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I'll be looking to buy my third Audi in a row in two years. No Apple integration... then no more Audis for me!!

 

I don't think you have anything to worry about.  It sounds like the 'stand alone' functionality of the system will work in and of itself and be based off Android.  I think the chances of it not being iPhone compatible and integrated is near zero.  

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I truly doubt the Android solution will work with 60% of those polled.

I think his point is that if Audi uses Android as the OS for the in-dash console that iOS, Android, WinPh, Symbian, et al. could still connect to it since it's just being used as an OS that Audi can manipulate in any way they see fit. This wouldn't be unlike how Chromecast, which is Android at its heart, has an iOS app in the App Store right now.

Now if Audi only partners with Google for allowing Android devices to connect to their vehicles in a more significant manner the way then then I agree they are losing potential customers, but that it's still the same if they only partnered with Apple for iOS-based devices.

I can't express how much I wish there was a universal, open system in place, like VNC, because we shouldn't ever have to make a car buying decision based on the phone we use or vice versa. It's like if we couldn't buy an LG TV if we had a Sony Blu-ray player, or couldn't buy JBL speakers if we had a Bang & Olufsen stereo.

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post #83 of 135
I suspect current and prospective Audi buyers will be giving Audi an earful over this.

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Isn't Eddie Cue on the board of Porsche?

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http://blog.vdcresearch.com/embedded_sw/2013/10/android-to-transform-medical-device-market.html
http://www.mentor.com/embedded-software/multimedia/using-android-in-automotive-systems-with-linux-containers
http://hsc.com/services/product-engineering-services/embedded-android/telematics
http://www.tgdaily.com/hardware-features/49743-report-gm-eyes-android-for-in-vehicle-telematics

Further, 16% of embedded engineers surveyed by UBM say they are already using Android as their OS of choice.
http://images.content.ubmtechelectronics.com/Web/UBMTechElectronics/%7Ba7a91f0e-87c0-4a6d-b861-d4147707f831%7D_2013EmbeddedMarketStudyb.pdf

Will it become commonplace to see Android used in embedded systems? I don't know. I do know that there's interest in Android for that market. You apparently would not be one of those with any interest.

You are right that I'm not an engineer myself so no need in wasting time failing your engineering knowledge test. Congrats to you tho on landing what's probably a pretty good paying job in an interesting and quickly changing field. I mean that sincerely.

 

Did you read through those links at all? They're not talking about Android as the OS in your car - they're talking about running Android ON TOP OF a Linux kernel inside of a "container". This way an Android application could run, but if it becomes unstable it can't bring down the device that's running it (your infotainment system).

 

Android as itself is simply not reliable for use as the primary OS in your car. iOS is also incapable of being your primary OS. Neither of them are robust enough or have the real-time capabilities (though iOS would be better in the real-time area).

 

As to the medical link you provided, they're talking about mobile health and attaching health monitors to Android devices (or building them in) to monitor things like blood sugar or heart rate. This is not mission critical stuff. The types of medical devices QNX (for example) is used in include things that affect life or death (like vital sign monitors in emergency rooms or for patients in critical condition). QNX has numerous certifications that make it suitable for these types of applications. Android doesn't. iOS doesn't. Windows doesn't either (including embedded Windows).

 

As to Android showing up on top in many embedded lists, well there's an easy explanation for that. Smartphones are considered embedded devices. Outside of smartphones Android is way behind as an embedded OS.

 

Although it's interesting to read some wild predictions from the Linux gurus (some saying by 2020 Linux will completely take over automotive and push QNX and MS to the side). Interesting how they can see so many years into the future. Also interesting to assume that QNX and MS (who currently have most of the market) are simply going to sit around and do nothing to improve their products while watching Linux get better. For example, QNX added the ability to run Android apps on QNX just this summer.

 

 

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If they went with an iOS in the Car solution then 40% of their buyers couldn't use it, restricted to Apple devices. Is that correct? I think the expectation would be that an Android-based one would work with nearly all smart-device OS's and not just Android thus being more usable to a broader range of Audi buyers. I doubt anyone would even realize it's Android unless someone told them so.

 

No. iOS in the car isn't an OS that replaces the OEM one used in their infotainment unit. It's just a method to make it easy to connect an iOS device to your car to get enhanced functionality. An automotive manufacturer could have both iOS In The Car and Android In The Car (for lack of a better term) at the same time. Just like I can connect iOS devices or Android devices to my PC there's no reason I can't connect both to my car.

