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Do you think I could get a promo so I could test out your app because I have SnappyCam and I'd like to compare 1smile.gif

Yes. Absolutely. PM Sent.

To the others... If I was on here trying to sell more copies of Fast Camera, why would I be giving away free promo codes to all that have asked so far? Check our position on the top grossing charts. We are doing just fine. I only want to have a discussion on the facts. SnappyCam's camera view "counter" is misleading because it doesn't indicate how many images are actually being stored. Go to the review screen and divide the number actually saved by the time to get a true frames/sec measurement.
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Bemused at i4software's responses.

I quite like his responses and appreciate he took the time to address the replies.

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Burst Mode exists in the 4S also. It may not be as fast as the 5S, but when i hold down the volume/shutter button it continues to take a ton of photos in fairly quick succession.

Curious how many 8MP photos you are averaging on the 4S. Use a stopwatch timer for 20 seconds and then divide.

Also, I will give you a free promo code for Fast Camera plus $50 it you can demonstrate that any other app can capture and save more 8MP images in 20 seconds than Fast Camera. This offer is only for you "hewsthat"
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I think you are referring to video capture not 8MP full resolution photo capture. How many 8MP images (3,264 x 2,448) are you able to capture in 20 seconds on your 5S? Use a stopwatch timer and open one of the images to make sure it is that large. Fast Camera can do 480 in 20 seconds. SnappyCam's counter shows more but over half of the images are missing when you go to the review screen.

i4software variously claims 800 pictures per minute, 1200 picture per minute or 1,440 pictures per minute (according to iTunes and posts here).

All of the so-called reviews of the product didn't really review the product at all, instead reading like a corporate product promotion.

Aside from two or three video editing apps Fast Camera is apparently an impressive departure in development for a company known for producing flashlight apps, mirror apps and magnifying glass apps.
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i4software variously claims 800 pictures per minute, 1200 picture per minute or 1,440 pictures per minute (according to iTunes and posts here).

All of the so-called reviews of the product didn't really review the product at all, instead reading like a corporate product promotion.

Aside from two or three video editing apps Fast Camera is apparently an impressive departure in development for a company known for producing flashlight apps, mirror apps and magnifying glass apps.

Actually, our Vizzywig Video Editor App is widely considered the best mobile video editing app on any platform. Search YouTube for the GeekBeat TV coverage of Vizzywig. It won Best of Show at Macworld in 2012. It sells very well at a price point of $29.99 in a sea of free competitors.

Our Flashlight app is the #1 top grossing paid UTILITY app of all time with over 1.5 million sold at $0.99. It is still the top paid (ad-free) Flashlight app.

"Video Filters" and "Crop Your Videos" are the most capable apps in their niches.

Fast Camera has 7 million users and is currently in the top 25 top grossing photo apps in the U.S and many other countries worldwide ahead of Adobe Photoshop Express AND iPhoto.

The counts per minute depend upon device model, iOS version and whether it is front or rear camera.
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I quite like his responses and appreciate he took the time to address the replies.

Thanks. Email us for a free promo code. Just reference this thread and my post.
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Thanks. Email us for a free promo code. Just reference this thread and my post.

I appreciate it but I am not one to use my camera so it would be a waste on me.

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Gatorguy wrote, "Seems pretty upfront and honest, tho I still wouldn't allow his posts if I was moderating."

If it was just the one-off post that we tend to see with spam I'd agree, but his comments are candid, which includes creating an account that didn't hide the developer association.

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Would you suggest allowing company representatives to freely comment on competitors products, only removing or banning them at some later time if found to be less than honest? That's a really slippery hill Soli. Even in this case the poster wasn't initially as upfront about his association as he should have been IMO. How would you go about deciding which ones should be allowed to proceed and which ones shouldn't? Which ones will turn out to be honest and which ones not?

I completely agree that the rep seems to be saying all the right things (BTW is he a sales rep, company owner, someone else?) but I believe the forum rules have something to say about companies using the site for promotional activities.
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I think you are referring to video capture not 8MP full resolution photo capture. How many 8MP images (3,264 x 2,448) are you able to capture in 20 seconds on your 5S? Use a stopwatch timer and open one of the images to make sure it is that large. Fast Camera can do 480 in 20 seconds. SnappyCam's counter shows more but over half of the images are missing when you go to the review screen.

