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When Apple seeded the first OS X Mavericks 10.9.2 beta build to developers on Thursday, it was discovered that FaceTime audio had been quietly integrated into the Messages and FaceTime apps, suggesting the company will soon bring its first-party VoIP solution to the Mac.

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According to people who have used the new FaceTime audio for Mac, Apple has seamlessly integrated the voice over IP service into both the FaceTime app and Messages, complete with the usual graphical user interface and easy access to contact information.

As seen in the screenshot above, the UI itself is spartan, with an audio levels indicator, talk time, and call/end button accompanying a contact's name and avatar. During a call, users now have the option to switch between audio and video modes via a new button next to the mute switch.

In the beta, access to audio-only FaceTime calling can be accomplished through the FaceTime app as well as directly from Messages. Seen below, Apple has integrated a call button with a phone icon next to the FaceTime video's camera icon at the top of every Messages window.

FaceTime Audio


Currently, the iOS implementation of FaceTime audio delivers a better-sounding call, say people familiar with the service. When making calls in certain environments, some noted poor audio quality, with artifacts and substantial echo heard on the receiving end. The issues are most noticeable when first establishing a connection, but usually stabilize after a few seconds.

Any existing bugs will likely be worked out in future builds and it is possible that Apple will fine tune the dual microphone setups in current Mac hardware to deliver higher fidelity audio than presently offered in FaceTime video calls.

With FaceTime audio possibly showing up in the public version of OS X 10.9.2, users will have yet another VoIP option to choose from. A number of messaging services already have voice calling on offer, and Skype has been a long-standing dominator in the sector. But a built-in turnkey solution from Apple would no doubt be an attractive alternative, especially given the company's installed iOS user base.
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Finally I'll have something that I can hold up to my ear that is bigger and better than a Samsung Galaxy user's phone!
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So to be clear, this will allow you to call someone's landline or mobile from your mac?
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post #4 of 43
FaceTime audio = oxymoron
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Not to my understanding, no. This will allow you to make a FaceTime audio call to any iDevice that supports the feature.
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So to be clear, this will allow you to call someone's landline or mobile from your mac?
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I wonder when they will bring back conference video calls. I miss being able to video chat with family members this way.

iChat supported it just fine.
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I wonder when they will bring back conference video calls. I miss being able to video chat with family members this way.

iChat supported it just fine.
That would be cool.
However in the meantime I'm looking forward to FaceTime Audio, Mac style.

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I wonder when they will bring back conference video calls. I miss being able to video chat with family members this way.

iChat supported it just fine.

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So to be clear, this will allow you to call someone's landline or mobile from your mac?

It's VoIP for the Mac.
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post #10 of 43
I've never used audio call actually I hope apple brings the meeting conference up soon
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I've never used audio call actually
You've never made a regular phone call?
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This will be *actually useful* on a *broad scale* when Apple adds a dial-out-to-POTS service, like the one in GChat. It doesn't even have to be free.

The carriers might complain, but they've lost that battle already. With GChat and/or Skype available on almost every smartphone available, anyone who wants this service already has it. Voice is no longer worth selling, and the prices for voice plans are plummeting.

I think Apple could charge a reasonable value for unlimited North America calling, I would pay $4.99 a month for that I think. What is an equivalent Skype plan these days?
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This will be *actually useful* on a *broad scale* when Apple adds a dial-out-to-POTS service, like the one in GChat. It doesn't even have to be free.

The carriers might complain, but they've lost that battle already. With GChat and/or Skype available on almost every smartphone available, anyone who wants this service already has it. Voice is no longer worth selling, and the prices for voice plans are plummeting.

I think Apple could charge a reasonable value for unlimited North America calling, I would pay $4.99 a month for that I think. What is an equivalent Skype plan these days?

 

Sounds good in practice but the suggestion makes me cringe because it's really not straightforward. Apple users would have to get a new phone number as well. There was only one Grandcentral and Google bought them. I'm not sure Apple would want to start from scratch on something like this.

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Sounds good in practice but the suggestion makes me cringe because it's really not straightforward. Apple users would have to get a new phone number as well.

Dial-out only. GChat, not GVoice.

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Dial-out only. GChat, not GVoice.

 

Got it. That makes sense. It would be a nice feature. I just think it might prove distracting. Someone might want to receive calls or go so far as ditching a traditional phone altogether. Apple may need to be ready for that. Even Skype has the Skype-In as an a la carte feature. Anyway, discussion of the details aside, if Apple tackled it you know it would be done right.

