or Connect
AppleInsider › Forums › General › General Discussion › BlackBerry loses $4.4 billion in Q3, sells just 4.3 million devices
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

BlackBerry loses $4.4 billion in Q3, sells just 4.3 million devices - Page 2

post #41 of 104
Quote:
Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rabbit_Coach View Post

The US government still has a very high opinion of BB.... doesn't let the President have his iPhone.

I don't think it's a high opinion, I think it's the fact the BB the president uses can have its HW and SW controlled much more easily than with modern smartphones. I doubt Obama is using the Z10.

In the MacRumors version of this story they mentioned that more than 3 million of the phones they sold were running the BB 7 OS.
post #42 of 104

Someone bring shovels.

Proud AAPL stock owner.

 

GOA

Reply

Proud AAPL stock owner.

 

GOA

Reply
post #43 of 104
Quote:
Originally Posted by TeaEarleGreyHot View Post
 


Respectfully, your perspective needs an adjustment.  That's 4.3 million devices in a quarter (phones of all types).  Apple is manufacturing/selling the iPhone 5s's (just the one model) at a rate of a half million PER DAY. 

http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/11/27/foxconn-building-500k-iphone-5s-units-for-apple-per-day-with-nonstop-production-lines

 

As to why BB is losing money, I can only suggest that their customers won't pay enough to cover costs and provide a profit (i.e., the product is not compelling enough that people will pay a premium for it). And BB doesn't have an effective, money-making app store.  Perhaps BB users buy a phone, and are satisfied doing their email and gabbing.  Whereas iPhone customers actually BUY apps and USE their phones for many more daily activities, ranging from internet-browsing to gaming to reading to productivity, to health monitor/workout coach and much more!

 

Not forgetting, of course, that Steve J. said he'd be happy with 1% of the market... right about where BB stands now [actually, BB has more than 1% of the market].

(Personally, I think SJ was joking)

na na na na na...
Reply
na na na na na...
Reply
post #44 of 104

This is the result of a blind focus on "market share", BB was once a leader, just like Nokia.

 

Too bad most people are too dumb to realise this, although a blind focus on market share makes for easy pickings for the wolves of Wall St.

Better than my Bose, better than my Skullcandy's, listening to Mozart through my LeBron James limited edition PowerBeats by Dre is almost as good as my Sennheisers.
Reply
Better than my Bose, better than my Skullcandy's, listening to Mozart through my LeBron James limited edition PowerBeats by Dre is almost as good as my Sennheisers.
Reply
post #45 of 104
Quote:
Originally Posted by willychu View Post

Wait, they lost $4B in the last quarter, but only have $3.2B left in the bank for this coming quarter. Am I missing something? Looks like GAME OVER.

Well, there's commercial credit.

"Apple should pull the plug on the iPhone."

John C. Dvorak, 2007
Reply

"Apple should pull the plug on the iPhone."

John C. Dvorak, 2007
Reply
post #46 of 104
I think they should stop worrying about hardware at this point and become blackberry software. And create a whole suite of secure apps for iOS. They could make a ton of money doing this. Turn into a small software company.
post #47 of 104

Constable Odo...Could agree with you more, except don't fire Mr. Cook, just give him back his job of expertise and get someone with a pulse and competitive fire in there as CEO, preferable someone under 50 years old so they can also least appear to have some energy.

 

Tim Cook has to be considered the most boring dude ever, and he has single-handedly made AAPL the most boring company in Silicon Valley.  Despite all their great products and phenomenal computing ecosystem, gone are the days of "edgy" ads and innovation.  Moving forward, AAPL clearly illustrates in their holiday ad, that if you invest in this company, you will end up like the grandma wiping her tears.  Better to invest in Exxon at this point.  The 5s is awesome, iPads are awesome, MacBooks, iMacs, iTV, etc. but the failure to roll out the China Mobile deal asap and in step with the 5s is just another missed opportunity by Cook and Co. These guys are showing their age, despite their operational expertise.  I have refused to believe that AAPL is finished innovating, but let's face it, SJ is gone and Cook is merely a candle flame compared to SJ's ability to create a firestorm.  Look at AAPL's executive page and it's like visiting a colonial wax museum...Get some fresh management and enthusiasm in there Cook, your present leadership is well represented by your holiday commercial...heartwarming, victory lappish, but boring and hardly a visualization of the future or anything to come.

