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The latest rumors from Apple's supply chain claim the company plans to launch two larger versions of its best selling products in 2014: A jumbo-sized iPhone in May, and a larger 12.9-inch iPad in October.

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The details were reported on Monday by DigiTimes, which cited its usual sources from Apple's suppliers in the Far East. The publication claims that Apple's anticipated 12.9-inch iPad will target the educational market in North America.

According to the report, Quanta Computer will manufacture the larger iPad. Apple is said to have been considering panel sizes of 12.9 inches or 13.3 inches, and is most likely to adopt the smaller screen size.

In addition, a larger iPhone using a 20-nanometer processor is also rumored to launch in May of 2014, according to the report. That phone's chip will reportedly run a processor designed by Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company.

The 12.9-inch screen size has been rumored for a future, bigger iPad on multiple occasions, though some reports have pegged such a device for an earlier launch in 2014. Apple's interest in a bigger iPad is said to be driven by the fact that tablets are continuously replacing traditional notebook PCs in the consumer market.

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The iPad Air is currently Apple's largest tablet with a 9.7-inch display.


Such reports are not limited to overseas publications, as The Wall Street Journal reported in July that Apple was toying with larger screen sizes on its best selling devices. Specifically, it said that Apple had built a prototype iPad with a screen size slightly less than 13 inches diagonally, putting it in a class with a MacBook display.

As for a larger iPhone, rumors have suggested Apple is toying with a design with a 4.9-inch display that the company could debut in 2014. Apple previously increased the size of the iPhone screen in 2012, when the iPhone 5 debuted with a 4-inch screen.

Noted analyst Ming-Chi Kuo of KGI Securities said in September that Apple is planning to launch a handset with a screen sized between 4.5 and 5 inches in 2014. According to Kuo, anything larger than 5 inches is unlikely, due to the company's Unwavering principle of one-hand use."

So-called big-screen "phablets" have become increasingly popular in recent years, with Samsung leading the way in terms of selection. The Korean firm's Galaxy Note III features a 5.7-inch display, while the Galaxy Mega comes close to being a small tablet with a 6.3-inch screen.
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DigiTimes.. Was wondering when the next media grab would come from them.. now we know.

Past that.. anything said in the article is irrelevant. It's DigiTimes.. nuff said
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Glad to read Apple will stick with the one-handed-use design principle.

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A few additional sizes are nice for giving people more options, but what I'm really anxious to see from Apple is something completely *new* - as in not just a iWatch in the form of a shrunk down iPhone, or iTV in the form of iOS on a TV. Something entirely new.

It's going on 7 years since the iPhone came out, and all they've done is make it in different sizes and colors.
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Dang It! Now that things have aligned... T-Mobile finally gets the iPhone after seven years, T-Mobile has a decent price plan $50.00/mo. I got to wait another five months to see if this is true before I make my first iPhone purchase?! Ugh!!! Oh well, I've waited this long, I can wait a little longer. Hope the rumor is true though.

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Since att now makes you wait 24 months to upgrade instead of the old 18 months, a May release would suck. Then again, with T Mobiles rumored announcement they should do good with a May IPhone release if it were true
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If it's true regarding a larger iPad then I think it would be very popular now we know that Apple can keep the weight down. I'm adding to my next Christmas wish list ...1biggrin.gif
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Really?  I guess siri, biometric identification, a 64 bit architecture chip, ect., etc., were nothing at all.  And what exactly has Samsung done other than steal from Apple and make a bigger phone?

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Will a buy a larger iPhone? Heck ya. Will it come out in May? Heck no.

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A larger screen is way overdue, I just came back from California and was shocked to see how many people were using a Samsung, compared to Washington DC that is. After using my friend's Samsung I realized that the screen size made up for all of Android's shortcomings, including the annoying lag in the browser.

 

Funny thing though, Samsung has the power-button on the side, when pressed for a short time, it powers the phone down. Apparently it was a common thing with the phone powering down a couple of times a day. 

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A few additional sizes are nice for giving people more options, but what I'm really anxious to see from Apple is something completely *new* - as in not just a iWatch in the form of a shrunk down iPhone, or iTV in the form of iOS on a TV. Something entirely new.

It's going on 7 years since the iPhone came out, and all they've done is make it in different sizes and colors.

Uhh... And revolutionized the tablet industry which created a paradigm shift and the perception of a PC? Now go away, unless you want to discuss another company that has completely revolutionized a market every 3-4 years.

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A larger screen is way overdue, I just came back from California and was shocked to see how many people were using a Samsung, compared to Washington DC that is. After using my friend's Samsung I realized that the screen size made up for all of Android's shortcomings, including the annoying lag in the browser.

