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Rumor: Apple's unannounced 'iWatch' faces manufacturing issues, much like Qualcomm's Toq

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Though it has yet to be announced and there are no signs of an impending product launch, Apple's so-called "iWatch" is reportedly facing poor yield rates of less than 50 percent in trial manufacturing, if the latest rumors are to be believed.

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AppleInsider was first to discover an Apple patent filing describing a watch design with flexible display.


Alleged details on Apple's rumored wrist-worn accessory were reported on Thursday by DigiTimes, a Taiwanese tech industry publication notorious for being the source of questionable rumors regarding Apple. Its latest scoop, crediting its usual supply chain sources, claims that Apple's "iWatch" is seeing poor yield rates stemming from "difficulties applying surface treatments on their metal injection molded (MIM) chassis."

"The MIM process is often used in the mass production of high-precision products with complicated industrial designs as it allows components to feature special shapes, but still maintain rigidness," the report noted.

The so-called "iWatch" was singled out alongside Qualcomm's just-released Toq smart watch --?another device allegedly plagued by poor yield rates. Qualcomm's wearable products are also said to be facing setbacks due to MIM components related to the external design.

iWatch
Artist's rendition of purported Apple smartwatch. | Source: Yrving Torrealba


Qualcomm's Toq enters an emerging market of wearable devices that is poised to explode in 2014 -- if not in sales, at least in terms of available options. In addition to Samsung's recently launched Galaxy Gear smart watch, new wearable products are on the way from Archos, while similar devices are rumored to be in the works by Google, Nokia and even Microsoft.

Industry heavyweights are entering the wearable space as startups like Pebble have already generated considerable buzz for their own wrist accessories. Many such devices are compatible with Apple's iPhone, allowing users to perform functions such as viewing notifications and controlling music on Apple's handset.

As for Apple's "iWatch," it's been claimed the rumored device will focus on biometrics, offering users feedback on health and activity by acting as a pedometer, heart rate monitor and possibly more. Apple itself has helped to fuel speculation regarding the device by company seeking ownership of the "iWatch" name in a number of countries, filing a number of related patent applications, and making a number of key hires related to fitness, wearable devices and fashion.
post #2 of 34
Sounds more like a manufactured issue to me...

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post #3 of 34
Of course it is.

Next, iwatch program is delayed/cancelled.
post #4 of 34
Lol,
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Sounds more like a manufactured issue to me...

Lol, that's better than the headline and the story 1smile.gif...,,and a great deal more plausible ;p
post #5 of 34
What ever happened to that analyst's declaration of substantial shortfall of iPad mini with Retina production for the holiday's?

Does everybody remember that freakout 8 weeks ago?

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post #6 of 34
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Though it has yet to be announced and there are no signs of an impending product launch... reportedly facing poor yield rates of less than 50 percent in trial manufacturing

 

Isn't it better to identify and sort out the bugs in manufacturing BEFORE you announce and start taking pre-orders for a product, rather than have angry buyers waiting for deliveries of a questionable device?  Of course it is.

 

But this is Apple.  Analysts will find a way to criticize and spread FUD for them doing the RIGHT thing.  Every time.

 

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Artist's rendition of purported Apple smartwatch. | Source: Yrving Torrealba

 

i.e., Artist's fantasy.

post #7 of 34
AI: "DigiTimes, a Taiwanese tech industry publication notorious for being the source of questionable rumors regarding Apple."

I like AppleInsider, but doesn't this "story" make you a promoter of questionable rumors regarding Apple?
post #8 of 34
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AI: "DigiTimes, a Taiwanese tech industry publication notorious for being the source of questionable rumors regarding Apple."

I like AppleInsider, but doesn't this "story" make you a promoter of questionable rumors regarding Apple?

 

It's out there, in a well-known, though somewhat worthless publication, and as a rumor about a potentially significant future Apple, AI would be remiss not to pass it on. The article does not endorse the rumor.

post #9 of 34

If, for sake of argument, we accept this as believable, who other than Tim Cook would you want at the helm of a company tasked with dealing with a supply-line issue?

If Apple is having this problem, then so is everyone else, and Cook is the guy to beat the field.

post #10 of 34

I call BS. If these people had enough access to know about production delays, they'd be able to tell us about the iWatch. Since they can't, they don't.

post #11 of 34

Apple also had iPad mini w retina production issues :lol: 

 

WS manipulation and rumors at its best!

