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Samsung has always been cagy about releasing data on the devices it sells, but it just provided a new clue that indicates "phablet" models are not nearly as popular as is commonly believed, again explaining why Apple hasn't been in a rush to sell a big screen iPhone.



The company's promotional blog Samsung Tomorrow announced having shipped 10 million Galaxy Note 3 phablets in a roundabout fashion using an infographic to compare the Note 3 against other devices that had also reached the 10 million mark.

All three generations of the Galaxy Note and all four Galaxy S models have reached sales of 10 million units, but Samsung's latest Note 3 has only been on sale for two months.

That channel shipments milestone is less impressive when compared against Apple's launch sales of the iPhone 5s/5c, which hit 9 million sales in a weekend.

However, it's also only half as fast as the 10 million units "shipped in one month" pace that Samsung expected for the Galaxy S4 back in May.



That's particularly notable because the Galaxy S4 has continued to sell far short of initial expectations. In November, at an investor conference intended to assuage the concerns of its investors, a Samsung executive outlined that the company expected to ship a combined total of 100 million premium handsets in its Galaxy S and Note lines.

That figure revealed the first solid proof that the majority of Samsung's "smartphone sales" this year were actually very low end devices, because it means only one third of the company's overall shipments are premium phones that could be compared to an iPhone.

Samsung's numbers revealing that its big screen Note 3 phablet will account for only a tenth of one third of its 2013 smartphone sales also highlights that oversized phones are not nearly as popular as is often assumed. The majority of Samsung's Note phablets sell in Asia, primarily within South Korea itself. Half of the Note 3's current shipments had occured by then end of October.

October 30, 2013


Subsequent numbers by IDC have similarly indicated that big screen phones account for a similar minority of overall sales, underscoring why Apple hasn't rushed to join Android phone makers in releasing big phones.

IDC defined "phablets" as phones with screens as small as 5 inches, which would also include the Galaxy S4. In total, the research company stated that Android's premium phones made up just 21 percent of the "smartphone" market, indicating that the remaining 66 percent of Android devices are very low end products with an Average Selling Price of just $214.50.

Apple selling more premium phones than Samsung



In its fiscal 2013 ending in September, Apple announced sales of 150 million iPhones, mostly iPhone 5 models, as well as 71 million iPads, a total of over 221 million premium smartphones and tablets.

Outside of tablet-phone hybrids like the Note, Samsung sells relatively few standalone tablets, liberally giving away such devices with other purchases of TVs and other products. The company doesn't release quarterly tablet sales.

Another reality highlighted in the company's infographic is the the radical shift the company made in 2009 when began efforts to clone the iPhone. Prior to that year, the only phones sold by the company that reached into 10 million units were simple flip phones or button-oriented candy bar models running Symbian.



Immediately after the "crisis of design" that leaked during the Apple vs Samsung trial last year, all of Samsung's subsequent phones appear to be copies of Apple's large touch screen iPhone concept.

Outside of Samsung, other large Android licensees are doing even worse in their attempts to sell premium phones. The HTC One turned out to be a tremendous disappointment for the company despite garnering more positive reviews than Samsung's phones.

Android Beat relayed news from the Korean language Asia Today this week that pegged quarterly sales of LG's flagship G2 at just 2.3 million units, short of the company's goal of 3 million units despite a prominent ad campaign focusing on the devices' rear fingertip controller.
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Thank you Samsung Insider 1biggrin.gif
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Heh heh. Is anyone surprised? 1rolleyes.gif

('Cagy' or 'cagey'?).
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Phabulous!

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Extrapolate it will give 15mil note3 in a quarter. We know s4 sold 40 mil in two months so that's 20 mil per quarter. This give a total of 35 mil.

Apple best quarter is when it sold 47 mil phones and roughly half of these are high ends (I.e 23.5 mil)

With just 2 models in the premium range samsung still sold at least 50 percent more premium phones than apple.

Looking at it straight on not a roundabout way gives a completely different picture than this article.
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Extrapolate it will give 15mil note3 in a quarter. We know s4 sold 40 mil in two months so that's 20 mil per quarter. This give a total of 35 mil.