30 fps 8MP photos by holding down the shutter button ('burst mode' as advertised by Apple), referring to the claim in the article that: "Apple has reportedly acquired app developer SnappyLabs, the one-man company that created SnappyCam, a popular app that allowed users to take full-resolution pictures at 20 to 30 frames per second.".
So no improvement, hence my question.
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Would you suggest allowing company representatives to freely comment on competitors products, only removing or banning them at some later time if found to be less than honest? That's a really slippery hill Soli.

I agree that it could get abused quite easily but I see no harm in AI creating a blanket rule only after there is a lowered ratio in the coefficient of friction upon a given graduated plane. 1tongue.gif

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This is exactly what Apple needs to be doing now. Buy up the most innovative small companies that are making the best quality apps and either continue to sell them as stand alone apps or integrate their functions into the core of iOS.

Agreed, they got the technology and the talent.

 

It may be a double win because it looks as though the Android version of the app has also been withdrawn. Perhaps Apple want to build on what they've done with the 5S and make really fast burst photography an iOS discriminator (or at least a strength)?

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Would you suggest allowing company representatives to freely comment on competitors products, only removing or banning them at some later time if found to be less than honest? That's a really slippery hill Soli. Even in this case the poster wasn't initially as upfront about his association as he should have been IMO. How would you go about deciding which ones should be allowed to proceed and which ones shouldn't? Which ones will turn out to be honest and which ones not?

I completely agree that the rep seems to be saying all the right things (BTW is he a sales rep, company owner, someone else?) but I believe the forum rules have something to say about companies using the site for promotional activities.

I think that's the benefit of having real humans moderating: I see the risk you're concerned about but, in this case, I found the messages quite interesting and candid. He's certainly set himself up for a fall if they're not truthful.

 

I do hope that someone with the promo code is able to report back with some experimental data.

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I suspect that it's more than fine-tuning with existing ideas, that there's a conceptual breakthrough in there. Otherwise, yes, Apple would and could simply do the same.

For comparison, the maths underlying WiFi was developed by scientists for radioastronomy. "The Australian radio-astronomer John O'Sullivan developed a key patent used in Wi-Fi as a by-product in a CSIRO research project, "a failed experiment to detect exploding mini black holes the size of an atomic particle"." (WP) The rest is lateral thinking.

 

This is something people in this country who profess free market capitalism is real that don't seem to grasp [Same folks who say the guberment can't create jobs], when it comes to technology advancing.

 

Most advances come from Academic/Federal/Government joint ventures with 99% of the funding coming from the Central Government.

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30 fps 8MP photos by holding down the shutter button ('burst mode' as advertised by Apple), referring to the claim in the article that: "Apple has reportedly acquired app developer SnappyLabs, the one-man company that created SnappyCam, a popular app that allowed users to take full-resolution pictures at 20 to 30 frames per second.".
So no improvement, hence my question.

Can you post the link where you read that Apple claims to be able to capture a sustained 30 highest res (8MP) photos per second in burst mode with the shutter button? Do you have access to a 5S?

I believe the official Apple 5S camera spec is 10fps.

However, SnappyCam never actually was able to achieve 20-30 8MP frames per second for 10 seconds. The counter on the camera view would show that frame rate but when you go to review, over half of the images are gone forever presumably lost or dropped due to memory constraints.
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30 fps 8MP photos by holding down the shutter button ('burst mode' as advertised by Apple), referring to the claim in the article that: "Apple has reportedly acquired app developer SnappyLabs, the one-man company that created SnappyCam, a popular app that allowed users to take full-resolution pictures at 20 to 30 frames per second.".
So no improvement, hence my question.

Burst mode is only 10 shots per second with a maximum of 999 shots per run which I believe is 1m:39s.

I wonder if the SnappyCam algorithm or the developer's talent can also be used to improve the number of frames for the slo motion camera. 120fps is alright but I'd really like to see slo mo increased many more times past that in the next couple iterations.

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Speed, images captured per second are just specs and numbers. What about the image quality? I mean, yay! App xyz can capture 100 frames a second! But the images all suck.

