iPod - Page 2

The thing with the iPod is if you look at the cost of the parts it's not over priced, but it's just more than a lot of people are willing to spend on MP3 player. Most people have better/more important things to spend $399 on.

[quote]Originally posted by iPoop:

<strong>It is incredibly overpriced. What is it, the Nomad Jukebox or something sells for $200 and its only real disadvantage is USB takes longer than Firewire.
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Yeah, try to stuff a Nomad Jukebox in your pocket and tell me that USB is the only difference. This has been beaten to death. The iPod is tiny so it must use a tiny PCMCIA size HD which is very expensive compared to the standard laptop HD used in the Nomard Jukebox and other similar devices. As an example, a 1GB IBM Microdrive costs around $350 yet you can get a 10GB laptop HD for less than half that amount. Why do you suppose that is? Toshiba sells the same HD used in the iPod for $399 direct. That's the same price as the iPod but with the iPod you get more than just the HD. You get a great MP3 player too. If you don't like the price just wait until they introduce the 10GB version of the iPod and the price of the 5GB version will drop.

apple_otaku

[quote]Originally posted by Mediaman:

<strong>The thing with the iPod is if you look at the cost of the parts it's not over priced, but it's just more than a lot of people are willing to spend on MP3 player. Most people have better/more important things to spend $399 on.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Exactly! I'm waiting for the 10GB version so I can use half of the HD space to store my files and use a disc repair utility with it. Can't do that with a Nomad Jukebox. I figure the 10GB version will be introduced at the same $399 price as the original while the original will drop $50 to $100 at the time of its introduction.

apple_otaku

IMHO the iPod is not over priced. I agree it is expensive but those are two completly different things. Also you are paying for the ipod for the same reason you bought a Mac. You wanted style, ease of use, functionality. I for one love the iPod and am dying to get one.

Strider

The market for the iPod is about to drastically increase.

<a href="http://www.mediafour.com/products/xpod/" target="_blank">Meet XPod.</a>

...Until Apple breaks the Windows functionality with the iPod "Maintenance update 1.1"

It would be so very Microsoft of them. :cool:

Mandricard
AppleOutsider

weee i bought mine, arrived yesterday (monday) <a href="http://homepage.mac.com/dvdevo/iMovieTheater2.html" target="_blank">http://homepage.mac.com/dvdevo/iMovieTheater2.html</a>

i love it..too bad its not easy to listen to during class because you have to take the whole thing out.

I would speculate that future versions of iPod will have mutiple purposes to not only include mp3 from iTunes but also short clips from iMovie or images. The name "iPod" implies a nuetral name which can have many uses. There can also be advanced screen to display images, UI, iTunes display, organizer?, etc. Can you imagine if this also had a airport card for wireless uplinks/downlinks like bluetoooth? or act as an electronic payment system? etc.

i also expect that the $399 tag is to get the hot and horny to pay more and then soon after in feb, decrease price to $299 maybe. i also expect that the firmware can be updated to support new and upgraded sw components.

if i were apple, i would be thinking about tying in every single "i" app into this or other new devices.

smart move i think. when chicks go shopping, they want to "accessorize". this
is apples way to accessorize around the shopping mall called digital hub.

Birthday last week. iPod next week.

[quote]Originally posted by Renoski:
<strong>I would speculate that future versions of iPod will have mutiple purposes to not only include mp3 from iTunes but also short clips from iMovie or images. The name "iPod" implies a nuetral name which can have many uses. There can also be advanced screen to display images, UI, iTunes display, organizer?, etc. Can you imagine if this also had a airport card for wireless uplinks/downlinks like bluetoooth? or act as an electronic payment system? etc.

i also expect that the $399 tag is to get the hot and horny to pay more and then soon after in feb, decrease price to $299 maybe. i also expect that the firmware can be updated to support new and upgraded sw components.

if i were apple, i would be thinking about tying in every single "i" app into this or other new devices.

smart move i think. when chicks go shopping, they want to "accessorize". this
is apples way to accessorize around the shopping mall called digital hub.</strong><hr></blockquote>

One thing the iPod gets little mention for is <a href="http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=60920" target="_blank">this</a>.