Apple best quarter is when it sold 47 mil phones and roughly half of these are high ends (I.e 23.5 mil)

With just 2 models in the premium range samsung still sold at least 50 percent more premium phones than apple.

Looking at it straight on not a roundabout way gives a completely different picture than this article.

Are you counting TV dongles in your figures?

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Extrapolate it will give 15mil note3 in a quarter. We know s4 sold 40 mil in two months so that's 20 mil per quarter. This give a total of 35 mil.

Apple best quarter is when it sold 47 mil phones and roughly half of these are high ends (I.e 23.5 mil)

With just 2 models in the premium range samsung still sold at least 50 percent more premium phones than apple.

Looking at it straight on not a roundabout way gives a completely different picture than this article.

What part of 150 million iPhones did you have trouble understanding?

By far the most popular "premium" screen size is the iPhone screen size.
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LOL I like how the 2014 mystery device in that infographic has an even bigger fucking screen than the Note 3, as if that was the only idea they had for improving it: make it "speccyer."

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samsungtomorrow.com?

 

Here's to a 404 error ;)

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 Samsung's numbers revealing that its big screen Note 3 phablet will account for only a tenth of one third of its 2013 smartphone sale

Less cumbersome to just say 3.3%?

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I thought I saw a guy carrying a box with next-year's Samsung top-of-the-line smartphone. I mean, the box had "Samsung" all over it.

Turns out he was holding a Samsung 22" TV.

I knew it was going to have a bigger screen, but this would be really, really hard to fit in a pocket.
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Extrapolate it will give 15mil note3 in a quarter. We know s4 sold 40 mil in two months so that's 20 mil per quarter. This give a total of 35 mil.

Apple best quarter is when it sold 47 mil phones and roughly half of these are high ends (I.e 23.5 mil)

With just 2 models in the premium range samsung still sold at least 50 percent more premium phones than apple.

Looking at it straight on not a roundabout way gives a completely different picture than this article.

Seriously? Before you make such a moronic post, go get yourself a good education as you are obviously clueless! Apple ONLY sells high end advanced phones, even models that are two or three years old are high end. They still are updated with current iOS, unlike junk Android devices, and still carry state of the art features. They also are in such high demand they have excellent resale value. As to your Samsung numbers, you obviously flunked math class. Back to school for you!
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Phablet demand is not high? Or Samsung, Android Phablet demand not high?
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Originally Posted by zerobim08 View Post

Extrapolate it will give 15mil note3 in a quarter. We know s4 sold 40 mil in two months so that's 20 mil per quarter. This give a total of 35 mil.

Apple best quarter is when it sold 47 mil phones and roughly half of these are high ends (I.e 23.5 mil)

With just 2 models in the premium range samsung still sold at least 50 percent more premium phones than apple.

Looking at it straight on not a roundabout way gives a completely different picture than this article.

You have some really funny math, the S4 in the first two months sold 10 million according to samsungs own info graphic in the article. Guess you just didn't see that.  You must be using flawgic.

 

Here is a pict of it for you

 

notice that 10 million number.

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Phablet demand is not high? Or Samsung, Android Phablet demand not high?

Since Samsung's phablets are outselling other Android phablets it can be deduced that all phablet sales are phucking phlat.
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Originally Posted by zerobim08 View Post

Extrapolate it will give 15mil note3 in a quarter. We know s4 sold 40 mil in two months so that's 20 mil per quarter. This give a total of 35 mil.

Apple best quarter is when it sold 47 mil phones and roughly half of these are high ends (I.e 23.5 mil)

With just 2 models in the premium range samsung still sold at least 50 percent more premium phones than apple.

Looking at it straight on not a roundabout way gives a completely different picture than this article.

keep trying tiger, you'll get the hang of it soon.

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I don't know why everyone is poo-pooing Samsung's numbers. There clearly is a market for large and even giant phones.

Yes... Apple sells a metric-fuckton of phones already. No argument there.

But imagine how many more iPhones Apple would sell if they had equivalents to the screen sizes of the Galaxy S4 or Note 3.