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Ha ha. Agree, a luxury car maker whose customer demographic are iPhone, not Android, users ties their product with the race-to-the-bottom, we'll-sell-your-personal-info mobile OS. This is a worse marketing decision than Ford's tie up with Microsoft.

This would/should be a HUGE concern if one had an Android device in his car and it had access to any of the vehicles onboard systems. Considering that Google seems to be in a neck & neck race with FaceBook and the NSA for the title of Data Mining World Champion, I can imagine getting a cancellation letter in the mail from my insurance company stating, "It has come to our attention that on your recent trip to Atlanta, you exceeded a speed of 90mph on six occasions. Goodbye forever!" Progressive Insurance is already offering discounts to suckers who willingly putting these nanny snoopers on their cars. I doubt Google/Android would even bother with getting permission - they don't with anything else.

If my company feels that Android is so unsecure that the CIO will not allow that OS on our network, then why in the world would I want such an OS in my car?! Especially considering a severe medical condition I have, known as LeadFootitis.

Surprised they don't already do it with iPhone geotracking.
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post #87 of 135
Android makes sense for Audi. Most android users aren't able to upgrade their OS, so expectations for upgrades will be low. Most android devices are low power low capacity, so Audi can save money there. Also Audi can brand it's own fork of Android and start selling AudiPlay devices. And by promoting Android Audi will open up new markets for instance among the aspirational Walmart crowd. Maybe Walmart will start selling Audis like loss leader Avril Lavigne CD's. Win-win.
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I agree, but I think that the problem is the customization. Android allows any level of customization, even a complete fork of the codebase with a dedicated app store (Amazon-like).

 

Correct. This system will likely work with all phone operating systems. Android OS is powering many car manufacturers infotainment systems already. It's Linux base is extremely stable. In fact, some of the best reviewed infotainment systems are actually skinned android. I'm not entirely sure why this is big news.

Apple's approach makes zero sense. They are immediately removing 80% of the population from considering a car powered by iOS in the car because it requires a firm commitment to iPhone for a decade or longer. Why would a car manufacturer sign up for that?

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Audi is THE car company that most resembles apple, and in so many ways these two companies share affinity through design, quality, materials, aesthetics, and performance by need not brute force.
I hope the partnership with google is more about having an open standard for VW , but not excluding apple technologies, rather an integrative approach.
If the case should be that one would be tied to a google interface and only could use google i can say as an avid Apple and Audi user that i will move away from Audi, and i believe i represent the first mover / early adopter tier that constitute the core of a brand like Audi , a sort of combined idealist , ambassador of design the person that is influenced by aesthetics and design .
My hope is that this coalition is actually more about VW not wanting to be locked in to one manufacturer, and will result in Apple creating an an even more strategic relationship with the VW group as VW with its co ownership of Porsche, /Audi, and VW represents the pinnacle in design-led car Brands and i strongly believe that their platforms centric approach is nearly identical to Apples way of thinking about design.
These two companies belong together and i believe they will find a way to develop a greet interface.
Looking at how apple maps currently work i have to give Google the edge, as apple maps continue to have issues, but that could be easily resolved if apple decided to throw some of its many billions towards a more technology centric vision and strengthening their technology BEHIND the interface..Apple needs to step up on all the technologies that actually ins stuff, not only front end and device design.
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"I won't buy if it's Android" "It will never get updates"

 

Wow! Get of your high horse and come back down to reality. This will be a base that all phones will be able to use. You really think they would just allow just one mobile OS to work? You're wrong.

 

Plus, what you consider as the best OS is just an opinion, not fact. Just because iOS works for you does not mean it works for everyone else. Your iPhone is no better than what I use. You do realize that there are premium Android phones out there that are A. Just as good if not better than your iPhone B. cost just as much if not more than your iPhone.

 

I can guarantee you that there is nothing on your almighty iPhone that does more or better than what I use if we take the same common things that we both do.  Not one.

 

Also, what makes you think that Audi should only have iOS. Now that's not good for me and others like me. I will never buy a Apple product, not that there is anything wrong or bad about what they make, it's just doesn't work for me.

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Some of you on here are a bunch of spoiled brats.

"I won't buy if it's Android" "It will never get updates"

Wow! Get of your high horse and come back down to reality. This will be a base that all phones will be able to use. You really think they would just allow just one mobile OS to work? You're wrong.

