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It doesn't sound like they told you the truth or, at least, the whole truth. Such an import duty wouldn't be legal under EU law if it was specifically British and not European goods that needed to be included in the product. A quick Google doesn't throw up anything either.

Anyway, my wallet is now £8000 lighter. 1smile.gif

Be it European or UK that's is a difference that really doesn't matter to an American not expecting it when buying there to be honest. But I suspect you are correct, if it is true I am certain it would be EU not UK. I send my best mate links to things we share an interests in such as cameras and lenses as well as Apple stuff and he always tells me he weeps for a while after seeing my costs compared to his. I vaguely recall when i was there my XJS had some additional tax on top of VAT as some one somewhere decided it was an unnecessary purchase it should be taxed even more.

Don't forget that 8K is a 100% deductible item the year of purchase if you are in business under new rules for 2012 and 2013 (assuming you are in US, I better check your details ...) Oops I'm an idiot I saw £ and it didn't register. Sorry 'bout that.
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It's protectionism under another name. Terrible. I left nearly 25 years ago, even the UK climate has gone to hell and a hand basket since then. I am one happy camper to now be American (and living in Florida's magnificent west coast too) 1smile.gif

I hope you shipped your daughter the Mac from here!

We bought it here, and she carried it over.
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We bought it here, and she carried it over.

Good for you. A perfect example of how protectionism bites those that practice it in the ass. 1smile.gif
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No they didn't.

 

Yeah. They did.

 

We can do this all day. Don’t act like you’re 5.

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Childish I know, but I can dream!!



That £ sign gets me every time. I was just about to say wow what a great price! LOL
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Yeah. They did.

We can do this all day. Don’t act like you’re 5.

Hey I did that till I was 7!
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I am curious why it cost $3500 to upgrade to 12 core for the base config and $3000 for the same thing on the top end machine?

 

thanks

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Probably import duties, shipping, insurance.

Here in Cannuckistan the base model is $3099, so they're adding $100. I'm not even sure that does cover FX. I don't see why they would choose to gouge one country and not another, so I suspect the Oz price is inflated for real reasons.

 

Interestingly, my original base-model MacPro1,1 cost me about $2700 (or $2800, I can't find the invoice). Plugging that into the Canadian inflation calculator gets me $3089, so basically the price has not changed since 2006.

 

Since buying the MP1,1 I've added two (or three?) GPU's, two HDs and some RAM. However, this process plateaued around 2009, and I've done nothing to the machine since. This leads me to believe that the new base model would be everything I would ever need.

 

I am concerned about gaming performance on those GPUs though, and since they are custom boards, there won't be any replacements on the market. I was considering buying  MP2010 model because it runs newer GPUs pretty much out of the box, so this is cause for some thinking.

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There is generally no such thing as free trade, and I don't see anything wrong with an import tax designed to encourage UK manufacturing or in the very least provide funding to keep displaced workers off the streets.

Well IMHO protectionism can bite you in the ass.

 

Ask American factory workers how they feel about their jobs being shipped overseas. I'm thinking their asses feel pretty chewed these days.

 

I used to buy into the corporate oligarchy's "free trade" arguments but not after the devastation of American manufacturing. Why do you think the US is still in a depression (sanitized by the corporate oligarchy's news media as a 'recession')?

 

So much for "Strong advocate for separation of technology and politics on AI." - they are interrelated on myriad levels. 

 

Maybe Jeff Bezos can run for President and 'extract value' from the US Government, before sailing off into the sunset on Steve Jobs' yacht...

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post #50 of 135
I'm curious as to why this Mac Pro is such a challenge for Apple to build. Is it a particular component that's holding it all up or is there something else going on?

Also, I can't recreate the February ship date. They all say January when I BTO.

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No they didn't. The only hesitation at the time was the high initial price, but that was negated a few months later by price drops, and completely a year later with full AT&T subsidies. After that it was full speed ahead.

It was expensive (still is), it was large (now it's too small), it didn't have the bestest HW to list on a spec sheet (still doesn't), didn't have a physical keyboard (still doesn't), didn't have cut/copy/paste, etc.
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The D700 is comparable to the FirePro W9000, the D500 to the W8000 and the D300 to the W5000.