Anyway, we will probably never know why Apple bought SnappyLabs over another. Could actually be because it is a one man shop with only one app. They therefore don't need to pay more for extra baggage they don't need.
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Speed, images captured per second are just specs and numbers. What about the image quality? I mean, yay! App xyz can capture 100 frames a second! But the images all suck.

Anyway, we will probably never know why Apple bought SnappyLabs over another. Could actually be because it is a one man shop with only one app. They therefore don't need to pay more for extra baggage they don't need.

Exactly! Image quality is everything. The 8MP images saved from Fast Camera are better quality as well. All of my claims here can be verified by anyone with both apps. I'll send you a free promo code if you don't have Fast Camera.

All I ask is that the testing is conducted scientifically with a stopwatch and a controlled identical environment. Open both images in Photoshop, zoom in on detail areas and see for yourself.

The question isn't why Apple bought Snappy Labs but why Snappy Labs decided to sell.
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Listen, I mean, fair enough, perhaps your claims are true, perhaps there's more to it than meets the eye, I don't really care that much to be honest.

 

However, I believe we've heard your argument multiple times over now and I believe for good order's sake and as a sign of respect, it's about time to stop pissing on other developers now, that's just bad style.

 

Fair enough, you pointed out your software is supposedly so much more capable and let it go. There are a myriad of reasons for why they got acquired and I believe the endless amount of optimised assembly for ARM has something to do with it.

 

Back to my point: I'm not sure you're gaining a lot of kudos by keeping on spitting into someone else's soup. Let it go, it's a matter of respect and an unwritten rule within this developer community. You just don't do that. Imagine how all popular tech sites and app reviews looked like if all devs would comment on competing products. I mean seriously, by all metrics you posted, you're so successful, you shouldn't need this kind of mud slinging either way.

 

Give it a break. ;-)

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Sounds like someone is jealous ;)  Did you guys do the code in assembly?

Assembly programmers are more sought after than Obj-C, assembly is the filter that separates the best from the rest. 

Im sure Apple doesn't care about SnappyCam itself, but the talent behind it. Optimizing code in assembly is something valuable, and with the dwindeling expertice on that field, its not a big surprise Apple accuires that talent. 

 

Edit: I posted this a bit late, the guy before me has a great answer..

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Here's a feature request I made on the iPhone a while back:
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The following enhancement would significantly improve the utility of the iPhone camera.

Allow taking a rapid sequence of pictures such as a player kicking a soccer ball... maybe press-hold the camera button with minimal delay between take/save--take/save--take/save, etc.

Sigh… I didn't have the expertise to do anything about it.

Wow, talk about prior art¡

Lol. Good thinking of you, 'back in the day'.

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This is surprising. I would expect Apple to be knowledgable enough to create the same tech on their own. Something doesn't click. Great news for Mr. Papandriopoulos though. (yes, that was a copy/paste action)

This is a common misconception when it comes to big businesses. They are just made up of many talented individuals. It seems that they have about 20,000 non-retail staff:

http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/09/apple-1000-engineers-chips/

This will be split between software engineers, hardware engineers, designers, marketing and so on. While someone within the portion of software engineers might well be capable of developing code to do this specific task, they clearly tried already and didn't manage to get it fast enough and this person has developed exactly the code they need.

It's much the same with Yahoo's purchase of Summly. Their developers probably could have come up with similar natural language processing algorithms but it's quicker to just buy something that exists and works already, especially when you are so flush with cash. A few million dollar buyout to a little guy is big money but to companies like Apple and Yahoo, it's a rounding error. Existing Apple staff might well have been able to develop FCP, Logic, Shake, iTunes, OS X but they didn't, they bought all of them.

They also get a lot of flack when they don't buy companies out like what happened with Dashboard and Sherlock.

All valid points. But I wouldn't want to compare OSX, FCP, Shake etc to a camera app. Still, I get what you're saying.

As for the # of SW/HW engineers at Apple, I believe the number to be around 8,000. There have been some articles on this, though never I this site AFAIK.
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120fps is alright but I'd really like to see slo mo increased many more times past that in the next couple iterations.

Amen to that. But realistically I don't think this will happen anytime soon. Just look at what a professional camera costs that can do over a thousand fps. Plus I believe there to be many factors dealing with such a vast amount of data, like, of who am I kidding, these factors you know already!