 

Tim Cook is an "uber" boring dude with the personality of a viagra commercial actor.

post #48 of 104
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post

And their stock is up 7% in trading today.

 

At this point, their stock is up 15% for the day.  But I keep in mind that, even now, their stock is DOWN 95% since June '08.

post #49 of 104
Quote:
Originally Posted by TJRSV View Post

Constable Odo...Could agree with you more, except don't fire Mr. Cook, just give him back his job of expertise and get someone with a pulse and competitive fire in there as CEO, preferable someone under 50 years old so they can also least appear to have some energy.

Tim Cook has to be considered the most boring dude ever, and he has single-handedly made AAPL the most boring company in Silicon Valley.  Despite all their great products and phenomenal computing ecosystem, gone are the days of "edgy" ads and innovation.  Moving forward, AAPL clearly illustrates in their holiday ad, that if you invest in this company, you will end up like the grandma wiping her tears.  Better to invest in Exxon at this point.  The 5s is awesome, iPads are awesome, MacBooks, iMacs, iTV, etc. but the failure to roll out the China Mobile deal asap and in step with the 5s is just another missed opportunity by Cook and Co. These guys are showing their age, despite their operational expertise.  I have refused to believe that AAPL is finished innovating, but let's face it, SJ is gone and Cook is merely a candle flame compared to SJ's ability to create a firestorm.  Look at AAPL's executive page and it's like visiting a colonial wax museum...Get some fresh management and enthusiasm in there Cook, your present leadership is well represented by your holiday commercial...heartwarming, victory lappish, but boring and hardly a visualization of the future or anything to come.

Tim Cook is an "uber" boring dude with the personality of a viagra commercial actor.

How about Jason Statham?
post #50 of 104

Sean Penn, left-wing liberal, progressive, but not afraid to say something politically incorrect or hit someone right in the mouth.  Cook would like to think he is like SJ, but he's not even close...he's a gray-suit.  With the cool kid-super dork commercials, SJ was basically smacking Gates right in the chops.  Name once where Cook has displayed any attitude other than super limp noodle grandpa.  "We are not in the junk business" is about the boldest thing Grandpa Cook has ever said from my perch.

post #51 of 104

BB is DEAD.

iMac Intel 27" Core i7 3.4, 16GB RAM, 120GB SSD + 1TB HD + 4TB RAID 1+0, Nuforce Icon HDP, OS X 10.9.1; iPad Air 64GB; iPhone 5 32GB; iPod Classic; iPod Nano 4G; Apple TV 2.
Reply
iMac Intel 27" Core i7 3.4, 16GB RAM, 120GB SSD + 1TB HD + 4TB RAID 1+0, Nuforce Icon HDP, OS X 10.9.1; iPad Air 64GB; iPhone 5 32GB; iPod Classic; iPod Nano 4G; Apple TV 2.
Reply
post #52 of 104

I wonder how many IT guys still insist on BB, still?

 

...and Windows....and Android. 

 

Come on guys, get a clue! sheez.

post #53 of 104
Blackberry is dead. Run!
post #54 of 104
Quote:
Originally Posted by island hermit View Post
 

 

Not forgetting, of course, that Steve J. said he'd be happy with 1% of the market... right about where BB stands now [actually, BB has more than 1% of the market].

(Personally, I think SJ was joking)

 

While he was most likely joking, it's always important to consider margins.  There are companies in pretty much every endeavor that control a tiny portion of the market yet, because of high margins, make a great profit.  I have no idea, for instance, what Ferrari's market share is (yes, I know they are now owned by Fiat) but I'm guessing they still pull in a decent profit on each auto sold.

 

Whether that can be said about BB, I don't know (and frankly I doubt it).  

post #55 of 104
It's certainly sad to see a company that was so popular die a slow death. I hope they manage coming out of this situation somehow. Their last OS had interesting ideas and I thought it looked better than Android.
post #56 of 104
Quote:
Originally Posted by island hermit View Post

Not forgetting, of course, that Steve J. said he'd be happy with 1% of the market... right about where BB stands now [actually, BB has more than 1% of the market].
(Personally, I think SJ was joking)
He wasn't joking. He had seen the success of the iPod but also how hard it was to compete in markets with huge competitors like MS, even with a superior product. That may have been on of the times he was modest and ended up smashing the competition. But yes, he probably dreamt of what happened. How could anyone in his position not feel like a god?
post #57 of 104
Quote:
Originally Posted by island hermit View Post