What models of consumer GPUs do these correspond to? I know the D700/W9000 is basically a 7970, but what about the other two?

 

I have a 4870 in my machine and it has served my gaming needs for some time now. But the latest games, especially steam, could use a boost. But given that the 4870 has lasted over three years, I wonder if a D300 might be all I would need for the next five?

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hat would account for $300. The rest? Shipping?
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hat would account for $300. The rest? Shipping?

Here's a tip: why not ask them directly? Because bib-dribbling about it in a comment forum isn't going to solve much.
post #53 of 135
The media reporting on this new Mac Pro is ridiculous. Yesterday CNBC ran a story comparing it to a newly announced Chrome OS AIO from LG. As if those machines are in any way comparable at all.

And then some tech sites are reporting that a top of the line Mac Pro will set you back $14K. Of course they don't mention in the headline that they're including a 4K display in that price.

Then you have the tech sites that use a top of the line config price as click bait but in the body of their story say the price isn't out of line and will pay for it self in no time.

And finally you have all the clueless non professionals who would never need a computer like this for anything outraged by the price even though the price isn't outrageous at all and comparable Windows based workstations aren't that much cheaper.

Just curious...when Dell and HP release new workstations does the tech media run click bait stories claiming outrage over the price? Doubtful.
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Meanwhile in Australia Apple and price gouging, charging us over a thousand dollars more than in the US. At the current exchange rate, that's about a $900 premium over the US. Time for the ACCC to interview Apple again

I am sure you added sales tax to the US price and also factored in the increased cost of government regulation in Australia (like the extra year of warranty you require). Oh wait, you thought that was free...
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Ask American factory workers how they feel about their jobs being shipped overseas. I'm thinking their asses feel pretty chewed these days.

I used to buy into the corporate oligarchy's "free trade" arguments but not after the devastation of American manufacturing. Why do you think the US is still in a depression (sanitized by the corporate oligarchy's news media as a 'recession')?

So much for "Strong advocate for separation of technology and politics on AI." - they are interrelated on myriad levels. 

Maybe Jeff Bezos can run for President and 'extract value' from the US Government, before sailing off into the sunset on Steve Jobs' yacht...

Sorry if you felt I was being political, I wasn't intending to be. I don't see generalized global economics in the same light as hate filled political diatribes prevalent on most US blogs these days. I am a centrist, atheist, liberal, free market, background check supporting, scientist background entreprenure and don't fit any polital system known to man. 1biggrin.gif
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Probably import duties, shipping, insurance.
Here in Cannuckistan the base model is $3099, so they're adding $100. I'm not even sure that does cover FX. I don't see why they would choose to gouge one country and not another, so I suspect the Oz price is inflated for real reasons.

Interestingly, my original base-model MacPro1,1 cost me about $2700 (or $2800, I can't find the invoice). Plugging that into the Canadian inflation calculator gets me $3089, so basically the price has not changed since 2006.

Since buying the MP1,1 I've added two (or three?) GPU's, two HDs and some RAM. However, this process plateaued around 2009, and I've done nothing to the machine since. This leads me to believe that the new base model would be everything I would ever need.

I am concerned about gaming performance on those GPUs though, and since they are custom boards, there won't be any replacements on the market. I was considering buying  MP2010 model because it runs newer GPUs pretty much out of the box, so this is cause for some thinking.

To clarify one thing. There are real reasons for all the price differences. There is no reason for Apple to want to gouge any particular country. If they were going to gouge a country, it would not be Australia... If Australians are tired of paying higher prices for everything, they should talk to their legislature. In addition to the things I mentioned in my previous post on this topic there is one other point to remember. Apple runs stores and has employees in Australia. Apple charges on price for a device (online and in-store). It is very expensive to employ people in Australia, they all pay the price.

Our friends down under need to stop complaining about Apple and start looking for a new government.
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I am curious why it cost $3500 to upgrade to 12 core for the base config and $3000 for the same thing on the top end machine?

thanks
scott

There is a higher cost processor in the high end machine so the delta is smaller.
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Sorry if you felt I was being political, I wasn't intending to be. I don't see generalized global economics in the same light as hate filled political diatribes prevalent on most US blogs these days. I am a centrist, atheist, liberal, free market, background check supporting, scientist background entreprenure and don't fit any polital system known to man. 1biggrin.gif

That looks close enough to my own profile.
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Very disappointed about the Feb. delivery. Having promised a new machine for 2013, in 2012, and then telling us about it in June, but you can't have one until December...now I find out it will ship some time in February. I could have bought a top of the line iMac a year ago and been a lot more productive than soldiering on with my 2008 Pro.