Perhaps they could 'speed up' the process of capturing a high fps by only recording the changes to each photo after the first fully saved one. They can then re-create the following shots by replacing the pixels that differ from the first shot. Kind of a 'the more the subject changes the slower the fps are going to be'.
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Wow, talk about prior art¡

Lol. Good thinking of you, 'back in the day'.

It's too bad what we imagine can't also be what we can make.
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Amen to that. But realistically I don't think this will happen anytime soon. Just look at what a professional camera costs that can do over a thousand fps. Plus I believe there to be many factors dealing with such a vast amount of data, like, of who am I kidding, these factors you know already!

1) It would be a lot more data per second but Apple could just reduce the time allowed for slow motion grabs. Plus I think next year we'll see the NAND capacity double for the current price point.

2) Apple has a pretty solid track record of taking something only available at a professional level and making it a commodity feature.

3) What is the 4MB of RAM doing on the A7 chip? Could that be for processing images for burt mode and/or the slow motion camera? The most complex iPhone 5S still image I have taken is only 2.9MB.
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Perhaps they could 'speed up' the process of capturing a high fps by only recording the changes to each photo after the first fully saved one. They can then re-create the following shots by replacing the pixels that differ from the first shot. Kind of a 'the more the subject changes the slower the fps are going to be'.

That's an interesting technique and perhaps patentable. If two images can be quickly compared and the differences show less than a certain percentage of difference start with a new image and/or it could section off an image into quadrants then do micro comparisons since only small portions of an image seem to have any real change when shot in rapid succession.

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Perhaps they could 'speed up' the process of capturing a high fps by only recording the changes to each photo after the first fully saved one..

That would be like P-Frames
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1. It's important to me to clarify the facts.
2. I'm honestly not jealous. Just passionate.
3. Tons of people on the forums have already emailed me for promo codes and I have sent them out. Those people seem pretty happy to me.
4. I don't believe writing assembly code is necessary unless the results prove it was worth the effort. I think that is relevant to the devs on here.
5. Fast Camera is not a competitor to Snappy Cam. Fast Camera is the de facto standard in burst photo apps with much higher revenue and user numbers. It's my obligation to comment on an article that suggests SnappyCam was the fastest or best.
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It's too bad what we imagine can't also be what we can make.

Oh, that's good line!
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1) It would be a lot more data per second but Apple could just reduce the time allowed for slow motion grabs. Plus I think next year we'll see the NAND capacity double for the current price point.

Wouldn't the data throughput be the bottleneck before storage capacity?
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3) What is the 4MB of RAM doing on the A7 chip? Could that be for processing images for burt mode and/or the slow motion camera?

Anand had this to say:
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The most visible change to Apple’s first ARMv8 core is a doubling of the L1 cache size: from 32KB/32KB (instruction/data) to 64KB/64KB. Along with this larger L1 cache comes an increase in access latency (from 2 clocks to 3 clocks from what I can tell), but the increase in hit rate likely makes up for the added latency. Such large L1 caches are quite common with AMD architectures, but unheard of in ultra mobile cores. A larger L1 cache will do a good job keeping the machine fed, implying a larger/more capable core.

...which doesn't address your question, and I don't know.
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The most complex iPhone 5S still image I have taken is only 2.9MB.

You're in sunny CA, right? Go stand under a tree and take a photo of the leaves on a sunny day. The large amount of detail will make the size of a photo larger. Like so:




Or a park:



The point being the grass here; not the nuns.
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That's an interesting technique and perhaps patentable. If two images can be quickly compared and the differences show less than a certain percentage of difference start with a new image and/or it could section off an image into quadrants then do micro comparisons since only small portions of an image seem to have any real change when shot in rapid succession.

I believe they do something similar with the 'reduce motion' in iMovie/FCP. Calculating which pixels (in the middle) overlap the next frame.
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That would be like P-Frames

I thought that was for the prediction of motion, not specifically seeing where changes have taken place between frames, but perhaps P-frames are the only reasonable way to save time and processing.

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Perhaps they could 'speed up' the process of capturing a high fps by only recording the changes to each photo after the first fully saved one..