Not forgetting, of course, that Steve J. said he'd be happy with 1% of the market... right about where BB stands now [actually, BB has more than 1% of the market].
(Personally, I think SJ was joking)

He also said "the first year" so we can assume he didn't mean for all time. Plus that was a simple, rounded figure where he, as I recall, considered there would be 1 billion handset shipped for 2007 and he wanted to sell 10 million units in the first year. Whether this was the remainder of the 2007 calendar year or the first full year of the iPhone being on sale seems up in the air, but moot.
Edited by SolipsismX - 12/20/13 at 4:27pm

"The real haunted empire?  It's the New York Times." ~SockRolid

"There is no rule that says the best phones must have the largest screen." ~RoundaboutNow

Reply

"The real haunted empire?  It's the New York Times." ~SockRolid

"There is no rule that says the best phones must have the largest screen." ~RoundaboutNow

Reply
post #58 of 104
Quote:
Originally Posted by ClemyNX View Post

Their last OS had interesting ideas and I thought it looked better than Android.

It didn't do them much good, now did it?
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example" Mark Twain
"Just because something is deemed the law doesn't make it just" - SolipsismX
Reply
"Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example" Mark Twain
"Just because something is deemed the law doesn't make it just" - SolipsismX
Reply
post #59 of 104
Quote:
Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post


He also said "the first year" so we can assume he didn't mean for all time. Plus that was a simple, rounded figure where he, as I recall, considered there would be 1 billion handset shipped for 2007 and he wanted to sell 10 million units in the first year. Whether this was the remainder of the 2007 calendar year or the first full year of the iPhone being on sale seems up in the air, but moot.

 

Well, I guess that should tell BB something. If they consider this the first year of the new company then all they have to do is come out with a revolutionary new phone and then the world is theirs.

 

Simple.

na na na na na...
Reply
na na na na na...
Reply
post #60 of 104
I have a Q10 sitting in my drawer. Problem is, many of the great and simple features that were perfect in OS7, don't even work in OS10. Can you believe, if you put a task in from outlook, you can't even put the time in so you can get an audible or visual reminder? Oh....you say you can in 10.2? Well guess what, 10.2 which has been out for months, has NOT been given a formal release from Verizon or ATT. Perhaps if they took a page out of Apple's book, and released updates directly, instead of through the carriers, more folks in the US would use BB! Their BES10 has been problematic since it was first released, and companies have refused to allow it in their enterprise. At least they have been working on that, but that was their bread and butter, and they have lost their core enterprise base. Most of the enterprises I am aware of, are still using their OS 5, 6, and 7 devices for reliability, and their older BES systems. What would be my perfect BB? A 9900 derivative, using OS7, with a MUCH improved browser. Thats all they really needed. (and better app support) OS10 is way too cumbersome IMHO. (I'm sticking to my iPhone 5)
post #61 of 104
Quote:
Originally Posted by TJRSV View Post

Constable Odo...Could agree with you more, except don't fire Mr. Cook, just give him back his job of expertise and get someone with a pulse and competitive fire in there as CEO, preferable someone under 50 years old so they can also least appear to have some energy.

Tim Cook has to be considered the most boring dude ever, and he has single-handedly made AAPL the most boring company in Silicon Valley.  Despite all their great products and phenomenal computing ecosystem, gone are the days of "edgy" ads and innovation.  Moving forward, AAPL clearly illustrates in their holiday ad, that if you invest in this company, you will end up like the grandma wiping her tears.  Better to invest in Exxon at this point.  The 5s is awesome, iPads are awesome, MacBooks, iMacs, iTV, etc. but the failure to roll out the China Mobile deal asap and in step with the 5s is just another missed opportunity by Cook and Co. These guys are showing their age, despite their operational expertise.  I have refused to believe that AAPL is finished innovating, but let's face it, SJ is gone and Cook is merely a candle flame compared to SJ's ability to create a firestorm.  Look at AAPL's executive page and it's like visiting a colonial wax museum...Get some fresh management and enthusiasm in there Cook, your present leadership is well represented by your holiday commercial...heartwarming, victory lappish, but boring and hardly a visualization of the future or anything to come.

Tim Cook is an "uber" boring dude with the personality of a viagra commercial actor.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TJRSV View Post

Sean Penn, left-wing liberal, progressive, but not afraid to say something politically incorrect or hit someone right in the mouth.  Cook would like to think he is like SJ, but he's not even close...he's a gray-suit.  With the cool kid-super dork commercials, SJ was basically smacking Gates right in the chops.  Name once where Cook has displayed any attitude other than super limp noodle grandpa.  "We are not in the junk business" is about the boldest thing Grandpa Cook has ever said from my perch.

