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Google on Tuesday unveiled an iOS version of the MyGlass companion app for the company's head-mounted wearable computer, making the device much more useful for iPhone owners.

MyGlass


Update: Google has pulled MyGlass for iOS from the App Store, but the company said it will return later this week.

The app replicates its Android counterpart's functionality closely and visually resembles Google's other iOS apps. Those with early access to Google's augmented reality headgear can use the app to set up their Glass, add and remove Glass apps, which the company calls "Glassware," add contacts to the device, and mirror Glass's display to the iPhone.

MyGlass also enables Glass's heads-up direction service, passing GPS information from the iPhone to Glass. A Bluetooth or Wi-Fi hotspot connection is required to transfer data back and forth.

According to Google, "If you don't have Glass, then downloading this [MyGlass] will be a waste of time."

MyGlass for iOS is available now as a free, 15.2-megabyte download from the App Store.
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Good to see them get an iOS version out, especially since the functionality is similar to the Android version. Not predicting a positive response on this site though lol. Curious to see how many Glass users out there have an iPhone. I'd guess a good number.
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Good to see them get an iOS version out, especially since the functionality is similar to the Android version. Not predicting a positive response on this site though lol. Curious to see how many Glass users out there have an iPhone. I'd guess a good number.

Interoperability is going to be crucial for the success of Google Glass.
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It has been pulled from the App Store, by Google. Google says it wasn't meant to go live til later this week.

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Doesn't matter, users are still going to be known as Glassholes.
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Doesn't matter, users are still going to be known as Glassholes.
There's always going to be those that are uncomfortable or feel threatened by new tech. Name-calling is just a way of dealing with those insecurities. Remember when some of the earliest iPhone adopters were called iPhony's by those who wanted to ridicule Apple?
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There's always going to be those that are uncomfortable or feel threatened by new tech. Name-calling is just a way of dealing with those insecurities. Remember when some of the earliest iPhone adopters were called iPhony's by those who wanted to ridicule Apple?

 

Apparently the guy standing next to you wearing glass at a urinal, can now take a picture with a wink of an eye.

 

Tell me why he shouldn't be punched in the face?

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Apparently the guy standing next to you wearing glass at a urinal, can now take a picture with a wink of an eye.

Tell me why he shouldn't be punched in the face?

Um... because he's not taking a picture of you standing at the urinal? Who the heck does that except "sickos" and there's no shortage of creative recording devices for someone into that kinda stuff already. Seems like shoe cams would be more problematic going by Walmart police reports. You've got some really oddball arguments for why Glass must be a bad idea. This one at a urinal is highly unlikely to happen to you or anyone you'll ever know.
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Um... because he's not taking a picture of you standing at the urinal? Who the heck does that except "sickos" and there's no shortage of creative recording devices for someone into that kinda stuff already. Seems like shoe cams would be more problematic going by Walmart police reports. You've got some really oddball arguments for why Glass must be a bad idea. This one at a urinal is highly unlikely to happen to you or anyone you'll ever know.

The overall point is valid though. Who wants to talk to somebody with a camera attached to his or her face?
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Good to see them get an iOS version out, especially since the functionality is similar to the Android version. Not predicting a positive response on this site though lol. Curious to see how many Glass users out there have an iPhone. I'd guess a good number.

 

iPhone users are well represented in the Glass Explorer forums- probably because its current price point demands someone who both loves technology and is relatively affluent and Apple fans generally fit that bill.  Its a pretty cool community and people are more focused on the cool technology than whatever brand of phone they use.  For the most part things work the same on both platforms with Apple occasionally lagging behind simply because a lot of it is still a work in progress.  The biggest drawback at the moment is since Glass has access to the 'insides' of Android devices, Google has made it so all your info is seen as a native phone request, with Apple Glass has to pair and make external requests so it is seen as an 'external' device so you need a tethered plan and everything you do is considered as being via a tethered device which apparently can get quite pricey.


Edited by Frood - 12/17/13 at 3:43pm
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The overall point is valid though. Who wants to talk to somebody with a camera attached to his or her face?

Personally I don't think I'd have an issue with it. I've never seen one in person but I thought Glass let other people in front of you know when it's taking a picture or (short!) video. If you aren't looking at or conversing with the person anyway it's not all that unlike someone taking a candid iPhone pic of you is it? You wouldn't know about either one and I don't really worry about those kinds of pictures now. Glass wouldn't change that at all would it?
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Apparently the guy standing next to you wearing glass at a urinal, can now take a picture with a wink of an eye.