That would be like P-Frames

Exactly! (or B- or I-frames, iForgot)


"A sequence of video frames, consisting of two keyframes (I), one forward-predicted frame (P) and one bi-directionally predicted frame (B)."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_compression_picture_types
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Wow, talk about prior art¡

Lol. Good thinking of you, 'back in the day'.

It's too bad what we imagine can't also be what we can make.


Something about reach and grasp!

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Amen to that. But realistically I don't think this will happen anytime soon. Just look at what a professional camera costs that can do over a thousand fps. Plus I believe there to be many factors dealing with such a vast amount of data, like, of who am I kidding, these factors you know already!

1) It would be a lot more data per second but Apple could just reduce the time allowed for slow motion grabs. Plus I think next year we'll see the NAND capacity double for the current price point.

2) Apple has a pretty solid track record of taking something only available at a professional level and making it a commodity feature.

3) What is the 4MB of RAM doing on the A7 chip? Could that be for processing images for burt mode and/or the slow motion camera? The most complex iPhone 5S still image I have taken is only 2.9MB.
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Perhaps they could 'speed up' the process of capturing a high fps by only recording the changes to each photo after the first fully saved one. They can then re-create the following shots by replacing the pixels that differ from the first shot. Kind of a 'the more the subject changes the slower the fps are going to be'.

That's an interesting technique and perhaps patentable. If two images can be quickly compared and the differences show less than a certain percentage of difference start with a new image and/or it could section off an image into quadrants then do micro comparisons since only small portions of an image seem to have any real change when shot in rapid succession.

Apple has a new algorithm called InertiaCam in FCP 10.1.

You can retime a video or video from individual frames (image sequence), when you slow the video, the algorithm examines each frame and generates intermediate frames, as needed, based on the amount slowed.

On a Mac it is very fast and very good quality.

I suspect, that with the A7 and some RAM, that this could be done by iMovie on an iDevice...

...Maybe A8 or A9 tho...

Edit:

The big question is: Do you really need to do this in real-time on the iDevice? I can envision some uses where the answer is yes... But for most, capturing video at 60 or 120 fps, then retiming/smoothing after-the-fact would be fine.

The neat thing, the new 64-bit architecture, Apple could leave the choice to the user.
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Something about reach and grasp!

I see three primary components to success in anything: aptitude, assets and aspiration. Aptitude and assets could be grouped together into a sole category called ability, one being internal to ones mental and/or physical traits, and the other being external like having the resources from money and/or being in a family or larger societal structure that allows certain type of achievements to be made more easily. But regardless of how much ability (or aptitude or assets) you have you still need that underlying aspiration to make it happen. Without that impulse there is no success. I wish I had that unstoppable quench for changing the world; for having a dream and stopping at nothing to see it come to life.
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This is surprising. I would expect Apple to be knowledgable enough to create the same tech on their own. Something doesn't click. Great news for Mr. Papandriopoulos though. (yes, that was a copy/paste action)
I'm not surprised. Big companies a generally not better at innovating. Apple has a few employees working on photo compression. If those two people don't think of the solution, then it doesn't get developed at Apple. In contrast, there are hundreds of thousands of other engineers with diverse experiences that could make the invention. The odds greatly favor outside development. BTW, the increased likelihood of invention outside of the market leader is the reason the patent system is so important to innovation.
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I see three primary components to success in anything: aptitude, assets and aspiration. Aptitude and assets could be grouped together into a sole category called ability, one being internal to ones mental and/or physical traits, and the other being external like having the resources from money, being in a family or larger societal structure that allows certain type of achievements to be made more easily, but regardless of how much of ability (or aptitude or assets) you have you still need that underlying aspiration to make it happen. Without that impulse there is no success. I wish I had that unstoppable quench for changing the world; for having a dream and stopping at nothing to see it come to life.

Very well written. The ease you do this with, seemingly, is inspirational for me to better my English. And my writing style for that matter.
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This is surprising. I would expect Apple to be knowledgable enough to create the same tech on their own. Something doesn't click. Great news for Mr. Papandriopoulos though. (yes, that was a copy/paste action)
I'm not surprised. Big companies a generally not better at innovating. Apple has a few employees working on photo compression. If those two people don't think of the solution, then it doesn't get developed at Apple. In contrast, there are hundreds of thousands of other engineers with diverse experiences that could make the invention. The odds greatly favor outside development. BTW, the increased likelihood of invention outside of the market leader is the reason the patent system is so important to innovation.