I take a boring Tim Cook with his expertise over a youngster inexperienced nobody any day. You may think he speaks boring but this is not how he was received during his Auburn speech:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNEafGCf-kw#t=0

Further, there's no reason to believe Apple 'missed an opportunity with CM'. There have only been rumours, and I don't think Apple should lower their profit margins just because CM has the largest customer base in the world.

Lastly, Cook isn't trying to imitate Steve as he is a person in his own right. Steve was himself, for better or worse, I too enjoyed his keynote presentation skills very much. So much so that I actually miss the man. Still, if your post is taken at face value, meaning what would be best for AAPL, I'd say we all should be lucky to have Tim at the helm. This year has been yet another one with fantastic products, both software and hardware. Plus we have seen the stock:



If that is the work of a CEO, which I don't think it is, he certainly seems to be doing an exceptional good job. Even without looking at the competition.

In short, I don't think he looks like a 'commercial actor', but that is merely my opinion, just like you have yours.
Quote:
Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

He also said "the first year" so we can assume he didn't mean for all time. Plus that was a simple, rounded figure where he, as I recall, considered there would be 1 billion handset shipped for 2007 and he wanted to sell 10 million units in the first year. Whether this was the remainder of the 2007 calendar year or the first full year of the iPhone being on sale seems up in the air, but moot.

It was for calendar 2008. He specifically stated this in the very same keynote, but it's after his first statement that they wanted 1% marketshare.
"Fibonacci: As easy as 1, 1, 2, 3..."
Reply
"Fibonacci: As easy as 1, 1, 2, 3..."
Reply
post #62 of 104
Quote:
Originally Posted by TJRSV View Post

Constable Odo...Could agree with you more, except don't fire Mr. Cook, just give him back his job of expertise and get someone with a pulse and competitive fire in there as CEO, preferable someone under 50 years old so they can also least appear to have some energy.

Tim Cook has to be considered the most boring dude ever, and he has single-handedly made AAPL the most boring company in Silicon Valley.  Despite all their great products and phenomenal computing ecosystem, gone are the days of "edgy" ads and innovation.  Moving forward, AAPL clearly illustrates in their holiday ad, that if you invest in this company, you will end up like the grandma wiping her tears.  Better to invest in Exxon at this point.  The 5s is awesome, iPads are awesome, MacBooks, iMacs, iTV, etc. but the failure to roll out the China Mobile deal asap and in step with the 5s is just another missed opportunity by Cook and Co. These guys are showing their age, despite their operational expertise.  I have refused to believe that AAPL is finished innovating, but let's face it, SJ is gone and Cook is merely a candle flame compared to SJ's ability to create a firestorm.  Look at AAPL's executive page and it's like visiting a colonial wax museum...Get some fresh management and enthusiasm in there Cook, your present leadership is well represented by your holiday commercial...heartwarming, victory lappish, but boring and hardly a visualization of the future or anything to come.

Tim Cook is an "uber" boring dude with the personality of a viagra commercial actor.

Ever listened to a Larry Page keynote?
post #63 of 104
Quote:
Originally Posted by waldobushman View Post

The time for bbry has runout. They are operating solely on debt now. They will have to sell assets to keep whatever they keep in existence. What they have left is a certain loyal segment and some ip.

Maybe Nokia will buy them and go back into the phone business...
"That (the) world is moving so quickly that iOS is already amongst the older mobile operating systems in active development today." — The Verge
Reply
"That (the) world is moving so quickly that iOS is already amongst the older mobile operating systems in active development today." — The Verge
Reply
post #64 of 104
Quote:
Originally Posted by TURDZ View Post

...get someone with a pulse and competitive fire in there as CEO, preferable someone under 50 years...

Tim Cook has to be considered the most boring dude ever...

These guys are showing their age, despite their operational expertise....

Get some fresh management and enthusiasm...

personality of a viagra commercial actor....

To quote a very wise rabbit, Young Hipster, "Trix are for kids".

There's a reason that "may you lead an interesting life" is considered to be a curse, not a blessing.

Here's another one from "someone boring over 50": old age and treachery will always defeat youth and skill.