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I wonder if there are any plans to merge the Phone, iChat, FaceTime and/or Messages apps in a future version of iOS and OSX? Would be handy to have everything in one app/location (speaking for myself).

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FaceTime audio = oxymoron

 

Not really.

 

It likely means that any iDevice becomes a phone and can use whatever dataplan available. This seems to have implications for cell phone companies that may track minutes but not data, or companies like magicjack.

 

You have any computer that can run FaceTime and is on a network, you can make calls.

 

It does seem like an Oxymoron, but it's a good money-saving way to deal with a phone call.

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There's no point in facetime when Skype is ubiquitous and available on every single platform.

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I wonder if there are any plans to merge the Phone, iChat, FaceTime and/or Messages apps in a future version of iOS and OSX? Would be handy to have everything in one app/location (speaking for myself).

 

You've got my vote on that. I'm kind of annoyed at all these different little tiny apps to communicate.

 

Google seems to have the edge up on this as you can even do a videoconference or chat within Google+ email. I'd just like to make sure I allowed access to various apps due to the "FaceBook" embedded nonsense.

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Not really.

It likely means that any iDevice becomes a phone and can use whatever dataplan available. This seems to have implications for cell phone companies that may track minutes but not data, or companies like magicjack.

You have any computer that can run FaceTime and is on a network, you can make calls.

It does seem like an Oxymoron, but it's a good money-saving way to deal with a phone call.

Haha - it is an oxymoron.

That doesn't mean I don't think it's good - I think it's great. It's FaceTime without the face to face ;p
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Hot Diggerty!

Finally I'll have something that I can hold up to my ear that is bigger and better than a Samsung Galaxy user's phone!

:lol::lol: 

Phew, scratch the iPhablet too.

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Not really.

It likely means that any iDevice becomes a phone and can use whatever dataplan available. This seems to have implications for cell phone companies that may track minutes but not data, or companies like magicjack.

You have any computer that can run FaceTime and is on a network, you can make calls.

It does seem like an Oxymoron, but it's a good money-saving way to deal with a phone call.
Not sure you know what an oxymoron is... :-P
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Originally Posted by frxntier View Post
Not sure you know what an oxymoron is... :-P


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iChat AV always supported audio chats.  FaceTime audio would only benefit iPod Touch or iPad users on Wi-Fi.  FaceTime audio chats does not serve any purpose with an iPhone because if you wanted an audio chat, you can dial their phone number instead. 

 

FireFox is now the required browser for this website.  Safari crashes constantly whenever you try to comment in the forums.  An Apple-related site that does not support the preferred browser on the Mac.

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Originally Posted by hillstones View Post
FaceTime audio would only benefit iPod Touch or iPad users on Wi-Fi.

 

No, not really. It benefits all users, as now they can do audio calls to said phones and PMPs.

 
FaceTime audio chats does not serve any purpose with an iPhone because if you wanted an audio chat, you can dial their phone number instead. 

 

So you can’t think of any reason that might not work out?

 
FireFox is now the required browser for this website.  Safari crashes constantly whenever you try to comment in the forums. 

 

No, Safari works. Update your OS.

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iChat AV always supported audio chats.  FaceTime audio would only benefit iPod Touch or iPad users on Wi-Fi.  FaceTime audio chats does not serve any purpose with an iPhone because if you wanted an audio chat, you can dial their phone number instead.


What if you are on wifi but inside a building with poor cell service?
What if you want to call someone without a phone or without cell service but they do have a Mac?
Also, FaceTime audio is much, much clearer than regular cell service audio
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FaceTime audio would only benefit iPod Touch or iPad users on Wi-Fi.
Or an iPhone user who wants to talk to someone with an iPod Touch or iPad (in addition to iPhone or (soon) Mac).

Or an iPhone user with no cell reception, but with wi-fi.

Or an iPhone user without a voice plan or on pay-as-you-go.

Or an iPhone user calling internationally.

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Allow us to make face time audio calls over 3G. AT&T's audio quality is just awful
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No, Safari works. Update your OS.

Safari was the problem, not the OS.  Apple recently kicked out Safari 6.1.1 which fixed the text entry bug.  Had nothing to do with the OS.  Software Update through the App Store is weak and just notified me of the update today.  Mavericks is riddled with many more bugs, as you pointed out with iBooks, so it is not worth using.

