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post #1 of 46
11/14/01 at 2:57am
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Okay, so it's not current hardware. So sue me. All Newton users gather here.

I just ordered a 120 from eBay. I can't wait to get the thing. Everyone says that they are so much better than Palm and everything and I am tired of my three ring binder filofax thingy, so I ordered one.

Anyone provide any hints or tips or just general discussion? User groups? Whatever?
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post #2 of 46
11/14/01 at 12:24pm
I just ordered a 120 too! It's been so hard to find one shipping to UK.. in the end I payed $95 for a buy it now, just to get it!

It's not come yet, and I can't wait. I doubt it'll replace my Palm 505, simply because the latter fits in my jeans pocket and I can get it out anywhere, but I'll give it a chance anyway. (I now need a Mac to sync it with... I can't keep borrowing my brother's 6200!)

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post #3 of 46
11/14/01 at 12:26pm
What operating system is your Newton coming with? The 120 can use OS 1.3, or the superior 2.0.
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post #4 of 46
11/15/01 at 2:39am
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Hi Fran, I definitely made sure it came with OS 2.0. I did my homework before I bought one. I can't wait!
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post #5 of 46
11/15/01 at 4:00am
Excellent. </mr.burns>

Any way, the only issue you might want to know about with the 120 is that there is no backlighting built into the system like the 130 has. (Backlighting really eats into those AA batteries, though, so it might be a benefit NOT to have it).

OS 2.0 can run most Newton programs- only the most advanced Newton packages will not run on these systems. 2.0 supports online browsing and you can have 2 flash memory cards in the system. ATA also works thanks to the efforts of Paul Guyot (but I haven't tried it on a 120- maybe later today...).

If you really want to annoy people, get a copy of Jared which someone took the time to port over to the Newton, crank up the volume, and let it sing away!

Seriously, though, the Newton is a terrific device. Most people find it 'bulky' (some find it gargantuan). It's a great device and gives you a look back in the history of handheld computing and how we've actually lost some of the better features of those devices.

Just try not to laugh too hard when you see eWorld on it, okay?
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post #6 of 46
11/15/01 at 5:53am
This must be the time of the Newton revival!
I just bought a MessagePad 130 from eBay last Saturday, and I'm desperatly waiting for it to arrive.

I was too young to know much about Newtons when they was around. But since I started getting realy interessted in it a few weeks ago I remembered seeing them (MessagePad & eMate) being shown on BBC's Tomorrows World years ago when PDAs were still revolutionary.

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post #7 of 46
11/15/01 at 11:59am
My Newt's coming with 2.0, and also a CD of Newt software.

I don't mind about the backlight, as it's really for curiosity's sake... I won't do much work on it as I have a Palm with a keyboard, and it's too big to keep notes on.

Any useful things that it can do that I don't know about? What's gaming like?

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11/16/01 at 8:00am
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Please post there if you have Newton interest.

But make sure you don't make any references to the Newton in Suggestions ... or it'll magically get locked ...
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post #9 of 46
11/16/01 at 10:59am
My Newton MP2100 has served me as my only computer for almost 3 years. I've written magazine articles on it, done all my email and faxes with it, use it for doing the accounting for the non-profit organisation that I work for, and web browising until last year, when I accidently deleted Newts Cape. The web browsing these days isn't really very good unless you stick to viewing simple Newton or Palm friendly pages, but it works. Maybe the slowness is my 28.8 modem as I'm used to cable modem speeds these days. The Newt is still my alarm clock, day-planner, note keeper... really, it's relieved me of most of the annoying little slips of paper and business cards and phone numbers scrawled on bar napkins and coasters that I used to carry around all the time. It's helped me to remember names and birthdays, anniverseries, really, I sometimes wonder how I got along without it. Maybe the Palms and Pocket PCs are better these days, but I've tried them all out in the shops and still can't see any reason to retire the Newt.
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post #10 of 46
11/16/01 at 11:03am
Hi Fran,

I was wondering if you've tried running Newton Connection Utilities on OS 9.2 as I may try syncing up to my iBook on a USB IR or Serial adapter. I really only want to install some software and without a web browser on the Newt I'll need to sync up with a bigger PC or Mac.
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post #11 of 46
11/16/01 at 12:03pm
I want to know how to sync over IR - will a MP120 with OS 1.3 do it or just a 2x00 with 2.0?

As of this weekend I will have both and my PowerBook has IR on it.
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post #12 of 46
11/17/01 at 1:44am
Someone gave me a message pad about 6 months ago cause they didn't use it. It's in my closet now
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post #13 of 46
11/17/01 at 3:05am
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Don't fret, now... Let me give you my address!
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post #14 of 46
11/17/01 at 4:46am
I've used the Keyspan USB dual serial apater to sync up the Newtons I have with NCU 2.0 (or NCK 1.1) and it works fine. Installing packages couldn't be easier, and you can save the ones you aren't using on your Mac.
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post #15 of 46
11/17/01 at 4:47am
[quote]Someone gave me a message pad about 6 months ago cause they didn't use it. It's in my closet now<hr></blockquote>

Is your brain in your closet too? Stop trolling already.
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post #16 of 46
11/17/01 at 4:51am
I kep wondering if I should get a used Newton instead of a palm device. I think there may be something really great coming for OS5, but hen the newton has internet connectivity and e-mail support that the other's still don't approach.