Apple's former habit of saying nothing about new products until they're launched would far preferable to this BS.
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Very disappointed about the Feb. delivery. Having promised a new machine for 2013, in 2012, and then telling us about it in June, but you can't have one until December...now I find out it will ship some time in February. I could have bought a top of the line iMac a year ago and been a lot more productive than soldiering on with my 2008 Pro.

Apple's former habit of saying nothing about new products until they're launched would far preferable to this BS.

You could have done that. So why are you complaining? It was your choice, not Apple's. If you waited from all the way back in 2008, a couple more months shouldn't bother you at all.
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You could have done that. So why are you complaining? It was your choice, not Apple's. If you waited from all the way back in 2008, a couple more months shouldn't bother you at all.


I'm complaining because Apple has drifted into Osbourne territory on this one. I have held off on a purchase because Apple said they were delivering a new better product, but the actual availability of that product has drifted. It is evidence to me, their normal strategy of remaining silent is, frankly,  preferable.

 

I want my new toy. I'm pissed off because you keep telling me about it, but then make me wait longer. Waaa, waaa, waaa. Okay, I'm done now.

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Hey I did that till I was 7!
Sounds like being young for ever.
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Very disappointed about the Feb. delivery. Having promised a new machine for 2013, in 2012, and then telling us about it in June, but you can't have one until December...

Well, you shouldn't have waited, because some people are getting theirs in December, 2013. Promise: kept. Barely.

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I'm complaining because Apple has drifted into Osbourne territory on this one. I have held off on a purchase because Apple said they were delivering a new better product, but the actual availability of that product has drifted. It is evidence to me, their normal strategy of remaining silent is, frankly,  preferable.

I want my new toy. I'm pissed off because you keep telling me about it, but then make me wait longer. Waaa, waaa, waaa. Okay, I'm done now.

Fictional character Eric Cartman once froze himself in ice because he couldn't wait one month for the Nintendo Wii to come out. You should consider doing the same.

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Well, you shouldn't have waited, because some people are getting theirs in December, 2013. Promise: kept. Barely.

 

I want a BTO. Hit the web site as soon as I woke up and it was already Feb. I'm hearing the stock systems are all sold out too.

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I just wish it was cheaper.  This is one product that the upcharge for owning, to me, is price gouging.  I know, so don't buy it.  But if it were just a couple of grand or so cheaper for a medium setup, I would be putting in my order instead of complaining about the price.... just disappointed, .   For those that are in the xmas spirit and rich, you can contact me via email at handler at trunkmonkey dot org and pass it forward with a 4k monitor and medium build system.  Otherwise, I'm going to finish blowing my nose and go back to the mine....

Not price gauging at all. Perhaps you should find out what some of this costs otherwise.

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I'm having a severe problem with Appleinsider, and have been for a few days on my iPad Air. Safari keeps crashing. Sometimes it happens when I'm doing nothing, after 30 seconds, or so. Other times when I touch something, or when writing a post. Just totally random. Sometimes typing is so slow that the characters appear more than a second after typing. Back to 1975!

Not happening anywhere else.

Am I the only one?
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This is one product that the upcharge for owning, to me, is price gouging.  I know, so don't buy it.

 

You quite obviously don’t know. There is no upcharge.

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I want a BTO. Hit the web site as soon as I woke up and it was already Feb. I'm hearing the stock systems are all sold out too.

Sorry to hear that. I know the feeling 1frown.gif

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Thanks for the link, it added no value to support your comment at all.  There were no costs, other than what you find on apples site, in your link.  Maybe you copied the wrong link.  