[quote]Question 20: Can I use FireWire mode with noncomputer products?
Answer: Yes. First you will need to reset your iPod. When the Apple logo appears on the screen, hold down the Previous/Rewind button and the Next/Fast-forward button simultaneously until the FireWire icon appears. When you finish using iPod in this "forced" FireWire mode, disconnect and reset it again before normal operation.<hr></blockquote>

So basically you can hook your iPod directly into your DV Camcorder and whoila... 5 Gigs of extra storage space.

[quote]Originally posted by Fran441:
<strong>How did you get to see it, though. Did you have to ask to see it, or did they have it on display?</strong><hr></blockquote>

I saw it because one of the Apple Store employees had one out showing another customer and I walked over and he asked if I wanted to see it and play with it for a minute.

iPoop, I consider this an advantage...

Cool - nice pics Eugene. I had that phone so I know how small that thing is.

Thanks alot - now I HAVE to go buy one.

ahhh nice pics eugene, my camera isnt that good... A sony trv 330 but thats all i have hehe.




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Why is it, that Microsoft is releasing XP worldwide on the same day and Apple can't do the same with the iPod, though it has already different languages on board???
On the first day the iPod was displayed in the German Apple Store Website I ordered one, but it is still being assembled...

Cool pics, Eugene..
Didn't thought the iPod would be THAT small in real life. :eek:

Maybe I'll buy one after christmas.. when the price will probably come down a bit. <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />

I'll be having mine tomorrow, can't wait

[quote]Originally posted by soulcrusher:
<strong>I'll be having mine tomorrow, can't wait </strong><hr></blockquote>

heheh you'll be excited.

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Question 20: Can I use FireWire mode with noncomputer products?
Answer: Yes. First you will need to reset your iPod. When the Apple logo appears on the screen, hold down the Previous/Rewind button and the Next/Fast-forward button simultaneously until the FireWire icon appears. When you finish using iPod in this "forced" FireWire mode, disconnect and reset it again before normal operation.


So basically you can hook your iPod directly into your DV Camcorder and whoila... 5 Gigs of extra storage space.<hr></blockquote>Nice catch Arty.... This is really cool people. The promise of firewire is starting to materialize with this sort of product....

You can't just plug it into a DV cam and expect it to work with HFS+ though...

The iPod is great and ingenious. Though it seems that it is using parts that are too new to be economically reasonable.

When it goes down to $249 or so next year it will be worth a spot on my Christmas list. Until then I'll be looking at the sleek little Sony units.

Check out the "sleek little Sony units":


$299 (CHEAP!) Sony MW-NS9; About the size of a large cigarette lighter, it comes LOADED with a WHOPPING 64MB MagicGate Memory Stick® which gives you the ability to listen to a whole CD at 160kbps encoding rate or almost 2 CDs at 128kbps!!!

Or you can buy a huge 128MB MagicGate Memory Stick® for a super low $170 more !!! Then you could listen to FOUR WHOLE CDs without changing cards.

After your total cheap cost of only $470, to copy those four CDs worth of music, it will only take 10 fast minutes over the included lightning-quick USB connection!

And in case you were worried about PIRACY, you should note that Sony's Magic Gate technology includes anti-piracy circuitry Built-in!!!

Okay... try this one... the tiny one that is about the size of a MD remote controller:



64MB fixed memory WOW!. USB COOL!.

Note: Neither of these are supported on Mac.

Anyone else still think the Sonys are a good deal?

"Uh... $399 [with Firewire, 5GB, etc.] is too expensive so I'll buy this $270 one [with 64MB, USB, no Mac support] instead..."

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One thing about Bad Flamingo's xsorbit server was that it was impossible to double post. Why can't UBB fix this one simple thing?

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Fitting that at Easter time the thread about the very first Apple Jesus device gets resurrected.