Samsung just sold 10 million Note 3s in 2 months. Call it a hunch... but I bet sales of the Note 3 would be a lot lower if Apple sold their own "iNote" or whatever.

Let's face it... larger phones are here to stay. And there are plenty of people who consider Apple's 4" phone too small.

So they buy 4.3" 4.5" 4.7" 5.0" and larger instead.

Yes... 150 million iPhones a year is great... but wouldn't 200 million be better? 1biggrin.gif
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keep trying tiger, you'll get the hang of it soon.

Looks like a Samsung affiliate again - must be as they don't provide any evidence for the numbers just like Samsung.
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OK, lets take this really slow....

 

If Samsung sold 10 million Note 3 units and 'it's only been on sale for 2 months', and Samsung has stated that they will sell a combined 100 million Note and Galaxy S devices in all of 2013 (all directly from this article)....

 

This author concludes that "Galaxy Note 3 phablet accounts for just 1/10 of Samsung's 2013 premium phone sales".   The Note 3 was released on Sept. 25th, 2013.    He then concludes that phablets aren't as popular as thought.

 

Anyone see the obvious math error?

Anyone see the other obvious error with his conclusion? 

 

Another poor article on Apple Insider.

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I don't know why everyone is poo-pooing Samsung's numbers. There clearly is a market for large and even giant phones.

Yes... Apple sells a metric-fuckton of phones already. No argument there.

But imagine how many more iPhones Apple would sell if they had equivalents to the screen sizes of the Galaxy S4 or Note 3.

Samsung just sold 10 million Note 3s in 2 months. Call it a hunch... but I bet sales of the Note 3 would be a lot lower if Apple sold their own "iNote" or whatever.

Let's face it... larger phones are here to stay. And there are plenty of people who consider Apple's 4" phone too small.

So they buy 4.3" 4.5" 4.7" 5.0" and larger instead.

Yes... 150 million iPhones a year is great... but wouldn't 200 million be better? 1biggrin.gif

 

Great post and right on the money. I wonder how many of current iPhone 5s owners are like me that bought the iPhone for a variety reasons but are extremely unhappy with the display size. I was really on the fence about whether to stay with an iPhone or move to an Android to get the display I wanted but chose to stay mostly because of the ecosystem. If Apple were to make a larger iPhone I would trade up the first day it went on sell. There simply is no way to tell how popular a larger iPhone would be since none exist. Some people go with Android and many more like me stay with an iPhone but would far prefer a larger display. 

 

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I don't know why everyone is poo-pooing Samsung's numbers. There clearly is a market for large and even giant phones.

Yes... Apple sells a metric-fuckton of phones already. No argument there.

But imagine how many more iPhones Apple would sell if they had equivalents to the screen sizes of the Galaxy S4 or Note 3.
 

Apple is already maxed out producing its high-quality products - again. It has been growing its production capacity as fast as possible for years now, and still can't match demand.

 

THAT'S why changing the form factor would net them basically no more sales than they already make. Now, if they can ever get production in front of demand, then I think what you're suggesting makes sense. I'd imagine Apple has already got plans for exactly that.

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What's funny is that the iPhone 5s and 5c sold 9 million units in a weekend and was considered a fail. Apple can do nothing right in the eyes of the news media. I have to admit Samsung kicked Apple's butt in sales last year but not all smartphones are created equally. Unfortunately for Apple, Wall Street doesn't care about models or cost, only the total number of units sold matters.
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Apple is already maxed out producing its high-quality products - again. It has been growing its production capacity as fast as possible for years now, and still can't match demand.

THAT'S why changing the form factor would net them basically no more sales than they already make. Now, if they can ever get production in front of demand, then I think what you're suggesting makes sense. I'd imagine Apple has already got plans for exactly that.

Good point.

That's not exactly a bad problem, per se.

I know there are other companies who wish they had that problem. 1biggrin.gif
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What's funny is that the iPhone 5s and 5c sold 9 million units in a weekend and was considered a fail. Apple can do nothing right in the eyes of the news media. I have to admit Samsung kicked Apple's butt in sales last year but not all smartphones are created equally. Unfortunately for Apple, Wall Street doesn't care about models or cost, only the total number of units sold matters.

