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post #41 of 68
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Originally Posted by hill60 View Post
 

Makes you wonder why a provider of pirated Apps would pay for this, given that the holier than thou Jailbreak crowd always come with the "jailbreaking is not for piracy" justification bullshit.

 

Stop. Just stop. YOU are the one acting "holier than thou" with your blanket condemnation of all jailbreakers. I'm among those who have jailbroken and I have never once pirated an app. Why the hell would I bother to save 99 cents?!? I jailbreak to have a customized phone. And it's my phone, I'm allowed to do whatever I want to it regardless of how much control of my life you want to have. Try learning to live and let live, and stop condemning others who don't do exactly as you would do.

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Originally Posted by ktappe View Post

YOU are the one acting "holier than thou" with your blanket condemnation of all jailbreakers.

 

Wait, was he talking about people who jailbreak or the ones who create the breaks themselves? That’s an important distinction.

 
Why the hell would I bother to save 99 cents?!?

 

You’d be surprised. :lol:

 
And it’s my phone, I’m allowed to do whatever I want to it…

 

I guess the fact that your phone is limited by forces far greater than Apple makes you livid every second of every day, huh. Bet you wish you could IMEI spoof or use your phone to make free international calls, and it’s just eating you up inside. :p

post #43 of 68
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Such anger and emotion over something that doesn’t effect you in the least. The apps that I use on Cydia are either free or paid just like the Apple app store. So the developers on Cydia get paid just like they do on the official store. What evidence do you have to suggest most people that JB are using pirated apps?

 



If these apps or functions that they enable were available on a stock iPhone or in the app store then I would see no need to JB. But I like the added control and options that allow me to select my own default apps, my own keyboard, and so many other nice options only available through jailbreaking. The percentage of people that JB is a small minority so I doubt Apple really gives a hoot about this small subset of users. But I would imagine without the ability to JB many would go to Android so I think the JB is helping Apple to keep these people in the fold. You don’t want to JB then don’t. But please stop trying to equate anyone that chooses to do so as unethical, immoral or even illegal because that is just silly.

Your apologist nonsense does not address why a provider of pirated Apps is sponsoring a jail breaking team.
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post #44 of 68
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post
 

 

And why does anyone support the modern jailbreak community, again?

 

 

You’re either a liar or a complete fool. There are no other options.

 

What do you mean there are no options?

I'm continuing to use my jailbroken 4S until there was a jailbreak for the 5S

and yes my 5S was not being used since day one

i restored it from iCloud backup when I got it

played with the touch id (very nice)

and left it as is since then till yesterday when I jailbroke it

 

 

Why would I lie about something so trivial?

post #45 of 68
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Originally Posted by SockRolid View Post
 

 

Just a matter of time before Apple kills off jailbreaking once and for all.

Looking forward to it.

We've been hearing that since the first jailbreak :)

they try, but as with any piece of software, it's never 100%

add to that all the major changes from ios 4 to ios 5 to 6 etc

they are bound to leave a few faults, that are found by the jail break crews

 

why does it bother some people here that jail breaking exists?

if you don't like it, don't use it

at the end of the day as long as it sells more apple phones, the better for apple

post #46 of 68
Originally Posted by kmarei View Post

Im continuing to use my jailbroken 4S until there was a jailbreak for the 5S and yes my 5S was not being used since day one

 

Absolutely psychotic.

 

Originally Posted by kmarei View Post
at the end of the day as long as it sells more apple phones, the better for apple

 

It sells an insignificant number of devices.

post #47 of 68
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post
 

 

Absolutely psychotic.

 

 

It sells an insignificant number of devices.

I find it highly assuming that you think I'm psychotic that I don't use the iphone 5S when it comes out.
reminds me of the old apple ad making fun of the PC users who were portrayed as lemmings, all following each other of the cliff.
 
remember when apple stood for "being different"?
 
So if I don't use the phone in exactly the same way apple sells it I'm psychotic?
 
in that case I have no problem being that way.
Try thinking outside of the box someday, it might relieve your anal retentiveness.
post #48 of 68
Tia a bit weird to buy it and not use it at all. Not psychotic exactly, but why didn't you just wait for the jailbreak before buying it? Would seem to be less hassle (given limited availability at launch) and you'd possibly get a better deal a few months in?

