with no religion and just honest law abiding people that don't promote hypocrisy.

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Lol, that date was chosen sometime in late 2nd century, I highly doubt people were thinking about vacation time back then. Jesus was chosen simply because the countries that went around trying to conquer the world were primarily Christians and thus many of the conquered converted and adopted the 'holy days'which is now called holidays. It's not really that hard.

And what happens to those that don't give presents to people?   

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Now I can't wait for the posts when Apple has their "12 days of Christmas." Woohoo!! Bring on the spiced rum and eggnog!!

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