Plus, what you consider as the best OS is just an opinion, not fact. Just because iOS works for you does not mean it works for everyone else. Your iPhone is no better than what I use. You spoiled brats do realize that there are premium Android phones out there that are A. Just as good if not better than your iPhone B. cost just as much if not more than your iPhone.

I can guarantee you that there is nothing on your almighty iPhone that does more or better than what I use if we take the same common things that we both do.  Not one.

Also, what makes you think that Audi should only have iOS. Now that's not good for me and others like me. I will never buy a Apple product, not that there is anything wrong or bad about what they make, it's just doesn't work for me.

Then what the hell are you doing on an Apple enthusiasts site? Dreaming about owning Apple stuff? Casting aspersions?

Please leave.

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Only makes sense. Premium car buyers buy premium products, not Android.

 

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Then what the hell are you doing on an Apple enthusiasts site? Dreaming about owning Apple stuff? Casting aspersions?

Please leave.

See, this is what I am talking about. The world does not revolve around you and your iPhone. The tide is changing and Apple is not as dominate as it once was. I only buy premium things as they usually work well and that goes for top tier phones of all OS's. I drive a premium car and don't buy Apple so your statement is false.

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See, this is what I am talking about. The world does not revolve around you and your iPhone. The tide is changing and Apple is not as dominate as it once was. I only buy premium things as they usually work well and that goes for top tier phones of all OS's. I drive a premium car and don't buy Apple so your statement is false.

How much is Samsung paying you? Whatever it is, it's too much.

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How much is Samsung paying you? Whatever it is, it's too much.

 

So since I disagree with you, you resort to slinging mud? And people wounder why some Apple people have a elitists stigma. 

 

It's has nothing to do with Samsung. This has to do with a car manufacture doing what they can to support all mobile OS's. 

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So since I disagree with you, you resort to slinging mud? And people wounder why some Apple people have a elitists stigma. 

It's has nothing to do with Samsung. This has to do with a car manufacture doing what they can to support all mobile OS's. 

Since you claim to drive a luxury vehicle, I believe you are obligated to provide evidence.

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Since you claim to drive a luxury vehicle, I believe you are obligated to provide evidence.

Many others on this same thread have made the same claims or they were going to buy an Audi. You never asked them, why should you ask me only and why don't you as well? I'm not here for a pissing match or who has the biggest wanker. I'm stating that Audi will make this work with all mobile OS's as that's the logical thing to do to cover everyone buying their product. 

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Many others on this same thread have made the same claims or they were going to buy an Audi. You never asked them, why should you ask me only and why don't you as well? I'm not here for a pissing match or who has the biggest wanker. I'm stating that Audi will make this work with all mobile OS's as that's the logical thing to do to cover everyone buying their product. 

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Many others on this same thread have made the same claims or they were going to buy an Audi. You never asked them, why should you ask me only and why don't you as well? I'm not here for a pissing match or who has the biggest wanker. I'm stating that Audi will make this work with all mobile OS's as that's the logical thing to do to cover everyone buying their product. 

 

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Since you claim to drive a luxury vehicle, I believe you are obligated to provide evidence.

 

More anecdotes, but my cousin drives a X5 and has an M5 for his weekend car.  He uses a Note 3 and before that a Galaxy Nexus.

post #99 of 135
I have a 2010 s4 and i have an iphone 5s, a new car is always kind of on my mind, or what will be available in the next year or 2 . To me it would be a step backwards for audi to go with android. Looking at the list though it seems more kid cars will have access to apple integration then grown up cars. I don't want a civic. Maybe a land rover for my next car, but I don't see them on the list.
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Cell phones are hardware-tuned to frequency bands that go in and out of fashion every few years. There is little purpose creating a phone that lasts more than 5 years. A car is quite different.

Apple maintains their devices for some years and then there's a very sudden point at which they are permanently end-of-life. Apple traditionally does not release the technical documents needed for a 3rd party to take over support. It's not just software, but the many custom chips that can never be replicated. The inner workings of Android hardware and software is more accessible so Audi (or customers) could have a 3rd party continue legacy support indefinitely after Google's attention span wanders elsewhere.