 

Tell me why he shouldn't be punched in the face?

 

Do you punch people in the face that are talking on their cell phones?  They might not *really* be talking and could just be walking around pretending to talk with their camera rolling.

 

 

I don't wear my Glass to social areas or restaurants, and certainly not in bathrooms.  I actually think that is a valid concern and argument.  They are great to play with the nieces or go hiking with.  Its a great technology with a lot of potential.  I'll let society determine the norms but my vote is certainly adopting and moving forward.  It really isn't much different than if Apple invented a transparent phone that hovers along just over your head.  Once you get used to it always being there and just popping up when you need it, having to reach into your pocket and grab a phone and turn it on seems like such an unnecessary nuisance.  It would be a little like having to get up and walk to the TV to change the channel.


Edited by Frood - 12/17/13 at 3:44pm
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Personally I don't think I'd have an issue with it. I've never seen one in person but I thought Glass let other people in front of you know when it's taking a picture or (short!) video. If you aren't looking at or conversing with the person anyway it's not all that unlike someone taking a candid iPhone pic of you is it? You wouldn't know about either one and I don't really worry about those kinds of pictures now. Glass wouldn't change that at all would it?


 No indicators.  Much like a cell phone it doesn't have any special lights, beeps, or informational messages saying 'Warning!  I am recording!  Warning!'

 

Clips are short, 10 seconds by default and voice activated- so if you are near someone you'll generally know they are recording.  You can also record or do extending recordings using the touchbar but again, you would see someone interacting with their Glass.

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 No indicators.  Much like a cell phone it doesn't have any special lights, beeps, or informational messages saying 'Warning!  I am recording!  Warning!'

Clips are short, 10 seconds by default and voice activated- so if you are near someone you'll generally know they are recording.  You can also record or do extending recordings using the touchbar but again, you would see someone interacting with their Glass.

Thanks for the info.1smile.gif
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Um... because he's not taking a picture of you standing at the urinal?

 

Prove it.

 

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Personally I don't think I'd have an issue with it.

 

Of course not. You have “nothing to hide”, do you, Eric?

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Prove it.


Of course not. You have “nothing to hide”, do you, Eric?

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...and voice activated- so if you are near someone you'll generally know they are recording.  You can also record or do extending recordings using the touchbar but again, you would see someone interacting with their Glass.

 

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Thanks for the info.1smile.gif
 

 

Wrong, check out the latest update:-

 

"Wink

Glass is about helping you look up and experience the world around you without getting bogged down by technology. Based on this philosophy, we've got a new setting that lets you quickly and easily capture the moments you care about with a simple wink of the eye. Whether it's capturing an amazing sunset on an evening walk, or photographing your receipt for the lunch you'll need to expense, you can now stay in the moment and wink to take a picture instantly.  If you want to turn it on, just swipe over to Settings.

We’re starting with pictures, but just think about what else is possible. Imagine a day where you’re riding in the back of a cab and you just wink at the meter to pay. You wink at a pair of shoes in a shop window and your size is shipped to your door. You wink at a cookbook recipe and the instructions appear right in front of you – hands-free, no mess, no fuss. Pretty cool, right?"

 

Source

 

So you wouldn't necessarily notice someone winking to take a photo.

 

Hence the punch in the face quandary when using a urinal near someone wearing Google glass.

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Independent from whether it's an Apple or Google or ACME product, I think two things are clear: technology will move ahead and Glass is part of this and therefore likely to stay. Like with other inventions such as cameras on mobile phones it broadens the potential applications as well as lowers the bar to actually perform these tasks. This us by definition part of progress and often the inventors' intention. Therefore, misuse obviously also gets easier. Part of life.

Personally, I am pretty sure that there are many occasions where I have not noticed or would not notice if someone e.g. Is taking a photo or video of me. Am I concerned? Not really at this point. However, extrapolating the technological development I do foresee a time where the ease of use and unobstructiveness of undesired intrusion into your privacy reaches an Orwellian level. It reminds me if a story by Stanislaw Lem where a device is invented that allows recording any event and place in the past. Invented originally for use in historic science it turns out that past means any past including the very recent moment in time and hence changing society perpetually due to the fact that anyone can potentially observe anyone else in real time.

