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post #121 of 130
Originally Posted by Vision33r View Post

It's there because businesses want it.  Macs are used at schools and businesses and in order for IT people to protect its assets from lawsuits they use that button to enforce software compliance.

 

No, they already had that power.

 
That lock is not the equivalent of Apple's lockdown on iOS device.

 

See, now you’re changing arguments.

 

One of the reasons I don't have an iPhone because I want to own my device and chose which iOS I want and control the behavior of my device the way I see fit.

 

Enjoy that nonsense, then. To each his own.

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post #122 of 130
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Because that option is the point of the service. Because that option is relevant to the argument. 

 

But is more restrictive than OS X previously.

[...]

 

The original comment to which you responded with Gatekeeper was

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Originally Posted by Vision33r View Post
 If Apple were to lock down Macs with the same protection scheme we'd have people breaking ranking quickly and threaten to move to Windows.

where "the same protection scheme" refers to that of iOS where the user does not have a choice whether to allow apps from outside the app store. Gatekeeper is no way "the same protection scheme" because it gives the user that choice.  To say otherwise would be to say that Android's system of disabling unknown sources by default is "exactly like" the iOS protection scheme. Besides, Gatekeeper is not much more onerous than the longstanding Linux practice of trusting only the distribution's software repositories by default. I don't understand why you keep bringing previous versions of OS X into this discussion. We are comparing software systems in the present. 


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post #123 of 130
Originally Posted by d4NjvRzf View Post

Gatekeeper is no way "the same protection scheme" because it gives the user that choice.

 

So you missed the rest of the post, then.

 
I don't understand why you keep bringing previous versions of OS X into this discussion.

 

Oh, never mind. You read the rest; you just don’t comprehend it.

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post #124 of 130
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So you missed the rest of the post, then.

 

Oh, never mind. You read the rest; you just don’t comprehend it.

 

The sentence

 

"If Apple were to lock down Macs with the same protection scheme we'd have people breaking ranking quickly and threaten to move to Windows." refers to the specific set of restrictions on iOS. It does not say "If Apple were to make OS X more restrictive than before we'd have people breaking ranking quickly and threaten to move to Windows." The example of Gatekeeper is relevant to this statement and not to the original one. 

post #125 of 130
Originally Posted by d4NjvRzf View Post

The sentence “If Apple were to lock down Macs with the same protection scheme we'd have people breaking ranking quickly and threaten to move to Windows." refers to the specific set of restrictions on iOS.

 

‘Kay. That’s a given.

 
It does not say "If Apple were to make OS X more restrictive than before we'd have people breaking ranking quickly and threaten to move to Windows."

 

No, that’s exactly what it says. In making OS X as restrictive as iOS, it is inherently being made more restrictive than before. 

Gatekeeper is a step in that direction, as I said when this topic first came up. That you’ve ignored the part where I said that is interesting.

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post #126 of 130
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No, that’s exactly what it says. In making OS X as restrictive as iOS, it is inherently being made more restrictive than before. 

No that's not exactly what it says. "OS X is as restrictive as iOS" implies "OS X is more restrictive than before" but not the other way around. The second statement can be true without the first statement being true. The original post requires the first statement to be true for people to switch. Therefore your example of Gatekeeper does not contradict that statement.


Edited by d4NjvRzf - 12/29/13 at 10:47am
post #127 of 130
Originally Posted by d4NjvRzf View Post
No that's not exactly what it says. "OS X is as restrictive as iOS" implies "OS X is more restrictive than before" but not the other way around. The second statement can be true without the first statement being true. The original post requires the first statement to be true for people to switch. Therefore your example of Gatekeeper does not contradict that statement.

 

Talk about insanity.

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post #128 of 130
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Talk about insanity.

Consider the statement "If the speed limit on roads were reduced to 15 mph to reduce the number of fatal collisions, people would quit driving cars and start riding bikes instead." The next day the speed limit is adjusted from 45 mph to 35 mph, and people are still driving a month later. Does this at all contradict the statement?


Edited by d4NjvRzf - 12/29/13 at 12:22pm
post #129 of 130
Originally Posted by d4NjvRzf View Post
Consider the statement


Consider that the sentence in this case hasn’t been completed yet.

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post #130 of 130

I think that comparing OSX and iOS is silly to begin with since, to me anyways, they seem to be functionally two different paradigms.  I don't expect my iMac, my iPhone, my iPad, my Apple TV to all work in the same way.  They're different.  They're designed to be different.  Thus I expect them to work differently.

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