Perhaps you were looking for TMZ.COM?
post #65 of 104
Quote:
Originally Posted by TJRSV View Post

Constable Odo...Could agree with you more, except don't fire Mr. Cook, just give him back his job of expertise and get someone with a pulse and competitive fire in there as CEO, preferable someone under 50 years old so they can also least appear to have some energy.

Tim Cook has to be considered the most boring dude ever, and he has single-handedly made AAPL the most boring company in Silicon Valley.  Despite all their great products and phenomenal computing ecosystem, gone are the days of "edgy" ads and innovation.  Moving forward, AAPL clearly illustrates in their holiday ad, that if you invest in this company, you will end up like the grandma wiping her tears.  Better to invest in Exxon at this point.  The 5s is awesome, iPads are awesome, MacBooks, iMacs, iTV, etc. but the failure to roll out the China Mobile deal asap and in step with the 5s is just another missed opportunity by Cook and Co. These guys are showing their age, despite their operational expertise.  I have refused to believe that AAPL is finished innovating, but let's face it, SJ is gone and Cook is merely a candle flame compared to SJ's ability to create a firestorm.  Look at AAPL's executive page and it's like visiting a colonial wax museum...Get some fresh management and enthusiasm in there Cook, your present leadership is well represented by your holiday commercial...heartwarming, victory lappish, but boring and hardly a visualization of the future or anything to come.

Tim Cook is an "uber" boring dude with the personality of a viagra commercial actor.

Let's face it, moving forward, your brain is too cliché-ridden to figure out the intelligence of someone like Tim Cook.

And you managed to miss a rare event: Odo using a sarcasm tag to make fun of Cook-o-phobes.
post #66 of 104
SJ never mentioned that he would be happy with 1% market share. He mentioned that he want to at capture 1% by end of 2008.
Quote:
Originally Posted by island hermit View Post

Not forgetting, of course, that Steve J. said he'd be happy with 1% of the market... right about where BB stands now [actually, BB has more than 1% of the market].
(Personally, I think SJ was joking)
post #67 of 104
Quote:
Originally Posted by mubaili View Post

SJ never mentioned that he would be happy with 1% market share. He mentioned that he want to at capture 1% by end of 2008.

 

http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/161274/blackberry-loses-4-4-billion-in-q3-sells-just-4-3-million-devices/40#post_2448753

na na na na na...
Reply
na na na na na...
Reply
post #68 of 104
Quote:
Originally Posted by cfugle View Post

As the 'smart-phone' before smart phones existed, it did email, light graphics attachments, some document editing back when the iPhone was just a sparkle...

Let us give this company credit where it was due, for creating a different product with a secure backend that made believers out of the enterprises that backed them up.

Blackberrys certainly don't deserve the credit of being the smartphone before smartphones when they were preceded to market by equivalents from Nokia (Communicator range), Ericsson/Sony Ericsson (R380, p800) and Handspring/Palm (Treo).

I'd go as far as to say the only innovation the Blackberrys brought to market were the BES secure messaging features, otherwise the Treo and Nokia Communicators were already more capable devices than the Blackberrys.
post #69 of 104
Quote:
Originally Posted by Constable Odo View Post

BlackBerry loses billions, stock takes huge leap upward.
Apple profits in billions, stock takes a continual slide downward. Fire Tim Cook.

/s

Huge leap? For day traders maybe. For other investors ... well ...

AAPL
Dec 20, 2010 - $311.55
Dec 20, 2013 - $549.02

BBRY
Dec 20, 2010 - $58.48
Dec 20, 2013 - $7.22

And after Cook is gone, word is that Steve Ballmer will soon be available.

I admit to being a Fanatical Moderate. I Disdain the Inane. Vyizderzominymororzizazizdenderizorziz?

Reply

I admit to being a Fanatical Moderate. I Disdain the Inane. Vyizderzominymororzizazizdenderizorziz?

Reply
post #70 of 104
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kibitzer View Post

And after Cook is gone, word is that Steve Ballmer will soon be available.

Yes, AAPL is a way better investment, even with the moodswing/roller-coaster is experienced.