Not sure buying it as a fancy table ornament is what Apple means by "Think different" 1smile.gif

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post #49 of 68
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Tia a bit weird to buy it and not use it at all. Not psychotic exactly, but why didn't you just wait for the jailbreak before buying it? Would seem to be less hassle (given limited availability at launch) and you'd possibly get a better deal a few months in?

Not sure buying it as a fancy table ornament is what Apple means by "Think different" 1smile.gif

Because normally when they release a jailbreak. It's only for the earlier versions of the firmware.

with the iphone 4, the early firmware versions could be unlocked, the later ones could not.

As soon as apple finds out about the jail break, they update all the new phones they make, so when I buy from a store after the jail break, I won't know if its the jail breakable version or the updated one, that can't be jailbroken.

Besides there is never a price break for the top end model from apple. It's been $199 since the dropped the price of the first iphone and gave out $100 gift cards.

post #50 of 68
Good reasoning on the firmware, I didn't think of that.

In the UK the price levels don't change much, but if you wait even just a couple of months the contracts can offer more stuff (minutes, data, bundles) for the same price. Sucks if everything stays static where you are.

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post #51 of 68
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It’s all about inflated egos. It’s all about being told you can’t do something so, by god, you’re going to do it anyway just to show how self-important you are. It’s all about showing off in front of people to make them think you are better than they are. 

Having said that both of my sons jailbroke their iPhones just to see if they could do it. Neither saw any value or advantage to it and returned their iPhones to normal status. I think that’s the rule, not the exception.

I agree. A Fandroid friend of mine said (before he turned to evil) that he didn't like "Steve Jobs telling him what he can and can't do with his hardware." He proceeded to buy some kind of Nexus or whatever--he changes phones every 6 months to stay 1337--and root it and run Cyanogen mod, just to be like the cool kids. But he's otherwise an adult.

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post #52 of 68
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Originally Posted by kmarei View Post

i can change the sounds for new emails, texts etc 
and i don't mean the default options, but sounds to my liking
i have the sound of perry the platypus as my text sound 1smile.gif

Been doing that for years, here's a tip rather than leaving your phone on a night stand, learn how to use the freaking thing 1wink.gif

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post #53 of 68
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Originally Posted by Crowley View Post

Tia a bit weird to buy it and not use it at all. Not psychotic exactly, but why didn't you just wait for the jailbreak before buying it? Would seem to be less hassle (given limited availability at launch) and you'd possibly get a better deal a few months in?

Not sure buying it as a fancy table ornament is what Apple means by "Think different" 1smile.gif

Another consideration is also to use your upgrade date to get a subsidy as soon as you possibly can. The reason for that is every day you don’t use your subsidy you are basically paying your carrier extra money without the benefit of a new phone. As soon as you get a new phone your upgrade counter rolls over which means only 20 months in my case until my next upgrade credit. So that also probably figured in his decision. Some people don’t have an iPhone 5s and apparently take offense at it not being used immediately. ;-)

post #54 of 68
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Been doing that for years, here's a tip rather than leaving your phone on a night stand, learn how to use the freaking thing 1wink.gif

 

And can you also change the icons on the stock iOS 7?

or did you just pick one tiny statement to display your fan boyism?

post #55 of 68
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Your apologist nonsense does not address why a provider of pirated Apps is sponsoring a jail breaking team.

Assuming this rumour is true I'd say it's likely because they are unethical and greedy (two things that tend to go hand in hand). However, we shouldn't lump all developers who jailbreak into the same category; that would be like saying all stockbrokers are Ponzi scheme-running thieves because of Bernie Madoff.

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post #56 of 68
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And can you also change the icons on the stock iOS 7?
or did you just pick one tiny statement to display your fan boyism?

One statement that stood out like dog's balls as either a blatant lie or gross ignorance.

So which was it?
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post #57 of 68
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One statement that stood out like dog's balls as either a blatant lie or gross ignorance.

So which was it?