How much does a used MP2100 go for now???
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post #17 of 46
11/17/01 at 11:13am
[quote]Originally posted by Fran441:
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Is your brain in your closet too? Stop trolling already. </strong><hr></blockquote>

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post #18 of 46
11/17/01 at 11:56am
I have a newton, but then I bought a real PDA. iPaq 3150.
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post #19 of 46
11/17/01 at 12:00pm
[quote]Originally posted by macmonkey:
<strong>I have a newton, but then I bought a real PDA. iPaq 3150.</strong><hr></blockquote>

If it wasn't for the Newton there wouldn't have been a iPaq.
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post #20 of 46
11/17/01 at 12:05pm
So? If it weren't for rotary dial telephones we wouldn't have cellphones and cordless phones...does that mean everyone should use Ma Bell rotary model phones instead of Motorolas, GEs, or Nokias?
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post #21 of 46
11/17/01 at 12:56pm
[quote]Originally posted by macmonkey:
<strong>So? If it weren't for rotary dial telephones we wouldn't have cellphones and cordless phones...does that mean everyone should use Ma Bell rotary model phones instead of Motorolas, GEs, or Nokias?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yes
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post #22 of 46
11/17/01 at 12:58pm
eh. Okay.

*Throws away cordless phone and cellphone, trashes microwave, and computer that uses microprocessor in exchange for rotary phone, radarange, and a couple of vaccuum tubes.
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post #23 of 46
11/17/01 at 1:10pm
Tubes rule. They sound warmer
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post #24 of 46
11/17/01 at 1:11pm
Yup. Motorola should stop working on the G5 and just make bunches of vaccuum tubes. Then we can say Macs are faster because they are bigger than people's houses.
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post #25 of 46
11/17/01 at 1:19pm
Ahh. This time it is beefy_guy. Your forums so bad you had to troll over here again?
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post #26 of 46
11/17/01 at 1:25pm
[quote]Originally posted by Fran441:
<strong>Ahh. This time it is beefy_guy. Your forums so bad you had to troll over here again? </strong><hr></blockquote>

The forums are doing quite well actually
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post #27 of 46
11/17/01 at 1:30pm
I wouldn't go there....you really don't want to.

Trust me.

MacMonkey's doing fine, but it's usually slow on the weekends, because most of our posters post at work. I'm in college and am simply awaiting tonight when I can get sloshed--and hopefully dispose of the rest of my stash before thanksgiving.
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post #28 of 46
11/17/01 at 3:49pm
So is there a way to sync all the user entered data [Notes, Dates, Names, ect..] from one Newton to another without going through a Mac or PC?

I know I can send individual items but I want to do them 'en mass.
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post #29 of 46
11/17/01 at 4:16pm
Hey, someone is selling a Developmental MP2000 on ebay:

<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1297033000" target="_blank">http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1297033000</a>

Someone else is selling a MP2000/2100 and a slew of goodies:
<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1295393401" target="_blank">http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1295393401</a>

It's amazing how these things have held their resale value (2000/2100)
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post #30 of 46
11/17/01 at 6:10pm
I shopped for about a month before I bought a Message Pad 2000 upgraded to 2100 hardware for $250 today.

Seems that 2000s don't go for under $200 and upgraded ones are typically around $300. With lots of stuff a good condition 2x00 will go for as high as $700. Pretty crazy for a four to five year old product that was discontinued. I wouldn't pay that much but for $250 I got something nicer than a $500 Palm or PocketPC device.
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post #31 of 46
11/17/01 at 6:16pm
tech issue - I want to connect my Newton to my PowerMac 8600 running AppleShare IP 6.3.3 [and 9.1] and have Newton Connection Kit 2.0 installed on it. My Newton says it cancels the connection due to no response.

any ideas? I think the problem is with the 8600 because I have problems writing to it from remote servers also - this is a random problem, sometimes it happens sometimes it does not - but I can still write to the 8600 from the 8600 [copying a mounted server to the local drive and installs both work].
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post #32 of 46
11/20/01 at 12:13pm
I'm considering a Newton 2100 but I'm not sure. Is there a good site for active Newton users? I'm interested in seeing what's currently available to use with the product before I drop some cash.

Thanks.
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11/22/01 at 9:32pm
Burge - yes, go to unna.org and thisoldnewt.com - both good sites. I bought a 2000 that was upgraded to a 2100 a week ago Saturday and I absolutely love it.
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post #34 of 46
11/23/01 at 11:38am
Swingin' this over to the Digital Hub forum...
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post #35 of 46
11/28/01 at 12:37pm
Hey, Fran. Good to see you're still the Newton appologist. Man, I missed AI when it was down...

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post #36 of 46
11/30/01 at 11:37am
My newton is here!!!! woohoo!
unfortunately the guy didn't send a pen or a battary pack like he said he would... so I can't use it yet

I got about 10 minutes use on some old battaries before they died. looks great.

question: will it print on a Stylewriter 1200?


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post #37 of 46
12/2/01 at 5:15pm
Never mind.

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12/3/01 at 3:09pm
yes, it will.
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post #39 of 46
12/3/01 at 7:53pm
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I got my Messagepad 120 in the mail the other day. I only got about 10 minutes to tinker with it, and then the wifey took it away. Seems I have to wait until Christmas to play with it...

From what I saw, it seemed extrememly capable. I love the fact that you can change the display from portrait to landscape. Can the others do this, like Palm and Pocket PC?

I'd like to have a Compaq iPaq with Pocket PC 2002, but I ain't got 500 bucks burning a hole in my pants...
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12/10/01 at 3:31pm
I just got my MP 130 this morning and I've been playing with it all day instead of working and studying for finals like I should be.

Man, this thing rocks!
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