 In my original post I submitted a personal opinon, which doesn't have to be supported via factual evidence. I own it. However, I will capitulate to your belief that it "isn't" price gouging. Apple has a 20% profit margin currenly. Which is far better than any other personal computer manufacturer now. This machine, based only on my poor memory, doesn't seem to be comparable to the earlier design with price. The new system is way smaller, uses way less Aluminum, and has far less silicon in it.  This from a visual perspective only.  And yet it is more expensive. This is how I came up with the word 'gouging'.  As it is my thought that even with the margins, that this machine should be a little less expensive than it is.  Granted, now I come off as a whiner because I can't "afford" a new toy, but that was also offset by my humor (which is also subjective) so as not to be taken literal.
I have looked on the web for a teardown to no avail, so until it actually ships and ifixit.com is able to tear one down, a guestimate of costs is a mystery for the most part unless you have some intel on that.  Either way, I think it is a nice machine and I am jealous that you or anyone else will have one.  So back to the mine I go.....

A couple thoughts…

1) What does a company's profit margin have to do with goods or commodities priced at a level much higher than is considered reasonable or fair? Why can't a company be more cost efficient in designing, sourcing materials, manufacturing, et al. areas, like economics of scale, that can lead to a higher profit margin?

2) What does the gross weight of a raw material have to do with cost of producing a device? Do you really not see how there is many costs involved in making products smaller?

3) Have you compared the costs of the just the CPUs and GPUs between the new and old Mac Pros?

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I want a BTO. Hit the web site as soon as I woke up and it was already Feb. I'm hearing the stock systems are all sold out too.

I scraped in a 5 a.m. EST.
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Thanks for the link, it added no value to support your comment at all.  There were no costs, other than what you find on apples site, in your link.  Maybe you copied the wrong link.  

 In my original post I submitted a personal opinon, which doesn't have to be supported via factual evidence. I own it. However, I will capitulate to your belief that it "isn't" price gouging. Apple has a 20% profit margin currenly. Which is far better than any other personal computer manufacturer now. This machine, based only on my poor memory, doesn't seem to be comparable to the earlier design with price. The new system is way smaller, uses way less Aluminum, and has far less silicon in it.  This from a visual perspective only.  And yet it is more expensive. This is how I came up with the word 'gouging'.  As it is my thought that even with the margins, that this machine should be a little less expensive than it is.  Granted, now I come off as a whiner because I can't "afford" a new toy, but that was also offset by my humor (which is also subjective) so as not to be taken literal.
I have looked on the web for a teardown to no avail, so until it actually ships and ifixit.com is able to tear one down, a guestimate of costs is a mystery for the most part unless you have some intel on that.  Either way, I think it is a nice machine and I am jealous that you or anyone else will have one.  So back to the mine I go.....

You're right, that was the wrong article. But naturally, now I can't find the one I need.

But I'll attempt to give some idea of why it isn't gouging. First of all, don't use margins of PC manufacturers who are in a lot of financial trouble as a guide. They are in trouble because they sell machines at prices where they barely break even. That's not a good thing, it's a bad thing. You may think its a good thing, but no.

Apple makes good margins though Wall Street doesn't agree. Good margins mean a heathy company. That's what we want to see. Dell went private because they're in big trouble. Hp is in big trouble. IBM sold off pc's years ago because margins were deterioating. ACER is losing lots of money. Asus has seen its sales cut almost in half. Need I say any more?

As for the Mac Pro, it offers high end parts. It's graphics cards are priced well below AMD's versions of the same. Less than half the price. About a third, actually. High end CPU that costs almost $3,000 in an 8 core version. In reality, the price isn't so bad.

It's far cheaper to add more case. Previous versions came with gaming GPU cards. Those are far cheaper too. 6 thunderbolt sockets cost as well, as does a PCI SSD. You can price out a PCI SSD. You would be surprised at what they cost.

I'm not saying this is cheap, but it's not overpriced either.
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R&D costs often figure into this. But high end machines also carry better profitability. That normal. It's also why companies would rather sell high end product than lower end product, even though they sell fewer units.


 
 
I can say, without any data to back my opinon up, that I believe they are charging more than their current profit margin of 20.05%, on this product and feel that the odds of me being correct are high.
 
Apple has done this on several products in the past.  Initial release is priced high, then later at some point, they drop the price and are still able to  maintain a high margin.  nothing wrong with this, just making a statement.


Huh. Somehow, my half of the conversation is missing. Ok, I'll try again.

Some of this is R&D costs. Also high end machines always have higher margins. That's the way it is.
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