So while technological progress won't be stopped I don't trust social ethics simply to sort things out. I just don't fancy the idea that I have to count on my gf being published nude on FB or somewhere else just because some jerk feels it's a great idea. At the same time I don't want to enter neither a technological warfare to defend myself from such intrusions, nor do I want to be forced to change my life in a defensive way by w.g. avoiding nudist beaches with my gf in the future ( just an example) or watching around closely at a public urinal. While I don't have a solution I clearly feel that Glass is personally on the edge of what I feel comfortable with.
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Wrong, check out the latest update:-

"Wink

Glass is about helping you look up and experience the world around you without getting bogged down by technology. Based on this philosophy, we've got a new setting that lets you quickly and easily capture the moments you care about with a simple wink of the eye. Whether it's capturing an amazing sunset on an evening walk, or photographing your receipt for the lunch you'll need to expense, you can now stay in the moment and wink to take a picture instantly.  If you want to turn it on, just swipe over to Settings.

We’re starting with pictures, but just think about what else is possible. Imagine a day where you’re riding in the back of a cab and you just wink at the meter to pay. You wink at a pair of shoes in a shop window and your size is shipped to your door. You wink at a cookbook recipe and the instructions appear right in front of you – hands-free, no mess, no fuss. Pretty cool, right?"


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So you wouldn't necessarily notice someone winking to take a photo.

Hence the punch in the face quandary when using a urinal near someone wearing Google glass.

LOL!. Pretty sure you have to be looking directly at the thing you're photographing, If he's staring at your wanker that should be the first clue that something ain't quite right. (Edit: The second clue would be the shutter sound and the third should be when his display lights up showing an image was taken.) As for how Glass works, perhaps your's is set-up a little differently than Frood's.
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LOL!. Pretty sure you have to be looking directly at the thing you're photographing, If he's staring at your winkie that should be the first clue that something ain't quite right. As for how Glass works, perhaps your's is set-up a little differently than Frood's.

 

It's a firmware update which was just released as you can see from the source I linked to.

 

I am surprised you are so ignorant of Google matters, you usually present a bevy of links in support of their actions.

 

Now that Google has released this update all Frood's arguments regarding obvious voice commands and gestures become moot.

 

In a situation where a certain level of privacy is to be expected would one be within one's rights to remove the threat to privacy that Google glass represents?

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It's a firmware update which was just released as you can see from the source I linked to.

I am surprised you are so ignorant of Google matters, you usually present a bevy of links in support of their actions.

Now that Google has released this update all Frood's arguments regarding obvious voice commands and gestures become moot.

In a situation where a certain level of privacy is to be expected would one be within one's rights to remove the threat to privacy that Google glass represents?

Of course if privacy is expected then Glass, or a cellphone or a camera or a voice recorder or any other device capable of "saving the moment" should not be used. Why would Glass require special rules? Glass won't be welded to your head. You can take it off just as well as you can turn your cellphone off. Even easier and more obviously than your cellphone for that matter.

As for Frood's comments if he's inaccurately posted then I suspect he'll correct it.

EDIT: For what it worth the developer of the app (Winky) that's supposedly bothering you says
"his app does give users warnings. He said Winky will make a camera shutter-like sound when it takes a pictures, and others around the person wearing Glass can see the device's screen light up after a photo is taken."
Maybe the wink-for-pic creator is also mistaken about how it works.

He goes on:
"...besides that, DiGiovanni (the app provider) said he doesn't think Glass is a very good device to be creepy with because in order to take a picture or shoot video you have to point at your subject with your face. Instead, he thinks spy cameras or smartphones would be less conspicuous.

"It seems easier to take a picture I shouldn't be taking if I was doing it on my phone than looking directly at them and taking it with Glass," he said Thursday.


Do you disagree with his opinion that you can't hide surreptitious picture taking with Glass as easily as you can with a cellphone? You're apparently OK with a guy in the restroom talking on his iPhone (or is he?) or do you want to punch him in the face too?
Edited by Gatorguy - 12/18/13 at 6:22am
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Is there a setting within the app that prevents you looking like a glasshole, barking orders into thin air, and taking secret videos of 'hot chicks?'

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Is there a setting within the app that prevents you looking like a glasshole, barking orders into thin air, and taking secret videos of 'hot chicks?'

Those controls are all under remote settings on your iPhone.
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In a situation where a certain level of privacy is to be expected would one be within one's rights to remove the threat to privacy that Google glass represents?

