Originally Posted by bfulda
Thanks for the link, it added no value to support your comment at all. There were no costs, other than what you find on apples site, in your link. Maybe you copied the wrong link.
In my original post I submitted a personal opinon, which doesn't have to be supported via factual evidence. I own it. However, I will capitulate to your belief that it "isn't" price gouging. Apple has a 20% profit margin currenly. Which is far better than any other personal computer manufacturer now. This machine, based only on my poor memory, doesn't seem to be comparable to the earlier design with price
. The new system is way smaller, uses way less Aluminum, and has far less silicon in it. This from a visual perspective only. And yet it is more expensive. This is how I came up with the word 'gouging'. As it is my thought that even with the margins, that this machine should be a little less expensive than it is. Granted, now I come off as a whiner because I can't "afford" a new toy, but that was also offset by my humor (which is also subjective) so as not to be taken literal.
I have looked on the web for a teardown to no avail, so until it actually ships and ifixit.com is able to tear one down, a guestimate of costs is a mystery for the most part unless you have some intel on that. Either way, I think it is a nice machine and I am jealous that you or anyone else will have one. So back to the mine I go.....
You're right, that was the wrong article. But naturally, now I can't find the one I need.
But I'll attempt to give some idea of why it isn't gouging. First of all, don't use margins of PC manufacturers who are in a lot of financial trouble as a guide. They are in trouble because they sell machines at prices where they barely break even. That's not a good thing, it's a bad thing. You may think its a good thing, but no.
Apple makes good margins though Wall Street doesn't agree. Good margins mean a heathy company. That's what we want to see. Dell went private because they're in big trouble. Hp is in big trouble. IBM sold off pc's years ago because margins were deterioating. ACER is losing lots of money. Asus has seen its sales cut almost in half. Need I say any more?
As for the Mac Pro, it offers high end parts. It's graphics cards are priced well below AMD's versions of the same. Less than half the price. About a third, actually. High end CPU that costs almost $3,000 in an 8 core version. In reality, the price isn't so bad.
It's far cheaper to add more case. Previous versions came with gaming GPU cards. Those are far cheaper too. 6 thunderbolt sockets cost as well, as does a PCI SSD. You can price out a PCI SSD. You would be surprised at what they cost.
I'm not saying this is cheap, but it's not overpriced either.