 

Future Headline ----> "Supply issues grows bigger as China Mobile Joins Apple"

post #12 of 34

If it has full "health/training" functions, i.e., HRM, GPS, running, etc., I'm in! :)

post #13 of 34
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What ever happened to that analyst's declaration of substantial shortfall of iPad mini with Retina production for the holiday's?

Does everybody remember that freakout 8 weeks ago?

Past rumors can't manipulate stock prices, so no.

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post #14 of 34

Coincidentally, Digitimes' accuracy is below 50%, too.

post #15 of 34
Nice stock manipulation. An unannounced, most likely never-to-be made product is experiencing yield issues.

And yet, AAPL, -7.

Brilliant.

I also heard unicorns are having trouble pushing rainbows out of their asses due to the cold in the northeast.
post #16 of 34
Nope.

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post #17 of 34

Same thing every time Apple comes out or plans on coming out with something.  When you design (r)evolutionary products, specialized manufacturing needs to be developed.  This is a non-story.

post #18 of 34
Just curious if anyone has ever suggested if the iwatch could be an updated Apple TV? If so, it'd be a good laugh at those companies racing to the market with an actual watch.
post #19 of 34
A rumor about alleged issues for a not announced and possibly nonexistent product from a source with a proven track record of pulling things out of thin air.

Yeah I'm going to get worked up about this.

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post #20 of 34

I think it is time for unfounded iTV rumors again. An inside source told me that the iTV was delayed as a result of 4K display manufacturing issues.

post #21 of 34

Manufactured issue!

 

That is so perfect!  They are manufacturing issues!  That is their job really, to manufacture imaginary problems where none exist.  Negativity gets clicks!

 

Analysts are about as useful, reliable, and relevant as movie critics.

 

I wish someone ELSE (not me!) would do the work of charting of all these rumors and predictions, to make it immediately and obviously clear just how wildly wrong must of this stuff is.

post #22 of 34

Waiting for professional analysts to downgrade Apple stock in real life based on information that is not real. 

post #23 of 34
Oh no! The iwatch is doomed!!!! Give me a break!
post #24 of 34

It is pretty clear at this point that no one cares or pays any attention to "manufacturing issues" articles. They are all link bait BS.

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I think it is time for unfounded iTV rumors again. An inside source told me that the iTV was delayed as a result of 4K display manufacturing issues.

I heard about that! I believe that info was reported.

post #26 of 34
50% yield is pretty good anyway.
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post #27 of 34
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It's out there, in a well-known, though somewhat worthless publication, and as a rumor about a potentially significant future Apple, AI would be remiss not to pass it on. The article does not endorse the rumor.
Nope.

They are remiss, if not complicit, for passing along bad information from a single source. DigiTimes is a lie factory.

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post #28 of 34

They should make it in the US. Americans have a genius for manufacture and they could do it. And it should be a ring not a watch.

post #29 of 34
May be Apple should ask to Samsung, they have been doing a very good job with the A7 chip.

Why not?
post #30 of 34

Does not look very comfortable to wear.

post #31 of 34
Apple must be really annoyed. They seem to have no problem manufacturing displays for everything else, in countless sizes and DPIs, but as soon as they design something new with a screen inbetween the specs of other screens they make, they have manufacturer issues or yield issues.

I mean, c'mon, does anyone really believe this?
post #32 of 34
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Apple must be really annoyed. They seem to have no problem manufacturing displays for everything else, in countless sizes and DPIs, but as soon as they design something new with a screen inbetween the specs of other screens they make, they have manufacturer issues or yield issues.

I mean, c'mon, does anyone really believe this?

It depends on what they are trying to achieve. Apple has a history of venturing into new areas by mass producing techniques that have never been used in quite that way before. It might not be about the resolution but about making the display (as well as backlight, battery and logic board) curved. It could also be about mass producing sapphire crystal to go over the displays instead of GG. This might be too costly, not a high enough yield, not strong enough for how thin they need to make it and/or too difficult for the shape they need it to be made. There are just so many possibilities but the one thing Apple has proven fairly reliable is not introducing HW until it's ready (which some glaring exceptions).

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post #33 of 34
Ian from Taiwan and digitimes makes up stories. They have no sources other than the editors imagination. It's been called the
post #34 of 34
Remember how Apple didn't really sell 9 million iPhone5s and 5cs because about 4 million was supposedly channel fill. I am willing to bet next September the analyst will be treating the 9 mil as fact and apple must sell 10m or more to keep from dropping 10%. I will def sell my shares before then. Oddly enough there is no mention of the supposedly iphone killer galaxy s4 which was a bust after 3 months. This has become a circus with all of the rumors and speculation.
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