Units sold?

I thought Wall Street was all about money... revenue, profit, etc.

Who cares if Samsung sells 80 million smartphones a quarter... when it's a mixture of high-end phones and low-end junk?

I would assume it's much more impressive when Apple sells 50 million high-end, high-margin phones a quarter.

But that's just me 1smile.gif
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Since Samsung's phablets are outselling other Android phablets it can be deduced that all phablet sales are phucking phlat.

A lot of iPhone users are settling for smaller phones than we want to stay with Apple quality hardware & iOS.
Even though we have 8 Apple gadgets in our house I was so close to getting a note 3 but settled for 5s.
My wife & 2 BFFs defected this year for Notes due to screen size & last year many family & friends defected from Apple to S3s & S4s.
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Seriously? Before you make such a moronic post, go get yourself a good education as you are obviously clueless! Apple ONLY sells high end advanced phones, even models that are two or three years old are high end. They still are updated with current iOS, unlike junk Android devices, and still carry state of the art features. They also are in such high demand they have excellent resale value. As to your Samsung numbers, you obviously flunked math class. Back to school for you!

 

 

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Looks like a Samsung affiliate again - must be as they don't provide any evidence for the numbers just like Samsung.

 

 

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keep trying tiger, you'll get the hang of it soon.

 

You people don't read the news (or you don't read anything outside of here)?

 

I am just quoting what was released in the press.

 

This says 40mil S4 in 6 months ==> 20mil per quarter

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/124617-samsung-announces-40m-galaxy-s4-sales-to-date-moves-onwards-to-50m

 

This says 10mil in 60 days ==> 15mil per quarter

http://www.engadget.com/2013/12/10/samsung-note-3-10-million-sold/

 

You can spin this however you want but the fact still shows that Samsung sells more premium phones than apple.

 

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Looking at previous combo S3 + Note 2

 

50 mil S3 sold in a year

http://www.knowyourmobile.in/products/7519/samsung-galaxy-s3-sales-cross-50-million-globally

 

30mil Note 2 sold in a year

http://www.sammobile.com/2013/09/27/samsung-sold-over-40-million-notes-30-million-of-which-were-note-ii-sales/

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You people don't read the news (or you don't read anything outside of here)?

 

I am just quoting what was released in the press.

 

This says 40mil S4 in 6 months ==> 20mil per quarter

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/124617-samsung-announces-40m-galaxy-s4-sales-to-date-moves-onwards-to-50m

 

This says 10mil in 60 days ==> 15mil per quarter

http://www.engadget.com/2013/12/10/samsung-note-3-10-million-sold/

 

You can spin this however you want but the fact still shows that Samsung sells more premium phones than apple.

 

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Looking at previous combo S3 + Note 2

 

50 mil S3 sold in a year

http://www.knowyourmobile.in/products/7519/samsung-galaxy-s3-sales-cross-50-million-globally

 

30mil Note 2 sold in a year

http://www.sammobile.com/2013/09/27/samsung-sold-over-40-million-notes-30-million-of-which-were-note-ii-sales/

Reading and math are hard for you, aren't they?

 

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You people don't read the news (or you don't read anything outside of here)?

I am just quoting what was released in the press.

This says 40mil S4 in 6 months ==> 20mil per quarter
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/124617-samsung-announces-40m-galaxy-s4-sales-to-date-moves-onwards-to-50m

This says 10mil in 60 days ==> 15mil per quarter
http://www.engadget.com/2013/12/10/samsung-note-3-10-million-sold/

You can spin this however you want but the fact still shows that Samsung sells more premium phones than apple.

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Looking at previous combo S3 + Note 2

50 mil S3 sold in a year
http://www.knowyourmobile.in/products/7519/samsung-galaxy-s3-sales-cross-50-million-globally

30mil Note 2 sold in a year
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/09/27/samsung-sold-over-40-million-notes-30-million-of-which-were-note-ii-sales/

150 million divided by 4 is 37.5 million.
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Extrapolate it will give 15mil note3 in a quarter. We know s4 sold 40 mil in two months so that's 20 mil per quarter. This give a total of 35 mil.