I have an Audi and an Android device. Lack of expandable storage and an accessible file system absolutely ruled out an iPhone for me. Having used both, I don't see any point in being an Apple or Android fanatic. They both have comparable levels of benefits and faults, but in different areas.
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Careful, you're having a discussion with some very closed minds.  Their world doesn't get more black and white, you're either with Apple or you're against Apple.  There is NO middle ground when dealing with these types of users.  Don't get me wrong, there are some users here that are capable of having a meaningful discussion, but there are others that are not worth your time.

Baloney. Apple got where they are by doing the hard work. Android is a work of theft by coattail riders. Audi is a premium product and I'd expect nothing less than top notch iOS integration with the combined efforts of Apple and Audi, which is why it is so disappointing to see this (presumably accurate, but one never knows here) news.
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Careful, you're having a discussion with some very closed minds.  Their world doesn't get more black and white, you're either with Apple or you're against Apple.  There is NO middle ground when dealing with these types of users.  Don't get me wrong, there are some users here that are capable of having a meaningful discussion, but there are others that are not worth your time.

Yes, I hear you and thanks. I've dealt with this type of behavior many times before. I will never understand how people can't think that other things might work best for other people.

 

I buy every single top tier phone that comes out from every OEM including Apple so that I know for a fact what that phone can or can not do. I buy phones that best suit my needs for the time I need it. Right now Apple is not it. Ask me that about 3-4 years ago it would have been a different story.

 

Apple is a great company, but they are not the ONLY company. For some they are the BEST, for others they can't fit the needs of the consumer such as me.  I can have a valid conversation about mobile phones of any brand for any reason and as long as you're willing to converse. No matter if you agree with me or not. Just know that not everyone has to think your way.

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Yes, I hear you and thanks. I've dealt with this type of behavior many times before. I will never understand how people can't think that other things might work best for other people.

I buy every single top tier phone that comes out from every OEM including Apple so that I know for a fact what that phone can or can not do. I buy phones that best suit my needs for the time I need it. Right now Apple is not it. Ask me that about 3-4 years ago it would have been a different story.

Apple is a great company, but they are not the ONLY company. For some they are the BEST, for others they can't fit the needs of the consumer such as me.  I can have a valid conversation about mobile phones of any brand for any reason and as long as you're willing to converse. No matter if you agree with me or not. Just know that not everyone has to think your way.

I, for one, don't believe a single thing you're writing.

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Baloney. Apple got where they are by doing the hard work. Android is a work of theft by coattail riders. Audi is a premium product and I'd expect nothing less than top notch iOS integration with the combined efforts of Apple and Audi, which is why it is so disappointing to see this (hopefully accurate, but one never knows here) news.

But see, iOS integration might work for YOU, but it won't work for EVERYONE that buys an Audi. You're very delusional if you think that people who buy BMW, Mercedes, or Audi only buy iPhones. Like it or not, Apple's market share, even people in the high income bracket, is becoming less and less. Now I'm NOT saying doom and gloom for Apple, I'm saying they are not and will not be AS dominate as they used to be. 

 

Yes, you might think Apple is the one and only, but they are not. Trust me when I say that you will see big changes in the mobile industry for 2014 and not all of it will be Apple. Apple will do fine, I repeat, Apple will do fine. They just don't own the game any more. 

 

Now you seem like a decent person,  but you have to realize at some point there is a world outside of Apple.

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I, for one, don't believe a single thing you're writing.

Seriously!? What don't you believe? That I buy and use all top tier phones? I work in the mobile industry so, of course I buy them all. I also sell them when I'm finished. I don't know how that's so hard to believe as pretty much most of my friends do the same thing as we make a living because of it. 

 

I also said Apple is a great company but not the only company. So you don't believe that? Well, I hate to break it to you, but that's a fact on both parts. 

 

So I'm at a lost as to what you don't believe. Please explain in more detail my friend. 

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On a CAN bus what voltages could you expect to see on the High and Low lines when referenced to vehicle ground using a multimeter? Why do you see these voltages? What about voltages in reference to each other? What will happen to the data patterns on the CAN lines if a short occurs between the two CAN lines themselves? What is it about how the CAN lines are electrically connected that causes this pattern? Will module on the CAN bus still be able to communicate when this happens?

 

What is a CAN bus? I assume CAN is an acronym, yes? What's the full version, please?

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Originally Posted by SirLance99 View Post

Get of your high horse and come back down to reality.

 

Android isn’t part of my reality.

 

This will be a base that all phones will be able to use.