That's a well reasoned and valid post there; thank you.
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Perhaps they could 'speed up' the process of capturing a high fps by only recording the changes to each photo after the first fully saved one. They can then re-create the following shots by replacing the pixels that differ from the first shot. Kind of a 'the more the subject changes the slower the fps are going to be'.

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That's an interesting technique and perhaps patentable. If two images can be quickly compared and the differences show less than a certain percentage of difference start with a new image and/or it could section off an image into quadrants then do micro comparisons since only small portions of an image seem to have any real change when shot in rapid succession.

You appear to be referencing either fractal compression or JBIG2 which are, unfortunately, rather mathematically intensive. Fractal compression may become a reality in mobile devices as we approach 2020 perhaps even possible with the development of an Apple A10 processor should Apple be able to continue their (nearly) exponential rate of hardware development.

I predicted several years ago that medical imaging would begin to incorporate fractal compression by 2020 which has not as yet occurred. The published studies comparing discrete cosine transform and fractal image compression in medical imaging generally conclude that fractal image compression offers greater compression with resultant nearly visually indistinguishable but lower quality images (as defined by lower peak signal-to-noise ratio).
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It's too bad what we imagine can't also be what we can make.

To me, that sounds like the antithesis of a Steve Jobs quote.

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either fractal compression or JBIG2

Wow, learn something here almost every day. Thanks for this, interesting reading!
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The question isn't why Apple bought Snappy Labs but why Snappy Labs decided to sell.

 

Well that's not really a question is it?  It's not just the money, it's the access and prestige.  Work for Apple a few years and then, whatever.

 

Yes, you lose your company but as a one man company it's just your rep as a dev anyway.  His revenue was likely far lower than yours given what you posted.

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Wow, learn something here almost every day. Thanks for this, interesting reading!

I know very little of JBIG2 myself though as JBIG2 is not suitable for medical imaging due to the potential for sentinel events caused by substitution errors. In fact, I will notify my clients tomorrow of this issue about which I just became informed.
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In fact, I will notify my clients tomorrow of this issue about which I just became informed.

Funny how this sharing thing works, heh?
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Funny how this sharing thing works, heh?

I have been described as a "wonk" by a former manager. Personally, I don't really learn much from Apple Insider; I really appreciate the community. Although I haven't posted any comments of significant length recently I continue to investigate evidence of future developments at Apple. I can't begin to tell you how impressed I am by the concurrent development efforts at Apple. Frankly, I should have seen True Tone flash coming considering the indications I just didn't imagine that Apple had a contingency plan when their supplier failed.

In a desire to understand the specifics of JBIG2 I did some research and immediately learned of the issues with JBIG2 which may have me overly concerned at the moment.
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This is something people in this country who profess free market capitalism is real that don't seem to grasp [Same folks who say the guberment can't create jobs], when it comes to technology advancing.

 

Most advances come from Academic/Federal/Government joint ventures with 99% of the funding coming from the Central Government.

 

Maybe not that much but government-funded research is an essential part of the mix that made America great. The rest (used to be) forward thinking companies which realised *basic* blue-sky scientific research offers more long-term bang for your buck than anything else. In Australia we have CSIRO etc. but no equivalent to the Xerox PARC or Ford Dearborn scientific research labs. 

 

Anywho, this is from the abstract to one of Dr JP's PhD student papers in a peer reviewed journal. You'll see why Apple might be hoping for more bang for their buck than just improved image processing. 

 

"We address the problem of achieving outage probability constraints on the uplink of a code-division multiple-access (CDMA) system employing power control and linear multiuser detection, where we aim to minimize the total expended power. We propose a generalized framework for solving such problems under modest assumptions on the underlying channel fading distribution.  Unlike previous work, which dealt with a Rayleigh fast-fading model, we allow each user to have a different fading distribution. We show how this problem can be formed as an optimization over user transmit powers and linear receivers, and, where the problem is feasible, we provide conceptually simple iterative algorithms that find the minimum power solution while achieving outage specifications with equality..."

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