Cell phones represent the same threat to privacy as Google Glass but you don't seem paranoid about people taking penis shots with them. As a new device, Glass represents even less of a threat because a) the level of ownership is so low there's probably as much chance being struck by lightning then having a Glass owner standing at the urinal next to you (not even factoring the tiny chance it's a person looking to get a money shot) and b) the activity is far more conspicuous to have someone turn and stare at your penis to get the shot. All this privacy invading behavior people fear from Glass is more easily and more discretely done with a cell phone. Want a good crotch shot? Drop your hand with the phone down to your waist. More interested in the woman's breasts and not what she's saying? Press the phone to the center of your chest and cleavage shoot away.
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Cell phones represent the same threat to privacy as Google Glass but you don't seem paranoid about people taking penis shots with them. As a new device, Glass represents even less of a threat because a) the level of ownership is so low there's probably as much chance being struck by lightning then having a Glass owner standing at the urinal next to you (not even factoring the tiny chance it's a person looking to get a money shot) and b) the activity is far more conspicuous to have someone turn and stare at your penis to get the shot. All this privacy invading behavior people fear from Glass is more easily and more discretely done with a cell phone. Want a good crotch shot? Drop your hand with the phone down to your waist. More interested in the woman's breasts and not what she's saying? Press the phone to the center of your chest and cleavage shoot away.

Hogwash. I can certainly tell if someone shoves a cell phone in my crotch. People can also tell if someone "points" a cell phone at them.
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Hogwash. I can certainly tell if someone shoves a cell phone in my crotch. People can also tell if someone "points" a cell phone at them.
Sure you can. 1rolleyes.gif

"Of course, most people use their smartphones for pictures the majority of the time, and thankfully, it's pretty easy to disguise what you're doing on a phone.

First and foremost, when you're snapping hidden photos with your camera, make sure you're holding it like you're using it to do anything but take a picture. Position the camera like you're texting, playing a game, or whatever else might natural in the situation you're in. Personally, I prefer the texting position, even though it's often difficult to get a good shot.

Second, if you want to conceal what you're doing from anyone behind you, it's important to hide your screen. On a jailbroken iPhone this is easy with SlyCam since it allows you to take pictures from the Notification Center without anyone behind you seeing the camera screen.

For non-jailbroken iPhone users, we like Real Spy Camera. Not only does the app icon call the app "Easy Calc," you can also shoot video, and use either your front facing or rear facing camera. However, the best feature is the fact you can set up a fake background as well, which means you can actually make your screen look like you're text messaging."

Want some more ideas for taking that naughty little picture on your cellphone without being seen doing it?
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/secretly-take-pictures-android-iphone/

One easy way – for guys at least – is place your smart phone into a shirt pocket. Use tissues for padding if the camera doesn’t quite stick out far enough, and avoid leaning over lest your phone fall out. This is fairly normal place to store your phone, so you’re unlikely to be called out unless your phone starts making shutter sounds. Alternatively, use a front facing trouser pocket, but bear in mind the angle and subject of your photography will be much harder to capture effectively...

...With an iPhone, some apps allow you to use the volume switch as a shutter release – this also works with wired headphones – so you hold the phone more conveniently, and trigger it as if you were simply listening to music."

It's not hard to find advice on using your iPhone camera in stealth mode. And don't forget, there's always an app for that.1hmm.gif

Seems a bit of FUD is being tossed about in an attempt to discredit a new product that didn't originate at Apple. I know you hate when that happens to an Apple product, but otherwise I guess you and Hill may think it's OK? I would hope you didn't have a double-standard.
Edited by Gatorguy - 12/18/13 at 10:54am
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EDIT: For what it worth the developer of the app (Winky) that's supposedly bothering you says
 

 

If you checked my source link you would know that this is not about a java program called Winky although it did provide the inspiration for Google's glass development team to add it to Google glass.

 

Maybe you need to use Bing to find this stuff, here seeing as Google doesn't seem to work for you.

 

News about Google Glass Wink

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Thanks for clarifying Hill. Most appreciated. I'd rather be accurate so no prob with the correction. So the current wink interface may or may not work the same as the "winky" interface. Have you got a link to a video of the beta-feature in use? Just curious.