 

I don’t want Android as my base. I already have a base.

 

Plus, what you consider as the best OS is just an opinion, not fact.

 

Wrong.

 

Your iPhone is no better than what I use.

 

Of course not¡ You’re obviously correct¡

 

…premium Android phones…

 

Oxymoron.

 

…cost just as much if not more than your iPhone.

 

So it’s a real shame that they’re just Schmidt, huh, particularly since you’re paying so much for it.

 

I can guarantee you that there is nothing on your almighty iPhone that does more or better than what I use if we take the same common things that we both do.  Not one.

 

That’s sweet. Run along now.

 

Also, what makes you think that Audi should only have iOS.

 

Not sure anyone said that.

 

I will never buy a Apple product, not that there is anything wrong or bad about what they make, it's just doesn't work for me.

 

Then I speak for everyone when I say SHUT UP AND GO AWAY. How stupid do you have to be to come onto this website if this is what you believe?

 

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The tide is changing and Apple is not as dominate as it once was.

 

Enjoy that tide. They don’t generally take six years to come in, but I’m sure you’ll be able to ride the waves someday¡

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Your iPhone is no better than what I use. 

 

I've got 64bit, you don't, tough titties, pal

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I've got 64bit, you don't, tough titties, pal

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What is a CAN bus? I assume CAN is an acronym, yes? What's the full version, please?

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I've got 64bit, you don't, tough titties, pal

His screen is probably twice as large in area and his battery probably lasts twice as long on a charge as your iPhone. Different strokes for different folks.
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His screen is probably twice as large in area

 

Wait, we’re still talking about overly firm breasts, right?

 
…and his battery probably lasts twice as long on a charge as your iPhone.

 

Now I know we’re talking about fantasy.

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Android in Audi vehicles? What a major misstep and failure to understand their own customers. Android is the low-rent OS that mostly appears on crappy, cheap hardware. iOS appears only only the finest hardware. Clearly Audi products have more in common with Apple, and I am willing to bet their customers share very similar taste and economic advantages. Android belongs in Kia and Hyundai.

Totally agree. The wife got a new 2014 Lexus ES 350 this week and one of its nicest features is the complete iPhone integration including Siri. It was definitely one of the deciding factors in selecting the make of car she got.
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Some of you on here are a bunch of spoiled brats.

"I won't buy if it's Android" "It will never get updates"

Wow! Get of your high horse and come back down to reality. This will be a base that all phones will be able to use. You really think they would just allow just one mobile OS to work? You're wrong.

Plus, what you consider as the best OS is just an opinion, not fact. Just because iOS works for you does not mean it works for everyone else. Your iPhone is no better than what I use. You spoiled brats do realize that there are premium Android phones out there that are A. Just as good if not better than your iPhone B. cost just as much if not more than your iPhone.

I can guarantee you that there is nothing on your almighty iPhone that does more or better than what I use if we take the same common things that we both do.  Not one.

Also, what makes you think that Audi should only have iOS. Now that's not good for me and others like me. I will never buy a Apple product, not that there is anything wrong or bad about what they make, it's just doesn't work for me.

You kind of forget, or perhaps you simply don't realize, there isn't anything your chosen product has or does that would exist if not for Apple. As to the fact you will never buy 'a [sic] Apple product, perhaps you are on the wrong blog by mistake. Somehow though I doubt you joined for any other reason that to stir the proverbial.
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Also, what makes you think that Audi should only have iOS. Now that's not good for me and others like me. I will never buy a Apple product, not that there is anything wrong or bad about what they make, it's just doesn't work for me.

 

 

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I drive a premium car and don't buy Apple so your statement is false.

 

 

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I buy every single top tier phone that comes out from every OEM including Apple so that I know for a fact what that phone can or can not do.

 

 

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Seriously!? What don't you believe? That I buy and use all top tier phones? I work in the mobile industry so, of course I buy them all.

 

To be quite honest with you, at first glance I was tempted to post back that you seemed to be making an attempt to be objective. But then as I read more of your posts, you continually contradicted yourself about what you did and did not do.

 

Do I think that people should buy whatever product or brand of product that best meets their needs? Absolutely! That applies to motor vehicles (why buy a Porsche 911 as your only vehicle if what you really need is a pickup truck?!) as well as computers or phones. So I was going to, and still do, agree with you on that point.