Why would Cook 'be gone'?
"Fibonacci: As easy as 1, 1, 2, 3..."
Reply
"Fibonacci: As easy as 1, 1, 2, 3..."
Reply
post #71 of 104

I am not a Cook-a-phobe.  Cook is the SJ of operations, best choice for interim CEO...but after China Mobile deal launches and supply meets demand, it's time to transition Cook back Ops only and recruit someone like Sir Richard Branson as CEO.  Obviously not as technically genius as SJ (who is?), but similar visions and endless energy.  Otherwise, AAPL just looks like another RCA or Blackberry...the shooting star syndrome.  Combine Cook with Branson and now you have something.

post #72 of 104
Quote:
Originally Posted by TJRSV View Post

I am not a Cook-a-phobe.  Cook is the SJ of operations, best choice for interim CEO...but after China Mobile deal launches and supply meets demand, it's time to transition Cook back Ops only and recruit someone like Sir Richard Branson as CEO.  Obviously not as technically genius as SJ (who is?), but similar visions and endless energy.  Otherwise, AAPL just looks like another RCA or Blackberry...the shooting star syndrome.  Combine Cook with Branson and now you have something.

Ha! Not gonna happen.

Proud AAPL stock owner.

 

GOA

Reply

Proud AAPL stock owner.

 

GOA

Reply
post #73 of 104

ha, why not?

post #74 of 104
Quote:
Originally Posted by TJRSV View Post

I am not a Cook-a-phobe.




Quote:
Cook is the SJ of operations, best choice for interim CEO...but after China Mobile deal launches and supply meets demand, it's time to transition Cook back Ops only and recruit someone like Sir Richard Branson as CEO.




Quote:
Obviously not as technically genius as SJ (who is?), but similar visions and endless energy.



Quote:
Otherwise, AAPL just looks like another RCA or Blackberry...the shooting star syndrome.  Combine Cook with Branson and now you have something.

"Fibonacci: As easy as 1, 1, 2, 3..."
Reply
"Fibonacci: As easy as 1, 1, 2, 3..."
Reply
post #75 of 104
Originally Posted by TJRSV View Post
I am not but

 

 

You have already failed. The content doesn’t matter.

 
…after China Mobile deal…

 

Prove that you know anything whatsoever about anything whatsoever before pretending you know anything whatsoever about anything whatsoever. I’m getting a little sick of these superlatives; people need to have a reason to claim something before claiming it. This shouldn’t even be something that needs to be said at all.

Originally posted by Marvin

Even if [the 5.5” iPhone] exists, it doesn’t deserve to.
Reply

Originally posted by Marvin

Even if [the 5.5” iPhone] exists, it doesn’t deserve to.
Reply
post #76 of 104

Prove it?  Try going long on AAPL and making money before you go broke....at the same time GOOG and AMZN go up on a daily basis.  Love AAPL, but investing in them with a long position is treacherous at best.  And what do you know TallestSkil about anything other than stroking anything AAPL.  Do you have any criticism of AAPL whatsoever, at anytime?

post #77 of 104

Cue mournful funeral music...

post #78 of 104
Quote:
Originally Posted by TJRSV View Post

Prove it?  Try going long on AAPL and making money…

There are a lot of people here who are long on Apple.

"The real haunted empire?  It's the New York Times." ~SockRolid

"There is no rule that says the best phones must have the largest screen." ~RoundaboutNow

Reply

"The real haunted empire?  It's the New York Times." ~SockRolid

"There is no rule that says the best phones must have the largest screen." ~RoundaboutNow

Reply
post #79 of 104

yes, I am sure....they are waiting in hopes of getting some of their money back.

post #80 of 104
Originally Posted by TJRSV View Post
Prove it? Try going long on AAPL and making money before you go broke....at the same time GOOG and AMZN go up on a daily basis.

 

And this somehow proves that Apple had/has a deal with China Mobile that “fell through”? Sorry, I don’t see where that sentence shows this information.

 

Don’t let your emotion screw you over.

 
Love AAPL, but…

 

WOW, you just keep doing it, don’t you?

 
…investing in them with a long position is treacherous at best.


You mean “without”. Because look at where they were in aught three ($7 a share) and look at where they are now.

 
And what do you know TallestSkil about anything other than stroking anything AAPL.  Do you have any criticism of AAPL whatsoever, at anytime?

 

And devolving to the emotional. That’s nice. Take a step back from your “plummeting” shares of stock and calm yourself first. Then answer where you have proof of the deal you have described.

Originally posted by Marvin

Even if [the 5.5” iPhone] exists, it doesn’t deserve to.
Reply

Originally posted by Marvin

Even if [the 5.5” iPhone] exists, it doesn’t deserve to.
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: General Discussion
AppleInsider › Forums › General › General Discussion › BlackBerry loses $4.4 billion in Q3, sells just 4.3 million devices