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Or an iPhone user without a voice plan.

That would be called a dumbass to have a phone without a voice plan.  If you transfer your plan to a new phone, then your old iPhone becomes an iPod touch, which I already pointed out is limited to Wi-Fi.  Some places have lousy Wi-Fi so a cellular call would be better than an FT audio call.  FaceTime is pretty poor since Apple lost the licensing patent suit which caused them to change the server operation.  It worked great when it first rolled out.

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Originally Posted by hillstones View Post
Safari was the problem, not the OS.

 

And you can only get the update to Safari by updating the OS.

 
so it is not worth using.

 

Well, that’s just wrong.

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And you can only get the update to Safari by updating the OS.

 

Well, that’s just wrong.

You are wrong.  Safari 6.1.1 runs on Mountain Lion and Lion.  It is not Mavericks only.  6.1.1 fixed the text entry bugs with many websites, including AI.  It was not limited to Safari 7 on Mavericks.

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Originally Posted by hillstones View Post
You are wrong.

 

Except if you have 7, you can’t get six. Meaning to get 7.0.1, you update your OS.

 

Not that hard.

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That would be called a dumbass to have a phone without a voice plan.
Maybe in the US. Not unusual in other places to have a no contract phone. Or to have a contract with only a small voice element and a big data allowance.

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That would be called a dumbass to have a phone without a voice plan.


What if you get a new iPhone and give your kid your old one to use (for apps, games & music) but don't want to get them cell service?
Lotsa people ask how to do exactly this (use iPhone without cell plan).
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Except if you have 7, you can’t get six. Meaning to get 7.0.1, you update your OS.

 

Not that hard.

You still don't get it.  Safari 6.1 for Lion and Mountain Lion have the same features (and bugs) as Safari 7 for Mavericks.  Updating to Safari 6.1.1 for Lion and Mountain Lion fixed the same bugs as Safari 7.0.1 for Mavericks.  Not everyone desires to run Mavericks.  Many have uninstalled it.  Read the Apple Support Forum.

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That would be called a dumbass to have a phone without a voice plan.


What if you get a new iPhone and give your kid your old one to use (for apps, games & music) but don't want to get them cell service?
Lotsa people ask how to do exactly this (use iPhone without cell plan).

 

Why didn't you quote the rest of my post where I said using a retired iPhone is an iPod Touch.  Don't misquote me!

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Except if you have 7, you can’t get six. Meaning to get 7.0.1, you update your OS.

Not that hard.
You still don't get it.  Safari 6.1 for Lion and Mountain Lion have the same features (and bugs) as Safari 7 for Mavericks.  Updating to Safari 6.1.1 for Lion and Mountain Lion fixed the same bugs as Safari 7.0.1 for Mavericks.  Not everyone desires to run Mavericks.  Many have uninstalled it.  Read the Apple Support Forum.

Excuse me buttah, I think he means once you upgrade to 7 you can't downgrade to 6. After the release on Wednesday you could only downgrade until Saturday. AFter which Apple wasn't signing 6 anymore.
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Originally Posted by hillstones View Post
You still don't get it.  Safari 6.1 for Lion and Mountain Lion have the same features (and bugs) as Safari 7 for Mavericks.  Updating to Safari 6.1.1 for Lion and Mountain Lion fixed the same bugs as Safari 7.0.1 for Mavericks.  Not everyone desires to run Mavericks.  Many have uninstalled it.  Read the Apple Support Forum.

 

You’ll get it eventually. Nothing you have said is relevant at all.

 

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Excuse me buttah, I think he means once you upgrade to 7 you can't downgrade to 6. After the release on Wednesday you could only downgrade until Saturday. AFter which Apple wasn't signing 6 anymore.
 

Wait, they have to sign Safari? I hate it when OS and software version numbers sync up; it gets confusing. Not iOS, OS X’s Safari. 

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 Don't misquote me!


I didn't. misquote you That's what the quotes are for (or in this case the Quote block)
LOL...
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where I said using a retired iPhone is an iPod Touch
Except a retired iPhone is not an iPod touch.
It is an iPhone (without a voice plan) and you wrote, "That would be called a dumbass to have a phone without a voice plan".
(notice the quotes?)
Again, LOL...
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