 

Funny thing though, Samsung has the power-button on the side, when pressed for a short time, it powers the phone down. Apparently it was a common thing with the phone powering down a couple of times a day. 

 

get glasses

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Want a bigger phone? Yes, a 5" iPhone would be great, but why not go whole hog and add FULL cellular capabilities to the iPad mini? Talk about a "phablet!"

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get glasses

I'm 30, have perfect vision, and want a larger screen. That's a childish argument. If they released two sizes- the current form factor, and a larger- it would be great for Apple. And might as well change your tune now, because it will be happening- likely next fall.

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get glasses

 

Cute, and misses the point. Obviously different people have different wants and needs, otherwise there wouldn't be an iPhone, iPad mini, and iPad Air. We'd still just have an iPhone.

 

As such, Apple needs to have a smaller iPhone, a larger iPhone, and various sizes of tablets, just like they had iPod nanos, minis, Classics, and the Touch. 

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The details were reported DigiTimes, which cited its usual sources from Apple's suppliers in the Far East. The publication claims that Apple's anticipated 12.9-inch iPad will target the educational market in North America.

Why limited to NA?
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According to the report, Quanta Computer will manufacture the larger iPad. Apple is said to have been considering panel sizes of 12.9 inches or 13.3 inches, and is most likely to adopt the smaller screen size.

"or"? If true, I would assume they've been considering both sizes, trying to settle on one size.
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In addition, a larger iPhone using a 20-nanometer processor is also rumored to launch in May of 2014, according to the report.

Weird that the launch dates are known at the factory level. How on earth can they know how much ramp up stock Apple wants to have? Besides, I don't see 20nm coming to fruition this early.

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Something entirely new.

It's going on 7 years since the iPhone came out, and all they've done is make it in different sizes and colors.

So you don't think the retina Mini iPad isn't a groundbreaking product. Releasing the 5s with Fingerprint scanner is just evolutional? The whole design and marketing of the 5c was 'nothing'? The new FF iMac just a redesign? The new Mac Pro easier for them to make because it has less components? iBeacons in their Stores is just unnecessary buzz? All of that is 'different sizes and colours'?

What's next? Let me guess, when they do release something you never thought you wanted or needed it will be priced too expensive, right? For your first post here I'd welcome you to the forum... if you had something of substance to add, but alas.
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5 inch isn't suited for one hand use already.
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It will be interesting. The iPhone won't be huge, but will probably come in around 4.9". Still within one handed use. I believe once you get over 5 (from my impressions of dozens of devices), one handed use is officially compromised and becomes a two handed device.

 

That is the real measure that separates the two different kinds of devices: one-haned, and two-handed. The iPhone is a one-handed device, the iPad is a two-handed device.

 

They must remain as such. Therefor, there IS a limit to how big the iPhone can get, and it is probably right around 4.9".

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I hope they also come out with an updated iPod Touch. Has anyone hear any information about that?
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Digi Times = wild guess. To cover their asses, they will proclaim the ginormous idevices are delayed and/or cancelled at the last minute.
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Digi Times = wild guess. To cover their asses, they will proclaim the ginormous idevices are delayed and/or cancelled at the last minute.

 

If DigiTimes is as bad as everyone says, why would they even bother to cover their asses.

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That is the real measure that separates the two different kinds of devices: one-haned, and two-handed. The iPhone is a one-handed device, the iPad is a two-handed device.

I disagree. The real issue is that the world changes and people use devices differently than they did before. I do use my iPhone as a phone but I use it MUCH more as a very small computer For me it is a tiny tablet that also works as a phone. A lot of people around the world have only one device - their smartphone. As such a larger screened iPhone makes a lot of sense. This scenario did not exist a few years ago. Its not a fixed thing. People here should know that and not be so locked into old ideas when it comes to what a smartphone is.

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Dammit.  I have the Air and I love it, but I think i'd jump at 1 12.9" iPad.  I also love the mini I got my wife.  Smaller.  Bigger.  I want them all!

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They could kill two birds with one stone and announce a 12.9" iPhone 6.  Naturally, Samsung would announce a 13" Galaxy S5 the following day.  :lol:
 

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I disagree. The real issue is that the world changes and people use devices differently than they did before. I do use my iPhone as a phone but I use it MUCH more as a very small computer For me it is a tiny tablet that also works as a phone. A lot of people around the world have only one device - their smartphone. As such a larger screened iPhone makes a lot of sense. This scenario did not exist a few years ago. Its not a fixed thing. People here should know that and not be so locked into old ideas when it comes to what a smartphone is.
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5 inch isn't suited for one hand use already.