I'll respond to that after you tell me if you could change icons with the stock ios 7 or not :)

i like how you avoided answering the comment that reveals your ignorance, but you're still clutching at straws with my comment about the custom ringtones and yes I prefer to have file level access to my iphone. And copy my ringtones back to the device, without needing to connect it to iTunes everytime.

post #58 of 68
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Originally Posted by kmarei View Post

I'll respond to that after you tell me if you could change icons with the stock ios 7 or not 1smile.gif
i like how you avoided answering the comment that reveals your ignorance, but you're still clutching at straws with my comment about the custom ringtones and yes I prefer to have file level access to my iphone. And copy my ringtones back to the device, without needing to connect it to iTunes everytime.

You made the statement.

A blatant lie?

Gross ignorance?

No use clutching at straws going off on a tangent.

Which is it, lying or idiocy?
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post #59 of 68
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You made the statement.

A blatant lie?

Gross ignorance?

No use clutching at straws going off on a tangent.

Which is it, lying or idiocy?

Comprehension is obviously not your strong point

i made 7 statements about the merits of jailbreaking, not one.

you picked one, about the ringtones (clutching at straws)

and ignored the other 6

 

if you're such a smart ass, why didn't you comment about the other 6?

 

not so smart now are ya!

post #60 of 68
Originally Posted by kmarei View Post
So if I don't use the phone in exactly the same way apple sells it I'm psychotic?

 

I could wile away the hours,
Conferrin’ with the flowers,
Consultin’ with the rain…

 

Originally Posted by kmarei View Post
(clutching at straws)

 

You’re one to talk about fallacies. :p

post #61 of 68
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Originally Posted by kmarei View Post

you picked one, about the ringtones

To the best of my recollection, it was about message tones, more specifically text message tones.

Which have been customisable since iOS 5 I believe.
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post #62 of 68
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Originally Posted by kmarei View Post
 

 

What do you mean there are no options?

I'm continuing to use my jailbroken 4S until there was a jailbreak for the 5S

and yes my 5S was not being used since day one

i restored it from iCloud backup when I got it

played with the touch id (very nice)

and left it as is since then till yesterday when I jailbroke it

 

 

Why would I lie about something so trivial?

 

I can understand this.  I bought the 5S, like every other new iPhone on launch day.  However, after using it for a while, I felt like I preferred my jailbroken iPhone 5 better.  I didn't end up switching back fully, but can understand the desire to.  I ended up using my jailbroken iPhone 5 quite a bit (just not as a phone) as there are many things I can do with it that I couldn't with a non-jailbroken iPhone 5S.  There still are as many of the tweaks and apps aren't 64-bit yet.

 

This isn't unusual for me.  I usually keep last year's iPhone jailbroken and in my backpack as a backup.

post #63 of 68
Oh, the irony. In their second letter (http://evasi0n.com/l2.html) they say that
"We have refused all monies from Taig
There have been a lot of rumors listing various amounts we%u2019ve been paid. We have received no monies from any group, including Taig. ..." Versus, in their first letter (http://evasi0n.com/l.html) "Yes, we have benefitted financially from our work, just as many others in the jailbreak community have, including tweak developers, repo owners, etc. Any jailbreak from us will always be free to the users but we believe we have a right to be compensated in an ethical way, just as any other developer. ..."
Oh, oh, oh my.
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Oh, the irony. In their second letter (http://evasi0n.com/l2.html) they say that
"We have refused all monies from Taig
There have been a lot of rumors listing various amounts we%u2019ve been paid. We have received no monies from any group, including Taig. ..." Versus, in their first letter (http://evasi0n.com/l.html) "Yes, we have benefitted financially from our work, just as many others in the jailbreak community have, including tweak developers, repo owners, etc. Any jailbreak from us will always be free to the users but we believe we have a right to be compensated in an ethical way, just as any other developer. ..."
Oh, oh, oh my.

It sounds like Icarus flew too close to the Sun.

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It sounds like Icarus flew too close to the Sun.

I'd love to know how many here had to look that up. lol.gif
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post #66 of 68
I wouldn't, for fear that it'd probably depress me.

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I'd love to know how many here had to look that up. lol.gif

I considered adding a wikilink to my post but I decided against it.

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I considered adding a wikilink to my post but I decided against it.

Let them look it up and learn something. Next time hit them with a Sisyphus reference.
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