Apple best quarter is when it sold 47 mil phones and roughly half of these are high ends (I.e 23.5 mil)

With just 2 models in the premium range samsung still sold at least 50 percent more premium phones than apple.

Looking at it straight on not a roundabout way gives a completely different picture than this article.

Samsung propaganda machine still at work - not sure who they think they're fooling.  Welcome zerobim08 on your first day on AppleInsider (at least under this name)

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OK, lets take this really slow....

 

If Samsung sold 10 million Note 3 units and 'it's only been on sale for 2 months', and Samsung has stated that they will sell a combined 100 million Note and Galaxy S devices in all of 2013 (all directly from this article)....

 

This author concludes that "Galaxy Note 3 phablet accounts for just 1/10 of Samsung's 2013 premium phone sales".   The Note 3 was released on Sept. 25th, 2013.    He then concludes that phablets aren't as popular as thought.

 

Anyone see the obvious math error?

Anyone see the other obvious error with his conclusion? 

 

Another poor article on Apple Insider.

 

Stop trying to do math here and just run with whatever sounds best for Apple :p

 

Although if you carry the author's own math and logic forward, in this very article he has proven that the iPhone 5s/5c are wildly unpopular failures.

 

He states Apple sold 9 million 5s/5c models in a weekend.  He also states that a total of 150 million iPhones were sold in a year.

 

Do the math!  9 million only accounts for 6% of Apples annual sales of 150 million!!!!  This debunks the common myth that that iPhone 5s is quite popular!

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You have some really funny math, the S4 in the first two months sold 10 million according to samsungs own info graphic in the article. Guess you just didn't see that.  You must be using flawgic.

 

Here is a pict of it for you

 

notice that 10 million number.

 

You forgot to factor in the sum of the square root of the sides of an isosceles triangle inscribed around Andy Rubin's head times the average number of megahertz Samsung is caught cheating on benchmarks divided by pi and rounded up to the nearest 40 million.

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Well, but you cant deny that there is a HUGE market waiting for a bigger screen iPhone.

Because While the Note 3 may not be selling that well. Most other Android Phone still have 4.3 - 5" Screen Size.

Apple would need to take away the Bezel in order to create a Phone that has larger screen while still works with one hand.
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It's interesting that they never actually say it reached 10 million. From a company that cheats at benchmark tests, that seems significant. Maybe this is a forecast (your mileage may vary)?
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Originally Posted by ksec View Post
Well, but you cant deny that there is a HUGE market waiting for a bigger screen iPhone.


Really?

 
Most other Android Phone still have 4.3 - 5" Screen Size.

 

The reason for that doesn’t have anything to do with preference.

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150 million divided by 4 is 37.5 million.


But out of these only 50% are the premium iphone5 ==> 19mil per quarter

http://macdailynews.com/2013/07/22/iphone-5-accounts-for-half-of-apples-smartphone-sales-iphone-4s-takes-30/

 

Using the quarterly figures for S4 (20mil) + Note3 (15mil) ==> 35mil per quarter

Using estimate of 80mil (instead of 100mil) S4 to be sold and maybe 40mil Note3 (likely as Note 2 sold 30mil)  ==> 30 mil per quarter.

 

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Using the a previous year figure:-

 

Samsung confirmed S3 (50mil) +Note2 (30mil) ==> 20mil per quarter.

 

Apple sold 120mil - 30mil per quarter at 50% premium ==> 15mil quarter.

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Stop trying to do math here and just run with whatever sounds best for Apple :p

 

Although if you carry the author's own math and logic forward, in this very article he has proven that the iPhone 5s/5c are wildly unpopular failures.

 

He states Apple sold 9 million 5s/5c models in a weekend.  He also states that a total of 150 million iPhones were sold in a year.

 

Do the math!  9 million only accounts for 6% of Apples annual sales of 150 million!!!!  This debunks the common myth that that iPhone 5s is quite popular!