 

As for the people who say that they were considering an Audi, but are now deciding against it because of this move toward Android, I have no idea who was really in the market for an Audi vs a Jaguar vs a Mercedes vs a Chevrolet Malibu - and neither do you. But I do know that if a vehicle's infotainment system is truly horrible, it most certainly can affect a buying decision. This has been the case with the Ford/Lincoln MyTouch system - it's not just bad, it's very bad. I've been purchasing Jaguars for the past 20+ years. But they're not the best (most reliable) daily drivers. My daily driver has been a Subaru WRX for a number of years. It's time for a new daily driver. I looked at the Lincoln MKZ AWD. A dealer called me about one and it really was a steal. I'm not a Lincoln person but I am a person who will take a deal if it's good enough. After testing the car and going through the controls and switchgear, I imagined myself in heavy traffic, committing numerous acts of violent road rage while trying to work with that wonky MyTouch system - so I passed. To his credit, Alan Mulally and his team realize that the deficient MyTouch system is affecting sales and consumer satisfaction and they're working on it. Too late for me though. Before I got the WRX, I looked at the Jaguar X-type and the Audi A4. The Subie seemed a better car at a much better price than either of them. And after looking at the Lincoln and the various offerings from Audi and Jaguar (although the Jag XF 3.0 AWD is nice), it appears that the upcoming Subaru WRX STI will probably win out. It's less luxurious, but more reliable and less expensive to repair... and probably the most fun car that one can buy for less than $50K. So long story short, yeah, most people will choose that which works best for them, brand aside - at least that's what they do if they're smart consumers.

 

But here's the deal: by claiming contradictory things about yourself, I have to admit, I don't see that you have even as much credibility as those who say that they're crossing Audi off their "next vehicle list". You surely knew that this was an Apple-centric site when you joined, correct? Yet, you claim, in one breath, that you don't and won't buy Apple products. Then, in the next breath, you claim that you work in the industry and you have bought Apple products and every other brand of mobile product. That makes no sense and indicates that you're not an entirely truthful person. The objective data, that you have provided, leads me to conclude that you are basically just trolling. While somewhat subtle at first, that does seem to be what you're doing. No offense intended, but I believe in identifying a spade as a spade. I'm not buying an Audi anyway, but having never owned one, it would be disingenuous for me to go to an Audi forum and (slyly) explain why I will never buy one, why Jags/Mercedes/BMWs/whatever are better/just as good... and say that I have owned Audis and know all about them.

 

I think that the younger folks call what you did a FAIL these days. Amirite or amirite? ;)

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Wait, we’re still talking about overly firm breasts, right?

 

Now I know we’re talking about fantasy.

 

Wait... what?! Overly firm breasteses and fantasies?! Why did I not get a PM so I could take part in this conversation???!!!

 

I never get to have any fun on here! :devil:

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You sound like a Fox News watcher talking about libruhls.


When you don’t have a reply, don’t spew political crap.

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We are driving an Audi now and we are planning to buy a new one in 2014 ---- BUT - there is NO Way I will switch to a stupid Droid phone to run the dashboard in my new car !!!

So, tomorrow, my wife and I will visit the local BMW dealer. We live where a lot of snow and ice create problems - and the Audi Quattro all-wheel drive has been fantastic to use - but BMW now has all wheel drive as well.

We have a pair of iPhone 5S phones, an iPad Air - and I have 8 Macs in my studio. I don't do Droids ...

Really, Really dumb move, Audi .....
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We are driving an Audi now and we are planning to buy a new one in 2014 ---- BUT - there is NO Way I will switch to a stupid Droid phone to run the dashboard in my new car !!!

So, tomorrow, my wife and I will visit the local BMW dealer. We live where a lot of snow and ice create problems - and the Audi Quattro all-wheel drive has been fantastic to use - but BMW now has all wheel drive as well.

We have a pair of iPhone 5S phones, an iPad Air - and I have 8 Macs in my studio. I don't do Droids ...

Really, Really dumb move, Audi .....

I believe the original report was going to be Audi making some sort of formal announcement at CES, which is next week.

I'd think the use of Android isn't about getting exclusive connectivity to Android-based devices but rather using it as their in-dash touchscreen system. If the later itmakes a lot of sense over creating your own from scratch and would allow Android, iOS and any other device to connect.

At the very least I'd hold off before making any decisions as how Android is to be utilized is so uncertain it's fit squarely in the category of rumour.

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