Still doesn't change the fact that using a cellphone to take secret pics without being noticed is a lot less obvious than using Glass to do so. You don't have concerns with people around you with cellphones in a shirt pocket, even in the men's room. You don't question whether the person across from you is really texting or instead sneaking a video of you. At a party I don't imagine you keep an eagle eye on every person there to make sure you don't appear in a candid picture without your permission. Why is Glass so concerning to you, especially since the only image it can record is the one the user is looking at unlike a cellphone?
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Hogwash. I can certainly tell if someone shoves a cell phone in my crotch. People can also tell if someone "points" a cell phone at them.

You don't need to "shove" the phone in someone's crotch, just drop it to your waist like you would if you were normally carrying it. Easy and now you can be facing 90 degrees away from your actual target (like the imaginary perv at the urinal would be). And it's going to be at or near the perfect height for the crotch "money shot" unlike Glass which is stuck on your head. And if you actually happen to be sensitive enough to realize someone's phone camera is pointing at you, just imagine how much easier it will be to notice someone staring at you while wearing Glass.

People don't think twice about a person carrying a cell phone and taking discrete shots is damned easy. Sorry if that flies in the face of your anti-Glass paranoia/hatred.
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You don't need to "shove" the phone in someone's crotch, just drop it to your waist like you would if you were normally carrying it. Easy and now you can be facing 90 degrees away from your actual target (like the imaginary perv at the urinal would be). And it's going to be at or near the perfect height for the crotch "money shot" unlike Glass which is stuck on your head. And if you actually happen to be sensitive enough to realize someone's phone camera is pointing at you, just imagine how much easier it will be to notice someone staring at you while wearing Glass.

People don't think twice about a person carrying a cell phone and taking discrete shots is damned easy. Sorry if that flies in the face of your anti-Glass paranoia/hatred.

 

Why are you trying to minimise this issue, which goes to the core of technology and it's ability to erode people's right to some level of privacy?

 

Maybe restrictions should be applied based on where security camera's are allowed to be deployed.

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Thanks for the info.1smile.gif

 

At the time of my posting, it was accurate to my knowledge Gatorguy!  Actually the info I posted is still correct since I was referencing recording video which Wink does not (as of this second) apply to, only snapping pictures.

 

Wink is part of the XE12 upgrade which came out....... yesterday.  Go figure on the timing :p   Haven't had a chance to play with it yet.  (Wink is not the same thing as the app Winky).

 

It sounds pretty awesome for almost any scenario for picture taking....   except bathroom stalls :p

 

It already seems pre-old fashioned if you want to take a picture to have to pull your phone out of your pocket, turn it on, go to your camera app, line up the frame, hit the picture button.

 

Compared to just looking at something and winking there's a lot of missed photo opportunities waiting not to happen anymore.

 

 

I think the bathroom concerns are valid and I'm not opposed to a 'No Glass in Bathrooms' rule.  Its certainly for the best in the short run, and I'd take mine off out of common courtesy anyways- other than the fact that its really really easy to forget they are on.   

 

In the near term unfortunately I think its just a matter of time before we get 'fringe' news regarding Glass.  Both from the people on the fringes who feel obligated to buy a pair of Glass and camp out in a bathroom just to be a nuisance, and the Glass vigilantes on the other side of the fringe spectrum who are just looking to run up to the first person they see wearing glass and punch them in the face or otherwise throwing some kind of hissy fit.

 

Also, I do have an extra invite code that is good until Monday if anyone is interested.  Send me a message and please, only if you are actually interested in buying them.   I'll send you the invite for free but Google will want $1500 and change for the glass units themselves.


Edited by Frood - 12/18/13 at 8:24pm
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~~Quote: Originally Posted by hill60 View Post Now that Google has released this update all Frood's arguments regarding obvious voice commands and gestures become moot.
 
Actually, if you go read my original post, I was telling Gator that none of the safeguards he thought might be there are actually in place. I was telling him how to best tell if someone is recording in the absence of those safeguards, and all those methods still apply to the subject that was being discussed- recording videos (wink currently only applies to taking pictures).
Glass at least you'll know someone is wearing. All these new wearable smart watches coming out are a far bigger threat in the hands of the army of people that are dying to take random secret pictures of your junk. Technology does put a crimp on privacy any way you slice it. =/
 
    Banning cameras, cellphones, security cameras, and computers would certainly help, as would moving back into caves- but my personal opinion is that all of the prior have added more to make my life better and are well worth the tradeoff. Hoping Glass and even 'smartwatches' eventually get added to that group as well.
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