That's still not right. Samsung  2013 fiscal year don't end until Dec. 31, 2013. So the figures on their sales are still on going and current. So the the Note 3 sales numbers are compared to up to date sales. Which is more accurate than taking the iPhone 5s weekend sales and apply them to Apple fiscal year 2013.

 

Apple 2013 fiscal year ended on Sept. 30, 2013. The 150 million iPhones sold is for fiscal year 2013, of which the iPhone 5s was sold for about 2 weeks. To make a similar comparison, you must use the total sales of all iPhones 5s to date and the total sales of iPhones in the last 49 weeks. (or whenever the date that the last sale figures came out for Samsung) 

 

But more than 6% (they did continue selling it after the weekend) iPhones sales is still impressive for only being on sale for about 2 weeks of Apple 2013 fiscal year.

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Extrapolate it will give 15mil note3 in a quarter. We know s4 sold 40 mil in two months so that's 20 mil per quarter. This give a total of 35 mil.

Apple best quarter is when it sold 47 mil phones and roughly half of these are high ends (I.e 23.5 mil)

With just 2 models in the premium range samsung still sold at least 50 percent more premium phones than apple.

Looking at it straight on not a roundabout way gives a completely different picture than this article.

Extrapolate all you want, fact is Samsung has not come close to those extricated numbers or it will not have less profit than Apple. And likely even the 5 million number is Chanel fill
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But out of these only 50% are the premium iphone5 ==> 19mil per quarter
http://macdailynews.com/2013/07/22/iphone-5-accounts-for-half-of-apples-smartphone-sales-iphone-4s-takes-30/

Using the quarterly figures for S4 (20mil) + Note3 (15mil) ==> 35mil per quarter
Using estimate of 80mil (instead of 100mil) S4 to be sold and maybe 40mil Note3 (likely as Note 2 sold 30mil)  ==> 30 mil per quarter.

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Using the a previous year figure:-

Samsung confirmed S3 (50mil) +Note2 (30mil) ==> 20mil per quarter.

Apple sold 120mil - 30mil per quarter at 50% premium ==> 15mil quarter.

1) How can you or anyone make a claim about different models from Apple when they don't separate out their models in their quarterly reports.

2) Why would you assume that anything other than the flagship iPhone is not a premium smartphone? I consider the iPhone 5C a premium smartphone even though it doesn't have the latest tech, but neither are most of the components used in the Galaxy devices you're touting as premium.

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But out of these only 50% are the premium iphone5 ==> 19mil per quarter

http://macdailynews.com/2013/07/22/iphone-5-accounts-for-half-of-apples-smartphone-sales-iphone-4s-takes-30/

 

Using the quarterly figures for S4 (20mil) + Note3 (15mil) ==> 35mil per quarter

Using estimate of 80mil (instead of 100mil) S4 to be sold and maybe 40mil Note3 (likely as Note 2 sold 30mil)  ==> 30 mil per quarter.

 

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Using the a previous year figure:-

 

Samsung confirmed S3 (50mil) +Note2 (30mil) ==> 20mil per quarter.

 

Apple sold 120mil - 30mil per quarter at 50% premium ==> 15mil quarter.

Samsung sold 20 million S4 in the first two months of sales. It took Samsung another 4 months to sell another 20 million S4. Notice that sales has already halved . They went from 10 million a month to 5 million a month, in 6 months. And you think that Samsung will sell another 40 million S4 in the next 6 months. I got news for you, sales is not going to increase for an old phone. Specially after the iPhone 5s came out.  Not even Apple can sell as many of the same model iPhones in the following 3 months than in the first 3 months after it was released. Samsung won't be see a spike in sales until the Galaxy 5 (or what ever). (Though they'll see a small seasonal spike for Xmas.) Samsung S4 sales of more than 15 million in three months is history as of July 2013. 

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Not even Apple can sell as many of the same model iPhones in the following 3 months than in the first 3 months after it was released.

All things being equal I would agree but Apple's massive unit sales mean they have to stagger their role out a lot more than other nations and with both the Chinese new year being much like the Western holiday season in terms of gift giving (which includes money to purchase gifts for oneself) and the expectation that China Mobile will be signing on Apple's first calendar 2014 quarter could be higher than their last for 2013.

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