I think you just described the reason Apple created the iPad mini.
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Being serious for a moment, I'd rather have a multiple user accounts on my iPad Air (with fingerprint recognition to switch between accounts) than a 12.9" iPad.  At that size, I'd prefer the MBA over a tablet.  Obviously, YMMV.

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Digi Times = wild guess. To cover their asses, they will proclaim the ginormous idevices are delayed and/or cancelled at the last minute.

 

If DigiTimes is as bad as everyone says, why would they even bother to cover their asses.

 

It's called "plausible deniability".

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A larger screen is way overdue, I just came back from California and was shocked to see how many people were using a Samsung, compared to Washington DC that is.

Not sure where in Cali you were but here in LA I see dozens of iPhones and iPads a day and perhaps two Samsung, or even windows, a week

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How is the headline not including the phrase "as screen size war heats up"?

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Not sure where in Cali you were but here in LA I see dozens of iPhones and iPads a day and perhaps two Samsung, or even windows, a week

 

SanDiego and Culver City. If I were to guess, I would say I saw more than 4x Samsungs to an iPhone.

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A few additional sizes are nice for giving people more options, but what I'm really anxious to see from Apple is something completely *new* - as in not just a iWatch in the form of a shrunk down iPhone, or iTV in the form of iOS on a TV. Something entirely new.

It's going on 7 years since the iPhone came out, and all they've done is make it in different sizes and colors.

 

The Mac Pro is pretty new: http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/12/19/online-apple-store-goes-down-ahead-of-expected-mac-pro-release.

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It's called "plausible deniability".

 

Sure, that's what it's called... but how many times have you ever seen DigiTimes back peddle on a story,... they usually, if not always, just write another rumor.

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Hooray! The day is coming when iPhones won't fit in your pocket, has a short battery life, and is larger and heavier then the one it replaced. Put it in plastic and all they need is TouchWiz and the make over is complete! They'll ship millions to these to eagerly complaining forum posters, who will promptly find something else to complain about. Hopefully, this will put an end to Jony Ive's design group, and replace it with a team that just reads forum complaints all day for new product ideas. Also, fire Tim Cook. Because the torches and pitchforks crowd say so.

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Uhh... And revolutionized the tablet industry which created a paradigm shift and the perception of a PC? Now go away, unless you want to discuss another company that has completely revolutionized a market every 3-4 years.


Sure, Apple revolutionized the phone and tablet industries, no question.  But the iPad is *still* just an enlarged iPhone.  And if they come out with an iWatch and/or iTV, and they're just shrunk and/or enlarged iPhones, their revolutions are going to be less and less impressive.  

 

And not to counter with the one example most likely to get your panties in a twist, but for as much of a response to the iOS as it surly was, it could be argued that Android's open source nature has made it more revolutionary than iOS.  Android is running on phones, tablets, PCs, TV players, cameras, etc.  

I'm not even bashing Apple at all, I think they make fine products.  I just hope that they're up to something completely new, because just rehashing the same basic device over and over in different sizes and colors isn't going to maintain their image as an innovator.  I hope they do revolutionize another industry... and soon.  It'd be great for them and the overall tech industry as a while.  

But I see there's an unwillingness for discussion unless it consists of nothing beyond embarrassing flattery of Apple and their products, so I'll take your advice and go away.  
 

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What? A new phone in May? Isn't September the month they always release new iPhones?
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But I see there's an unwillingness for discussion unless it consists of nothing beyond embarrassing flattery of Apple and their products, so I'll take your advice and go away. 

A frequent source of confusion in the forums: "discussion" == philosophical agreement with me.

The world has more opinions than yours.

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get glasses

How's those glasses working with your 26" flat panel TV? People just like bigger screens, and with personal computing needs being done more and more on mobile devices the desire for a bigger screen becomes greater.
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.......... In addition, a larger iPhone using a 20-nanometer processor is also rumored to launch in May of 2014, according to the report. That phone's chip will reportedly run a processor designed by Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company.

 

Huh?

​Designed by TSMC ?  I doubt that.  But manufactured by TSMC  YES.

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But the iPad is *still* just an enlarged iPhone.

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Android is running on phones, tablets... 
 

 

Pray tell, what makes an Android tablet anything more than an enlarged Android phone?

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If DigiTimes is as bad as everyone says, why would they even bother to cover their asses.o

Over the years not one of Digitimes predictions that I have read (and there have been dozens), have come true.   In fact in most cases there so far off from the truth, its actually humorous.  There good for a laugh nothing more.  Just to add any article that quotes them is not worth reading either.

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